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Aug 1, 2017 1:45 PM
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Can someone tell me why are there so many Gintamas in the top anime list? Looks strange. I mean its ok to have one Gintama in the list, but so many (6 in top20)?
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Aug 1, 2017 1:47 PM
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Different seasons. It's that good... probably...... (not)
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some people just love that show too much I guess.

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Too Many Gintamas is an oxymoron so idk what that is supposed to mean.
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Aug 1, 2017 1:53 PM
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Because for some reason in anime culture seasons are treated as separate entities. I think they should post an all season average for the top lists.
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Aug 1, 2017 1:55 PM
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There is a simple reason for that. They genuinely don´t know if they´ll get a next season greenlit. Compared to properties like Naruto One Piece or Dragon Ball who just keep going no matter what because someone will say yes to them.
Aug 1, 2017 1:58 PM
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Because it has a lot of seasons and people love it.
Aug 1, 2017 2:00 PM
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I don't see a problem in that?

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There's never enough Gintama, the top 20 should have 20 seasons of Gintama.
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I just think it's strange that the first installment of Gintama is in the Top 20 on MAL. By comparison, on Anime Planet, the first installment of Gintama ranks #286 there, which feels more believable.

The rest of the Gintama seasons being in the Top 20 on MAL makes sense since it's just the sequel effect, and it's almost the same on Anime Planet (Top 25 instead of Top 20, though).
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Isn't it because separate seasons are treated as separate anime's? I hardly check the top anime anyway, I always check most popular anime :)
Aug 1, 2017 2:26 PM

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That's the sequel efect for you

Also different seasons, different entrys.
Aug 1, 2017 2:32 PM

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Because it has multiple, awesome seasons probably.
Aug 1, 2017 2:36 PM
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I'll be honest, Gintama is so great I wouldn't mind if the entire Top 20 consisted solely of Gintama. Kagura's face all the way to the bottom of the page.

PS: Gintama Movie 1 should be in there, it's damn good.
Aug 1, 2017 2:49 PM
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Because it is just that good.
It doesn't seem like you've seen it, so I don't really understand the point of this question. You haven't seen it, yet question how its seasons managed to get 6 spots in the top 20, I'd say just watch it and judge it yourself, see if it really deserves those spots.
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Prepare for one more Gintama in the top 15 once the sixth season starts airing, lol.
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Bigaku said:
Because it is just that good.
It doesn't seem like you've seen it, so I don't really understand the point of this question. You haven't seen it, yet question how its seasons managed to get 6 spots in the top 20, I'd say just watch it and judge it yourself, see if it really deserves those spots.


I think the op doesn't understand that Gintama has been on hiatus at certain times. It comes back and that is seen as a new entity. It is also that good.
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Bigaku said:
Because it is just that good.
It doesn't seem like you've seen it, so I don't really understand the point of this question. You haven't seen it, yet question how its seasons managed to get 6 spots in the top 20, I'd say just watch it and judge it yourself, see if it really deserves those spots.


I think the op doesn't understand that Gintama has been on hiatus at certain times. It comes back and that is seen as a new entity. It is also that good.


Yeah, as someone above said, It isn't like Naruto or OP where they just keep going on. Gintama used to have a low budget (Dunno if it still does.. because 2017 looked weird lol) and they even make jokes about being nearly cancelled or wasting the budget on certain scenes.

Not to mention that the studio animating Gintama changed in 2015, so those are all just reasons it has many seasons and not just one, long season.
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Bigaku said:
Because it is just that good.
It doesn't seem like you've seen it, so I don't really understand the point of this question. You haven't seen it, yet question how its seasons managed to get 6 spots in the top 20, I'd say just watch it and judge it yourself, see if it really deserves those spots.

Actually, i watched Gintama. Neither a fan nor a hater of it. Just one of the good animes with a huge fanbase. Nothing extraordinary.

Its just impractical that SEASONS take the places among the SERIES (many animes have production hell, but thats not a reason to list every season separately). Ofc fans of gintama did nothing wrong, they just bulldozered their fav show, but i wonder,
will MAL-administrators repair this thing or its ok for them? (OR MAYBE THEY ALL ARE GINTAMA FANS OH SH~ CONSPIRACY THEORY)
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RattlyUndead said:
Bigaku said:
Because it is just that good.
It doesn't seem like you've seen it, so I don't really understand the point of this question. You haven't seen it, yet question how its seasons managed to get 6 spots in the top 20, I'd say just watch it and judge it yourself, see if it really deserves those spots.

Actually, i watched Gintama. Neither a fan nor a hater of it. Just one of the good animes with a huge fanbase. Nothing extraordinary.

