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Feb 9, 2018 7:25 AM
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Siluca in a dress :o

However, I think it's Margaret is the one that really stood out in the crowd especially with her dancing.


I was not expecting Theo to also dance; he doesn't look like a dancer. Not really surprised that trouble came again with Theo getting into another fight..can't the man ever catch a break?! I kinda feel like Villar is hiding something. Still, it was kinda interesting to learn more about how he feels for his family and the Krische bloodline.


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Feb 9, 2018 9:08 AM
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Siluca in her dress was the best part of the episode. <3

The guy with the black coat seems to be quite strong, did he just absorb the crests of all those people he massacred at the end?
Feb 9, 2018 9:18 AM
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Lelouch0202 said:
Siluca in her dress was the best part of the episode. <3

The guy with the black coat seems to be quite strong, did he just absorb the crests of all those people he massacred at the end?
Yes he is; hes also fairly ruthless; and yes he did. I believe the only survivors were the daughters and Nikola. Though unlike Theo he truly has no 'allies' or 'willing followers' They have very different outlooks on the world itself. Along with the use of power.

Theo will now fight his own battle his own way. the series improves with each week for me. Though I can see time jumps here and there. Like others villar is likely hiding more than one or two things - But he spoke to the truth to Margaret; though slightly more vague than he could have- he really is 'afraid' of being that committed to women at times (if not all the time)

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Feb 9, 2018 9:36 AM
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This anime has been getting better each episode so I am looking forward to how things turn out but I think that it has a big chance of coming straight down in terms of quality .
Feb 9, 2018 10:12 AM
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Margaret looked so beautiful in that dress and so does Siluca. Their dance was nice. Lord Milza just slaughtered those people like it was nothing. Very cool. I wonder how Theo is going to deal with that.
Feb 9, 2018 10:16 AM
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I don't get why this series gets a lot of hate, I am really enjoying it.

That new guy in black interests me, maybe he will make trouble for Theo later on, anyway, he has my attention.
I still really can't trust Villar, dude is hiding something.

I really liked how they handled the music/OST in this episode.

4/5 to my surprise, I am really enjoying this series and this episode doesn't change it.
Feb 9, 2018 10:22 AM
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That dance between Margaret and Villar was pretty intense in some parts to say the least... (O_O)

I like the chemistry/relationship developing between Theo and Siluca also.
Feb 9, 2018 10:48 AM
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That guy in the black cloth is Lord Milza, better remember his name cause he's gonna have a huge role later, and I completely ship him with Theo.
Feb 9, 2018 11:10 AM
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I don't get why this series gets a lot of hate, I am really enjoying it.

That new guy in black interests me, maybe he will make trouble for Theo later on, anyway, he has my attention.
I still really can't trust Villar, dude is hiding something.

I really liked how they handled the music/OST in this episode.

4/5 to my surprise, I am really enjoying this series and this episode doesn't change it.

In my case it's not hate, I stopped watching it because I couldn't stand the pace of the show. And it really pissed me off because it was one of the series that I expected most this season.
Feb 9, 2018 11:11 AM

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A good episode, especially liked Margaret's dance.
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Yes he is; hes also fairly ruthless; and yes he did. I believe the only survivors were the daughters and Nikola.

Nikola has precisely survived, but about daughters, I still do not understand whether they survived or not.
Feb 9, 2018 11:18 AM

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In my case it's not hate, I stopped watching it because I couldn't stand the pace of the show. And it really pissed me off because it was one of the series that I expected most this season.


For me it's completely the opposite, I wasn't sure if to watch it or not because it didn't seem like my kind of show, but it surprised me and I happy I picked it.

But yeah I agree with you. the pace of this show is weird I can see why you hate it because of that.
Feb 9, 2018 11:51 AM
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So even Margaret can lose her composure. Quite a grand birthday party for Margaret though. Its nice that Theo and Siluca got the chance to dance though. The fight between the prince and Theo sure was intense though. The best warriors are those that know when to fight and when to not. The counts understanding of the hidden meaning of his mothers abuse was interesting though. Its sad that Margaret Viltar won't be together though. Siluca's plan though certainly was ambitious. The prince certainly is lethal able to seize the castle that single handily
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Feb 9, 2018 2:43 PM

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Finally, something good after five very bad episodes. 3/5
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Feb 9, 2018 3:18 PM

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That's pretty sad that Margaret will be leaving already, I liked her a lot.

Not sure what to think of lord Mirza at this point, though I do like that he endorses Villar.

They are going by land because Siluca hates water lol, that is kinda funny.

Aishela is still clinging into that guy, I wonder if they actually have a relationship by now.

I must admit that was very impressive by lord Mirza.
Feb 9, 2018 4:29 PM
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Best episode by far in terms of the story.

