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Feb 16, 2018 7:16 AM
#1
| So today I read a passage in the book of Genesis in the bible that when human are prohibited by the God to eat the Fruit of Knowledge, they ate it instead after a snek tolds them to do so. So basically from this passage I've learned that it's human basic nature to violate the norms. Because loli and incest are being made taboo by the society, they've become the utmost exquisite. Now let's explore this by a bit. Why the society regarded them taboo? For Incest, there's a history that the chances of getting birth defects from incestuous relationship are being higher. Some of them are from infamous noble families hence why the popularity. But is the rate up actually that significant? I don't think so. Even if it is, it will be alright if the said couple have no children/adopt childrens. And as for loli, some people sadly still relate it to pedophilia. Now let's get started with pedophilia, why it isn't just taboo, but also a law violating? So basically children/teens yet to be called a function members of the society due to not having proper mind development to give a proper consent, hence why they're easily fell into adult deception. Their unfully developed physique also took account for this. In anime however, everything is in 2D hence why it isn't supposed to create such uproar. By being 2D, it's made legal and that some people who still have these fetish could just fantasize as they want without being punished. But why, some people , still wanted to intervene with others fantasy? There is nothing wrong with that, for me. And that the more, people campaign about this loli/incest hating, the more of these fetish garnering their 'unique' quality due to it's human nature to try the taboo, as it's stated in the bible, resulting in EVEN MORE PEOPLE turned to lolicons/incestweeb and encourage to the already lolicon/incestweeb to be more faithful with their fetish because it's 'special' and 'exquisite'. Do you agree with me? Discuss. So I guess each fetish of their own, no need to intervene with others business as long as it's not harmful to others. P. S I read Bible today but I strayed even further from God as a result. I guess God really wants that. |
Feb 16, 2018 7:34 AM
#2
| Doing something that is illegal/immoral/deviant is exciting itself. I always have this crawling feeling whenever I watch NTR related stuff and that feeling elevate, making the experience more worthwhile. Not surprising since in our psychological state, we know doing bad stuff is bad, but that all makes it better. I'm not sure about this, fuck me if I'm wrong, I'm a virgin, maybe this is the reason why people find it hot when they have sex with others/make an affair? The alluring temptation to do vile acts is a wonder of life. Somehow this got a bit too deep and serious. Hence I became a degenerate cause it's hot as fuck no matter what consent the scenario is. |
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Feb 16, 2018 7:36 AM
#3
| Sure, maybe it accounts for up to 5% or so of peoples' overall impression. |
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Feb 16, 2018 7:39 AM
#4
| yeah you know I'm sure I'll go to hell because after watching Nisemonogatari and watching THAT scene I wanted to see it again and DAMN I liked that scene , fuck that shit since that day I've lost faith in myself... |
Feb 16, 2018 7:44 AM
#5
| I mean, pedophilia is law violating because it is pretty immoral to fuck with the innocence and take advantage of a child - someone who most likely doesn't know better and can't do much about the situation. It is less taboo than it just disgusting. This shit is just wrong and I think if this is something "exciting" for someone, they probably need help. Nonetheless, I agree that humans like to push boundaries, especially socially constructed ones. That is why kids and teenagers do so much stupid shit, they want to find out which boundaries are okay to go over. Loli/incest and other things in anime have become so normal, and I don't mind that. They make it exciting, different, and I'm glad that the creators aren't afraid of incorporating taboo things in their medium - it is all fictional after all. |
Feb 16, 2018 7:45 AM
#6
| I don't really consider loli/incest taboo, but one thing I'm sure I consider taboo is reading the bible and I don't find the bible appealing at all. So all of this is pretty irrelevant. |
Feb 16, 2018 7:47 AM
