Why must some/most female Anime characters always be sexualized/have exaggerated features?

Manaban said:

all i did was say that he wasn't responding to me much either

why are you telling me about nintendo hate ._.

Millireena said:

I don't mind there being a beautiful female character on an anime etc. It's usually the way it's done that bothers me. You can have a girl wearing a v neck or a short dress or something but when you constantly zoom in on her chest or her butt, it says to me that the only reason why she looks like this is for said purpose (fan service It's called?) I was ranting about. And when it's completely unnecessary, I don't get offended if there's a scene where a girl is taking a shower or something but versus when a dude is, I normally see it zoom in or focus on certain parts of her body unlike when a guy is, it's a quick thing and he just plops his shirt back on etc.

Manaban said:

nah, i think it's like a 10 minute grace period or something, but it's definitely way too late now

maybe if you really want to delete it you can ask a mod but i am not sure if they will do so

Manaban said:


i'm tired honestly

i want to get off the ride

Ardania22 said:
I think you just clarified some of the points I've been trying to make, thanks!

To expand on that for anyone who still cares (probably not many of you, but whatever), since anime is a visual medium, what the camera focuses on is an important part of how a particular moment "reads". If the camera has a lot of close-ups of a female characters ass and tits, you're likely going to remember her just for those things, even if she has an arc separate from that. And if you don't believe me, go watch the first Transformers movie and think about why Megan Fox's character isn't hailed as a feminist hero.

Ardania22 said:
Frankly, I don't think my age or time as a fan should prevent me from discussing the medium. I feel like that's kind of elitist.

As for why I haven't been responding to you... well, I've got about ten bajillion different conversations going on in this thread right now. All my fault, of course, but it's a struggle keeping up with all of them.

Energetic-Nova said:
hmmm. Yeah, basically you are so distracted by pantsu and bounces that you can't focus on who they really are. It seems pretty sexist I guess... But I also don't like lewd cameras without purpose.

Ardania22 said:
To keep things simple, I disagree with you on BHNA and TTGL, I don't think Mineta is likeable or that Yoko had much development. A

Ardania22 said:
In that case, I think we should call our argument off. It's clear we won't be able to convince each other of anything, and we'll only be wasting time by trying.

Energetic-Nova said:



hmmm. Yeah, basically you are so distracted by pantsu and bounces that you can't focus on who they really are. It seems pretty sexist I guess... But I also don't like lewd cameras without purpose.

I mean you could stop watching anime intended for men... seems like a good idea.

Kagome isn't even though she doesn't show pantsu. Even though she rescues people a lot. Even though her fanservice scenes are just bathing. :/ Makes me wonder honestly. I am a feminist myself and I compare Kagome's character to Belle from Beauty and the Beast. Development happening because of her and her actions, helps the beast realize who he really is. Is a strong female character because she holds her men to standards.

I wonder if you would talk to me if I was a boy.

Ardania22 said:
I mean, I guess I COULD stop watching male-targeted anime, but again, that locks off a lot of series that I like/I suspect I'll like. It's a case by case sort of deal, I guess.

What anime is Kagome from? I'll consider adding it to my list.

And I'm really sorry I haven't been responding to you. If you want to discuss, I'll discuss!

Ardania22 said:
19. Still a relatively new anime fan, for what it's worth.

Energetic-Nova said:


Funny how you responded only to the comment that made you mad. You seem like you just want to fight rather than find common ground.

I don't think it is elitist to say you haven't seen that much of the medium. You haven't even explored the josei or shoujo genres. Keep watchin anime made for men, then getting mad they are made for men. I don't know what to say honestly.

Energetic-Nova said:


Inuyasha. Which is a shonen written by a woman.

The deal is, I don't think you actually like shonens. You like action anime,with drama and romance. In which case, watch Vision of Escaflowne. Watch Sailor Moon.

Ardania22 said:
I wasn't aware there was a difference between shonen and action. How do they diverge?

Exten37 said:
Expected you to be 14-16 with how you're acting. And yeah that might explain asuka being your favourite character, or maybe you just have shit taste.

Manaban said:

Shounen is a demographic meaning targeted at young boys and action can apply to any demographic so long as it has action elements

SAO is an action for instance, but it is not a shounen because it is an LN adaptation and LNs don't have demographics like manga do

Energetic-Nova said:



hmmm. Yeah, basically you are so distracted by pantsu and bounces that you can't focus on who they really are. It seems pretty sexist I guess... But I also don't like lewd cameras without purpose.

