| Granted, not all anime feature these kind of characters but a lot do. This was exactly the reason why I hesitated to start watching Anime, because there was always this female character (be it young or old etc, and may I add, it's disgusting to sexualize young girls) that was sexualized in a way, or whom would have this moment where their breasts would unrealistically bounce. I honestly don't want to start any arguments (and if you want to start one then make it logical, don't just rear off to using foul language just because you disagree with me. And tell me the reason why you disagree with me and not just because you may be a pervert/don't care how women are portrayed) But alas, everyone is allowed to have their own opinion. And before anything happens, don't go calling me a feminist just because I find something wrong in the way women are portrayed. I just want to know if anyone shares this frustration with me because how you always tend to see female characters in anime with exaggerated sized breasts, underwear shots, wears stuff that show a ton of cleavage etc, or those eyeroll moments when a girl falls on top of a guy and her chest is in his face or something. It makes me wonder if some people actually only see them good to be featured for only these reasons? It's honestly discouraging. But at the same time, some women are to blame for this, constantly flaunting their bodies and such. But I will say, It makes me very happy whenever I see a woman who aren't displayed like this. I like seeing strong, smart, cool, modest etc female MCs/side characters. I want people to like female anime characters for other reasons besides the fact that they shove their chests in your face. I apologize for the rant. I'm glad I was able to steam and let out my frustrations. D: Thanks for actually reading this far! |
| Then my friend, we are in the minority, and most viewers mainly care about the fan service. Most anime fans are male, and most of them are in their teens, and most of them have hormones (and most are attracted to girls). It is the perfect thing to attract that demographic. |
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| People like boobs. I do too but not so much in my anime. The exaggerated features are essential to animation in order to accentuate motion, impact or just to make characters distinguishable since they don't have the amount of details and physiognomy real persons do. Princess Tutu, Juuni Kokuki, Planetes, Seirei no Moribito, Uchouten Kazoku, Ergo Proxy. I honestly don't want to start any arguments Too late, you attacked fanservice on MAL with an account created like 10 days ago and this is is your first message: get ready to be lynched.Oh wait... But at the same time, some women are to blame for this, constantly flaunting their bodies and such.  |
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| Why are you asking this on anime site ? And why are you asking this the anime itself ? It's like asking why is water wet. |
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| Dude, no one cares. Let us enjoy our lolis, ass and titties. |
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| It appeals to the demographic, simple. I for one don't really enjoy excessive amounts of ass or tits but I don't mind it in general. |
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| >most anime watcher is male, so it is normale to more cater towards them too >fanservice does sale, but not a solely factor >it can be ads for their lewd merchendise >watch better anime |
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Millireena said: Granted, not all anime feature these kind of characters but a lot do. This was exactly the reason why I hesitated to start watching Anime, because there was always this female character (be it young or old etc, and may I add, it's disgusting to sexualize young girls) that was sexualized in a way, or whom would have this moment where their breasts would unrealistically bounce. I honestly don't want to start any arguments (and if you want to start one then make it logical, don't just rear off to using foul language just because you disagree with me. And tell me the reason why you disagree with me and not just because you may be a pervert/don't care how women are portrayed) But alas, everyone is allowed to have their own opinion. And before anything happens, don't go calling me a feminist just because I find something wrong in the way women are portrayed. I just want to know if anyone shares this frustration with me because how you always tend to see female characters in anime with exaggerated sized breasts, underwear shots, wears stuff that show a ton of cleavage etc, or those eyeroll moments when a girl falls on top of a guy and her chest is in his face or something. It makes me wonder if some people actually only see them good to be featured for only these reasons? It's honestly discouraging. But at the same time, some women are to blame for this, constantly flaunting their bodies and such. But I will say, It makes me very happy whenever I see a woman who aren't displayed like this. I like seeing strong, smart, cool, modest etc female MCs/side characters. I want people to like female anime characters for other reasons besides the fact that they shove their chests in your face. I apologize for the rant. I'm glad I was able to steam and let out my frustrations. D: Thanks for actually reading this far! You should never watch To Love-Ru Darkness. I'm ok with some level of fanservice, but Yuuki Rito makes it a job in itself. |
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| I don't mind anime characters be sexualized, because I like sexualized things, I won't complain about men or women or children being sexy in anime, but I'm not a big fan of exaggerated boobs too. However, I don't think exaggerated features are very prevalent in anime, this problem is much more serious in hentai. |
| because it brings views and money and people like it. duh. |