#7
| something being considered taboo just makes it more popular lol |
Feb 16, 2018 7:47 AM
#8
| I immediately stopped reading when you brought up the bible in a pedophilia and incest thread. Anyways, going by the title, no it doesn't make it more interesting. If anything, it makes it more gross. Drama and angst is what makes romance interesting to me. |
Feb 16, 2018 7:55 AM
#9
MaeOrchid said: Why tho? Lot technically has done incest with his own child.I immediately stopped reading when you brought up the bible in a pedophilia and incest thread. Anyways, going by the title, no it doesn't make it more interesting. If anything, it makes it more gross. Drama and angst is what makes romance interesting to me. Jare4lopez said: yeah you know I'm sure I'll go to hell because after watching Nisemonogatari and watching THAT scene I wanted to see it again and DAMN I liked that scene , fuck that shit since that day I've lost faith in myself... The toothbrush scene? |
Feb 16, 2018 8:03 AM
#10
You said: MaeOrchid said: Why tho? Lot technically has done incest with his own child.I immediately stopped reading when you brought up the bible in a pedophilia and incest thread. Anyways, going by the title, no it doesn't make it more interesting. If anything, it makes it more gross. Drama and angst is what makes romance interesting to me. Are you asking about why I find angst and romance to be more interesting or how I find pedophilia and incest to be gross? |
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Feb 16, 2018 8:06 AM
#11
MaeOrchid said: No, I'm asking on why you stopped reading when I mentioned Bible and relating them to incest. You said: MaeOrchid said: I immediately stopped reading when you brought up the bible in a pedophilia and incest thread. Anyways, going by the title, no it doesn't make it more interesting. If anything, it makes it more gross. Drama and angst is what makes romance interesting to me. Thanks. I'm given more reasons to not read the bible. Are you asking about why I find angst and romance to be more interesting or how I find pedophilia and incest to be gross? Some angst is good in serious romance if they're believable yeah |
Feb 16, 2018 8:09 AM
#12
| Anything that is a taboo is really exciting to commit Why? because it just makes you curious that how would it feel or something like that For me both incest and pedophilia are weird both in anime and irl But i will say one thing that due to watching alot of ecchi animes and mangas (not added in my list, watched due to the "plot";probably because of TLR series) i don't get any of these "urges" anymore (like it's in my control now.....i am not one of those guys who never got a gf so don't feel any pity) |
Feb 16, 2018 8:12 AM
#13
You said: Jare4lopez said: yeah you know I'm sure I'll go to hell because after watching Nisemonogatari and watching THAT scene I wanted to see it again and DAMN I liked that scene , fuck that shit since that day I've lost faith in myself... The toothbrush scene? yep, that one. [Characterlimit u.u] |
Feb 16, 2018 8:12 AM
#14
You said: MaeOrchid said: No, I'm asking on why you stopped reading when I mentioned Bible and relating them to incest. You said: MaeOrchid said: Why tho? Lot technically has done incest with his own child.I immediately stopped reading when you brought up the bible in a pedophilia and incest thread. Anyways, going by the title, no it doesn't make it more interesting. If anything, it makes it more gross. Drama and angst is what makes romance interesting to me. Thanks. I'm given more reasons to not read the bible. Are you asking about why I find angst and romance to be more interesting or how I find pedophilia and incest to be gross? Some angst is good in serious romance if they're believable yeah Oh, sorry. I just found it to be to funny that somebody mentioned the bible on an anime forum. I thought you were trolling. Also it was kind of too long for me to read. :c |
Feb 16, 2018 8:13 AM
#15
| I think some of these things are appealing because they're considered taboo. Incest isn't appealing to me because I personally no longer find it immoral in the real sense... like at all. It's pretty vanilla stuff honestly. Child molestation is wrong because children can't consent. And this is why certain kinds of lolicon can be appealing. Even though I don't consider watching fictional depictions of lolicon or rape to be immoral given there isn't a real victim involved. |
Feb 16, 2018 8:30 AM
