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May 29, 2017 3:22 PM

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DenjaX said:
Ill get rid of togs so I can propose killing inactives first again.
Inactives are more likely be town though...hate to say it

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May 29, 2017 3:22 PM

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DenjaX said:
Ill get rid of togs so I can propose killing inactives first again.

Which inactives you mean?
May 29, 2017 3:23 PM

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yurkin said:
DenjaX said:
Ill get rid of togs so I can propose killing inactives first again.

Which inactives you mean?
You.
May 29, 2017 3:26 PM

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Gruffin said:
yurkin said:

Which inactives you mean?
You.

Lol
Go on if you wish.
May 29, 2017 3:29 PM

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Hmm I think this'll have some use...

@Yurkin Why are Togs and I scum and what made you vote him over me again?
May 29, 2017 3:30 PM

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Vote Count 2.2
Togs (4 votes): wen294 (12), Laby-Gaga (13), yurkin (14), DenjaX (15)
Gruffin (3 votes): DenjaX (1), Gruffin (2), Fo (5), Ruu (10), Suzune-chan (16)
DenjaX (0 votes): Ruu (3)
Fo (0 votes): Ruu (4)
Suzune-chan (0 votes): DenjaX (6)
wen294 (0 votes): DenjaX (8), Gruffin (9)
Ruu (0 votes): Gruffin (7), Suzune-chan (11)
Not Voting (3 players): Floofs, Togs, Bee-Boy

Inverted Tally
DenjaX: Gruffin (1), Suzune-chan (6), wen294 (8), Togs (15)
Gruffin: Gruffin (2), Ruu (7), wen294 (9)
Ruu: DenjaX (3), Fo (4), Gruffin (10)
Fo: Gruffin (5)
Suzune-chan: Ruu (11), Gruffin (16)
wen294: Togs (12)
Laby-Gaga: Togs (13)
yurkin: Togs (14)

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May 29, 2017 3:39 PM

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Gruffin said:
Hmm I think this'll have some use...

@Yurkin Why are Togs and I scum and what made you vote him over me again?

If you think you'll get some use of it think again lmao
I never said "and", you are making it sound there is no reasons at all to vote for either you and togs. lol
I know you dislike placing votes that are not part of a wagon, but i believe in you to create a new one, on yurkin for example hahaha ;3
Then explain yourself why.
May 29, 2017 3:40 PM

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wen294 said:
Going through Togs' posts there's one thing that catches my eye: It looks like he's searching for town-reads instead of scum-reads. All i see him doing is quoting posts like "oh i quite like this" or "i agree with this", sometimes giving 0 reasoning behind it for example his early town-lean on Wyndz. Even his vote for quite a while had been on one of his town-reads.

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I'm going to bed actually, plan to try to make full use of tomorrow though. With the way the thread is going I have a feeling I might have to play defense for logic heh. Anyways see you on the other side

Like this. He doesn't seem to have intentions of getting a counter-train going or going after people. All he seems to be focussing on is town-reading people and getting people town-read.

Togs said:
I feel kind of bad defending the main lynch wagon so aggressively without any solid scumreads of my own right now, so here's who I would rather lynch toDay: Lamby, Grrr, Astros, Abuhumaid for being big question marks, maaybe Wyz depending on Gruffin's case, and if somehow other people are suspicious of Suzu I could go for that too though it's looking doubtful I could sort her out to my own satisfaction by the deadline.

I will be proactive here and vote: Abuhumaid to get something going

Once it gets near EoD he basically says he's okey with voting inactives. Completly going after low-hanging fruits with not much to base it on. After the lynch on Lambyga went through he basically got completly inactive again and managed to post a whole 1 post in 2 days time.

Why are people townreading this guy again? The only real thing i can give him credit for is sticking with his guts and being seemingly fine with voting anybody from the inactives, which isn't necessarily a town-tell if all the scum happen to be active. So yeah i feel like all he's getting town-read for RN is whiteknighting.

For now: Vote: Togs
You said you were fine with me voting you if you turned out to go inactive so here you have it. Along with the reasons mentioned above.

Edit: now that i think about it, it might be more likely that he's SK than mafia with how self-preserving he's behaving. Him being scum is still a fairly decent possibility though.


I currently have togs in my leaning scum pile.
I agree with wen's point though about them not actively scum hunting and only looking for town reads.

I also don't know why I was town read early on with them and abu wasn't but then we were both moved to the null pile in 1371. I don't know why abu was moved since togs said that in 789 th last game abu flipped scum doing the same thing, but I feel that abu is doing the same thing that they did in SM, so to me, abu's play style is not alignment indicative.