Its just impractical that SEASONS take the places among the SERIES. Ofc fans of gintama did nothing wrong, they just bulldozered their fav show, but i wonder,
will MAL-administrators repair this thing or its ok for them? (OR MAYBE THEY ALL ARE GINTAMA FANS OH SH~ CONSPIRACY THEORY)


I would have indeed liked MAL more if it was a bit like IMDB in how it puts all of the seasons of a series under one name which covers the whole series.
Because honestly speaking, Gintama should be judged and rated as a whole and not as separate seasons, so is the case for any other anime, as they are all just part of the same story line.
Also was that a Welcome to the N.H.K reference? :3
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Bigaku said:
Gintama should be judged and rated as a whole and not as separate seasons, so is the case for any other anime, as they are all just part of the same story line.


That isn't really true, now is it?

Shingeki no Kyojin Season 2?
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Bigaku said:
RattlyUndead said:

Actually, i watched Gintama. Neither a fan nor a hater of it. Just one of the good animes with a huge fanbase. Nothing extraordinary.

Its just impractical that SEASONS take the places among the SERIES. Ofc fans of gintama did nothing wrong, they just bulldozered their fav show, but i wonder,
will MAL-administrators repair this thing or its ok for them? (OR MAYBE THEY ALL ARE GINTAMA FANS OH SH~ CONSPIRACY THEORY)


I would have indeed liked MAL more if it was a bit like IMDB in how it puts all of the seasons of a series under one name which covers the whole series.
Because honestly speaking, Gintama should be judged and rated as a whole and not as separate seasons, so is the case for any other anime, as they are all just part of the same story line.
Also was that a Welcome to the N.H.K reference? :3

oh, i didnt even know about this show (now plan to watch), what's the reference?
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the technology is not here yet to group anime franchises and score them by franchise in the top anime ranking list
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_Lightsbane said:
Bigaku said:
Gintama should be judged and rated as a whole and not as separate seasons, so is the case for any other anime, as they are all just part of the same story line.


That isn't really true, now is it?

Shingeki no Kyojin Season 2?


Didn't watch the second season yet tbh, so I wouldn't know lol.

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Bigaku said:


I would have indeed liked MAL more if it was a bit like IMDB in how it puts all of the seasons of a series under one name which covers the whole series.
Because honestly speaking, Gintama should be judged and rated as a whole and not as separate seasons, so is the case for any other anime, as they are all just part of the same story line.
Also was that a Welcome to the N.H.K reference? :3

oh, i didnt even know about this show (now plan to watch), what's the reference?


The MC believes everything is a conspiracy against him. It's pretty nice if you are looking for something you can mostly relate to in one way or another if you are as miserable as me.
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Bigaku said:
_Lightsbane said:


That isn't really true, now is it?

Shingeki no Kyojin Season 2?


Didn't watch the second season yet tbh, so I wouldn't know lol.

RattlyUndead said:

oh, i didnt even know about this show (now plan to watch), what's the reference?


The MC believes everything is a conspiracy against him. It's pretty nice if you are looking for something you can mostly relate to in one way or another if you are as miserable as me.

haha sounds good enough for me :3 im in
ps conspiracy everywhere
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Aug 2, 2017 8:33 AM
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Never watched it but it seems like it is popular and people love the hell out of it.

Dunno.
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I thought this thread would be made again when Gintama's new sequel (this fall) starts airing
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well there are many different seasons of Gintama and it's pretty good.

I mean if you want the whole franchise to be judged as one series, it'll be too troublesome cuz that means MAL has to combine all the anime with a second season or more under one title and if a new season comes, the original anime, with its original number of members, has to be put under the seasonal anime, which would skew the sorting of those anime.
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Prepare for one more Gintama in the top 15 once the sixth season starts airing, lol.
I dont know if this season is gonna be in the top 10 like previous ones, it will at the start but its just going to be adapting some skipped comedy chapters for probably max 12 episodes and then on top of that some of these skipped chapters are kind of duds.

Stuff like enchousen at least had what is a fan favorite serious arc that pretty much was the first arc setting up the entire climax of the series what with oboro/narakus introduction. This one isnt gonna have an arc like that and with a bunch of the really stellar chapters already being adapted comedy wise this is honestly going to feel like the leftovers season.

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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

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Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

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well there are many different seasons of Gintama and it's pretty good.

I mean if you want the whole franchise to be judged as one series, it'll be too troublesome cuz that means MAL has to combine all the anime with a second season or more under one title and if a new season comes, the original anime, with its original number of members, has to be put under the seasonal anime, which would skew the sorting of those anime.