#16
| Incest is just weird and pedophilia is just fucked up irl. One is obviously worse than the other tho lol. In 2D, I've grown pretty much immune to incest although it's pretty cringy sometimes when they force it in to a show. Loli bait/pedophilia in anime is cringy 100% of the time for me tho (looking at you, Black Bullet). Kirrah said: Incest is NOT a normal relationship in most people's eyes, but I guess people have different opinions on the matter.Incest isn't appealing to me because I personally no longer find it immoral in the real sense... like at all. It's pretty vanilla stuff honestly. |
Feb 16, 2018 8:31 AM
#17
| I see that the foreigner class affected even you OP. Can't say if that's a bad or a good thing. |
Feb 16, 2018 8:36 AM
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Feb 16, 2018 8:36 AM
#19
| Y'know, that actually kinda makes sense. How often do you do something you're told not to? |
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Feb 16, 2018 8:53 AM
#20
| I like taboo stuff but I don't care for incest. It being taboo should be a part of an exciting fetish, but when being wrong and taboo is basically the only thing that the fetish consists of without anything else to it I just don't see the appeal. Incest could happen between two 84 year old siblings, but that's not hot. I can think of so many incest scenarios that just aren't sexy but are just taboo. On the other hand lolis are always hot and taboo, so lolis are the superior fetish. Incest is just being taboo for the sake of it, which is too edgy for me. |
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Feb 16, 2018 9:00 AM
#21
| theres taboo then theres gross loli (Little girls) thats just cute. not in a sexual way but in way like cats are cute. thats why cats roaming around anime. sexualizing lolis is just gross. like murdering and eating a cat. crossed a line pedo is crossing a line. incest is ewww to anyone with siblings. you can nolonger picture yourself as protagonist. incest hentai is acceptable. now murder is illegal but it is something many of us can imagine doing. snitches are hated but look how law encourages it anyway those are my thoughts. i think it depends on what each person deems acceptable in their minds |
Feb 16, 2018 10:54 AM
#22
P. S I read Bible today but I strayed even further from God as a result. I guess God really wants that. You just don't know it, but God also approves of lolis and imoutos. |
Feb 16, 2018 11:39 AM
#24
| The moral disengagement is strong with this one. |
Feb 16, 2018 1:38 PM
#25
DepravedMagi said: It doesn't matter if its 2D or real Its still fucking creepy that you found a child sexually appealing And as a person who has siblings, incest makes me uncomfortable And incest only appeals to disgusting losers who pretty much don't have siblings And OP, you're a pedophile who fetishizes the relationships between siblings. I think you're taking fiction a tad too seriously bud. I don't like lolis myself, but cmon. Make a distinctive line between the two. |
Feb 16, 2018 1:46 PM
#26
DepravedMagi said: Monster said: DepravedMagi said: It doesn't matter if its 2D or real Its still fucking creepy that you found a child sexually appealing And as a person who has siblings, incest makes me uncomfortable And incest only appeals to disgusting losers who pretty much don't have siblings And OP, you're a pedophile who fetishizes the relationships between siblings. I think you're taking fiction a tad too seriously bud. I don't like lolis myself, but cmon. Make a distinctive line between the two. I'm not taking it too seriously, its just that I have morals even when it comes to fiction. Well that's completely fine, but you're attacking the guy by inherently applying real life values at the same standard as fiction. |
Feb 16, 2018 1:58 PM
#27
DepravedMagi said: Monster said: DepravedMagi said: Monster said: DepravedMagi said: It doesn't matter if its 2D or real Its still fucking creepy that you found a child sexually appealing And as a person who has siblings, incest makes me uncomfortable And incest only appeals to disgusting losers who pretty much don't have siblings And OP, you're a pedophile who fetishizes the relationships between siblings. I think you're taking fiction a tad too seriously bud. I don't like lolis myself, but cmon. Make a distinctive line between the two. I'm not taking it too seriously, its just that I have morals even when it comes to fiction. Well that's completely fine, but you're attacking the guy by inherently applying real life values at the same standard as fiction. Incest leads to a lot of problems and lolicons are potential pedophiles who might rape a chid at some point. There must be a lot of child rape in Japan, then. Anyway, you're applying predicaments to a medium which is liberated from that. I just think as long as you're able to separate reality from fiction, you should be good. |
