| This is a thread to discuss about the LATEST SPOILERS of DNA. If you do not want or do not like to see the spoiler, then do not read any further, there will be spoilers everywhere. Greetings, I'm GDV. I'm creating a discussion thread here for anyone interested in to come and discuss about the RAW spoilers of DNA. I will posts text spoilers and spoiler translation here for people to read and discuss on the latest chapter of DNA; however, I am not part of a RAW or Scanlation provider or am I trying to compete with them so be aware that the translation of the chapters will be rough and sloppy (cos sometimes I do it after work, drinking and stuffs), so I won't be doing scanlation. Please refer to the direct page of the translation groups for your scans and better translation and support them for their wonderful contribution to the community. If you don't mind sloppy translation (please go ahead to correct me and point out sloppy translations if you see them) and want to discuss anything related to DNA's spoiler and occasionally side track RL baseball (please place in Spoilers tag to make it clean for everyone if you discuss about RL baseball). Welcome and have fun! --------------------------------------- Below is some of the information about DNA's pitchers for your references: + Pitchers' stats by game (compiled by Manganimae, me and others): + Official pitchers' data sheet (translated by TDX): + Speculation on Sawamura's pitches based on shown grips: General information related to the story: +Official recap of the story so far: + High school baseball Tournament calendar year in Japan: |
GDVAug 11, 2018 5:21 AM
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| Hello! Thanks for making another forum @GDV!! Hopefully this one stays up for a while... Not that I contribute much, but the story's being very boring - I haven't read much of the manga lately, let alone the discussions! But still, it's fun to read your-all discussions, so making my move from here too :) Yoroshikune! ;) |
| Wonder if were going to get full a chapter of furyua hype |
| @lost1gryff Thanks, hopefully we will be able to settle down here for time to come. I'll post chapter translation and discussion here starting this week. @Travee_Wavvee Probably but that's not a concern now is it, this late in the game. |
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| Hey all, glad the community can still go on despite all the moves, and we may pick up some people on MAL too. |
| Nice. Someone made a spoiler thread! |
| Yay~ Let's hope these forums won't go down for a while. And yeah, we'll probably see a few chapters of Furuya hype since there's a need to prove (should I write 'shove it down our throats'? since the manner is almost always heavy-handed) that he's a real contender for the ace title. I at least hope Yamamori proves an interesting team. |
CGJan 11, 2018 6:55 AM
| ったく、嫌な世の中だよ。 |
| I hope you guys don't jynx MAL as well. haha |
| hi to all... Again |
ADellaLunaJan 14, 2018 1:40 AM
Roy_28 said: I hope you guys don't jynx MAL as well. haha lol don't you jinx us Roy |
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RoKrish said: Hey @GDV! ... saito threw 941 and Tanaka threw 742 in their second year). I would like him to come back to some sort of form that is usable for seidou. Hi RoKrish, great to see so many of you made the quick transfer. Let us have a good time discussing here as well. Yeah, Saito's condition is the last thing I want to see happen to Sawamura. Good thing that Seidou runs on a pitcher relay. That relief a lot of the work load on the pitchers and help them maintain their form for their Professional career, which I think Terajima would love to write if he could but that's still too far ahead at this point |
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| Heya again guys!! ^ ^ bookmarked this thread!!our DnA new home ^ ^ |
Oh trust me, I know. Just wonder if Terajima's actually going to throw away a koshien level team for the sake of Furuya hype. |
Travee_WavveeJan 11, 2018 3:07 PM
Norana said: Thanks godamfireV for setting up our new home base! (again) hope TDX and the others will come, too! already spotted some familiar user names ^^ I really enjoy following your discussions :) (for me it's still kinda hard to participate despite following the manga for years, because I lack the knowledge compared to you guys... Baseball isn't common at all where I live) hopefully, we get to stay here for good this time - still bummed about Batoto T.T If I'm not wrong, @CG is TDX so she(?) is already there. ---- I hope we'll see the match of Seidou soon. And I would like have this Miyuki-Mei battery. Let Miyuki comeback with some good things to Seidou~ |
