Mini Game v5: Major Arcana Mafia | Game Over | Qoco and Town win

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Headed home from work doing some catch up then well try to back read D1 and D2, internet permitting.

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Oct 24, 2017 12:52 PM

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Qoco said:

Ryuuseino said:

Should have clarified, I meant flavour claim.

I'm Town? Tf is flavor.

Ugh... Card claim

Qoco said:

Ryuuseino said:

Should have clarified, I meant flavour claim.

I'm Town? Tf is flavor.

Ugh...
Card claim.

Oct 24, 2017 12:54 PM

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@Qoco you know what a full claim is. Why are you playing around right now. Full claim please, role, flavour, abilities. Please do it in one easy to understand post.

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Oct 24, 2017 12:55 PM

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Spaghettioli Townolli is my card. I'll get back to this later. I have a min. to clock in and I'm on my phonevLOL

Oct 24, 2017 12:59 PM

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you should have been lynched yesterday.
Someone saved your scummy hide.

Wouldn't that be Abu?

you're saying that Abu saved Gwen? Why do the three on that train feel suzune was a better lynch than gwen who claimed tpr and has a mafia alignment check in?

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explaining and claiming are not the same. It appears you were wrong I suzune. Do you have anything to say for yourself? Why wouldn't you lynch gwen? I thought I had lined that up nicely for us.

for those who forget I have a guilty cop check on Gwen.
My results said MAFIA

If Gwen flips town that would prove that the abilities have been bastardized.

Gwen had claimed tpr why would she suddenly flip town?

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Oct 24, 2017 1:07 PM

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@AbuHumaid your TPR claim is extremely late. I honestly thought it was a joke at first but it seems you're serious. Who did you use your ability on and when? What is your win condition?
@yurkin what is your win condition? I feel like skipping a night phase is not a mafia aligned role but I'm not understanding how your tpr? Maybe your pm was a lie?
@Labs your thoughts on all the other tpr claims? Yurkin/shin/abu all said basically what you said about flipping and investigating town. What do you make of it?

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Oct 24, 2017 1:08 PM

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Ryuuseino said:

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Are you saying that all of your abilities would lose their effectiveness if you out them? Can't you think of a single ability that doesn't? Like a passive or an ability that mafia can't do much about?

Nope, all of the abilities are something that can be avoided once aware.

um this isn't a full claim...

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Oct 24, 2017 1:19 PM

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logic340 said:

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Wouldn't that be Abu?

you're saying that Abu saved Gwen? Why do the three on that train feel suzune was a better lynch than gwen who claimed tpr and has a mafia alignment check in?

Ryuuseino said:

If Gwen flips town that would prove that the abilities have been bastardized.

Gwen had claimed tpr why would she suddenly flip town?

Meant if she flipped anything but mafia.

Oct 24, 2017 1:20 PM

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logic340 said:

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Nope, all of the abilities are something that can be avoided once aware.

um this isn't a full claim...

What else am I suppose to write down?

Oct 24, 2017 1:27 PM

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logic340 said:

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Wouldn't that be Abu?

you're saying that Abu saved Gwen? Why do the three on that train feel suzune was a better lynch than gwen who claimed tpr and has a mafia alignment check in?

After Gwen claimed, Abu moved on to suzu, so probably not. As for why I voted her, it was cause she was my 2nd strongest scum lean after shin.

Oct 24, 2017 1:32 PM

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Ryuuseino said:

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um this isn't a full claim...

What else am I suppose to write down?

in one post write the name of your role, your flavour name, abilities, ava who you used them on or if they were activated.

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Oct 24, 2017 1:35 PM

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Isn't role and flavour the same thing? What are the differences between them?

Oct 24, 2017 1:35 PM

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logic340 said:
Time for everyone to claim. Clearly...here is mine again.
Role: Judgement
Alignment: Town
Ability 1: Book of Revelation, check an eod train and see how many evil are on board. Used on RE's train. Results 4 evil.
Ability 2: Final Judgment, alignment check one player. Used on Gwendolly. Results mafia.

@Ryuuseino here is an example of what a full claim could look like.

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Oct 24, 2017 1:37 PM

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Ryuuseino said:
Isn't role and flavour the same thing? What are the differences between them?

I guess in this case they are but generally no they are not
E.G. Cop is a role with investigative abilities

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Oct 24, 2017 1:41 PM

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@Ryuuseino another example in little witch academia game my flavour was professor Croix my role was town aligned roleblocker

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Oct 24, 2017 1:42 PM

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Role: Hierophant
Alignment: Town
Ability 1: Holiness, immunity to night abilities, excluding night kills, passive.
Ability 2: Works in tandem with the 1st one, but since the 1st has proven faulty, I could still be night abilitied, so 2nd will remain secret.