I mean you could stop watching anime intended for men... seems like a good idea.

Kagome isn't even though she doesn't show pantsu. Even though she rescues people a lot. Even though her fanservice scenes are just bathing. :/ Makes me wonder honestly. I am a feminist myself and I compare Kagome's character to Belle from Beauty and the Beast. Development happening because of her and her actions, helps the beast realize who he really is. Is a strong female character because she holds her men to standards.

I wonder if you would talk to me if I was a boy. Guess only male opinions matter to you.

Ardania22 said:
Actually, your comments aren't making me mad. Far from it! I just haven't been able to keep up with everything going on in this post, so I focus on those I feel I have an immediate response to. And yeah, that tends to prioritize the more negative comments.

And if you check out my anime list, you'll see that I am far from a shonen purist. I'm currently watching K-On, and I've got a plethora of similar shows in my cue or in the back of my mind.

Energetic-Nova said:


K-On is also made for men. This is more what a n00b does. Not that I don't like K-On myself...

I wouldn't suggest my list. I have a ton of porn on mine. And I tend to appreciate anime for what they are most of the time. My list is HUGE too.

I am working on creating tags for everything... my taste is just very very diverse. Which is probably the only reason I have lasted so long in the anime niche.

But if you want a list of ecchi series I liked, well, one thing they all have in common is fem-doms or female protagonist.

Exten37 said:
He doesn't have to talk to you if he doesn't want to. Your posts don't even make any sense and you sound mentally ill.

Ardania22 said:
Well, age-related insults aside, I love Asuka because, like Shinji, I relate to feeling alone. I am NOT good with social interaction thanks to my Aspergers syndrome, so I struggle to make friends a lot of the time. Evangelion as a whole reminded me of that part of myself, and it gave me hope that I could get better. Asuka, to me, is an extension of that.

Ardania22 said:
Hey, I appreciate you trying to defend me, but don't pull that "you sound mentally ill" bullshit, okay? Not cool, no matter the circumstances.

Millireena said:


Heh, I tried to abandon this thread, but people kept posting, probably because there's a few unfinished arguments, I mean, I wish I could delete it but I'm not sure if I can?
I'd be lying if I said that I didn't know I'd get this many posts, this was just to vent. And not to mention I think some people are getting to into this...So this'll probably be my last post then (hopefully) I'll poof for good haha.

And honestly, you're the perfect example of unnecessary language and aggressive attitude I mentioned in my first post. If you're so angry at the forums on here why not leave or take a break? Continue and you're just giving yourself an avoidable headache. Just because someone posts something that you don't approve of doesn't allow you to just insult them and/or be a jerk. Was I being rude in my post? No. (I sure hope not though, so in case I offended anyone I'm sorry!) Was I typing in a calm manner? Yes (or mostly haha) So I don't see why you have to react the opposite way. It's completely immature, but I guess I shouldn't expect to see maturity in most people on the internet.

I completely understand your frustration though, seeing the same thread or related etc many times can get annoying, but I do think that you should probably stay away from the forums until you feel better since it's the cause of your anger! +Too much stress isn't good for you, esp getting this mad over a thread! (ono; ) If you don't want to take my advice then so be it! I'm a stranger after all lol!

Soriki said:
Keep on posting you fucking retard
Ever heard of improvement? Ever heard of "git gud"? Yes, get good, holy shit cause you started a cancerous shitstorm with the shit that is your post

"Take a break" I can take a break all I want and come back months later, and cancerous posts will still be getting popular, and it's usually about the same bullshit creating the same of cringy arguments

I can insult you all you want, thanks, fuck off
"Immature" I don't give a shit, this is the internet you fucking retard
This isn't some academic website, it's MAL, where few people use their god damn brains, and it's impressive as shit, it's like "Wow, you actually used your head and are not completely retarded like so many of these other people replying, good fucking job"

"Seeing the same thread" Yes, seeing the same thread is cancer, but that's not the point
Seeing the same level of quality in threads that get popular is the REAL CANCER
Yes, make more posts, I don't care, maybe you'll actually make some worthwhile posts
It's just me venting, not my critique, otherwise I'd god damn analyze every little thing you said and reply to it all and tell you how to "git gud"

"Getting this mad over a thread"
Not a thread, a combination of threads, a trend, a trend of cancer

I should take your advice, but every time I open MAL to see if I have a notification, I look to the right of the forums home page, and I see the "popular threads" and I can literally smell the cancer from the outside by just looking at the title and realize the shit storm it's going to cause/it caused without even entering the thread, it's a sad sense I developed
I should take your advice, fuck this shitty website, but either way, I still want to look at notifications...