| MAL Forum's are pretty good, so this will be a nice place, and it won't get shut down, atleast not for a long ass time. |
| there goes my little to no use batoto account lol, gonna keep on lurking over here. |
WaitingDB5K said: If I'm not wrong, @CG is TDX so she(?) is already there. ---- I hope we'll see the match of Seidou soon. And I would like have this Miyuki-Mei battery. Let Miyuki comeback with some good things to Seidou~ Yeah, I suspect that's him too. Miyuki will get the best seat to see Mei's pitches now that Inui is injured. As the rep team's coach, Kunitomo would be responsible for all these "talented" players he "borrowed" from the other schools so he realistically he wouldn't risk even one chance of letting Inui playing with an injury. So Miyuki x Mei battery is probably 100% confirmed baring a wacky development like making Tadano fills in for Inui instead of Miyuki. Last time we got the spoilers on Sunday but that was a lucky get on New Year, we don't know if we can expect the spoiler to arrive tomorrow, just a heads up for everyone to be aware of. |
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Roy_28 said: I hope you guys don't jynx MAL as well. haha Well, there's crunchyroll just in case. |
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why_you said: At the top of the page click on "Toggle Watching"how to subscribe this topic? |
| raws of chapter 108 Aaaand, finally the event that makes this whole arc of Japan vs the USA worthwhile - the Mei-Miyuki battery. Shirakawa's reaction especially delivers: "If he gets hit, it's your fault. If we lose the game, it's your fault. Everything is your fault, period." At the same time, I'm kinda worried what he thought to himself how just in case they designed a plan in preparation to this kind of situation and that they're not going to let Miyuki have info on them for free. Sounds like a trap for Miyuki... Yamamori are happy out of their boots to play Furuya, overjoying that it was worth going all the way to Tokyo to get an upclose look at him. And now I want Seidou to play Yamamori at Koushien - only with Sawamura as the ace! The look on their faces when they realize that their joy was oh so premature and that all the painstakingly collected info on Furuya is useless in face of Sawamura who'd mow them down like nobody's business would be hilarious~~ |
| ったく、嫌な世の中だよ。 |
| Worried about the way Furuya is dominating and keeping his pitches low and controlled. If he plays great everyone will say the ace is back. Hopefully Kataoka will think logically and still make Sawamura the ace. To be honest I think Sawamura will be made the ace because it will be miyukis last summer and although the main character is Sawamura who knows if the story will continue once Miyuki is done with the team. So this is the last chance for Sawamura to be made ace. Especially since they probably wouldn’t change ace numbers again for the fall or their 3rd summer. It has to be now, and I think he will get it. |
| Also anyone know why my profile picture isn’t showing when I comment? |
CG said: raws of chapter 108 Aaaand, finally the event that makes this whole arc of Japan vs the USA worthwhile - the Mei-Miyuki battery. Shirakawa's reaction especially delivers: "If he gets hit, it's your fault. If we lose the game, it's your fault. Everything is your fault, period." At the same time, I'm kinda worried what he thought to himself how just in case they designed a plan in preparation to this kind of situation and that they're not going to let Miyuki have info on them for free. Sounds like a trap for Miyuki... Thanks for the spoilers!! I agree, the silver lining to this whole arc is definitely Mei-Miyuki battery... Mei seems too overconfident or not at all worried about Miyuki being able to get info on him - whether it's because they plan to hide some of his pitches; or he is at such a beast level that even if they know his pitches, it's not gonna help Seidou... Though, if Mei hides his pitches against the op US-team, the game would be kinda pitiful... I don't even want to read the whole great-Furuya comments - they are just too repetitive... Really want this US-JP arc to finish and the story to move forward... Gundens said: Also anyone know why my profile picture isn’t showing when I comment? I think you need to add an avatar in the forum settings for the userpic to appear... |
lost1gryffJan 14, 2018 3:23 PM
