| I just finished season 1 of Welcome to the classroom fo the elite I really liked its anime, should I read Light novel from start as people are sayings its very bad adaptation of LN, and what is the possibility of its having season 2? and where do u read LN online? it will be my first light novel. |
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| Is there even enough sufficient source material for it? The novel just started publishing in min 2015. Assuming it does, we can damn well likely not expect a third season at least. |
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| Ha! Thank you for that, it's good to know the backstory of all of this. Now that you pointed that out, those were some of my problems as well. Ayanokoji alone basically made this show worth it to me. Lerche really did not use their time wisely and gave too much attention to Horikita and the three fuckers, I agree. It's shame that they skipped some important content and inserted Horikita when she wasn't supposed to be in the scene! I felt like the show had a lot of potential, but I guess the anime fucked it up. Reading what went on in the LN definitely makes me a bit disappointed! I will say though, I had a really fun time watching this anime. I wasn't really aware of the changes to the source till now. Hirugiku said: Thanks for sharing all that, even if i kinda knew most of it before. There is also that image which is HILARIOUS  Haha that is awesome. |
LoomyTheBrewOct 2, 2017 4:22 PM
| So the point is LN is better than the anime. Go read the LN. |
| So it wasn't a faithful adaption? Hmm, maybe that's why it didn't turn out that bad, lol. I kinda miss the old days where anime producers weren't pressured into making cut paste adaptions. We had way better anime back then. Not saying all anime shouldn't be faithful to the source, but I also think it depends on the source and how well it can be adapted into anime. And considering how this was a light novel adaption, I'd say it was probably a necessity for liberties to be taken to ensure higher quality. Otherwise, it'd be just another generic LN adaption. And while I don't think this anime was anything amazing, it was still highly enjoyable. |
RevyHolixx said: I don't need season 2 of this shitty show. I agree but rather, a different producer or studio should do a remake of it to fix what was everything wrong that Lerche did |
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Prexsy said: I wont get into much detail here, but basically the reason this anime will most likely not get a season 2 is because, well, Japan is pissed. If you read the LN im sure youd be pissed as well, I am too. This anime could of been amazing, it had great potential which is why people hate the fact that they screwed it up. Let me explain a little. The problem is the anime adaptation is like 100x worst than the LN. It feels like Lerche thought this anime was only getting 1 season so they kind of just... made the anime how he wants? But lets get into why Japan is pissed. Basically they all are hating Horikita right now (especially after episode 7). Why? She's stealing every other female character's spotlight. Lets take episode 8 for example (I was really pissed this episide). I was happy today expecting to see some deveolpment between Ayanokoji and Ichinose (Class b girl). But no, instead we get more Horikita. Honestly she's starting to get annoying at this point. Not only me, but everyone in Japan was excited for this. Also, dont mind my all caps here, THEY DECIDED TO COMPLETELY TAKE OUT THE AYANOKOJI AND KARUIZAWA ARC! I was pissed. You remember the episide when Horikita gave that cringey ass speech? That episode was supposed to be for Ayanokoji and Karuizawa, but no lets just give it to Horikita. Those two were supposed to have an intimate and memorial moment but they completely left her out of it. I was really looking forward to that, and so was Japan. Theres more but ill end that there. Next let talk about the annoying 3 stooges. Ya know Sudo and his 2 friends? Well they are getting too much screen time. All this screen time being wasted on them could be used for the MCs development. Ayanokoji is pretty much carrying this show right now, which wouldn't be happening if they didn't waste valuable screen time on these lame asses and Horikita and used it for Ayanokoji and the other female characters. Like what was the point of wasting 5 minutes watching Ike tell Kushida can he call her by her given name? All 3 of them are annoying characters that get to much screen time. I get it, Sudo is a hot headed fucker, you dont have to tell me every episode. I swear this anime could of been so much better. Next is the fucking fanservice. There was one episode that felt like a damn ova. Just like the 3 stooges, fanservice is taking up too much valuable screen time. Every