| Male characters are getting more and more pretty and muscular recently too, so that's not just a women thing anymore. Men are now victims of sexualization in anime too XD. But again, that's never a bad thing for anime characters being hot. Men have To-love ru, and so women should have Free! . That's how I think about this issue. I understand how people are not comfortable with sexuality in the form of drawing, but once you get used to it, they can are pretty good~ |
| I don't think there's an anime with ugly fat womyn fitting for your taste, OP. |
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Millireena said: Granted, not all anime feature these kind of characters but a lot do. This was exactly the reason why I hesitated to start watching Anime, because there was always this female character (be it young or old etc, and may I add, it's disgusting to sexualize young girls) that was sexualized in a way, or whom would have this moment where their breasts would unrealistically bounce. I honestly don't want to start any arguments (and if you want to start one then make it logical, don't just rear off to using foul language just because you disagree with me. And tell me the reason why you disagree with me and not just because you may be a pervert/don't care how women are portrayed) But alas, everyone is allowed to have their own opinion. And before anything happens, don't go calling me a feminist just because I find something wrong in the way women are portrayed. I just want to know if anyone shares this frustration with me because how you always tend to see female characters in anime with exaggerated sized breasts, underwear shots, wears stuff that show a ton of cleavage etc, or those eyeroll moments when a girl falls on top of a guy and her chest is in his face or something. It makes me wonder if some people actually only see them good to be featured for only these reasons? It's honestly discouraging. But at the same time, some women are to blame for this, constantly flaunting their bodies and such. But I will say, It makes me very happy whenever I see a woman who aren't displayed like this. I like seeing strong, smart, cool, modest etc female MCs/side characters. I want people to like female anime characters for other reasons besides the fact that they shove their chests in your face. I apologize for the rant. I'm glad I was able to steam and let out my frustrations. D: Thanks for actually reading this far! That type of character is really only present in niche ecchi anime, and sprinkled across other anime. I would argue that a female character that is in control of her and in some cases others sexuality. Can represent her confidence/badassery. |
| That sort of thing is more normalized and accepted in Japan. Most anime with varying degrees of fanservice also air during prime time television there, slightly censored or otherwise, while those kinds of shows would never air outside of something like Adult Swim in the west. That being said, we have been sensitized to having a natural aversion to such things as westerners, especially if you're female. It's not your fault you don't approve of it, it's the fault of the culture and family that brought you up. Most anime even if they're not ecchi will have large breasted women and overly short skirts, perfect hourglass bodies, etc. If you can't handle the fact that a female cartoon character is allowed to be attractive and doesn't have to align to things like modesty, maybe anime in general isn't for you. |
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| It's just a trope used to entertain the male audience. You usually see things like this in shounen and harem anime. You need to check out the shoujo genre because since the target audience are young girls, the women are not sexualized at all (from what I've seen). And not all shoujo are childish, so dont let the genre deter you. I recommend Princess Tutu and Full Moon wo Sagashite. Anime is great, and it's good you know what you dont like. You just gotta look for options without the fanservice bits is all. |
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| Well most Anime are catered towards guys. And Guys are well.... guys. And Guys do like to see Sexy girls/Women. That is just how guys are (I am a guy to. Plus this does not go for all guys). Just look at shows aimed towards girls, they (Mainly Shoujo romance and reverse harems) mostly feature Handsome men. Plus a lot of Female characters are being liked for their personality already. |
| Japan loves their fanservice, that's why. |
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| Not only female characters get sexualized in anime. Have you heard of Free! ? Or Yuri on ice? Or all reverse harems? Guys get sexualized all the time in those types of anime. I prefer to watch an anime that treats its female characters respectfully. However, if an anime is ecchi but it has a lot of things I like (for example Kiddy Grade) I forgive it. There's a difference where female characters while being sexualized still have agency like in Black Laggon, Hellsing, Kill la Kill etc and where they have less agency and are used only for eye candy like in Highschool of the Dead, High School DxD etc. |
| You should perhaps watch anime that isen't aimed at horny teens ? There are plenty of anime without sexualized characters. |
| There's nothing wrong with real men and women being sexualized much less anime men and women, sexuality is a natural part of life and perfectly healthy especially when you compare it to all the violence in anime. If you can handle someone getting killed in an anime which happens even in children's anime then you should be able to handle a cute girl wearing a bikini or a bit of side boob. |
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| Well this kinda expected in Japan i guess. I mean anime isn't the only media does this some games from Japan does this by having the girls have their clothes ripped off like toliet paper. |
| I never quite understood sexualised anime characters on a personal level. Yet I understand why it's so popular.And I certainly don't like exaggerated physical features on anime characters. Case in point, boobs. Most the time it's pretty flat or just grotesquely cowtits with not much in between and it's kinda gross . |