I don't agree with wen on the counter train point. I thought togs tried to get people off the logic train and tried to convince others to get on the another train since they refused to vote logic. 810 I don't think scum would defend someone as much as togs has defended logic, but I guess it could be easily faked so it's not alignment indicative.
May 29, 2017 3:41 PM

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Ah jeez. Suddenly posts.
May 29, 2017 3:44 PM

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I finished catching up. And f...
my mind keeps going: Gruffin seems town, but this makes me think he is scum based on a gut feeling, but the other posts where good, but Gruffin is great at being mafia...

I'm going to pull a Suzune and go with my gut:

vote: Gruffin

If she ends up flipping town you can lynch me next cause I'm done trying to figure out this game xD
May 29, 2017 3:44 PM

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yurkin said:
Gruffin said:
Hmm I think this'll have some use...

@Yurkin Why are Togs and I scum and what made you vote him over me again?

If you think you'll get some use of it think again lmao
I never said "and", you are making it sound there is no reasons at all to vote for either you and togs. lol
I know you dislike placing votes that are not part of a wagon, but i believe in you to create a new one, on yurkin for example hahaha ;3
Then explain yourself why.
It isn't for my sake.

I don't want to create a yurkin wagon because you are only a null read. With this little time left, I will not be able to push it through, and even if I did I would just be repeating my Day 1 mistake of lynching Lamby over Logic.
May 29, 2017 3:46 PM

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Ruu you were already voting for me, lol.
May 29, 2017 3:46 PM

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I thought I had unvoted that's why I vote again lol xD
May 29, 2017 3:47 PM

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Okay, if there's a sudden vote reversal and I die, please remember this, I truly think if you can get the reps talking, this game won't be so hard:
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-If anyone plays along with my plan and posts their thoughts, please engage with them and discuss stances.
-Otherwise, get the replacements talking about something, if not me. Maybe even soft-reset the game by asking them to play from Day 2 onwards and judging behavior from there if you have to.
May 29, 2017 3:47 PM

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Okay rip sorry about that something took up my attention for the pat half hour or so
May 29, 2017 3:50 PM

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Ruu said:
I finished catching up. And f...
my mind keeps going: Gruffin seems town, but this makes me think he is scum based on a gut feeling, but the other posts where good, but Gruffin is great at being mafia...

I'm going to pull a Suzune and go with my gut:

vote: Gruffin

If she ends up flipping town you can lynch me next cause I'm done trying to figure out this game xD
I advocate for gut reads In theory your mind figures out the puzzle before you can aticulate it. Famous French Cop used to line all the suspects or the map of France up and throw a dart at them because he believed his mind would hit the right target. Naturally he is known because he was correct...

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May 29, 2017 3:50 PM

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I'm the cop. I copped Suzune last Night and got a town result. Yet she is my biggest scumread so I have been paranoid of a godfather all Day. I think I figured out a way to know if I can trust my result or not for sure but it involves me surviving toNight and getting my action off.
May 29, 2017 3:52 PM

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I do not want to lynch Gruffin. I do not want to lynch Suzune toDay. I haven't found anything convincing enough to vote anyone else so I will have to resort to lynching in the null pile.

vote: Floofs
May 29, 2017 3:52 PM

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Heh, nice knowing everyone. o/ Remember what I said in 1422!
May 29, 2017 3:54 PM

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I'm voting floof because out of him and Yurkin, I think he is the most likely to be scum. His most recent post only kind of backs me up because he posts a fence-sitty opinion of me without committing to a vote so close to deadline time. It's like he does not want to get his hands dirty.
May 29, 2017 3:55 PM

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Gruffin said:
Welp, I'm going to continue doing this for now.

@Floofs Can you look at Wen's case on Togs and Suzune's case on Ruu and tell me if you agree/disagree with them and what you think Wen and Suzune are?

@DenjaX @Fo Can you two critique Floofs' analysis?


Ruu is on my scum list, but it's not for the reasons that suzune lists. I am mostly bothered by ruu's play style and in inconsistency throughout the game.
May 29, 2017 3:55 PM

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Can we make the miracle CFD happen again ? @Gruffin @DenjaX @yurkin
May 29, 2017 3:56 PM

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Togs said:
I do not want to lynch Gruffin. I do not want to lynch Suzune toDay. I haven't found anything convincing enough to vote anyone else so I will have to resort to lynching in the null pile.

vote: Floofs
My apologises I made this more difficult for you. By baiting Grrr, I made you suspect your read because that would have been me directing the town cops attention in order to clear myself. Sorry, that my gambit hurt you.

