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Oct 27, 2017 1:21 PM

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Ryuuseino said:
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Also if all town is gone now, it means your first win condition is lost. Which means you would have to survive which means there has to be a killing TPR out there, which means only the killiing TPR can win now? Ugh, I dont really get it...there's somewhere a logic gap here.

I think there are townies disguised as tprs, who doesn't know they're townies.


Would that make sense?

edit: the good tprs are townsided anyway
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Well, behaviorally he's starting to feel scum, like now that the true threats are gone(logic, suzu, shin), he's just throwing accusations for the sake of lynching them, main reason I feel this is bc his arguments feel very lackluster.
Mechanically not sure why he's concealing the protective ability, at this point of the game, it probably won't have much use, unless its a really OP one, and I do think there's a possibility of a evil tower, higher than that of a evil chariot, unless the chariot's a dullahan.
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Gwendolly said:
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I think there are townies disguised as tprs, who doesn't know they're townies.


Would that make sense?

edit: the good tprs are townsided anyway

Yes, but in a way since no one knows if they are disguised townies, no one would really care that much if they died, that carelessness would result in the town sideds killing their objective.
Oct 27, 2017 1:41 PM
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Gwendolly said:
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I think there are townies disguised as tprs, who doesn't know they're townies.


Would that make sense?

edit: the good tprs are townsided anyway

And they can't win if the true town dies, besides survival.
Oct 27, 2017 1:55 PM
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vote: Gwen
Might as well see if logic:s ability told the truth.
Oct 27, 2017 1:59 PM

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Ryuuseino said:
vote: Gwen
Might as well see if logic:s ability told the truth.


Gamethrower.
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Oct 27, 2017 2:03 PM

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edit: Is it just me or is the timer counting up? lol nvm looked at the old one

Well need to go to bed. I am pondering about Abu being a SK or some sort, but will explain more tomorrow. You guys figure out stuff in public or stay silent forever. Toodlez!
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Gwendolly said:
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vote: Gwen
Might as well see if logic:s ability told the truth.


Gamethrower.

Could anyone explain the term to me?
Oct 27, 2017 2:13 PM

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Gwendolly said:
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Flavour: The High Priestess/ La Papessa
Primary ability:
Day ability which is essentially jailor but the player gets to accept or deny during the night phase.
Immune to abilities and kills but are role-blocked too.
*X = 2.
*If mafia accept, I die.
*If they decline, I get their role flavour.

Secondary ability: Night ability that adds 2 anon votes to a player the following day phase.
*X = 2.
*This wasn't related to my primary at all.
*No longer relevant as it becomes disabled once the game hits 6 or less players.

Passive ability: Will flip town on lynch and be read as town when investigated.

Win con: Live to see town win con fulfilled or be the last player alive.


lol did you ever get to use your second ability? Oppinions on Abu? Do you believe his claim? The can't be removed thing sounds like it was only designed to counter you and that is what exactly happened. Too good to be true?


Nah... mine fucks him as it's technically a day ability maybe?
It's more down to the fact he didn't accept and whether or not to believe the shit about him just not popping in during the night phase due to not having any actives to deal with.
That or the fact he just declined so as to not be outed on the spot as Mafio..... though yeeaahhh, how many slots do we believe to actually be mafia instead of just evil TPR at this stage?
Oct 27, 2017 2:14 PM

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Labs said:
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lol did you ever get to use your second ability? Oppinions on Abu? Do you believe his claim? The can't be removed thing sounds like it was only designed to counter you and that is what exactly happened. Too good to be true?


Nah... mine fucks him as it's technically a day ability maybe?
It's more down to the fact he didn't accept and whether or not to believe the shit about him just not popping in during the night phase due to not having any actives to deal with.
That or the fact he just declined so as to not be outed on the spot as Mafio..... though yeeaahhh, how many slots do we believe to actually be mafia instead of just evil TPR at this stage?


As for using my second, nope..... I was guna wait it out and use it to BS my way around it being related to my first when I was guna use it on Ryuu, but that night got skipped and I couldn't submit shit.
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Gwendolly said:
edit: Is it just me or is the timer counting up? lol nvm looked at the old one

Well need to go to bed. I am pondering about Abu being a SK or some sort, but will explain more tomorrow. You guys figure out stuff in public or stay silent forever. Toodlez!


Buh-bhye~
Also not sure how much I'll be around later throughout the phase tbh.
Probably guna get shit-faced tonight and then I have heaps of DnD shit the following morning.
Oct 27, 2017 2:18 PM

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Gwendolly said:
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vote: Gwen
Might as well see if logic:s ability told the truth.