Oct 24, 2017 1:44 PM

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logic340 said:
@Ryuuseino another example in little witch academia game my flavour was professor Croix my role was town aligned roleblocker

So when you say role, you mean power roles.

Oct 24, 2017 1:47 PM

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Ryuuseino said:

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@Ryuuseino another example in little witch academia game my flavour was professor Croix my role was town aligned roleblocker

So when you say role, you mean power roles.

generally speaking yes. But we have roles like mine that I assume would fall outside a specific role name. I'm a one shot sensor and one shot cop. But my PM doesn't say that.

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Oct 24, 2017 1:54 PM

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5 tpr claims is a bit much.
Someone in there is likely mafia.
@qoco and @Ryuuseino we're the only three who haven't claimed tpr. Is there mafia among them?

Ryuuseino said:
Role: Hierophant
Alignment: Town
Ability 1: Holiness, immunity to night abilities, excluding night kills, passive.
Ability 2: Works in tandem with the 1st one, but since the 1st has proven faulty, I could still be night abilitied, so 2nd will remain secret.

you do know if we lynch wrong today town loses? So keeping secrets may hurt us in the short term. Do what you think is best but there may not be a night phase if we don't lynch mafia today.

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Oct 24, 2017 1:56 PM

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I would like all tpr win conditions on the table.
@AbuHumaid, @Gwendolly, @Labs, @yurkin

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Oct 24, 2017 2:02 PM

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@Mishukax it's MALoween time again.
Thank you again for introducing me to mafia this time last year.
I do believe this is my 30th game (in total 28th on mal).

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Oct 24, 2017 2:05 PM

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logic340 said:
5 tpr claims is a bit much.
Someone in there is likely mafia.
@qoco and @Ryuuseino we're the only three who haven't claimed tpr. Is there mafia among them?

Ryuuseino said:
Role: Hierophant
Alignment: Town
Ability 1: Holiness, immunity to night abilities, excluding night kills, passive.
Ability 2: Works in tandem with the 1st one, but since the 1st has proven faulty, I could still be night abilitied, so 2nd will remain secret.

you do know if we lynch wrong today town loses? So keeping secrets may hurt us in the short term. Do what you think is best but there may not be a night phase if we don't lynch mafia today.

Ah, might as well, it wasn't that great anyway.
Ability 2: Divination, I will know the roles of those who night visited me, passive.
As confirmation, when suzu enchanted me I got a message of been visited by the Magician.

Oct 24, 2017 2:11 PM

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Ryuuseino said:

logic340 said:
5 tpr claims is a bit much.
Someone in there is likely mafia.
@qoco and @Ryuuseino we're the only three who haven't claimed tpr. Is there mafia among them?

you do know if we lynch wrong today town loses? So keeping secrets may hurt us in the short term. Do what you think is best but there may not be a night phase if we don't lynch mafia today.

Ah, might as well, it wasn't that great anyway.
Ability 2: Divination, I will know the roles of those who night visited me, passive.

damn, that was actually a really good role. A visit from labs lay but would have yielded much info. Sadly this could be basis aligned as they need role info as well as town. But I like your assumed honesty here. Thank you. With all these tpr claims I find it hard to believe they're all what they claim to be. They are lying or were lied to in their pm imo. Maybe bout all but at least one.
12-players I'm guessing
5 town
5 tpr
2-mafia
Seems really unbalanced.
Could 2 or 3 of those tpr's be town?
7 or 8 town
3 or 2 tpr
2 mafia
Seems more balanced

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Oct 24, 2017 2:13 PM

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I want another townie to tell me what our win-con in out role pm says.

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Oct 24, 2017 2:20 PM

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logic340 said:

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Ah, might as well, it wasn't that great anyway.
Ability 2: Divination, I will know the roles of those who night visited me, passive.

damn, that was actually a really good role. A visit from labs lay but would have yielded much info. Sadly this could be basis aligned as they need role info as well as town. But I like your assumed honesty here. Thank you. With all these tpr claims I find it hard to believe they're all what they claim to be. They are lying or were lied to in their pm imo. Maybe bout all but at least one.
12-players I'm guessing
5 town
5 tpr
2-mafia
Seems really unbalanced.
Could 2 or 3 of those tpr's be town?
7 or 8 town
3 or 2 tpr
2 mafia
Seems more balanced

I'm actually thinking that everyone is tpr, except 3 or 4 Town, with 2 or 3 mafia.

Oct 24, 2017 2:27 PM

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logic340 said:
I want another townie to tell me what our win-con in out role pm says.

If you're addressing me.
Win-con: win when all mafia dies.

Oct 24, 2017 2:57 PM

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Qoco said:

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If his goal is to see town win there must be scum too. Are you tpr?

At least I don't think so. My role says I'm Town, but who tf knows anymore.

Scared of your flip?