This anime confuses me. I can't tell if it's good or bad. It has some really nice character designs and some of the best animated fights, but also some really akward frames here and there. I feel entranced by the world and really wana know more, but I'm confused as hell about what in the world is going on in politically and geographically because the show does a pretty bad job of getting those ideas across. I honestly have almost zero inkling of who's fighting who over what at the moment. I really like some of the side characters, but there are so many we barely get a glimpse of them most of the time. And I alternate between thinking Theo is pretty useless, to thinking he's actually a pretty decent guy every other episode.

It's probably the pacing that's the issue, like others have said. It's been crazy fast. I swear this episode would've ended at least twice before we got to the final massacre. So many things happened.
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Feb 9, 2018 4:35 PM

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Villar and Margaret's dance was actually pretty fun to watch. Can't say the same about that scene with the two of them at the table. It probably would have felt more emotional if I actually had any reason to give a crap about those characters. Pretty much all the development they've gotten was in this one episode. It's a shame we likely won't see more of Margaret any time soon.

That castle sacking was pretty badass though
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Feb 9, 2018 6:00 PM

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Felt like a filler episode...

I'm probably dropping this series because I've just kind of stopped caring
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Feb 9, 2018 10:52 PM

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More mediocrity, but to be fair, it's better than the previous episodes. Though, that wasn't a very high bar.

The dancing animation felt god awful, and the quality of the first half of the episode felt really shitty in general.
Feb 10, 2018 1:18 AM

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Although the first part (the dancing) seemed wierd it's because the budget was clearly more focused on the brilliant fight scenes cause that was epic O_O

Come a long way, I hated this show at the first episode and here I am praising it's improvement. Let's see how this plays.
Feb 10, 2018 1:22 AM
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I don't know if its the translation, but some of the dialogue comes across strangely ambiguous and I have a hard time following who is in the Union and who is in the Alliance sometimes. Not to mention Villar's conversation with Margaret about her mother.

There is so much potential in this story. But the pacing and buildup of the story drag it down. In the hands of a better director and screenwriter it would be better.
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Feb 10, 2018 2:20 AM

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Fairly speaking, that's the best episode so far.
But unfortunately is because there's not much Theo this episode and they focus half of the episode towards Villar and that red-haired babe.

Farabeuf said:
There is so much potential in this story. But the pacing and buildup of the story drag it down. In the hands of a better director and screenwriter it would be better.

You mean if only this is a 52 episode anime?
Feb 10, 2018 4:46 AM

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We need romance tag :)
Feb 10, 2018 5:26 AM
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I wish Margaret didn t leave even after her birthday
She still loves Villar and still She can t be his bride now I actually ship them so hard even when they danced together
Still we cute moments with Theo and Siluca :D
Feb 10, 2018 5:54 AM

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I wonder what happened to the two blond daughters. Did they survive ?! Or killed ?
Feb 10, 2018 6:19 AM

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Hmm...Villar is missing who ever is in that painting? he looked nostalgic...and some reason....I feel tough I should seriously cringe...after Vilar asked when Margaret's birthday was....her face after that...ouch..
ah...25th Birthday....that explains it...

Villar really has shown up to be pretty good lord....nothing like his rumored reputation in episode 1-2...That Dance tough......Daaaamn.....Wow......Villar.....what a history....I feel sorry for these 2..

This Milza...he is quite interesting tough...serving as fags of future Emperor...who ever that might be.... interesting

O.O WHAT A BADASS!!!! Entire Castle by himself.... wonder tough...Is Opening showing us that he will eventually follow that Villar's cousin?



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Feb 10, 2018 9:59 AM

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Siluca & Margaret in their dresses were really a feast for the eyes. Theo taking the initiative to take Siluca dancing surprised me, especially since he said himself he didn't know how to dance.

Lord Milza, Holy shit he's very powerful.... taking out so many people on his own, Real bad-ass! Looking forward to more from him.
Feb 10, 2018 10:01 AM
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My expectations are rock-bottom, but this was a pretty good episode.

Poor storytelling = a lot of it is still confusing. (something about a Union and an Alliance? why are all those lords meeting? why can't that guy marry that mage?)

But the feelz part and the scorpion guy sacking the castle by himself was great. And: "at the suggestion of a mage who doesn't like to travel by water...." (blush) lol.
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Feb 10, 2018 11:51 AM

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They danced a good dance, fought a good fight, and the black dude kicked some ass hard. Twas a good episode.
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Feb 10, 2018 1:39 PM
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Literally everyone is more op and badass than Theo and he gets all the fame.
Feb 10, 2018 1:59 PM
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Really uneventful and boring. 5/10
Feb 10, 2018 5:32 PM

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So close...