likes some fanservice if course, but not when its fucking the anime over. Anyone who can control their libido knows that. Also, as you know, anime getting a next season depends on the producers and the sales in Japan. Welp, it aint looking too good. The sales were doing ok (not good not bad) but after the release of episode 7 and 8, the guys in Japan have been boycotting the BD reservations for this anime. They are completely pissed and expected a lot more out of this anime. Im pretty sure this wont get another season especially after I found out what hapoened in Japan. To sum this up, Japan is pissed, they fucked the anime adaptation over, and the sales are starting to do bad in Japan now. I had very high hopes for this anime, but I'm very disappointed in Lerche. This was typed on my phone so please excuse any spelling errors :p If theres something I missed feel free to say so. I agree. The anime was like a Live action or Death note Netflix. It'be better if they remake the anime on how it was supposed to be. I wish Lerche didn't produced Classroom of the elite. Some other studios could have make it better. White Fox or J.C Staff or some good studio should have produced Classroom of the elite. |
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Driugen said: I have to be honest, the writer in me feels it's a touch insulting to the author of this series when they made changes that weren't needed. It's like putting ketchup on a steak. I like your metaphor |
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| Unless this receives a second season which it almost definitely won't the short haired girl's "dark" side effectively was just a cheap means of showing "hey we're not like every other school LN." Only as a mean to hook viewers who were already on the fast track to bordem. |
| Yall are crying too much. So the anime focused a lot on Horikita the most, but I feel like they showcased the other girls for a good amount too. There were no real important girl that was neglected. Horikita was focused cause she's the main character with the most ambitions and trying for the class to get together and move up in rank. The ep 7 change from LN, well I don't read the LN, but what's such a big problem? First of all, Ayanokoji already admitted in the anime that he's not part of Karuizawa's group. Second, Karuizawa is already taken, she has a BF and that's Hirata, why would you want Ayanokoji to develop with Karuizawa. I think Horikita for the role was even more correct. Karuizawa is a good side character, I like her too, same with the other girls, and she adds on to the adoration as part of class D, much like Assassination Classroom. The camping further developed between Ayanokoji and Horikita and was the right path. Ichinose had good screentime, and she was there when Class D needed help from start to end. Great character. Ayanokoji was done perfectly! As I finished the anime, I find the anime only got even more likeable, better, and interesting, from 9 to 10. Only thing could be complained was Sudo didn't really learn his lesson, but some people never learn. For all the complaints, I think it's just stupid. Lerche did a fantastic job and now my most favorite studio! Their art is really one of my favorites too, cute and pretty characters !!! SEASON 2 IS WHAT I WANT !!!!! |
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Gaiking said: Yall are crying too much. So the focused a lot on Horikita the most, but I feel like they showcased the other girls for a good amount too. There were no real important girl that was neglected. Horikita was fojavascript:void(0);cused cause she's the main character with the most ambitions and trying for the class to get together and move up in rank. The ep 7 change from LN, well I don't read the LN, but what's such a big problem? First of all, Ayanokoji already admitted in the that he's not part of Karuizawa's group. Second, Karuizawa is already taken, she has a BF and that's Hirata, why would you want Ayanokoji to develop with Karuizawa. I think Horikita for the role was even more correct. Karuizawa is a good side character, I like her too, same with the other girls, and she adds on to the adoration as part of class D, much like Assassination Classroom. The camping further developed between Ayanokoji and Horikita and was the right path. Ichinose had good screentime, and she was there when Class D needed help from start to end. Great character. Ayanokoji was done perfectly! As I finished the , I find the only got even more likeable, better, and interesting, from 9 to 10. Only thing could be complained was Sudo didn't really learn his lesson, but some people never learn. For all the complaints, I think it's just stupid. Lerche did a fantastic job and now my most favorite studio! Their art is really one of my favorites too, cute and pretty characters !!! SEASON 2 IS WHAT I WANT !!!!! You clearly need to read the light novel but the translated ones are only volume 1 and half of volume 2. AND LERCHE DIDN'T DO A FANTASTIC JOB ON THE ADAPATION EXCEPT THE MUSIC AND ART/VISUALS. TRY TO READ THE SOURCE OF THE BEFORE COMPLAINING. LERCHE CUT SO MANY SCENES THAT WAS IMPORTANT IN THE ANIME AND JUST WENT FULL HORIKITA ON US. KARUIZAWA IS ALSO IMPORTANT. |