Gamethrower.


Is it throwing when you win doe....?
Oct 27, 2017 11:44 PM

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Gwendolly said:
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vote: Gwen
Might as well see if logic:s ability told the truth.


Gamethrower.

But hes evil... weren't you two suppossedly not on the same side...?
Is this confession of sharing the same side? ? ?
Oct 27, 2017 11:56 PM

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Labs said:
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Gamethrower.


Is it throwing when you win doe....?

Admitting labs/ryuu here or what? I'm puzzled.

From ur pov this is suppossed to be seen as gt, unless its the case mentioned above.

Or im missing something here... -_-
Oct 28, 2017 1:25 AM

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Kay change of plans; this is progressing very slowly so I'm going all or nothing

This is probably lylo for me so if there's any other evil tpr out there besides ryuu join me and win this together.
So I'm gonna properly claim. I am mafia and the only mafia. Have been going solo from the very start. Didn't lie about my two abilities and arcana tho. Which probably also means logics alignment checks were right of 4 evil players on the train. Calling abu and labs out.
If no one is able to side with me lynch me if you dare but there's probably another killing tpr out there since I believe my passive wouldn't just be for Shinichis ability lol (it's probably Abu) If Labs 2nd ability still works then it could make sense him being the only survivor. So I may already have 2 extra votes on me too.
Have to work all day today so gonna give you the whole day to think about it
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Oct 28, 2017 1:35 AM

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vote: gwen

welp
Oct 28, 2017 1:39 AM

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if its 3/2 evil/good then what games are we playing here... I knew it 5 and 8 smh
Oct 28, 2017 1:41 AM

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I hate it when i end game, it's embarrassment.

anyway gg scums.
Oct 28, 2017 1:49 AM

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Or all the 3 abu labs ryuu are evil tpr.
Oct 28, 2017 1:55 AM
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Gwen trying to frame me before she catches the rope, nice try

Change vote: Gwen

Idk if I should reveal my protective ability or not, hmm
Oct 28, 2017 2:00 AM
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I think this setup has 3 good TPR, 3 evil TPR, one neutral TPR, one mafia and the rest are town.
Neutral TPR: Shinichi
Good TPR: Abu, yurkin and Labs
Evil TPR: Ryuu, Qoco and unknown (I believe the unknown is already dead)
Mafia: Gwen
Town: logic, Suzune, RE, Soda, Astros (one of these players must be evil TPR)
Oct 28, 2017 2:01 AM
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@Gwendolly why wasn't there night kills since you're mafia?
Oct 28, 2017 2:04 AM
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I have a theory about logic's train check, if me and Labs are good TPR then we shouldn't count right? Which means the 4 scum logic detected must be: Shinichi, Ryuu, Gwen and either Soda or Suzune
Oct 28, 2017 2:07 AM
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Soda is more likely to have been evil TPR though, Suzune should be town after all, I can't see that skipping night ability coming from an anti town role.
Oct 28, 2017 2:10 AM
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We got this game, I believe
Oct 28, 2017 2:22 AM
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@Labs @yurkin I think after we lynch Gwen and Ryuu there will be a battle between the three of us, since all townies are dead and our first win con can't be achieved we're going to fight for our second win con.
Oct 28, 2017 2:28 AM

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Lol look at Abu popping up from his hiding corner
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Oct 28, 2017 2:29 AM

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AbuHumaid said:
@Labs @yurkin I think after we lynch Gwen and Ryuu there will be a battle between the three of us, since all townies are dead and our first win con can't be achieved we're going to fight for our second win con.
Your survivor wincon is invalid because there can't be a 1v1 unless you kill them
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Oct 28, 2017 2:52 AM

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AbuHumaid said:
I think this setup has 3 good TPR, 3 evil TPR, one neutral TPR, one mafia and the rest are town.
Neutral TPR: Shinichi
Good TPR: Abu, yurkin and Labs
Evil TPR: Ryuu, Qoco and unknown (I believe the unknown is already dead)
Mafia: Gwen
Town: logic, Suzune, RE, Soda, Astros (one of these players must be evil TPR)
Why is Qoco evil? Rather see him as neutral with having a goal only for himself
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Oct 28, 2017 3:01 AM

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AbuHumaid said:
@Gwendolly why wasn't there night kills since you're mafia?