Theo's fight with the other dude was obviously a comparison of their approaches. One leaves a trail of dead enemies, the other a trail of dead allies. Apparently this will be a theme for at least the next episode.
Feb 11, 2018 3:05 AM

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Really? I hadn't noticed.
Feb 11, 2018 3:49 AM

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Fight more, you bastards! Good, Theo has found his opposite self at Lord Milza; dead allies versus dead enemies. He will a hard time to convince Milza. That dancing scene was superb! I wonder what will happen to Margaret? She is a strong figure.
Feb 11, 2018 7:02 AM

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This guy is a murderer. I like it!
Too bad he will lose one day vs the awful MC

Seriously this anime is way better out of the stupid battlefield
Feb 11, 2018 10:55 AM

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I think we're finally moving into the meat of the story, which is great. Except at this point it feels too late to get people to truly like Theo. Siluca at least has demonstrated some personality, but Theo has just been incredibly bland. Villar has been much, much more intriguing by comparison.
Feb 11, 2018 12:32 PM

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This guy is a murderer. I like it!
Too bad he will lose one day vs the awful MC



Not just that, but he's a reasonable murderer at that! I mean, he gave those lords 3 days to take all the money or whatever possessions they could and clear out and even tellin' em no1 needs to die. Granted, he prolly knew no one would yield in front of a single man. At least he gets to say " Hey, I told 'em so." though!
Feb 11, 2018 7:14 PM
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Is every lord this weak one guy comes in and demands a castle from someone named Venom in front of a dozen other lords and just mows them down like how does he even earn that title Venom if hes this weak i just want a really good battle like Daryun and Hilmes or Kaneki and Jason and a scene where Theo defeats a lord then suddenly angry citizens tries to avenge the lord cause he was actually a good lord who happens to be an enemy and not all enemy lords are assholes or jerks
Feb 12, 2018 12:49 AM

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The Forbidden love between Villar & Margaret is dangerously sweet but at the same time cannot be flourished!
I smell dark corrupting vibes from Lord Mirza!
LOL at Aishela, still so obsessed with her boylet!
Damn! that was SAVAGE killing all those men inside the room! Mirza is somewhat looked like a villain!
4/5.


Feb 12, 2018 2:11 AM
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Titadou said:
This guy is a murderer. I like it!
Too bad he will lose one day vs the awful MC



Not just that, but he's a reasonable murderer at that! I mean, he gave those lords 3 days to take all the money or whatever possessions they could and clear out and even tellin' em no1 needs to die. Granted, he prolly knew no one would yield in front of a single man. At least he gets to say " Hey, I told 'em so." though!


that makes him sounded no different than a robber doing a stickup but instead of money hes demanding lands, title, and castles
Feb 15, 2018 1:40 PM
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Shit Arab Guy just took all the fun.
Feb 15, 2018 9:38 PM

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Those dances had more animation than all of Ballroom e Youkoso.
Feb 22, 2018 1:26 PM
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Margaret is so incredibly fine, especially during that dance. It's sad to see her go.

The man in black is pretty badass, even gave Theo some wise advice about fighting.

The exchange between Villar and Margaret was actually pretty great character interaction. Seems as though he had a pretty tough past.

Always hate to see women like Margaret go.
Feb 22, 2018 3:46 PM
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good episode, 7/10
Feb 22, 2018 7:49 PM

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Sucks that Margaret and Villar can't be together. That dance was something. You could cut the sexual tension with a knife.
Sad to see Margaret go, but hopefully she'll be back.

Milza is insane. He's so badass.
Feb 25, 2018 12:13 PM
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The dance was better prepared than the Theo´s "battles" in another episode!!!
Well, and for it doesn't change, a diary extra portion of blood unnecessary!!!
The characters are very rigid, this doesn´t change too!!!
Mar 1, 2018 6:05 AM

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This episode was on the slower side this time around, which is nice as this show was going really fast. Actually no, I don't necessarily agree that the show has fast pacing. More like they just skip a lot of stuff and don't really explain anything. You can see they are just trying cover as much they can from the LN.
Mar 3, 2018 6:00 PM

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Siluca looks gorgeous with that dress, and so does Margaret with her red dress ^^ It was nice to see the ladies dancing.

I sensed since the beginning that that arabian guy seemed fishy. I wonder if he's one of the villains...

Good episode :)

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May 16, 2018 11:53 PM

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DAMN..TOO OP PLS NERF

Oct 30, 2018 12:38 AM

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Margaret so fine in dem winter clothes.
My waifu Colleen oppai looking good.
Margaret is 24 and her birthday is coming up.
HOLY SHIT! LAWD JESUS! MARGARET IN DAT DRESS! DAT OPPAI! FAPFAPFAPFAPFAPFAPFAP!
Colleen looking cute in dat dress.
WTF! I want Margaret breathing hard on me.
No. Margaret was made for me.
lol at Theo stepping on her foot.
Margaret loves Villar? NO!!!!!!
Villar rejected Margaret. YES!!!!!
LMAO Made dude suck his sword like a dick and killed him.

Happy birthday to my waifu Margaret.
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So close...


Theo's fight with the other dude was obviously a comparison of their approaches. One leaves a trail of dead enemies, the other a trail of dead allies. Apparently this will be a theme for at least the next episode.
thanks for nice pict, lol..
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