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Oct 24, 2017 3:05 PM

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Qoco said:

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Why regret something you havent done yet? We have still enough time to get something out of this. Let's pressure Qoco out.

vote change: Qoco

@logic340
Again what do you think of Qocos and Abus feud? Scum theatre? Feels forcefully hateful to me.

@AbuHumaid your thoughts on Qoco?

lmao thinking that you can pressure me. People just get headaches when they try.

Will not stop me :)

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Seeing that logic is the only one pushing on me so hard while everyone is just watching or following along since D1 makes me doubt if it's really scum doing that. I'm calling Abu/Ryuu/yurkin/Labs. Yurkin less because I'm not sure how a night skip will help mafia in any way lol

Lynch targets of mine today: Abu and Lambs after all, come at me! Ryuu should claim.

I'll vote Abu if you do,

If you think Abu is scum, what do you think his agenda is? Who is his scumbuddy or buddies?

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Please have internet on this side of the island today?

We should put together a list of claims.

kay, you start.

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@Gwendolly what side are you leaning on to?

My own?

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Oct 24, 2017 3:23 PM

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logic340 said:
@Mishukax it's MALoween time again.
Thank you again for introducing me to mafia this time last year.
I do believe this is my 30th game (in total 28th on mal).

Thank YOU for being a very active member of this humble club. Good going o/

Oct 24, 2017 3:23 PM

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Ryuuseino said:

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Oh and Qoco should claim too. See I sometimes even forget about Qoco. He has been too neutral in this game, always mentioning both possibilites and then disappearing and we keep letting him slide with that. We should be aware of him. I believe he once said something about being a God. He was important in the flavor story too. Don't ignore Qoco guys.

Could he be The World?

Thought the same when he said "god" lol

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Oct 24, 2017 3:25 PM

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Qoco said:
Spaghettioli Townolli is my card. I'll get back to this later. I have a min. to clock in and I'm on my phonevLOL

lol, I can see why you're all calling him a troll now

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Gwendolly said:

Qoco said:
Spaghettioli Townolli is my card. I'll get back to this later. I have a min. to clock in and I'm on my phonevLOL

lol, I can see why you're all calling him a troll now

Nah, I just don't know the fancy name rn. I need to go to my messages.

Oct 24, 2017 3:31 PM

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logic340 said:

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Wouldn't that be Abu?

you're saying that Abu saved Gwen? Why do the three on that train feel suzune was a better lynch than gwen who claimed tpr and has a mafia alignment check in?

Thing is because I'm still alive, I'll always be a Plan B if things dont work out. Abu was on Suzune the whole day so I dont know if he even anticipated Lambs jump.

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Oct 24, 2017 3:34 PM

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logic340 said:
I would like all tpr win conditions on the table.
@AbuHumaid, @Gwendolly, @Labs, @yurkin

You already know mine. Figure the rest out yourself.

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Oct 24, 2017 3:34 PM

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XXI - The World
Abilities: Benign = Innocent Townie
Almighty = Lynch proof and bullet proof

The gist of it. If you want more it has to wait. I'm on my break.

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logic340 said:
@Mishukax it's MALoween time again.
Thank you again for introducing me to mafia this time last year.
I do believe this is my 30th game (in total 28th on mal).

See? It's probably not even my tenth game <.<

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Gwendolly said:

logic340 said:
@Mishukax it's MALoween time again.
Thank you again for introducing me to mafia this time last year.
I do believe this is my 30th game (in total 28th on mal).

See? It's probably not even my tenth game <.<

You're so young. You have much to learn.

Oct 24, 2017 3:37 PM

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logic340 said:

logic340 said:
Time for everyone to claim. Clearly...here is mine again.
Role: Judgement
Alignment: Town
Ability 1: Book of Revelation, check an eod train and see how many evil are on board. Used on RE's train. Results 4 evil.
Ability 2: Final Judgment, alignment check one player. Used on Gwendolly. Results mafia.

@Ryuuseino here is an example of what a full claim could look like.

Ryuuseino said:
Role: Hierophant
Alignment: Town
Ability 1: Holiness, immunity to night abilities, excluding night kills, passive.
Ability 2: Works in tandem with the 1st one, but since the 1st has proven faulty, I could still be night abilitied, so 2nd will remain secret.

@Gwendolly here's the start of that list

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Oct 24, 2017 3:45 PM

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Qoco said:
XXI - The World
Abilities: Benign = Innocent Townie
Almighty = Lynch proof and bullet proof

The gist of it. If you want more it has to wait. I'm on my break.

If this is true then this makes survivor roles automatically invalid.

@Abuhumaid @Labs

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Oct 24, 2017 3:50 PM

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Gwendolly said:

Qoco said:
XXI - The World
Abilities: Benign = Innocent Townie
Almighty = Lynch proof and bullet proof

The gist of it. If you want more it has to wait. I'm on my break.