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| I agreeee,i dislike fan service quite A LOT. It makes the anime look stupid and silly as hell ^_^ |
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| its part of media, close yourself in a dark cave without tv, magazines and internet if don't wanna see anything sexualized |
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Millireena said: Granted, not all anime feature these kind of characters but a lot do. This was exactly the reason why I hesitated to start watching Anime, because there was always this female character (be it young or old etc, and may I add, it's disgusting to sexualize young girls) that was sexualized in a way, or whom would have this moment where their breasts would unrealistically bounce. I honestly don't want to start any arguments (and if you want to start one then make it logical, don't just rear off to using foul language just because you disagree with me. And tell me the reason why you disagree with me and not just because you may be a pervert/don't care how women are portrayed) But alas, everyone is allowed to have their own opinion. And before anything happens, don't go calling me a feminist just because I find something wrong in the way women are portrayed. I just want to know if anyone shares this frustration with me because how you always tend to see female characters in anime with exaggerated sized breasts, underwear shots, wears stuff that show a ton of cleavage etc, or those eyeroll moments when a girl falls on top of a guy and her chest is in his face or something. It makes me wonder if some people actually only see them good to be featured for only these reasons? It's honestly discouraging. But at the same time, some women are to blame for this, constantly flaunting their bodies and such. But I will say, It makes me very happy whenever I see a woman who aren't displayed like this. I like seeing strong, smart, cool, modest etc female MCs/side characters. I want people to like female anime characters for other reasons besides the fact that they shove their chests in your face. I apologize for the rant. I'm glad I was able to steam and let out my frustrations. D: Thanks for actually reading this far! Preach!!!!! Well to each their own but yeah, I'm 100% agree with you... People can watch their anime for whatever reason, people can like a character for whatever reason... but it's just sad that so many female characters portrayed like that and most male watchers only care about the hotness of them instead of the character itself. And when it's female turns to oggle and sexualizing male characters, they treat us like we're the worst thing ever that it's an abomination while they do it themselves all the damn time. They bash anime featuring sexualized males like it's the worst thing ever but when it's female that's being sexualized in anime then it's okay. Such hypocrisy. Tbh I don't really care about such things. They will continue to produce more anime with sexualized female chars and it will continue to be that way. And I don't have problem with males that like it. The only thing I hate about all this is the hypocrites. |
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| People like seeing attractive characters sexualized, and in spite of what AD likes to say, it's not some kind of magic money printing machine and that is the only reason it ever exists ever, there are also people who genuinely want to create this kind of thing and actually want that to be a part of their product. People like sexy things. Females like things they find sexy too, it's not like they're inherently asexual because they don't have a dick, and there are anime that offer some stuff up that alley as far as I know. Millireena said: Granted, not all anime feature these kind of characters but a lot do. This was exactly the reason why I hesitated to start watching Anime, because there was always this female character (be it young or old etc, and may I add, it's disgusting to sexualize young girls) that was sexualized in a way, or whom would have this moment where their breasts would unrealistically bounce. this is just some talk about how you find sexualization of female characters offputting without saying much else I am not an inquisitor trying to force everybody into appreciating panty shots and anime tits so I do care if you like it or not if you're not going to really talk about what your reasoning for being against it is, so moving on Millireena said: I honestly don't want to start any arguments (and if you want to start one then make it logical, don't just rear off to using foul language just because you disagree with me. And tell me the reason why you disagree with me and not just because you may be a pervert/don't care how women are portrayed) But alas, everyone is allowed to have their own opinion. "I don't want to start any arguments, please don't insult me." If you actually talked about something meaty and substantial in this thread this wouldn't be egregious in the slightest, but you do nothing of the sort so now it's just a speed bump in reading your thread. The only remotely interesting thing about your entire thread here is in this paragraph at the same time, though - "And tell me the reason why you disagree with me and not just because you may be a pervert/don't care how women are portrayed." That last part is completely linking your issue here to being a matter of you having a belief that sexualization of female characters being a disrespectful representation of females, is it not? Why is having sexy woman having their sexual assets portrayed in a way that emphasizes that disrespectful to women? Do you think of women as a collective hive mind where fictional characters are meant to stand for everybody with a vagina rather than just, y'know, viewing them as their own characters, so therefore having one sexualized female character who is treated more as a sex object is spitting in the face of people with pussies the world over? What is the issue here, other than your extremist interpretations of the circumstances you're taking issue with, involving mitigating every aspect of every female character being