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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Well of course Selestia wouldn't die. She survived and is resting so I hope she'll get better. Kinda interesting to see the mecha guy getting along with Sota. Sota should try to make things right rather than feel guilty about some of the recent events. In terms of pacing, we got a more storytelling episode and focusing more on Sota and Setsuna. |
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| Well we sure went to dark edgy territory fast. Setsuna was such a cutie, you damn fucked up Sota. |
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| The darker the better c: |
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| I already watched the RAW, for some reason the subbed version is delayed. My Japanese lessons are paying off, but seriously I think Re:Creators is more difficult to understand than Seikaisuru Kado, too many big words. Dayum Souta fucked up big time with Shimazaki, no wonder he can't talk about it |
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| Not about 11 episode But How do you think Is Mamika's Resurrection Possible? |
| So, being completely unable to understand Japanese, that last segment looked like... And maybe someone can confirm for me if they understood what was being said, but does Souta think Setsuna killed her self because he wouldn't White Knight for her on the internet and defend her from internet haters? |
firemagnet said: neonie said: So, being completely unable to understand Japanese, that last segment looked like... And maybe someone can confirm for me if they understood what was being said, but does Souta think Setsuna killed her self because he wouldn't White Knight for her on the internet and defend her from internet haters? Something like that. I couldn't make it out myself, but that's essentially it. The information we knew from before already suggested that she was fragile and subject to emotional swings, but Souta betraying her was the last straw. As we can see from the episode, his own work was, to put it bluntly, middling at best. His own artbook shows that he was actually improving, but he felt stuck while she was getting official connections. He felt left-behind and betrayed in his own way. So he lashed out. In doing so, Setsuna--already a recluse--lost her only friend. It seems that shortly thereafter, Setsuna Shimazaki published Altair: World Etude as a rhetorical "are you not entertained?" to her critics, incorporating all the features her "haters" thought that such a character should have--chuuni tendencies, ridiculous powers, etc. Judging by her previous artwork, which incorporated lots of bright colors, and peaceful settings, Altair was intended to be nothing less than the avatar of Setsuna's revenge; a final "fuck you" to the world which, she felt, had rejected her--a lasting proof of her existence. I believe that what happened afterwards was this: We already know from episode 3 that a creator imparts significant information when creating something, based upon the conversation between Marine and Meteora. It should not be too much of a logical jump to suggest that emotions could be imparted as well. Which may be exactly what Setsuna did with Altair--imparting to her all of her negative emotions, and thereby removing her narrative yoke. It's also a very easy conclusion to make that Setuna's suicide was the direct catalyst for Altair being able to make it to the "real" world. That's a great, concise way to describe Altair's origins. |
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| Finally we now know the full story behind Setsuna's suicide. Gotta say that Sota fucked up pretty bad there. |
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| I'm glad Selestia is okay. Sota had a nice talk with Rui. Got to see how Sota met Setsuna and the events after that. She got more popular than him and started to feel a lot of distance between them. He wanted to defend her when people were accusing her without proof, but he couldn't. He thought he would do more harm than good. Because of that, he feels guilty for her death. He messed up bad. |
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| Yeah, Sota is a fucking asshole. That's pretty fucked up, you didn't even try. Did Setsuna actually plagiarize or was it baseless rumours? |
| I do not know if I should feel pity or rage towards Sota. I am mad/upset that he did not talk about it a long time ago. But I am glad to see his stupidity to start speaking out. |
| Selesia did well to recover considering she had a big hole through her stomach. About time Souta explained everything. |
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| Finally, Souta revealed the truth about Altair's origins and we also learned the details that led to Setsuna killing herself. |
| People on MAL refuse to actually enjoy watching anime. Your taste in anime isn't a personality trait. |
| Sota messed up big time. Jealousy is an ugly thing. At least he explained his relationship with Setsuna. About time. Kanoya gave a nice talk to Sota. The even managed to connect. But Yuuya still feeling down though. Guess we'll have to wait for an explanation in how Magane was able to steal his ability. I really hope Sota gets a major character development. I just don't like the way he is right now. |
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| So predictable... so boring... wasting so much screen time on something i'd consider as cliche... but i guess it has to be done since they kept foreshadowing it but did they really need to spend this much time on the topic... Sigh... Then again my interest in this series has been deteriorating since episode one... Great start... and then... not so great follow-up. |
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| Shimazaki was so cute and the backstory with her and Sota has some serious depth that I wasn't expecting in this anime! This anime continues to get better and better and I can't wait to see what's next! |
| I shall rule over the realms of anime and manga! Mwahhahahahaha!!! |
| God, he better have actually shoved a knife into her or something. Claiming you killed someone because of something as stupid as not calling them makes me want to punch kittens. |
| the scenes with kanoya were nice! i enjoyed finally getting some insight into his character. also, the setting was so serene i was kinda jealous... wish i could've been is sota's position haha i'm glad we finally got some backstory! she turned out to be a lot nicer than i'd expected, whoops... sota must've really fuk'd up somewhere along the line, dang. overall this was a very good episode, possibly the best of all the heavy dialogue episodes just by the fact that they didn't give all the lines to meteora LOL (though i fear that's what we've got to look forward to next episode...) |