Feb 16, 2018 2:14 PM
#28
| I got a chuckle when you used the term "rate up". It reminded of Fate Grand Order famous saying>>> Rate up is lie. |
| The Anime Binge Is Life -PolarCyrus97 2k17- |
Feb 16, 2018 2:21 PM
#29
| @op I thought that was pretty obvious. That's kinda how I got turned into a semi-lolicon myself... Then again the way lolis are portrayed in animes, the mindset they have and the way they act is closer to that of an irl adult, combine that with cute drawing style and there you have it - an army of lolicons. Doing something bad or forbidden has some form of excitement. Same way how it's exciting to play as the "bad guys" in video games. The pedophollia law is messed up tho. Like for example how 18 y/o male with/ 15 y/o female in considered a pedo and how 50 y/o male and 18 y/o female is all good and halal. |
PzKpfw_VI_TigerFeb 16, 2018 2:31 PM
Feb 16, 2018 2:39 PM
#30
DepravedMagi said: Do you perhaps have a copy of case control or cohort observational study that proves the relatability of being a lolicon with the amount of child rape? If no then sorry, I have to dismiss your claim. Monster said: DepravedMagi said: Monster said: DepravedMagi said: It doesn't matter if its 2D or real Its still fucking creepy that you found a child sexually appealing And as a person who has siblings, incest makes me uncomfortable And incest only appeals to disgusting losers who pretty much don't have siblings And OP, you're a pedophile who fetishizes the relationships between siblings. I think you're taking fiction a tad too seriously bud. I don't like lolis myself, but cmon. Make a distinctive line between the two. I'm not taking it too seriously, its just that I have morals even when it comes to fiction. Well that's completely fine, but you're attacking the guy by inherently applying real life values at the same standard as fiction. Incest leads to a lot of problems and lolicons are potential pedophiles who might rape a chid at some point. Swagernator said: I see that the foreigner class affected even you OP. Can't say if that's a bad or a good thing. velvetPhos said: Those are not appealing to me, tbh. I prefer matured women. I mean… your forum avatar is loli tentacle monster… That says a lot about you. B-but, Abby-chan is a cute!! But thanks for having me laugh by commenting on my Abigail forum sets. PolarCyrus97 said: Please don't remind me on how I fail to get Gilgamesh or any other 5* on the new year rate up and wasting 25 tickets and 255 SQ. I got a chuckle when you used the term "rate up". It reminded of Fate Grand Order famous saying>>> Rate up is lie. |
Feb 16, 2018 2:39 PM
#31
Jare4lopez said: yeah you know I'm sure I'll go to hell because after watching Nisemonogatari and watching THAT scene I wanted to see it again and DAMN I liked that scene , fuck that shit since that day I've lost faith in myself... Just embrace it bro, No reason to shy away from such master piece. Serious tho, It's not the end of the world, just do whatever you want, at long at it's not violate the law, who can tell you it's wrong |
Feb 16, 2018 3:00 PM
#32
| Or how about you just combine both of them because they're both hot? ClodRaker said: Welcome to the world of autistic libertarians:This. Also, I've seen people follow OP's line of thought into making some really shady claims -- like, if society just made actual child-porn legal, pedophilia would slowly disappear over time. I think we'll pass on that one, thanks. |
Feb 16, 2018 3:01 PM
#33
Feb 16, 2018 3:12 PM
#34
Kirrah said: Sure. So when I say "autistic libertarian", I'm talking about the kinds who decide to take every concept to its most logical conclusion. The idea becomes more important than the lived experience.I have no morals when it comes to fiction as well. I only care if there's a victim. In fiction, a victim is impossible. @Bayek, what do you mean by that? I don't believe that pedophilia is right, and I'm a Libertarian. |
Feb 16, 2018 3:21 PM
#35
Feb 16, 2018 3:39 PM
#36