sexualized aside from the fact that their tits bounce sometimes? Millireena said: And before anything happens, don't go calling me a feminist just because I find something wrong in the way women are portrayed. I just want to know if anyone shares this frustration with me because how you always tend to see female characters in anime with exaggerated sized breasts, underwear shots, wears stuff that show a ton of cleavage etc, or those eyeroll moments when a girl falls on top of a guy and her chest is in his face or something. Pointless addition. Literally nothing of value there, just saying something you basically said above and not to think of you as a feminist for your central issue and namedropping some types of fanservice. Mooooooving right along. Millireena said: It makes me wonder if some people actually only see them good to be featured for only these reasons? It's honestly discouraging. But at the same time, some women are to blame for this, constantly flaunting their bodies and such. Dumb generalizing speculation followed by a dumb sentiment (yes, I'm sure that if women who flaunted their sex appeal went away in real life, people would stop sexualizing female anime characters, no really, that's how it works, gg no re) so I'm just going to move on. I do somewhat feel like a world run by you would be like the one portrayed in Shimoneta, though, to be honest. Millireena said: But I will say, It makes me very happy whenever I see a woman who aren't displayed like this. I like seeing strong, smart, cool, modest etc female MCs/side characters. I want people to like female anime characters for other reasons besides the fact that they shove their chests in your face. Cool. I like sexualization and ecchi and I like female characters for their personality too. It's not like it has to be one or the other. You can do both at the same time, you can do one or the other, whatever makes the character more appealing to you. There's characters I don't find well-sexualized or aren't sexualized at all and I like them well enough because of their characterization, just like there are characters who I like because I find them very physically attractive and the series they're in accentuates that well. There is nothing wrong with finding a character sexy, and there is nothing wrong with a series making use of a character's sex appeal. If you think a character being sexualized makes her a lesser character by default, then the problem lies with you for mitigating everything about her personality and characterization in favor of a few scenes, and that's entirely separate from a character having little going on for her aside from her sex appeal,. When you're placing it in a broad, all-encompassing scale like your thread here is doing, then they're most definitely accounted for. You and people like you would be the ones ignoring characterization in favor of sexualization more than anybody else in this situation. Millireena said: I apologize for the rant. I'm glad I was able to steam and let out my frustrations. D: Thanks for actually reading this far! You're welcome. Now can I have the time I spent reading and writing a response to this thread back, so that way I can put it towards something that isn't completely wasting my time? |
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| It's hard to tell which anime you're referring to since your completed list mostly has either shoujo or anime with a lot of bishies. You can't make the fanservice heavy shows go away, just like mecha haters can't make the mecha genre go away. The best thing you can do is watch shows that have little or no fanservice. If you're worried that men think less of women as people because of the type of anime they watch, then that really depends on the guy. |
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| You do realize some sexualization fits the theme (Senran Kagura or Queens Blade, well pretty much anything loosely related to QB applies as well), speaking of SK, I wish there was some news about the sequel. |
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| I don't see the problem. Whats wrong with hot anime girls??? |
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| Pandering kid, pandering. I... guess I agree with you? I mean that (unnecesary fanservice, nudity) was definitely one of the reasons I hesitated to start watching anime, maybe the reason SnK is my favorite too, no fanservice or nothing of the sort. But at the same time, I kind of agree with Manaban too, if something has fanservice or overtly sexualized characters, don't watch it. Maybe you're pissed because you think certain shows/characters would do a lot better without the sexualized stuff, and I'm with you there, but, well, anime is anime, you can't help it. |
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| I like to see strong women as much as I like to see strong men (as long as it doesn't seem weird in their story and is played well enough). Miss Vincent from the Gunsmith Cats manga is depicted in a sexy/sexualized way, sometimes with too heavy/strong innuendo, as expected from Sonoda (the guy created a "non-loli loli character" who has sexual intercourses for example for the same series). But it usually doesn't distract me from the action on the page, because that's not what I am looking for in the books. Also, part of the problem is that you are one of the people who consider female breasts to be a sexual object. Deknijff said: Man people really like to complain about that bounce thing. I will never understand how some people dare reduce Gunbuster to that "special effect". (or reduce Gainax's role in animation to "people who made this thing popular") |
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| Exaggeration is one of the prime attributes of animation and comics and it can be applied in all kinds of ways so naturally it is also applied to sexuality. Also you're probably watching the wrong shows based on listing a bunch of harem tropes as your main argument. There's literally hundreds of shows and movies that I've seen that don't have a lot of fanservice and even more that handle it in a way where it doesn't take centerstage and doesn't come at a cost to their personality and integrity. So yeah, stop watching ecchi comedies or harems and you won't encounter guys falling on girls tits or pantyshots very much at all. Will you still see some characters with sex appeal, big breasts and sexy outfits? Yeah because they do exist in rl too so there's no reason they shouldn't exist in fiction. |