?slip?
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Oct 28, 2017 3:12 AM
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Gwendolly said:
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I think this setup has 3 good TPR, 3 evil TPR, one neutral TPR, one mafia and the rest are town.
Neutral TPR: Shinichi
Good TPR: Abu, yurkin and Labs
Evil TPR: Ryuu, Qoco and unknown (I believe the unknown is already dead)
Mafia: Gwen
Town: logic, Suzune, RE, Soda, Astros (one of these players must be evil TPR)
Why is Qoco evil? Rather see him as neutral with having a goal only for himself
Jester is always evil, as long as Jester has the ability to kill a townie after his lynch then he's evil
read this: https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Jester
and read it all
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Gwendolly said:
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@Gwendolly why wasn't there night kills since you're mafia?


?slip?
What?
Oct 28, 2017 3:13 AM
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Gwendolly said:
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@Labs @yurkin I think after we lynch Gwen and Ryuu there will be a battle between the three of us, since all townies are dead and our first win con can't be achieved we're going to fight for our second win con.
Your survivor wincon is invalid because there can't be a 1v1 unless you kill them
You're mafia, anything you say is invalid.
Oct 28, 2017 3:17 AM
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be assured that me and Labs are good TPR since Gwen the mafia is desperate targeting us and is trying to stir confusion. If she's really trying to help then why doesn't she tell us why wasn't there night kills?
Oct 28, 2017 3:38 AM

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AbuHumaid said:
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Why is Qoco evil? Rather see him as neutral with having a goal only for himself
Jester is always evil, as long as Jester has the ability to kill a townie after his lynch then he's evil
read this: https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Jester
and read it all
This doesn't even say that a jester is able to do that...
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Oct 28, 2017 3:39 AM

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AbuHumaid said:
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?slip?
What?


How do you know about nightkills?
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Oct 28, 2017 3:41 AM

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AbuHumaid said:
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Your survivor wincon is invalid because there can't be a 1v1 unless you kill them
You're mafia, anything you say is invalid.
Look I'm mafia with three four tpr left I am just as clueless as all of you and trying to get behind it. The fact that you even haven't come to a sense how this game will continue without me is pretty much suspicious.
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Gwendolly said:
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What?


How do you know about nightkills?
Common knowledge? Mafia usually have a fictional kill each night
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Gwendolly said:
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Jester is always evil, as long as Jester has the ability to kill a townie after his lynch then he's evil
read this: https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Jester
and read it all
This doesn't even say that a jester is able to do that...
"Jester balances like a guaranteed mislynch. To balance this, sometimes when Jesters die the moderator enacts some pro-Town act to counterbalance this; for instance, the player who hammers a Jester wins a One-Shot Vig kill."
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AbuHumaid said:
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This doesn't even say that a jester is able to do that...
"Jester balances like a guaranteed mislynch. To balance this, sometimes when Jesters die the moderator enacts some pro-Town act to counterbalance this; for instance, the player who hammers a Jester wins a One-Shot Vig kill."
That's pro town (and not the jester himself gets to vigshot)
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Gwendolly said:
AbuHumaid said:
"Jester balances like a guaranteed mislynch. To balance this, sometimes when Jesters die the moderator enacts some pro-Town act to counterbalance this; for instance, the player who hammers a Jester wins a One-Shot Vig kill."
That's pro town (and not the jester himself gets to vigshot)
Oh my bad, I got it wrong

http://town-of-salem.wikia.com/wiki/Jester
"Alignment: Neutral Evil"
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AbuHumaid said:
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How do you know about nightkills?
Common knowledge? Mafia usually have a fictional kill each night
You seem rather surprised
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Oct 28, 2017 3:57 AM
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Gwendolly said:
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Common knowledge? Mafia usually have a fictional kill each night
You seem rather surprised
So..?
Oct 28, 2017 3:57 AM

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vote:Abu
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Oct 28, 2017 4:00 AM

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AbuHumaid said:
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You seem rather surprised
So..?
Which means you're not even thinking how the others could have died. Were they your kills?
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Gwendolly said:
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So..?
Which means you're not even thinking how the others could have died. Were they your kills?
logic died by Jester, Soda died by Shinichi, Astros I'm not sure. Why are you dodging my question though? Why wasn't there night kills?
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AbuHumaid said:
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Which means you're not even thinking how the others could have died. Were they your kills?
logic died by Jester, Soda died by Shinichi, Astros I'm not sure. Why are you dodging my question though? Why wasn't there night kills?
I tell you if you tell me <3
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We already cleared Jester -.-
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Oct 28, 2017 4:26 AM
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Gwendolly said:
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logic died by Jester, Soda died by Shinichi, Astros I'm not sure. Why are you dodging my question though? Why wasn't there night kills?
I tell you if you tell me <3
I'm clueless about the night kills, stop acting like I'm some info stronghold

And nope, I still believe Jester killed logic
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@Gwendolly Wait are you saying you killed logic?
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