| Well people find Taboo's intriguing and anime/manga/novels makes those things more appealing than they appear irl. For me, Loli's are for pats, not for faps and incest is alright as long as its yuri or the pairing is actually good(incest with uncomfortable age gaps is a no from me tho). |
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Feb 16, 2018 3:56 PM
#37
| Incest, I don't see the problem with it, both in real life and in anime. They're consenting adults, as long as they're using protection no one has the right to tell them that they shouldn't fuck. As for lolis, the reason that shit is fucked up in real life is because children can't consent, they're innocent and they aren't strong enough to refuse, and their bodies aren't developed enough for sex. That's just abuse and very harmful. However, in anime or doujins, they're just drawings. Those things related to real life don't apply, and there's a lot more you can do with the character. So people please, it's a goddamn drawing, go get triggered about the real problem. |
Feb 16, 2018 4:13 PM
#38
| It's too late, they already started lol https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/7y0kyg/100_will_jam_it_in/ |
| The Anime Binge Is Life -PolarCyrus97 2k17- |
Feb 16, 2018 6:10 PM
#39
| Necrophilia is a taboo also and is not as " appealing " as lolis and incests are. Edit: Also, I don't think liking lolis makes you a pedophile, you just like children (?) you don't necessarily think of them as possible sexual partners, it kinda works for me this way. And since my country is like 14+ is ok if consent, I don't really see highschool teenagers as 'lolis'. |
blumenbaltFeb 16, 2018 6:17 PM
Feb 16, 2018 6:25 PM
#40
MaeOrchid said: I immediately stopped reading when you brought up the bible in a pedophilia and incest thread. Lol same here, plus a major case of tldr. |
Feb 17, 2018 2:02 AM
#41
| I absolutely abhor incest and loli. In anime i don't really care about seeing a loli as long as she isn't involved in any romance shit. |
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Feb 17, 2018 2:12 AM
#42
DepravedMagi said: It doesn't matter if its 2D or real Its still fucking creepy that you found a child sexually appealing And as a person who has siblings, incest makes me uncomfortable You need thicker skin then. How can you possibly think that they're equally as bad? |
Feb 17, 2018 2:25 AM
#43
Kittens-kun said: DepravedMagi said: It doesn't matter if its 2D or real Its still fucking creepy that you found a child sexually appealing And as a person who has siblings, incest makes me uncomfortable You need thicker skin then. How can you possibly think that they're equally as bad? they are just both bad. ............ |
Feb 17, 2018 2:33 AM
#44
DepravedMagi said: Hey OP, have you ever thought about going for female characters/women your age (or legal) instead of lolis? As long as they have the body and facial characteristics of a loli, yeah sure. |
Feb 17, 2018 6:33 AM
#45
kisb said: Kittens-kun said: DepravedMagi said: It doesn't matter if its 2D or real Its still fucking creepy that you found a child sexually appealing And as a person who has siblings, incest makes me uncomfortable You need thicker skin then. How can you possibly think that they're equally as bad? they are just both bad. ............ Nope. It's fiction. There's literally nothing wrong with it. |
Feb 17, 2018 10:40 AM
#46
PzKpfw_VI_Tiger said: @op I thought that was pretty obvious. That's kinda how I got turned into a semi-lolicon myself... Then again the way lolis are portrayed in animes, the mindset they have and the way they act is closer to that of an irl adult, combine that with cute drawing style and there you have it - an army of lolicons. Doing something bad or forbidden has some form of excitement. Same way how it's exciting to play as the "bad guys" in video games. The pedophollia law is messed up tho. Like for example how 18 y/o male with/ 15 y/o female in considered a pedo and how 50 y/o male and 18 y/o female is all good and halal. Look here I never asked about your lolicon fetishes. I am just a normal person. |
Feb 17, 2018 10:44 AM
#47
DepravedMagi said: Kittens-kun said: DepravedMagi said: It doesn't matter if its 2D or real Its still fucking creepy that you found a child sexually appealing And as a person who has siblings, incest makes me uncomfortable You need thicker skin then. How can you possibly think that they're equally as bad? Nope, its just that you need higher moral standards. The fact that both you and OP think that lolis are sexy is fucking creepy Nope. We just don't get offended by cartoons. |
