| Is this a remake of the original Saint Seiya series??? Wait. this is an ONA seris, just like Sailor Moon Crystal, that means it's gonna look horrible right? Please don't fuck this one up, Toei ;_; |
| I just hope it does not become "marvelyzed". |
| @Rafa-Dono Oh boy, I really don't want to see another classic franchise ruinend by CGI. :( |
rodolfoemiliano said: I just hope it does not become "marvelyzed". What exactly do you mean? |
JonasTheJay said: rodolfoemiliano said: I just hope it does not become "marvelyzed". What exactly do you mean? It looks like a bunch of Marvel heroes. Or DC, whatever. |
| Toei really likes to extort and destroy the reputation of it's old series. They have the budget to make something great, but instead... |
| I just hope they do things well, compared to BERSERK lol |
| just want continuatuion of godlike lost canvas |
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CG I've read enough. Nope. not gonna touch this one. |
| "Netflix" lol My curiosity is itching me. I'll try to watch a few episodes once it starts airing. Like the others members, I'm worried about the quality, since Toei lost its spark from the old days. I hope this will look good. But there's nothing about CGI on the synopsis. Did I miss something? EDIT: 12 episodes????????????? EDIT2: forget about the CG question. i misread the thread, my bad. |
| Salty meme woman and Touhou enthusiast. Don't hesitate to correct my posts, my english skills aren't the best. |
Rafa-Dono said: not really, the battle against hades top dogs are all pretty epic, esp against mephistoAre you serious? Are you sure? Well, I took the liberty of checking your manga list and The Lost Canvas isn't there. Believe me then: yes, those OVAs are awesome, as TLC is. UP TO THAT EXACT POINT. After that, it's one of the very worst manga I've ever read. Funny thing. The OVA ends in the middle of one of the manga chapters, in spite of having enough lenght to finish it and the train of thought. Almost as if on purpose... Actually I think it was. Maybe they read the next page and said: -NONONONONO!!! NOOOOOOO!!! I CAN'T ADAPT THAT!!! And after that, it only gets worse and worse and worse. And worse. My opinion, of course, many LOVE it anyways. I'll add as spoiler what exactly the turning point is: Know where those stairs Alone was climbing lead? and you shoudl quote when replying to someone |
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crabbystardust said: "Netflix" lol My curiosity is itching me. I'll try to watch a few episodes once it starts airing. EDIT: 12 episodes????????????? Well it's not the full series, only the first arc (galaxian tournament). |
JonasTheJay said: crabbystardust said: "Netflix" lol My curiosity is itching me. I'll try to watch a few episodes once it starts airing. EDIT: 12 episodes????????????? Well it's not the full series, only the first arc (galaxian tournament). I was told its Galaxian Wars arc AND Silver Saints! Edit: Also you guys should watch the cgi movie Legend of Sanctuary that should be kind of an example what to expect (minus deathmask... ewww) BUT I'M HYPE 2017 (or 2018) new saint seiya project! the cosmos never dies!!! |
| The director has a good roster of previous films/shows hes worked on but i fear he might think Saint seiya is another shonen and not understand it. Its been reported that the art style wont be the same as the manga or the classic anime, probably to fit their 3D but its worrysome. The 2014 reimagining movie had great visuals specially in the fights but it felt like power rangers with superpowers rather than something serious. Out of the 3 Saint Seiya projects Kurumada is only ''collaboratiing'' with Toei on the live action adaptation JonasTheJay said: crabbystardust said: "Netflix" lol My curiosity is itching me. I'll try to watch a few episodes once it starts airing. EDIT: 12 episodes????????????? Well it's not the full series, only the first arc (galaxian tournament). They also doing the silver saints arc so in 12 episodes they are skipping all the filler the original anime had. Not to say they were bad it just seems they want to get to the 12 temples fast if this project succeeds. |
| Why "remake", they're not remaking the first series, they're simply re-adapting a part of the manga that was in it. JonasTheJay said: 12 episodes????????????? Well it's not the full series, only the first arc (galaxian tournament). But between the interrupted tournament, the Fuji, the assasination order, and I guess up to Aiolia's arrival in Japan, let me doubt this will be enough. They'll probably skip a lot of infos (because that's what people want the less). Anyway, one thing is sure: it will be musically inferior to the first animation. Let's see if Shaka's intervention is kept this time (I don't know if you already compared the manga with the anime but the Shaka's sect excuse is such a lame excuse xD). Nobody mentioned the Clothes yet but I hope they'll be kept intact this time! Based on the poster, is it me or is Seiya already wearing the third form of Pegasus? And what with those long foot wings (can't compare with the manga, it's buried) ? Though, the 3DCGI movie already reimagined the designs in order to sell a new line of figurines/armors. So if BANDAI is still a producer or sponsor, I