BrendanKUOct 24, 2017 1:07 AM
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BrendanKU said: I do not need to read the light novel if that's the route it takes. I COMPLETELY SUPPORT LERCHE'S CHANGES. ARE YOU DENSE? I'm not complaining about the anime, but there's a problem with you LN readers.Gaiking said: Yall are crying too much. So the anime focused a lot on Horikita the most, but I feel like they showcased the other girls for a good amount too. There were no real important girl that was neglected. Horikita was fojavascript:void(0);cused cause she's the main character with the most ambitions and trying for the class to get together and move up in rank. The ep 7 change from LN, well I don't read the LN, but what's such a big problem? First of all, Ayanokoji already admitted in the anime that he's not part of Karuizawa's group. Second, Karuizawa is already taken, she has a BF and that's Hirata, why would you want Ayanokoji to develop with Karuizawa. I think Horikita for the role was even more correct. Karuizawa is a good side character, I like her too, same with the other girls, and she adds on to the adoration as part of class D, much like Assassination Classroom. The camping further developed between Ayanokoji and Horikita and was the right path. Ichinose had good screentime, and she was there when Class D needed help from start to end. Great character. Ayanokoji was done perfectly! As I finished the anime, I find the anime only got even more likeable, better, and interesting, from 9 to 10. Only thing could be complained was Sudo didn't really learn his lesson, but some people never learn. For all the complaints, I think it's just stupid. Lerche did a fantastic job and now my most favorite studio! Their art is really one of my favorites too, cute and pretty characters !!! SEASON 2 IS WHAT I WANT !!!!! You clearly need to read the light novel but the translated ones are only volume 1 and half of volume 2. AND LERCHE DIDN'T DO A FANTASTIC JOB ON THE ADAPATION EXCEPT THE MUSIC AND ART/VISUALS. TRY TO READ THE SOURCE OF THE ANIME BEFORE COMPLAINING. LERCHE CUT SO MANY SCENES THAT WAS IMPORTANT IN THE ANIME AND JUST WENT FULL HORIKITA ON US. |
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Gaiking said: BrendanKU said: I do not need to read the light novel if that's the route it takes. I COMPLETELY SUPPORT LERCHE'S CHANGES. ARE YOU DENSE? I'm not complaining about the anime, but there's a problem with you LN readers.You clearly need to read the light novel but the translated ones are only volume 1 and half of volume 2. AND LERCHE DIDN'T DO A FANTASTIC JOB ON THE ADAPATION EXCEPT THE MUSIC AND ART/VISUALS. TRY TO READ THE SOURCE OF THE ANIME BEFORE COMPLAINING. LERCHE CUT SO MANY SCENES THAT WAS IMPORTANT IN THE ANIME AND JUST WENT FULL HORIKITA ON US. .......Didn't I told you that he tried to rape Karuizawa so she can show her true colors, and he's not really going to rape her. I'n also not dense. You wouldn't understand cuz you haven't read it yet. I'm not the only one angry, fans from japan is also angry and so is the others who have read it yet |
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BrendanKU said: And I'm saying he won't rape or pretend rape anyone, I cannot believe his character would use this kind of method, he takes a very subtle approach. Even when Sudo was getting ass beat by Ryuuen, Ayanokoji only stood there and watched. Karuizawa to me seems like a girl that hangs around and easily has a BOYFRIEND with her cute looks and being sassy. She does not seem like a bullied girl like Sakura, which is why I don't know you lot are angry. I think Karuizawa is an important girl too. In no way do I feel she is downplayed in the anime, and I'm sure there are more ways to give them interaction, but as a CLASS like what is happening in the anime right now. It is more natural like this. Have you watched Assassination Classroom?Gaiking said: I do not need to read the light novel if that's the route it takes. I COMPLETELY SUPPORT LERCHE'S CHANGES. ARE YOU DENSE? I'm not complaining about the anime, but there's a problem with you LN readers. .......Didn't I told you that he tried to rape Karuizawa so she can show her true colors, and he's not really going to rape her. I'n also not dense. You wouldn't understand cuz you haven't read it yet. I'm not the only one angry, fans from japan is also angry and so is the others who have read it yet |