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Millireena said: Man people really like to complain about that bounce thing.Granted, not all anime feature these kind of characters but a lot do. This was exactly the reason why I hesitated to start watching Anime, because there was always this female character (be it young or old etc, and may I add, it's disgusting to sexualize young girls) that was sexualized in a way, or whom would have this moment where their breasts would unrealistically bounce. Millireena said: Well if its a matter of having a problem of how women are portrayed why is it just the sex thing you’re talking about. What about the fact some women are portrayed as crazy And before anything happens, don't go calling me a feminist just because I find something wrong in the way women are portrayed. I just want to know if anyone shares this frustration with me because how you always tend to see female characters in anime with exaggerated sized breasts, underwear shots, wears stuff that show a ton of cleavage etc, or those eyeroll moments when a girl falls on top of a guy and her chest is in his face or something.    What about the fact some girls are portrayed as super weebs    Millireena said: from my experience its mostly those who don’t like ecchi or harems who devolve characters to only sex objects. Fans of these kinds of shows usually don’t do thisIt makes me wonder if some people actually only see them good to be featured for only these reasons? Millireena said: Women are to be blamed for nothing as this isn’t a problemIt's honestly discouraging. But at the same time, some women are to blame for this, constantly flaunting their bodies and such. Millireena said: Females can basically have all these traits while being sexualised and sexy. So this is a weird thing to say. What about women who are none of these things then and aren’t sexualised in your opinion?But I will say, It makes me very happy whenever I see a woman who aren't displayed like this. I like seeing strong, smart, cool, modest etc female MCs/side characters. I want people to like female anime characters for other reasons besides the fact that they shove their chests in your face. |
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Rei366 said: people are just really drawn towards boobs I guess Deknijff said: I will never understand how some people dare reduce Gunbuster to that "special effect". (or reduce Gainax's role in animation to "people who made this thing popular")Man people really like to complain about that bounce thing. |
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| I don't see the problem with artificially created fictional things being sexualized, they're not people you know. Plus you act like it's just women they're doing it to. There's just as much shirtless dudes being sexualized for the lady viewers out there too. |
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| And just to make things clear. I'm not saying that female anime characters can't be attractive, nor am I saying that they can't have large breasts/butts (because women irl can have that too) it's the way it's done that really gets me honestly. Especially how every part of their body is skinny or whatever but when you look at the bust it's as big as the moon. And I'm not targeting a certain anime, I've always noticed this when I watched most animes, the reason why i'm now saying this now is because It's gotten to an extent where I want to vent out my frustration towards this. If it's in Ecchi/Harem/Hentai anime then I can understand completely why this is done, and I won't rant about it, because that's pretty much the sole purpose in them, in most. An example, K Project, practically all the female characters are only shown to have large breasts, constantly getting bust/underwear/and butt shots, I feel as though it's unnecessary. I would definitely resort to watching just shoujo's but I really like action anime (and that's normally the shounen's area), and I have yet to watch one without a whiny or poorly made female MC, and most tend to be about romance? And don't get me wrong! There's shoujo animes/mangas out there that are actually great with nice romance. But I have trouble finding them, so any recommendations would also be nice! ^^ |
Omkar_Nagwade said: Dude, no one cares. Let us enjoy our lolis, ass and titties. Not really a true statement. I care, so that counts as someone. I've seen people complain about the same thing I am complaining about right now as well, so they definitely count. Just because I'm opposing something that you like and a majority like as well doesn't mean no one cares about it. If you haven't seen anyone express their dislike for this then maybe you just aren't looking or they're avoiding posting about this because of some people who can't take other's disliking something they like themselves. You can go enjoy your lolis and such, I'm not stopping you, it's not like the entire anime producers are going to stop just because of my post. I'm just venting. |
zal said: I honestly don't want to start any arguments Too late, you attacked fanservice on MAL with an account created like 10 days ago and this is is your first message: get ready to be lynched.Oh actually, this wouldn't count as my first post, I originally made an account around 3 years ago but I forgot the password due to not using it (never found a reason to back then) and lost access to the email address I used to make it. I made a new one because I've been watching anime/reading manga a lot lately and I need to keep track of the ones I've already seen. And yea, unfortunately I know how users on the MAL forums can be, I've been just lurking some forums for maybe a few months now? |
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