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| It is one of the most overrated movie. It was mediocre, I rated it 6/10 Koe no Katachi is my opinion is better than this, but that movie is also overrated |
| I don't think its overrated. I personally rated it 7 because I much prefer the past Shinkai works, yet i agree this is a good romance movie. |
| It was 'pretty' to watch and all, but the story wasn't that great, and the typical Japanese 'i cant express myself culture' was heavily tied into making the story-line work at all. |
| It's overrated, and I slightly preferred Koe no Katachi, but this is still a very good movie. |
| Probably because of romance hungry teens and female viewers... I mean it was good at places, I personally liked the comet stuff past 1/3 of movie or so and the art of the landscapes and buildings was very nice but no way this should be 9.26, there are better shows out there... |
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| Some angry kids can't seem to deal with the fact the movie has a good mark. |
| Quite a bit overrated. 7-8/10 score IMO |
| For those who said Kimi no Na wa was overrated, I think they should watch it again then rewatch it again. You couldn't say this film is a truly masterpiece, unless you get the beauty on it's every detail. So, please rewatch it again, then try to interpreting the details, and you'll get that no one film could surpass the beauty of Kimi no Na wa. |
| I can easily see why so many people rated it a 10, I was close to giving it this but I didn't feel enough emotional attachment to the characters, which is mostly just a consequence of being a movie and not enough time to develop them. I can't think of much that would have made this film better, and it appealed to such a wide audience it's easy to see why it's so highly rated. That said, it isn't the best anime of all time like it's rating suggests. |
| Watched it a few days ago and yes, I agree with you, I liked it but, like I didn't like it enough. 7-8 stuff. I think that if I went without expectations, which I tried, I would have enjoyed it more. I expected to be left crying in the floor or something, and I did not. |
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| I agree it's overrated. Koe no Katachi is way better but has recieved much less attention. |
| YES. There is no emotion on this movie. |
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| I agree with you lmao |
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| Overrated like all Shinkai movies. For people who are bothered by this movie's rating, I'd just like to tell you all that 5cm/s fell from 8.71 to 8.01 over 10 years. I thought that movie was really overrated back then and people were talking shit to me about how I didn't know what I was talking about. Just give this movie 9 more years and it won't be overrated anymore either. |
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| It depends what you mean by overrated. My definition of overrated is if the difference between perceived value and real value is higher than a certain delta. Now based on this definition I would not say it is overrated. I would say that it would have been nice to be a miniseries so that certain segments of the story could be developed more but apart from that it was a really good show. |
| It was decent and average and thats it. |
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| Ok so I watched this as soon as the subs came out, I was hyping it up because I LOVED 5cms per seconds. When I watched this, I thought it was okay, I enjoyed it quite a lot and even gave it a 7/10, but I really did not expect people to like it so much and give it 9s or 10s saying that it was a masterpiece and stuff... did we watch different movies or? Seriously though, I'm really wondering if I should rewatch this or something |
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| Yes I think that Kimi no nawa is overrated. But I respect if other people think this is a good movie... |
| Lol slightly :D The plot was shit and unoriginaly though. It deserves 5/10 period. |
Tenderizer17 said: zodd0 said: I agree it's overrated. Koe no Katachi is way better but has recieved much less attention. Koe no Katachi: $31,648,638 Kimi no na Wa: $343,440,676 Are you appropriately in tears? Well Kimi no na wa is basically normie pandering to the largest possible audience, of course it's gonna sell well. |
Tenderizer17 said: Kimi no na Wa strikes me as a film that was designed specifically to be as acclaimed as possible, rather than as good as possible. Any good director would aim for their film to be as good as possible in the hopes that'll make it as acclaimed as possible. Anyway, here's my evidence. 1. The directing, is structured with incredible precision, to hide all the movies flaws from the public. 2. The characters, are meant to be easily relatable, in lieu of interesting. They don't develop over the course of the film and are only given just as much depth as necessary (Kinda like with Fate Zero). Taki is a city boy who aspires to be an architect and is "weak but quick tempered" (based only on someone saying so). Mitsuha aspires to move to Tokyo and ... that's about it. Basically, the characters were constructed lazily and explicitly. 3. The movie was filled with as many plot twists as conceivable, which may make the film thrilling, but doesn't really make it better. 4. The movie was designed to be watched in theaters, which is how reviewers are going to be watching it. 5. Melodrama, melodrama everywhere thinly veiled as drama. 6. All of the emotion, and plot twists, convey nothing. There's no heart involved in this movie. It's a cold and calculated attempt to fleece glowing reviews out of its audience. For that reason, I give Kimi no na Wa a 2/10. Shinkai is doing his best to exploit me into rating it higher, something I won't let happen. Im happy to see an opinion so similar to mine. |
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| @Tenderizer17, I don't agree with you :( better change that last sentence |
Tenderizer17 said: I ended up turning all this into a well structured review of Kimi no na Wa, and I have never been more proud of anything I've written in my life. Kind of a shame I didn't get any hate mail for it though. I was wholly prepared to get into a tonne of arguments because of it. Instead 5 people rated as helpful and one person expressed their agreement with me. I feel empty. Long story short. It seems everybody is in agreement with me. Yeah I kinda feel urged to make a review but im really lazy and struggle to fit all my thoughts into a review. I hear Shinkai has even dissed this movie and has pointed out flaws and referred to it as incomplete which is a big feeling I had as well. |
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EGOIST said: @Tenderizer17, I don't agree with you :( better change that last sentence What do you disagree with him on? |