If this is true then this makes survivor roles automatically invalid.

@Abuhumaid @Labs

It seems true to me, so far. I got the Townie announcement and iirc a killed fail. Prolly on me LOL

Oct 24, 2017 3:53 PM

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logic340 said:

@Ryuuseino here is an example of what a full claim could look like.

Ryuuseino said:
Role: Hierophant
Alignment: Town
Ability 1: Holiness, immunity to night abilities, excluding night kills, passive.
Ability 2: Works in tandem with the 1st one, but since the 1st has proven faulty, I could still be night abilitied, so 2nd will remain secret.

@Gwendolly here's the start of that list

Role: Death (altri piani)
Alignment: Third Party
Passive Ability: Indomabile: Immune to nightkills
Win condition: not fulfilled yet

Passing it on to @AbuHumaid

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Gwendolly said:

Qoco said:
XXI - The World
Abilities: Benign = Innocent Townie
Almighty = Lynch proof and bullet proof

The gist of it. If you want more it has to wait. I'm on my break.

If this is true then this makes survivor roles automatically invalid.

@Abuhumaid @Labs

can you explain this a bit more? I feel it's possible they could have been lied to in their pm and are actually town but I want to hear you out. Also Abu's was late as hell and barebones it could be a lie made based off other claims. @AbuHumaid full claim or die!!

edit: deleted duplicate and fixed typos.

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logic340 said:

Gwendolly said:

If this is true then this makes survivor roles automatically invalid.

@Abuhumaid @Labs

can you explain this a bit more? I feel it's possible they could have been lied to in their pm and are actually town but I want to hear you out. Also Abu's, was late as he'll ace barebones it could be a lie made based off other claims. @AbuHumaid full claim or die!!

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I think everyone on this game is TPR, I'm TPR as well, my goal is to see town win or to be the last player alive

Labs said:

Assumed you would have gathered that based on suggestions on Ryuu, but yee essentially.
Win con: Mano D'aiuto
I have 2 potential win cons, either survive till the end..... which I don't even see how that'd work unless both factions kill eachother on the final night.
Otherwise I can win alongside town victory, I have to be alive for either sadly and can't win with Mafio.
^Also shown in primary ability which I'll cover in the next post.

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logic340 said:

@Ryuuseino here is an example of what a full claim could look like.

Ryuuseino said:
Role: Hierophant
Alignment: Town
Ability 1: Holiness, immunity to night abilities, excluding night kills, passive.
Ability 2: Works in tandem with the 1st one, but since the 1st has proven faulty, I could still be night abilitied, so 2nd will remain secret.

@Gwendolly here's the start of that list

Gwendolly said:
Role: Death (altri piani)
Alignment: Third Party
Passive Ability: Indomabile: Immune to nightkills
Win condition: not fulfilled yet

qoco said:
Qoco said:
XXI - The World
Abilities: Benign = Innocent Townie
Almighty = Lynch proof and bullet proof

The gist of it. If you want more it has to wait. I'm on my break.

Passing it on to @AbuHumaid, @yurkin and @Labs
edit: fixed bb code

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@Gwendolly how do you feel about lynching abu over labs?

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Oct 24, 2017 4:07 PM

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logic340 said:
@Gwendolly how do you feel about lynching abu over labs?

They are both equally scummy to me right now lol
Abus role feels more useless tho I think there is something more to it

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Gwendolly said:

logic340 said:
@Gwendolly how do you feel about lynching abu over labs?

They are both equally scummy to me right now lol
Abus role feels more useless tho I think there is something more to it

Was this a test question?

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Gwendolly said:

logic340 said:

can you explain this a bit more? I feel it's possible they could have been lied to in their pm and are actually town but I want to hear you out. Also Abu's, was late as he'll ace barebones it could be a lie made based off other claims. @AbuHumaid full claim or die!!

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I think everyone on this game is TPR, I'm TPR as well, my goal is to see town win or to be the last player alive

Labs said:

Assumed you would have gathered that based on suggestions on Ryuu, but yee essentially.
Win con: Mano D'aiuto
I have 2 potential win cons, either survive till the end..... which I don't even see how that'd work unless both factions kill eachother on the final night.
Otherwise I can win alongside town victory, I have to be alive for either sadly and can't win with Mafio.
^Also shown in primary ability which I'll cover in the next post.

ok so I think I get it now.
Since qoco cannot got they cannot be survivors.
Didn't Shinichi say something similar even he claimed tpr?

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Gwendolly said:

They are both equally scummy to me right now lol
Abus role feels more useless tho I think there is something more to it

Was this a test question?

no serious question..I'm really thinking that possibly labs was lied to in his role pm (about his alignment) if shinichi had a, similar win con to what labs and Abu are saying?

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