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Gaiking said: BrendanKU said: And I'm saying he won't rape or pretend rape anyone, I cannot believe his character would use this kind of method, he takes a very subtle approach. Even when Sudo was getting ass beat by Ryuuen, Ayanokoji only stood there and watched. Karuizawa to me seems like a girl that hangs around and easily has a BOYFRIEND with her cute looks and being sassy. She does not seem like a bullied girl like Sakura, which is why I don't know you lot are angry. I think Karuizawa is an important girl too. In no way do I feel she is downplayed in the anime, and I'm sure there are more ways to give them interaction, but as a CLASS like what is happening in the anime right now. It is more natural like this. Have you watched Assassination Classroom?.......Didn't I told you that he tried to rape Karuizawa so she can show her true colors, and he's not really going to rape her. I'n also not dense. You wouldn't understand cuz you haven't read it yet. I'm not the only one angry, fans from japan is also angry and so is the others who have read it yet A little late but he does indeed ''pretend to rape'' her as a method to show her true colors, also, as the guy above said, she is not really dating Hirata, they're just pretending to date, she was bullied in middle school and even has a scar in her body, in the last volume she did overcame her trauma just to protect Ayano's identity as the one behind the scenes in class D. She is also the closest person to him(Sakura is second). Volume 4 is already translated and the short stories of all volumes too. Now changing the topic, a guy in anime suki posted this: http://i.4cdn.org/a/1513415139912.jpg Cover of volume 7.5 |
CloudACC said: Gaiking said: And I'm saying he won't rape or pretend rape anyone, I cannot believe his character would use this kind of method, he takes a very subtle approach. Even when Sudo was getting ass beat by Ryuuen, Ayanokoji only stood there and watched. Karuizawa to me seems like a girl that hangs around and easily has a BOYFRIEND with her cute looks and being sassy. She does not seem like a bullied girl like Sakura, which is why I don't know you lot are angry. I think Karuizawa is an important girl too. In no way do I feel she is downplayed in the anime, and I'm sure there are more ways to give them interaction, but as a CLASS like what is happening in the anime right now. It is more natural like this. Have you watched Assassination Classroom? A little late but he does indeed ''pretend to rape'' her as a method to show her true colors, also, as the guy above said, she is not really dating Hirata, they're just pretending to date, she was bullied in middle school and even has a scar in her body, in the last volume she did overcame her trauma just to protect Ayano's identity as the one behind the scenes in class D. She is also the closest person to him(Sakura is second). Volume 4 is already translated and the short stories of all volumes too. Now changing the topic, a guy in anime suki posted this: http://i.4cdn.org/a/1513415139912.jpg Cover of volume 7.5 Can you give me a link to vol 4? |
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BrendanKU said: CloudACC said: A little late but he does indeed ''pretend to rape'' her as a method to show her true colors, also, as the guy above said, she is not really dating Hirata, they're just pretending to date, she was bullied in middle school and even has a scar in her body, in the last volume she did overcame her trauma just to protect Ayano's identity as the one behind the scenes in class D. She is also the closest person to him(Sakura is second). Volume 4 is already translated and the short stories of all volumes too. Now changing the topic, a guy in anime suki posted this: http://i.4cdn.org/a/1513415139912.jpg Cover of volume 7.5 Can you give me a link to vol 4? Here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0BzJEgqplcpl-dlp5VW5QeUJOaE0 It's not a perfect translation, but we need to be grateful that we at least can read it. |
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| From the sound of things, it seems the novel is all harem whereas the anime isn't. So actually the director made the right choice in replacing the girls with Horikita, stopping it from being another generic harem. Not that it actually matter mind you, this whole anime/novel is full of bullshit ideas anyway. I'm glad it's only 12 episodes so I don't have to sit through this shit. |