| Ah great , finally you talked about your past Sota , took you 11 episodes |
| I wonder if he actually saw her commit suicide. I personally don't blame Sota for being that because I would be a hypocrite as I used to be just like that years ago as a middle schooler. |
| Shota and kanoya have a talk and then he tells them about shimazaki and his jealousy. |
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| We finally get the real story. It doesn't seem to be his fault for Setsuna's suicide. But I think there'll be more info next episode. Glad that Selesia and Meteora are okay. |
| That scene between Selesia and her creator was beautiful and the part with Sota and the mecha guy was great too But as usual, Sota ends up making me dislike him once again. Yuna was such a kind and just overall sweet girl who is beyond cute and just because he's jealous of her, he just stood by and watch her get attacked from all the cunts hating on her online This guy really is a piece of shit, and it's no wonder he hates himself so much....Especially since I feel like he's going to attack her in the same way as the online cunts are and it's this that's gonna put Yuna over the edge and end up killing herself |
| A) I liked Kanoya's speech. This is something that has been discussed through and through in different works of art (from literature to poetry to... anime). Do we have to follow our destiny, one that it is set in stone or do we have free will at all? I mean, you have "gods" out there, writing the stories of these characters, and then you have the creations trying to fight back, to live according to their own desires. Aliceteria, Magane, and Altair are /extreme/ examples of that, who are literary fighting against what was written for them and, in some cases, even killing people to prove their point (or just for fun, like Magane). But then Kanoya, Salesia, Mirokuji, and Meteora are also living a struggle between being and end product of an artist and living for themselves --in a less destructive way-- doing what they can, but at the same time understanding and accepting their roles in both their own worlds and the god's world. Kanoya seemed very childlike, but he --as well as Mamika-- matured over the episodes and showed us that even if he acts all carefree and uplift, he understands what it is happening around him and offered his point of view to Sota. B) Sota. People have been a little rash towards him for the past ten episodes. But guys, he has no powers, he's just a mere human being with tons of fears of his own. He's much like us, and he finally is honest to the rest. I think that confessing was a great step in his personal development and somehow I feel proud of him? Yes, what he did was horrible: he had an amazing friendship and he left Shimazaki alone when she most needed him. A friend shouldn't do that, but friends do commit mistakes and sometimes are petty towards people who totally don't deserve it for trivial things like (professional) jealousy. Unfortunately, Sota didn't have the chance to correct his mistake. But it isn't his fault that Shimazaki died (even if he feels it was) (well, I think). What I'm trying to say here is that, sh*t, we all do this kind of things to our friends once or twice over the course of our lives, and we also have lost some friends because of our mistakes. At least I have, so I can relate to Sota a little. C) Shimazaki. It was an overreaction of her to commit suicide for "a little bit" of internet trolling? Dudes. We cannot be judgemental here. Every single person reacts differently towards being attacked, in any form. Shimazaki reminded me of a dear friend of mine who is talented AF and is one of the best human beings I know in real life, and she sometimes suffers from anxiety from the most mundane things or from what others think of her, and let me tell you, that is not something to take or judge lightly. Just don't be pricks and have a little sensibility about this theme. <3 |
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firemagnet said: Zoos said: C) Shimazaki. It was an overreaction of her to commit suicide for "a little bit" of internet trolling? Dudes. We cannot be judgemental here. Every single person reacts differently towards being attacked, in any form. Shimazaki reminded me of a dear friend of mine who is talented AF and is one of the best human beings I know in real life, and she sometimes suffers from anxiety from the most mundane things or from what others think of her, and let me tell you, that is not something to take or judge lightly. Just don't be pricks and have a little sensibility about this theme. <3 Right now it feels like we've been handed incomplete information. The way the episode ended makes it clear, at least to me, that Souta has more to say on the issue of Shimazaki Yuna's (Setsuna's) suicide. If mere accusations of plagiarism (and Souta's lack of response) were enough to make her want to commit suicide, then both Souta and Shimazaki are far more shallow than I previously thought. It would indicate to me that Souta is effectively blameless in the matter and blowing the whole thing completely out of proportion concerning his role, and it would also indicate that Shimazaki was already significantly troubled. Yes. :) After I wrote this I started to think about possible scenarios there. What if Sota not only avoided to get involved in the whole internet trolling thing (even to defend her) but also said something directly or indirectly to her that ended up in her suicide? The end of that story was purposely left out this episode, so yeah, we need to wait for next episode to finally know what happened there and why Altair is the way she is. |
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| i swear if he just sorta liked her being flamed online and didn't actually contribute and was being this dramatic the whole time this show is fucking dropped |
| Nice episode. Loved the conversation between Selesia and Matsubara, was really nice of him to tell her that he'd try putting some stories into his novels. :3 Kanoya was the man this chapter, really cool of him to help out Sota. However, what I really liked was the theme of the conversation, I really liked how he told Sota that he has the ability to write his own story and forge his own destiny unlike him who has a clear purpose in existence. It was also interesting to see that Kanoya is actually at terms with having a purpose even if it does feel restraining. Finally, the backstory. Setsuna was such a sweet girl, can't believe Sota didn't even try to help her and just stood back. Jealousy is such a cruel thing. :( Though I don't think Setsuna committed suicide just because of some Internet trolling and berating, there's probably something more. Something that really hurt her deeply. Looking forward to next episode. |
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