Feb 17, 2018 10:53 AM
#48
DepravedMagi said: Kittens-kun said: DepravedMagi said: Kittens-kun said: DepravedMagi said: It doesn't matter if its 2D or real Its still fucking creepy that you found a child sexually appealing And as a person who has siblings, incest makes me uncomfortable You need thicker skin then. How can you possibly think that they're equally as bad? Nope, its just that you need higher moral standards. The fact that both you and OP think that lolis are sexy is fucking creepy Nope. We just don't get offended by cartoons. Lolicons are still pedophiles as they're attracted to little girls who haven't even hit puberty. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolicon Lolicon (γγͺγ³γ³?), also romanised as lolikon or rorikon, is Japanese discourse or media focusing on the attraction to young or prepubescent girls. The term lolicon is a portmanteau of the phrase "Lolita complex";[1] it describes an attraction to young or prepubescent girls, an individual with such an attraction, or lolicon manga or lolicon anime, a genre of manga and anime wherein childlike female characters are often depicted in an "erotic-cute" manner (also known as ero kawaii), in an art style reminiscent of the shΕjo manga (girls' comics) style. Except, they aren't real people. Also, "lolicon" doesn't mean sexual attraction exclusively. |
Feb 17, 2018 10:57 AM
#49
DepravedMagi said: Kittens-kun said: DepravedMagi said: Kittens-kun said: DepravedMagi said: Kittens-kun said: DepravedMagi said: It doesn't matter if its 2D or real Its still fucking creepy that you found a child sexually appealing And as a person who has siblings, incest makes me uncomfortable You need thicker skin then. How can you possibly think that they're equally as bad? Nope, its just that you need higher moral standards. The fact that both you and OP think that lolis are sexy is fucking creepy Nope. We just don't get offended by cartoons. Lolicons are still pedophiles as they're attracted to little girls who haven't even hit puberty. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolicon Lolicon (γγͺγ³γ³?), also romanised as lolikon or rorikon, is Japanese discourse or media focusing on the attraction to young or prepubescent girls. The term lolicon is a portmanteau of the phrase "Lolita complex";[1] it describes an attraction to young or prepubescent girls, an individual with such an attraction, or lolicon manga or lolicon anime, a genre of manga and anime wherein childlike female characters are often depicted in an "erotic-cute" manner (also known as ero kawaii), in an art style reminiscent of the shΕjo manga (girls' comics) style. Except, they aren't real people. Also, "lolicon" doesn't mean sexual attraction exclusively. Since you keep defending lolicons on MAL often, I have now concluded that you're a pedophile. And I have now concluded that you're a delusional SJW. |
Feb 17, 2018 11:03 AM
#50
| It really is a weird sort of people who think that morality has anything to do with what you enjoy in cartoons or fiction in general, rather than it being about what values you have regarding to real live, and what actions you take. The sort of people who would probably censor and 'cleanse' a whole society thinking they're being morally righteous while doing so because all the infidels who enjoy heretic, immoral acts like reading fiction they disagree with or masturbating to fantasies they don't deem kosher must be corrected and punished for their lack of morals. A bunch of delusional assholes, if you ask me. Plus it never ceases to amaze me how they can enjoy anime/fiction full of violence and murder and psychopathic characters and suffering and other kinds of immoral stuff without thinking something must be wrong with their own morality for enjoying those shows. Based on their worldview where what you like and enjoy in fiction defines your moral character and what you want to see and do in real life, they should really turn themselves in before they start murdering people if they ever liked an anime or character who killed anybody. It's obviously what they want to do and they are ticking time bombs and I know that for sure based on their preference in fiction, just they figured out all those lolicon pedophiles!!1 Stupidity makes it easy to be a hypocrite, I guess. |
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