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| @Andrei_Rublev 4. The movie was designed to be watched in theaters, which is how reviewers are going to be watching it. I mean at this point, it's really subjective on how you view what the show's purpose is and it seems like the movie didn't connect or have an impact on him whatsover. I mean it really isn't up for debate on the part about the film having no heart involved. Otherwise, I doubt Shinkai would've worked on this for years. It's pretty obvious that you'd think that way when you didn't feel anything while watching. The shows isn't perfect, it has tons of flaws and even Shinkai himself says that he felt like the years he's worked on it isn't enough and I agree with him but even then, that didn't stop the show from being simple yet intriguing at the same time. Even after rewatching this film, I still can say that I loved the film. Of course my words can be considered platonic in your perspective since you didn't like the film. His review is more subjective than objective if anything, I think it's better if he pointed out the flaws of the movie apart from his subjective opinion and rather speak for himself rather than as a whole, it makes it seem like the audience who loved the film are a bunch of idiots, blindly loving the film which isn't entirely the case.3.The movie was filled with as many plot twists as conceivable, which may make the film thrilling, but doesn't really make it better. 6. All of the emotion, and plot twists, convey nothing. There's no heart involved in this movie. It's a cold and calculated attempt to fleece glowing reviews out of its audience. I have no problem with his opinion though. Since this film is rather subjective than objective in terms of how you really look at it.(Contradictory with what I said I know haha) |
EGOISTJan 31, 2018 11:04 PM
| @Tenderizer17, I think you're confusing shows about self discovery for shows that's about finding that perfect someone for you. I mean I would have agreed with you if this show has a different objective in mind but the characters were fine in the film and worked better than some depressed guy or something along those lines. What reason do they need to make the characters being all complicated and hard to understand? The others you've mentioned had a reason to make their characters that way and Kimi no na Wa certainly doesn't need too complex characters. Most international movies don't even have that much memorable characters especially on the romance genre. I think you should look at it as a movie rather than a series since character development takes some time and isn't easily achieved. You might say otherwise with Koe no Katachi and Anthem of the Heart, but that was the purpose of those films. It's okay, that's what the forums are for. Everyone's going to butt heads eventually as long as it doesn't go outside the topic |
EGOISTJan 31, 2018 11:29 PM
EGOIST said: @Tenderizer17, I think you're confusing shows about self discovery for shows that's about finding that perfect someone for you. I mean I would have agreed with you if this show has a different objective in mind but the characters were fine in the film and worked better than some depressed guy or something along those lines. What reason do they need to make the characters being all complicated and hard to understand? The others you've mentioned had a reason to make their characters that way and Kimi no na Wa certainly doesn't need too complex characters. Most international movies don't even have that much memorable characters especially on the romance genre. I think you should look at it as a movie rather than a series since character development takes some time and isn't easily achieved. You might say otherwise with Koe no Katachi and Anthem of the Heart, but that was the purpose of those films. It's okay, that's what the forums are for. Everyone's going to butt heads eventually as long as it doesn't go outside the topic I dont think its that the characters arent complex its that they have nothing that makes them interesting. The two main characters are so bland they feel interchangeable which is especially bad in a film with body swopping. The film doesnt really explore these characters and much of their body swapping situation is fast forwarded through. Their personal life struggles like the girl and her relationship with her father the mayor and the boy and his crush on his co worker are explored so minimally if feels like those situations couldve been removed and nothing would be lost. |
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| @Andrei_Rublev, in that regard I can see where you're coming from. It did feel too half baked. @Tenderizer17, I think you're going out of context with the first paragraph. They are flawed, they seem to be acting like normal humans and have problems like other humans do. Taki with his love life and Mitsuha with his family. I don't really see Kimi no Na wa. as a realistic take of the genre but rather a fairytale one. Fairy tales seem to only happen in a dream and that's how Kimi no Na wa. felt for me. If you can explain further what you mean by flawless characters then kindly explain it to me because from what I've seen they're flawed. Another you might not like it but I do kind of subjectivity. If you think that way then that's fine. I think they provided at least some development for that characters shown when they were witnessing the other's life. The fact is, Kimi no Na wa. manages to balance out its supernatural elements without drifting too much from its main focus. If you're up for it, a perfect example of a movie that failed to balance this out was "Uchiage Hanabi" which the BD will be released in April this year. I watched it at theaters and all I can say is that, you would appreciate Kimi no Na wa. more with its efforts to balance out it's themes rather than completely overshadowing the romance subplot which Uchiage Hanabi failed to do. That movie had no character motivations and has had 0 development throughout the whole show because it got completely immersed with its supernatural elements. Funny enough, the original source material was supposed to come off as a "coming of age" story which heavily needs a lot of characterization than Kimi no Na wa. does. |
| @Tenderizer17, let's just call it a day :) |
Tenderizer17 said: EGOIST said: Agree'd, this is getting tiring. The law of internet arguments: they don't ever end with a victor, but just two people with arthritis and a headache. Let's just call it a day :) BTW: I raised my score of Kimi no na wa from 2/10 to 5/10, but that wasn't because of this argument. I just fluctuates between those two scores at random Tbh it was a civil argument and worth the read m8s |
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| Slightly? A mediocre movie being top 2? Geez idk. |
| This thread gets me more excited to watch it and give it a 10/10 because overrated is always an obvious gem for me. |
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