| Chapter 108: Get it back Opening note: Unequaled!! We are number one in the world! Side note: Overcoming the emergency situation, Inui x Mei battery seal away the opponent line up. It's time for the counterattack. Their chance of counterattack is limited to only 3 remaining innings, go take down the American's Ace. Inajitsu's manager/doctor?: Just for a fleeting moment, his consciousness slipped away so I think he shouldn't push himself. Inui: I'm okay, I'll do it. (It's a team that come in swinging hard, I did keep in mind not to get too close to the batter but unknowingly I moved closer and closer to the plate because I wanted to catch Mei's breaking pitch with certainty. Kengo Inui, thou still lacking!) Audiences: Ah, it's 2 outs so quickly. Can they hit from that pitcher? Kunitomo: Yamaoka, you take 1st base starting from this inning. I can't push the players I have been entrusted with (from other teams) at this point of time before Summer. I'll preserve Inui and let him rest. Umemiya: Inui is switched out eh, so who would be the catcher? He didn't allow a catcher from the same prefecture to partner up with (their pitchers) before. [pretty thick eh Umemiya] Kunitomo: Miyuki, can I count on you? Kunitomo to Mei: I switched Inui out, in exchange, I'll have Miyuki handles the catching responsibility. Shirawaka: It can't be helped, there aren't any other catcher. Carlos: For real? Shunshin: To catch for Narumiya means that he'll be able to learn everything from techniques to habits to even small information, giving that away to a catcher with sharp sense from a rival team should be something that they would like to avoid the most Shirawaka: Well, we did expect something like this to happen so we have prepared a plan ourselves. We ain't going to give away information to a cunning guy like this for free. [oh snap!] Mei: Kazuya, as it's came to this, there's nothing to hide, they're not the kind of opponent we can beat by just forming a battery and figure things out as we go, they have pretty dangerous bunch assembled there. Miyuki: If that's so then don't you shake off my sign. Mei: If your game calling doesn't worth shaking off then of course. Miyuki: I won't let you shake it off! Carlos: Well well, can you actually control our "King"? Shirakawa: If he got hit, then it's your fault. If we lose then it's your fault, it's all your fault alright? Yamaoka: We'll get the points, you devote yourself to game calling. Miyuki: ... Mei: Kazuya, since you're a catcher, better make me shine. Miyuki: ...you little. Just how much condescending can you guys be. Inui: Narumiya, my bad. Umemiya: Alright, the contest starts now. Let's defend well and connect to our attack. --At Seidou's field-- Furuya strikes out a batter. Players: So this is Furuya, Furuya Satoru of Seidou eh. Yamamori coach: It has worth our time coming all the way to Tokyo. Seihou coach: He pitches such incredible ball. Kunitomo-san would have his work cut out for him at this rate. Ono: Your pitches are in the zone but you're still putting too much force into it. Let's relax your shoulder. Okumura: He obviously overstraining like crazy. It's because you said such a thing to him... Sawamura: ...No, though it frustrates me but he's able to get strike out even in that kind of state. Zono, Mochi, Haruichi, Kane does the usual cheering stuffs. Furuya recalls Sawamura telling him to not get tensed and self-destruct on the team and Ono telling him he shouldn't play one-man baseball. Furuya: I understand, the me right now can't shoulder the No. 1...I'll try to get it back once more. End note: Once you make your decision, there's no going back. Snatch the place you belong with your own hands. |
GDVJan 14, 2018 11:57 PM
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Gundens said: Also anyone know why my profile picture isn’t showing when I comment? CG said: At the same time, I'm kinda worried what he thought to himself how just in case they designed a plan in preparation to this kind of situation and that they're not going to let Miyuki have info on them for free. Sounds like a trap for Miyuki... Yamamori are happy out of their boots to play Furuya, overjoying that it was worth going all the way to Tokyo to get an upclose look at him. And now I want Seidou to play Yamamori at Koushien - only with Sawamura as the ace! The look on their faces when they realize that their joy was oh so premature and that all the painstakingly collected info on Furuya is useless in face of Sawamura who'd mow them down like nobody's business would be hilarious~~ Yup, Shirakawa made it sounds like they may be willing to try something to mess up Miyuki's information, as expected from Kunitomo. However, it's doubtful whether that would work because the players are getting fired up and playing seriously, it's difficult to "hold back" or make deception when they're going all out like this but let's see. And yeah, the look on ALL of their face when they sees Sawamura wears that No. 1 and their information on Furuya goes out of the window because Sawamura will starts and pitch a full game will be priceless. @Rokrish |