Edit: This is one of those posts I want to shit on OP for, but feel bad at the same time for doing it
This whole being "polite" or whatever the fuck thingy isn't helping

DreamingBeats said:
this was probably said over and over, but female characters with over-exagerated design are mostly from series aimed at men, and probably designed and drawn by men as well. the designs can be off-putting, but somehow it sells. a lot.
there are females with less exagerated figures, especially those drawn by females towards a female audience.

Millireena said:


Avoid the forums and turn of notifications is what I would've said, but it seems that you still want to look at notifs so unfortunately I'm not sure what else to suggest.
And yes I'm aware this is the internet, that's exactly why I said I shouldn't expect everyone to be mature on here.
You're constantly calling me a retard, but have you noticed how you look/act in all honesty (although I'm sure you're gonna say you don't care about how people see you/how you act)? But I must add, despite you're raging and swearing your head off, surprisingly you're not using all caps and there's no extreme amount of typos in your post like most people do. So for once I can actually get what someone is trying to say. So in a way I actually appreciate that! lol
I understand you're venting, but this isn't the way you should go about it. I really do feel bad for you (and that's not an insult) because I've gone through something similar a long time ago, I got so tired of seeing the same thing happen over and over again that I'd be a jerk to anyone who did what I hate, when honestly: They didn't deserve it. And always being angry and this angry in general must be terrible and tiring.

I for one, didn't know there were many of these topics, so you can't blame me for doing something I'm unaware of, I even acknowledged that the thread shouldn't stay up and I tried to stop posting and even delete it.
I'm surprised people can even say that I'm still being polite haha, passive aggressive at most.
Believe it or not it actually does, it makes the person realize that since no one is being violent in speech that they don't need to be, and it makes them lose interest in arguing because they can't spite the person they're arguing with etc. Of course that's not the case all the time, some people are butts in general.
I know my "politeness" is annoying(?) to you, but unfortunately I'm going to keep this attitude, because not only does it work wonders but I was raised to treat people how I want to be treated.
So again, I'm sorry for making a thread that upsets you, but in the end, you can't satisfy everyone, there's going to be that one person who disagrees with you etc. But I will acknowledge other people's feelings on these kind of topics, so I won't bring this up again unless someone else does.

I really do hope you feel better, even though I'm sure it may not be possible because of how the forums are. But still, I hope your days get better!

DreamingBeats said:
this was probably said over and over, but female characters with over-exagerated design are mostly from series aimed at men, and probably designed and drawn by men as well. the designs can be off-putting, but somehow it sells. a lot.
there are females with less exagerated figures, especially those drawn by females towards a female audience.

Millireena said:


I've mentioned in my previous (or first) posts why I don't like it, and that's because it's mostly unnecessarily done. And it makes me feel as though most of the time the female characters are just used to be sexual objects etc and that it's their only purpose. (Also, you don't have to have exaggerated features/sexualization just to make a show/character popular because sometimes it's liked for the wrong reasons) And I've mentioned in one of my posts that I've yet to see any sexualization of men in Anime (Thank you to the person who told me which ones did though, although I don't read Yaoi or watch sports anime (referring to Free!) so I wouldn't have known! So also thanks for pointing that out! And I don't approve of it either, the reason why you may see more people complaining about this happening to female character may be because that the majority of sexualization happens to women.
And also by saying this is doesn't mean I'm against there being attractive women, it's just the way that it's usually done that frustrates me.

I know that a lot of other shows have sexualization, and I dislike it just as much, but Anime in particular seems to carry this trait more than the regular shows I've watched and shows it more often. And to be honest, I thought it'd be fairly obvious why it'd upset some women.

And again, this is my opinion, and you have your opinion.