bet this will suffer the same fate: new designs for new figurines. @JonasTheJay Don't you know? The answer is BANDAI. The stages 1-2-3 of the Dragon and Pegasus and 1-2 of the other Clothes were'nt ideal for toy making (less cool? pieces like diadems too little, maybe) so they went for integral protections despite how illogical it is in terms of Saint ranking. By the way, you're talking a lot about it, but you're still stuck in both manga and animation? Too bad you can't read french, there are a few compressed archives out there of the full scanned fr.manga) edit @JonasTheJay I see. Well, you must know about the Crystal Saint then, pretty stupid addition (who kind of reduces the impact of some events in the Sanctuary) for example. I don't want to sound like I'm badmouthing the title, but most people LOVE the Lost Canvas anime simply because... it's good to look at. While Kurumada overrecycled most of his own ideas, Lost Canvas is the work of someone who couldn't stop making "hommages" to his author (like what you would call a "fangirl" on the Internet); not minding any inconsistency or whatever it could produce. The manga is a fairly good shônen nekketsu in itself (and some designs are pretty good) but it's quite long for a single war (it drags, a lot). And despite Teshirogi's far better drawing skills (compared to Kurumada), I couldn't help but feel like it felt the "emotion" that the original author was able to give to his manga (even the 80s/00s anime is good at that with its incredible soundtrack, especially in the anime-only second chapter). |
Rei_IIIAug 7, 2017 1:21 PM
Rei366 said: Why "remake", they're not remaking the first series, they're simply re-adapting a part of the manga that was in it. Nobody mentioned the Clothes yet but I hope they'll be kept intact this time! Based on the poster, is it me or is Seiya already wearing the third form of Pegasus? And what with those long foot wings (can't compare with the manga, it's buried) ? Though, the 3DCGI movie already reimagined the designs in order to sell a new line of figurines/armors. So if BANDAI is still a producer or sponsor, I bet this will suffer the same fate: new designs for new figurines. It would be really cool if they actually keep the cloth's evolution like in the manga. I still don't know why they skipped some of the forms in the anime. |
| Lost Canvas season 3 waiting room cmon guys its been 6 years already an somhow i havent give up yet |
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| I get a feeling Shun is going to be completely trashed as a character as he was in the Norse arc. He's the most powerful Saint he better stay that way. Though with that title I think it's just pandering to the South American Saint Seiya fans. I'll stick with the original. |
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Rei366 said: Why "remake", they're not remaking the first series, they're simply re-adapting a part of the manga that was in it. Don't you know? The answer is BANDAI. The stages 1-2-3 of the Dragon and Pegasus and 1-2 of the other Clothes were'nt ideal for toy making (less cool? pieces like diadems too little, maybe) so they went for integral protections despite how illogical it is in terms of Saint ranking. By the way, you're talking a lot about it, but you're still stuck in both manga and animation? Too bad you can't read french, there are a few compressed archives out there of the full scanned fr.manga) I haven't finished the series, but I read some articles online about some of the differences. I actually didn't notice on my own that the cloths look different in the anime and manga :D @silversaint Is Lost Canvas really that great? I read about half of the manga and I'm not really impressed at all so far. Most characters just die 3 chapters after they're introduced and there seems to be very plot progession. |
| Whelp, I'll go for it, CGI or not. The character designer has done seiya work in the past since as Canvas and Hades OVA (even Jojo Pt 4, Casshern sins, top o nerae), so there can be faith in that. JONAS: We like CANVAS because its hard-boiled. The deaths are sysytematic because Hades isn't no one to phuk with. |
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JonasTheJay said: @silversaint Is Lost Canvas really that great? I read about half of the manga and I'm not really impressed at all so far. Most characters just die 3 chapters after they're introduced and there seems to be very plot progession. i dont remember a single character that died 3 chapters after being introduced tbh, im quite sure that doesnt happen also it has some of my fav fights of the franchise... i didnt think it had little plot progression, the characters dont waste their time fighting against fodder trash (which is something i see on most action manga like Berserk, HxH, Jojo, the original Saint Seiya an others) most of the foes are serious business an are a genuine threat, i thought the plot advanced a bit too fast tbh but hey that my opinion |
silversaintAug 5, 2017 11:56 AM