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GDV said: Yeah, if Inajitsu doesn't want to turn this whole international game into a farce because of their fear of local rival team players, Mei has no choice but to pitch for real, so it's unavoidable. From how Shirakawa made it sound, it looks like their plan implies something of a more or less equivalent exchange, that is, it's probably not so much about throwing Miyuki off about Mei's pitches, as it is about making Miyuki reveal all they can about his way of assessing opponents and game calling. After all, we've already seen that Miyuki's particular way of pitch calling is not invincible and can be used against him (when Hakuryuu, knowing about his aggressiveness in a tight spot, successfully predicted he will ask an inside pitch). Dangerously enough, Mei and Sawamura are similar enough in their grit and drive to attack (was noted all the way back in the Seidou vs Inajitsu final) that what Miyuki might ask of Sawamura in a particular situation or against a certain type of batter can be extrapolited from how Miyuki went about it in Mei's case. Thus, Mei's pitches exposed to Miyuki can be negated somewhat by Miyuki's ways of thinking and acting in certain situations being exposed to Inajitsu. Also, I won't be surprised if Itsuki is on the bleachers somewhere, being jelly and learning with all his might all at the same time.Yup, Shirakawa made it sounds like they may be willing to try something to mess up Miyuki's information, as expected from Kunitomo. However, it's doubtful whether that would work because the players are getting fired up and playing seriously, it's difficult to "hold back" or make deception when they're going all out like this but let's see. Also, Miyuki's weaknesses as a catcher being unexpectedly found out and exploited opens wide a door for the first year catchers to come in and negate them in the Inajitsu battle. I don't want it though, I don't find the first years interesting or worthy enough for that, so to me it will be a letdown, if that happens. |
| ったく、嫌な世の中だよ。 |
CG said: Yeah, if Inajitsu doesn't want to turn this whole international game into a farce because of their fear of local rival team players, Mei has no choice but to pitch for real, so it's unavoidable. From how Shirakawa made it sound, it looks like their plan implies something of a more or less equivalent exchange, that is, it's probably not so much about throwing Miyuki off about Mei's pitches, as it is about making Miyuki reveal all they can about his way of assessing opponents and game calling. ... Also, Miyuki's weaknesses as a catcher being unexpectedly found out and exploited opens wide a door for the first year catchers to come in and negate them in the Inajitsu battle. I don't want it though, I don't find the first years interesting or worthy enough for that, so to me it will be a letdown, if that happens. That's a nice angle of looking at it. If they were willing to give Mei's information to Miyuki, the least thing they can do is to extract as much information about Miyuki himself for their own us as they can. Miyuki may knows Mei's pitches but in exchange, he'll be showing his signs, his game calling tendencies to a bunch of Inajitsu players and their coach as well. That'd be an "equal exchange" in this case. Mei himself did make it sounds like he's not going to hold back anything after all; however, that sentence itself may be the bait for Miyuki to go all out and giving away his information as well. If this is the case, well played Inajitsu. It's always nice to watch Miyuki getting flustered because his game calling plan got read by the opponents. Both instances, in the Ichidaisan game where Amahisa read Miyuki's call for a fastball down the middle as well as Hakuryu's complete grip on Miyuki's tendency of being over-aggressive were great to see. I would even argue, these instances are still few and far between and that we need more of this, to show that even a genius catcher of Miyuki's calibre would have limits to his ability as well at the higher level stage and that the competition is heating up. Plus, it's also an indication