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HistoricGamer46 said: From the sound of things, it seems the novel is all harem whereas the anime isn't. So actually the director made the right choice in replacing the girls with Horikita, stopping it from being another generic harem. Not that it actually matter mind you, this whole anime/novel is full of bullshit ideas anyway. I'm glad it's only 12 episodes so I don't have to sit through this shit. Nah, it's not a harem man, only girls that have actual romantic feelings for Ayanokoji are Karuizawa, Sakura and Satou(although her crush on him is not really love, I bet she would jump to Hirata the moment he is single), director made the worst choice by focusing on Horikita he basically cut the initial interactions between Ayanokoji and Ichinose, which made many go ''When the fuck did they become friends?" when she asked him to be her fake boyfriend and replaced her with Horikita when threatening the Class C guys with the cameras(which also made no sense, why would the guys believe two students from Class D? It's way more credible with someone from Class B together) Episode 7 was also another disaster, in the novel they use it to actually develop Ayanokoji's and Karuizawa's relationship(not romantic by the way), but no, the anime focused too much on the stupid plan the boys had and on that awful speech Horikita gave, something that brought the attention of the other classes to her, making Class D choose her to be the one to put her name on the card completely stupid when in the novel she was off the radar. The author also has really good ideas that are flashed out and used in better way in the novels, he also breaks many Light novel tropes, making a mob character like Karuizawa rise to the status of Heroine and the closest person to Ayanokoji. So summarizing everything, The anime is OK at best, the novels are a thousand times better. |
CoolitzHubertXVI said: halovn113 said: She's very important girl later start from vol 4. She's the girl Ayanokiji trusts the most and willing protect her. Not only that, she's one of 3 girls have confirm has romantic feeling to Ayanokiji. And more important is she the closest person + only person know Ayanokiji dark side and working for him directly. That's why LN reader love her. Maybe she like main heroine more than Horikita in the lastest volume because her position and role right now. About the class rep. Well, they're just a fake couple. But they adapt her story aka pool story in ep 7 TOO SOON (because it's after vol 4) and replace her role/ line to Horikita. 3 Girls liking the MC ??? Yikes !! I hate harems, so I'm glad that the Anime focuses more on Ayanokouji-Horikita and let Hirata have Kei Karuizawa. I love how Lerche made this change as it is literally trying to send a message to the Author of the LN that there are too many harems in LNs, so there should be more Animes where a 2nd guy gets his own girl and not have more than 2 girls liking the MC. Harems are totally bullshit, so there should be more LNs with Multiple Couples instead where other male character's romance subplots are also depicted too other than the MC's own. Nah, Lerche didn't make this change to send a message to the author, they made it because Hashimoto, one of the directors of the anime is a Horikita fanboy, and 2 girls loving the MC with a third one having a small crush on him(a crush that might disappear if Hirata becomes single again) does not make the novel a harem one, also, Hirata is not really dating Karuizawa, they are just faking it. My suggestion would be to at least read volume 1 and 2 to see how much better the anime would be if Lerche actually stayed faithful to the source material. |
| Damn it! I was actually hoping for a season 2 after I saw just how interesting the MC happened to be. |
| This show was successful in doing what it set out to do: Sell their LN. I'll admit that I'm sold on it and really want to read it now. Ayanokoji absolutely saved this show (even if people say he's better in the LN). He was still so badass in the anime alone. This is actually one of the few animes where I'll actually be content without another season because I fear they will butcher the series even more. Judging from the minor spoilers regarding the main heroine role, it sucks that the producer had to be biased. I'll be sticking with the LN then and do thank the anime for introducing the series to me even if it was not as great as it could have been. |
| I want to read the LN, I don't need a shitty season 2 of the anime unless they remake it WITH KARUIZAWA MOMENTS AND NOT FCKING WHOREKITA |
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| why not those japanese including u bulk create mal accounts and add kuruizawa to your faves, at least let the "best girl" reach 600 faves to get near horikita |
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| Well, the production seems won't make season 2 from the start and wont care about the boycott or all the hate. The one who truly hurt is the one who only watch the anime without read the source and hoping for season 2 |
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