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May 29, 2017 3:57 PM

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@Togs Floofs is a new player. I don't think being fence-sitty is very AI for people in their...2nd game? I think?
May 29, 2017 3:57 PM

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vote:togs
May 29, 2017 3:57 PM

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Togs said:
Can we make the miracle CFD happen again ? @Gruffin @DenjaX @yurkin

>: nah
May 29, 2017 3:58 PM

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@Floofs He claimed cop. :\
May 29, 2017 3:58 PM

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Vote Count 2.3
Togs (5 votes): wen294 (12), Laby-Gaga (13), yurkin (14), DenjaX (15), Floofs (18)
Gruffin (3 votes): DenjaX (1), Gruffin (2), Fo (5), Ruu (10), Suzune-chan (16)
Floofs (1 vote): Togs (17)
DenjaX (0 votes): Ruu (3)
Fo (0 votes): Ruu (4)
Suzune-chan (0 votes): DenjaX (6)
wen294 (0 votes): DenjaX (8), Gruffin (9)
Ruu (0 votes): Gruffin (7), Suzune-chan (11)
Not Voting (1 player): Bee-Boy

Inverted Tally
DenjaX: Gruffin (1), Suzune-chan (6), wen294 (8), Togs (15)
Gruffin: Gruffin (2), Ruu (7), wen294 (9)
Ruu: DenjaX (3), Fo (4), Gruffin (10)
Fo: Gruffin (5)
Suzune-chan: Ruu (11), Gruffin (16)
wen294: Togs (12)
Laby-Gaga: Togs (13)
yurkin: Togs (14)
Togs: Floofs (17)
Floofs: Togs (18)

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May 29, 2017 3:58 PM

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Gruffin said:
@Togs Floofs is a new player. I don't think being fence-sitty is very AI for people in their...2nd game? I think?
I agree, I would never suspect them for just that under usual circumstances, but they are still mostly null and under Yurkin for me. Wouldn't you agree that they are a better option than me, you, or no lynch ?
May 29, 2017 3:58 PM

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Uhhh well I guess if we do end up with Togs dead, we'll have a confirmed townie if he flips cop.
May 29, 2017 3:59 PM

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Lol not lynching the un-CC'd cop is mafia 101, if I'm actually lynched here good luck guys.
May 29, 2017 3:59 PM

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Togs said:
Gruffin said:
@Togs Floofs is a new player. I don't think being fence-sitty is very AI for people in their...2nd game? I think?
I agree, I would never suspect them for just that under usual circumstances, but they are still mostly null and under Yurkin for me. Wouldn't you agree that they are a better option than me, you, or no lynch ?
Eugh. Honestly all of the options are equally bad.
May 29, 2017 4:00 PM

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Grape is also town, he was my pregame read

Floofs is SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM

Suzune could be scum look into her
May 29, 2017 4:00 PM

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May 29, 2017 4:00 PM

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Gruffin said:
@Floofs He claimed cop. :\


I dont believe it. I think it's a fake claim.
May 29, 2017 4:00 PM

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Gruffin said:
@Floofs He claimed cop. :\

Oh man he did, lynching claimed pr is bad idea. >:
May 29, 2017 4:00 PM

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smh you're on your own now
May 29, 2017 4:00 PM

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Floofs said:
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@Floofs He claimed cop. :\


I dont believe it. I think it's a fake claim.
What? Really...

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May 29, 2017 4:01 PM

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RIP THIS TOWN
May 29, 2017 4:02 PM

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Gruffin said:
RIP THIS TOWN
You are not helping....

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May 29, 2017 4:02 PM

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May 29, 2017 4:02 PM

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Togs why you claimed in such short notice before phase change?
May 29, 2017 4:03 PM

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Suzune-chan said:
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RIP THIS TOWN
You are not helping....
I know, I know. I'll see what I can do to make things better.
May 29, 2017 4:03 PM

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yurkin said:
Togs why you claimed in such short notice before phase change?
Sorry, OOG reasons partly and I was baiting a wagon on me a little bit : / Next time I won't mess around as much if I'm in the same situation again
May 29, 2017 4:04 PM

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Night 2

Togs has been lynched. They were:

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May 29, 2017 4:06 PM

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but you vot
yurkin said:
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@Floofs He claimed cop. :\

Oh man he did, lynching claimed pr is bad idea. >:


but you voted for togs too
May 29, 2017 4:07 PM

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So sorry togs...
May 29, 2017 4:10 PM

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Floofs said:
but you vot
yurkin said:

Oh man he did, lynching claimed pr is bad idea. >:


but you voted for togs too

I voted long before his claim. And for claimed pr my stance is one - they should be believed in untill proved otherwise.
May 29, 2017 4:18 PM

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I feel so guilty now >: hope sk or mafia choose me for a kill n2.
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Togs said:
yurkin said:
Togs why you claimed in such short notice before phase change?
Sorry, OOG reasons partly and I was baiting a wagon on me a little bit : / Next time I won't mess around as much if I'm in the same situation again
Are you kidding me? I forced a claim on you and you refused. Wtf wtf

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