Soriki said:
Fuck your passive aggressive "I'm over you because I'm polite and don't say bad words" bullshit cunt
Kill yourself faggot
Get off my fucking board


If you admit that you're wrong, then stop trying to stay on a moral pedestal trying to look down at me, "swearing" I'm cringing really hard
Just a god damn word, it's all meaningless, but it sure does describe what I'm thinking
"Many of these topics" Can you fucking READ? I said there's many posts several times like I was a god damn broken record that were pure cancer/cringy/bad/trash/garbage/shit/repetitive/argument creating/shitstorm spawning/ETC
https://i.gyazo.com/bee9df367fe204286e6b4320b22f8567.png Every one of these fucking posts are bound to cause a shitstorm, at least they're not as bad as some hours ago/what it usually is like

The first one is yours and you already know how I feel about it
The 2nd one is bound to cause a shitstorm
3rd is a god damn memepost that some people were retarded/ignorant enough to take it seriously/respond seriously, like what the FUCK?
4TH ACTUALLY SEEMS DECENTLY INTERESTING FOR ONCE IN POPULAR POSTS
And the 5th at first glance seems not to cause a shitstorm, but if you think about it for a second, it GOD DAMN WILL, and it probably DID

Read please, the politeness isn't annoying, I clearly expressed my feel towards shitting on you is a half hate half feel bad thing, at the politeness isn't helping on the "feel bad site" a.k.a it makes it harder for me to antagonize/demonize/shit on you for being a god damn retard, which usually isn't enough to trigger me, but the egotistical passive aggressiveness moral pedestialing yourself is REALLY TRIGGERING ME/SETTING ME ON FIRE/LIGHTING THE TORCH

HAH, these forums being cancer or not most of the time are merely just a few decimals 0.00001, a little rock being thrown into a pool level of adding to my non-clinical depression, wish to die but respawn/not be awake for a while so I can forget about everything, anger at myself, ETC, psychiatric level of bullshit going in my head :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

But they sure would fucking help me feel a bit better if they were amazingly good and the majority of people was amazing and you'd see barely any shit ever, now that would help me restore hope in people at least a little bit every time I came on

Tip for you: Don't bring on topics you haven't researched/aren't knowledgeable on/don't know much about/haven't talked to enough knowledgeable people about/etc, unless you're asking for help/to get educated, and you have make it SUPER OBVIOUS

Soriki said:


And it's really cringy when they get triggered, especially with what happened with Xenoblade Chronicles 2

Like, wtf are you even on about to be honest, you must've watched jack shit Anime, if exactly ALL Anime you've completed are actually counted in your profile, than you need to watch more, or look at what's on your god damn screen
Cause every time I jack off to Ecchi shit, there's usually a personality of some sort, a interesting/entertaining thing to go with it

To Love Ru has got comedy going for it, has the alien shit going for it, etc, and it's EXTREMELY LEWD

No girls would be obsessed over K-Pop if it was just a bunch of 300 pounder, no muscle fatasses on stage singing terrible songs

It is like because 1; Their looks
2; Because of how they sing, their personality, etc
BUT ESSENTIALLY, THEY'RE PRETTY BOYS, AND THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT

Thank god at least Koreans have some taste, America/The US has jack shit taste, Justin cuck/Bieber is NOT good looking at all, he looks like trailer park trash without all the makeup, lighting, etc, and even with it all, still looks garbage compared to KPOP boys, it just shows how fucking low the standards of the U.S are

Exten37 said:
Maybe just stop posting until you're at least somewhat mentally stable. I don't think viciously attacking someone who is being nice to you is going to help you.

Millireena said:


(I don't use swear words because I find that it looks and sounds trashy to let you know)
Gee whiz, good sir/madam (whichever you are). I used to have sympathy for you but there's a difference between having annoyance and having anger issues, and you're just over the top.
I'm not gonna post another long message because honestly I'm watching a movie right now and I'm pretty lazy and it seems like nothing gets through to you so I'll say this: You say how tired you are of seeing these posts or threads etc, you say you hate when people do this and that or this, but you refuse to do anything to avoid it. So as much as I hate to say this because it's annoying, you're gonna have to deal with it, or leave.

You obviously have a lot of ill feelings about this place so just leave? But you refuse to, so you honestly have no reason to complain then if you don't/won't take any action to make yourself feel better etc. So you have no one to blame but yourself.
Now I'm going to stop posting now, you can keep raging or whatever.
I'm glad I'm worth wasting your time on though. (￣ω￣)

Millireena said:


Didn't see this post so gonna respond now.
You can't really go off of what's on my watch list atm, I'm still adding to it because like I've mentioned before *sigh* I used to have an account on here 3 years ago but I lost it's PW and lost access to the email I used to make it. So I made this account and again, me being lazy, I haven't added everything I've completed to my watch(ed) list yet but I plan to because I've been watching a lot of anime that I need to keep track of.