that it's time for the pitchers to step up their independence and start giving inputs into the game strategy. This'll fit nicely with Sawamura's recent initiatives of expanding his knowledge on the "art of the game" and game calling. Nevertheless, I doubt the 1st year catchers will have ANY chance to appear in the Final against Inajitsu even if Seidou may be aware that their opponent has a hand to play against Miyuki because Seidou will need both the game calling and the offensive power from Miyuki in the Final right from the start and none of the first year catchers would be up to this challenge yet this Summer. They may get to play in the early rounds but in the Final with the Koshien ticket on the line, they'll have to be bench warmers. |
GDVJan 15, 2018 7:33 AM
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Gundens said: Worried about the way Furuya is dominating and keeping his pitches low and controlled. If he plays great everyone will say the ace is back. Maybe i'm wrong, but from what i see, (3 pitches, first one is un High and barely inside Second one is outside, but not low i'd say middle thid one like the first) So i don't see any news about his control |
elsa16 said: About miyuki calling against Amahisa, he asked for a low fastball, not a high one or a fastball right down the middle. So the idea of pitching a fastball was maybe right, but we can't know cause furuya messed up his control I'm pretty sure he asked for a fastball and thought that the "course wouldn't matter as long as he can make it low enough". The idea of using a fastball was completely read by Amahisa, Furuya screwing up the course was the additional nail in the coffin. @Rokrish You're right. The out-low fastball is the best course to use a fastball, of course followed by a fastball high and in but to those without acute command, a fastball high and in is always easier to pitch because they usually have trouble keeping their fastball low. Plus, the mindset of a flame thrower when they pitches a high-in fastball is to pitch as hard as possible, which in some case worsen their situation since not all batters will swing at those stuffs. The reason Kershaw is so good is not just because he master the art of going in-out and high-low, even when he's down in the count or at full count, he'll often feed the batter an inside Curveball and analysts have all said that the spin he put on that Curveball is so similar to a 4-seamer that batters can't distinguish between them, even if they expect it, their body would react on their own to dodge the ball afraid of the pitch hitting their face, only for the Curveball to bend back into the plate for a K. Nevertheless, it's sort of understandable why Miyuki would always fall back to "fastball high-in" for Furuya since the kid can't control his pitch to save his life. What else can Miyuki do really? What catchers hate the most is when they ask for a low fastball outside but then they'll have to reach back to catch a wild high pitch, when a pitcher misses the mark that long, the catcher usually would just not care about the course altogether. They'd be like "If you're that bad, I'll compensate and ask for easy stuffs but if you got hit, it's your own doing". Which was what Miyuki was sort of forced to do against Ichidaisan because the kid couldn't land his breaking pitch inside the zone, his fastball didn't help him get up in the count either so he's also missing the fastball. @ADellaLuna & Rokrish  -The first pitch looks to be barely in the zone so that's not bad, usually, he would miss way higher than that. It's still quite in the middle though so it's a high middle fastball, not high-in. -The second pitch was Ball, it was wide but the batter swung on it so that's on him. Regardless it's in still in the middle as far as height goes (I'm not making the zone bigger by mistake but it was because it's a closer shot at the batter so the zone needed to be scaled up a bit for accuracy) -The third pitch to me seems like the usual "down the middle meatball". Aside from the last pitch, it's half-way decent considering Furuya's pitch control standards. He's still a middle-upper zone type of pitcher though. Although for a team of Koshien caliber to swing at 3 pitches in a row and even then misses the last pitch down the middle is pretty disappointing to say the least. Yamamori better step it up now otherwise they're not worthy of the Koshien hype given to them. Right now Seihou to me looks like the team with more credits to their name. Also |
GDVApr 24, 2018 12:04 AM
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