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silversaint said: JonasTheJay said: @silversaint Is Lost Canvas really that great? I read about half of the manga and I'm not really impressed at all so far. Most characters just die 3 chapters after they're introduced and there seems to be very plot progession. i dont remember a single character that died 3 chapters after being introduced tbh, im quite sure that doesnt happen also it has some of my fav fights of the franchise... i didnt think it had little plot progression, the characters dont waste their time fighting against fodder trash (which is something i see on most action manga like Berserk, HxH, Jojo, the original Saint Seiya an others) most of the foes are serious business an are a genuine threat, i thought the plot advanced a bit too fast tbh but hey that my opinion I clearly remember lots of characters dying right after they were introduced, for example |
| Odd that this got a space in the database and Castlevania didn't... |
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| Since they have Netflix on their side I think the budget will be a decent amount |
| "Because people don't have wings.. We look for ways to fly." |
| @Rafa-dono I think Brazil and the USAs have to thank the french adaptation for this title and a good deal of the censorship/localization ideas. Sorry about it. ^^" edit @Rafa-Dono Knights of the Zodiac, the US show in parts based on the french version by the DIC company, started in the late 2000 I think. (In France, we got the first episode the 6th April 1988.) I'm sure your opening wasn't that bad ;) : @JonasTheJay Not a fan but I will plaid for the Lost Canvas here: it was supposed to tell a war whose resolution was already known through the orignial manga: Hades and his army of Specters sealed off, the Balance and the Aries Gold Saints being the only Saints (out of all the ones working in this period) surviving the holy war. And Tenma, a Pegasus Saint looking like Seiya (possibly a past life?) had to be the one beating Hades. The mangaka had to work with this premise (and also felt the need to emulate the original manga a bit too much at times, being a hardcore St Seiya fan). FuredeRiko said: It could STILL be amazing, right? So don't rule this one out just yet... I think we all remember how good the first salve of Hades looked like, then how bad the last ones were. And this will be a Toei Animation ONA series based on an old manga, it kinds of call back memories of Sailor Moon Crystal and St Seiya Ôgon no Tamashi. |
Rei_IIIAug 7, 2017 1:43 PM
| @Rafa-dono o_O OK then... I won't talk about how it was better to have the bronze clothes first look like they did in the manga then slowly evolving toward their scifi style. {shout: The design of clothes was always goooooood} XD I found that the numbers of semi-gods or whatever became quite ridiculous in The Lost Canvas. Already in the original, I thought that 108 Specters was far too much (at least, we didng't get to experience them all, and most were treated as simple grunts). I don't really remember all the piled up corpses, just that the manga went on with it for far too long. The only ennemy I really remember was the bird thing, Kagaho, and it is because I highly disliked the concept (a villain acting like a hero, always defeated, always coming back) @FuredeRiko You didn't notice anything becoming bad after the Sanctuary OAVs of Hades? o_O Visually, both 2nd and 3rd Hades OAVs series seemed to be behind despite the age gap. The overall direction wasn't that great either. I thought I was looking at mere TV series. |
Rei_IIIAug 11, 2017 12:53 AM
JonasTheJay said: If the CGI is as good as Kado, it will be great(as long as the script isn't as bad as Kado)@Rafa-Dono Oh boy, I really don't want to see another classic franchise ruinend by CGI. :( |
| Sup... |
where is your source for this? and i expect this will be a complete adaptation of the manga since i heard Netflix likes to do sequels and complete stories anyway |
Only the Galaxian Wars/Silver Saints expeditions are programmed. They will probably produce more if the internet series meets what they consider a satisfying audience. |
| It may not be bad, remember Devilman Crybaby it was pretty good with all that CGI and stuff, so we still have some hope |
Tekakurika said: It may not be bad, remember Devilman Crybaby it was pretty good with all that CGI and stuff, so we still have some hope Devilman had CGI? I didn't even notice that. |
AshitaNoJonas said: Tekakurika said: It may not be bad, remember Devilman Crybaby it was pretty good with all that CGI and stuff, so we still have some hope Devilman had CGI? I didn't even notice that. Honestly I don't remember :') but I know it was good, really good |
| After the french dub's error (whose name has also become the US one), Netflix went further and turned Shun into the maskless (energetic?) female Saint Shaun: https://youtu.be/RNA4E3AuGIk (it might be a fun children TV cartoon, but I don't see myself watching a 2nd adaptation butchering the beginning again without the musical and directing sense of the former attempt) Isn't Sienna Saori's US name ? If I remember well, you were curious about it, @gfsdfgsdgsdfgs |
| Lost Canvas is still unfinished an anime but no... they just have to make a pointless remake of the classical saga. |
| TBH as far as animation is concerned, I don't actually care. Just don't start making stuff up and changing stuff. Just adapt the damn manga xD |
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