They can leave it as is for seasonal anime, but code it such that when doing top rated shows, all the seasons are consolidated and a weighted average is given.
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well there are many different seasons of Gintama and it's pretty good.

I mean if you want the whole franchise to be judged as one series, it'll be too troublesome cuz that means MAL has to combine all the anime with a second season or more under one title and if a new season comes, the original anime, with its original number of members, has to be put under the seasonal anime, which would skew the sorting of those anime.


They can leave it as is for seasonal anime, but code it such that when doing top rated shows, all the seasons are consolidated and a weighted average is given.


might be kinda complicated to code though, but you can put it up in the suggestions forum.
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Because for some reason in anime culture seasons are treated as separate entities. I think they should post an all season average for the top lists.


then gintama would still be in top 3.
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It's a masterpiece, that's why. It deserves all the spots it gets.

Aug 3, 2017 1:14 AM
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Unlike other much larger series such as detective conan with 25 seasons or one piece with 19 seasons, etc. Gintama is more a seasonal release rather than a continual one, and there is always the chance they may not make another.
Why so many rank high on the list, maybe a lot of people like it. I know that for me, gintama is easily one of the best shows I've been exposed to so far, and most undoubtedly the most humerous, though I do feel almost a little bad for giving pretty much all of it a 10 because I'm aware that many people really dislike those who give gintama a 10 each season despite it being genuinely what I think of the series. I'll probably revise my ratings tomorrow though and turn some 10's to 9's or 8's.
Btw, anyone else looking forward to season 9 in a few months?
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Can someone tell me why are there so few Gintamas in the top anime list? Looks strange. I mean its ok to have few not Gintama in the list, but so many (14 in top20)?
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U can never have enough Gintama man

Its each one is there because it's like one of the best anime of all time(duh) and they added it by airing dates. There's the first airing lot of 201 episodes which aired back in 2006, then there's gintama(2015) and Gintama 2017(which will continue later this year)
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[quote=Kuma]Can someone tell me why are there so few Gintamas in the top anime list? Looks strange. I mean its ok to have few not Gintama in the list, but so many (14 in top20)? [/quot
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Can someone tell me why are there so few Gintamas in the top anime list? Looks strange. I mean its ok to have few not Gintama in the list, but so many (14 in top20)?


I know, it's a glitch in the system. They should sort that out
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Unlike other much larger series such as detective conan with 25 seasons or one piece with 19 seasons, etc. Gintama is more a seasonal release rather than a continual one, and there is always the chance they may not make another.
Why so many rank high on the list, maybe a lot of people like it. I know that for me, gintama is easily one of the best shows I've been exposed to so far, and most undoubtedly the most humerous, though I do feel almost a little bad for giving pretty much all of it a 10 because I'm aware that many people really dislike those who give gintama a 10 each season despite it being genuinely what I think of the series. I'll probably revise my ratings tomorrow though and turn some 10's to 9's or 8's.
Btw, anyone else looking forward to season 9 in a few months?


Can't wait for gintoki to shove his sword up shoyo's ass (knowing the gintama creators it will probably happen) I would even buy the series. TWICE
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well atleast there are no yaoi anime in top 20 MAL
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There's never too many Gintamas.

Aside from the fact that Gintama is just the best anime ever made, it's because the only ones who watched the whole 201 episodes long season and then all of its sequels are people who absolutely love it and who give it mostly 10s and 9s. It's like that with every sequel to every show (unless the sequel differs completely from the 1st season), it just proves that Gintama is truly a great show and that's why it's above any other multi-season anime.


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There can never be enough Gintamas in Top 20.
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I don't see any problem with too many Gintamas in Top 20





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Unlike other much larger series such as detective conan with 25 seasons or one piece with 19 seasons, etc. Gintama is more a seasonal release rather than a continual one, and there is always the chance they may not make another.
Why so many rank high on the list, maybe a lot of people like it. I know that for me, gintama is easily one of the best shows I've been exposed to so far, and most undoubtedly the most humerous, though I do feel almost a little bad for giving pretty much all of it a 10 because I'm aware that many people really dislike those who give gintama a 10 each season despite it being genuinely what I think of the series. I'll probably revise my ratings tomorrow though and turn some 10's to 9's or 8's.
Btw, anyone else looking forward to season 9 in a few months?
Pff why would you change those scores if you love the series so much? If you feel like you should rate all of it with 10s then do it, it just means that you love the franchise so much that you can't give it any lower score even if some sequels are a little worse than the others. I am going to give every Gintama entry I've ever seen a 10 because it is my favorite show ever and I am almost certain it will be for the rest of my life and I don't have a heart to rate any of it lower. I don't care if someone doesn't like my scores, because it's just how I genuinely feel.


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There are a bunch of seasons
I've never watched it and I'm not sure if I ever will
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Because for some reason in anime culture seasons are treated as separate entities. I think they should post an all season average for the top lists.


I've made that suggestion before - Ideally they would have just a "Gintama" entry that is able to be rolled out or collapsed to see the individual seasons and specials. But as a major work is just one aggregate entry. The problem sort of comes when there are Anime series out there where seasons wildly differ to the point that it's not even the same anime.

Gunslinger Girl, imo, is the best example of this. Season 1 and 2 are nothing alike and produced by totally different studios to the point that they are essentially two different anime - sort of like GITS SAC vs. GITS Arise. To group them together would be a crime against Season1 of Gunslinger Girl.

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Pff why would you change those scores if you love the series so much? If you feel like you should rate all of it with 10s then do it, it just means that you love the franchise so much that you can't give it any lower score even if some sequels are a little worse than the others. I am going to give every Gintama entry I've ever seen a 10 because it is my favorite show ever and I am almost certain it will be for the rest of my life and I don't have a heart to rate any of it lower. I don't care if someone doesn't like my scores, because it's just how I genuinely feel.


Yeah I get what you mean, though I feel like some of the OVA's and maybe season 6 aren't deserving of a 10, more a 9. I rated them as if it were all 1 entry like one piece, though they actually aren't, at least on MAL.
I still find it funny though how people are upset about gintama being divided into individual entries when series like ./hack, ghost in the shell, gundam, etc. all have like a 50+ entries each easily. Even shows like dragon ball, one piece, and detective conan have a good 13-20+ on movies alone and even more with OVA's, etc. If I am to assume the sole difference is because most of these gintama entries make it in the top of the anime section, then I'm curious why it annoys anyone at all when you know it's entries and not series and that they are separate entries because they in fact stopped airing for a period between seasons, hence why the first entry is 4 seasons since it was continuous. Between breaks the information and or quality of a series could change a lot depending on where they go with it making it more annoying to unify all the entries as a single one. All I gather from seeing so many in the top is that many people enjoy the series in it's entirety rather than just sections (Since I'm certain there are series here who fall into that situation). At least, that's how I see it.
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Because its the best anime that was ever invented, there's no anime that could be better than Gintama :v
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Because the anime has a small but ravenous fanbase that rates the anime very high each season. This site won't merge them under one entry so it's best not to take the top anime list seriously.

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it just proves that Gintama is truly a great show and that's why it's above any other multi-season anime.

Literally all it proves is that it pleases people who already loved the first. The firstseasons has 400k watchers, but Gintama. has only 60k users. That's really not an indication of any quality but more a gap caused by the rating system.
Also, if new shows are separated by seasons, then why the hell older shows like Ranma 1/2 aren't? If you're gonna use a set of rules, use them for everything or it's pointless.

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well there are many different seasons of Gintama and it's pretty good.

I mean if you want the whole franchise to be judged as one series, it'll be too troublesome cuz that means MAL has to combine all the anime with a second season or more under one title and if a new season comes, the original anime, with its original number of members, has to be put under the seasonal anime, which would skew the sorting of those anime.


They can leave it as is for seasonal anime, but code it such that when doing top rated shows, all the seasons are consolidated and a weighted average is given.

This is probably the best solution.
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it just proves that Gintama is truly a great show and that's why it's above any other multi-season anime.

Literally all it proves is that it pleases people who already loved the first. The firstseasons has 400k watchers, but Gintama. has only 60k users. That's really not an indication of any quality but more a gap caused by the rating system.
Well that's what I said before, the only people who watch the sequels are people who love the show, that's why sequels are almost always rated higher. What I meant in my last sentence was that Gintama is a really good show (in my opinion and a lot of other individuals') that is liked by a lot of people and that's why all of its main seasons are ranked above 9, even the first season. For example Haikyuu has 3 seasons and each of them is ranked higher than the previous one, but they're ranked lower than Gintama.
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Also, if new shows are separated by seasons, then why the hell older shows like Ranma 1/2 aren't? If you're gonna use a set of rules, use them for everything or it's pointless.
Ok look, Ranma was airing without breaks, as one series, like for example Naruto. The same goes for the very first Gintama entry on mal. It has 201 episodes and guess what, it's also divided into seasons, just like Ranma, but because it was airing without breaks it is seen on mal as one season, just like Ranma. Other seasons of Gintama are treated as other entries because there was always a at least 1 year long break between them. It's just like asking why season one of Attack on Titan which aired 4 years ago and season 2 which aired this year aren't treated on mal as one entry.


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