| @Gruffin when I was making the town/scum list I realise I had too many town reads and I didn't feel comfortable listing them all. It didn't feel right. That's why I went with my most comfortable ones. |
| @Astros I'm getting tired of this dialogue we are having. Is not helpful at all to the game, just a waste of time. Let's talk again after you get some free time and made some comments on people's alignments okay? (: |
| /Phew, finally caught up completely. @Astros Ruu's probing of you. Town getting frustrated with a lack of a read or scum trying to look busy by targeting lurkers? If undecided, what parts of your conversation with her do you think will prove to be useful hints when you do decide? |
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| The footsteps of an unknown figure break the silence. He looks around the room then asks. "With Rinto gone how will we manage?" Just then the rowdy troublemaker jumps up to everyone's chagrin. Without watching he shouts... "Rinto mode activate!!!" A more subdued logic enters the thread. |
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Suzune-chan said: Grapefruit21 said: Nope, I like to believe that our power roles are smarter then needed. Plus given what they were talking about and the direction it was going, the mafia was unlikely to draw out power roles instead, it would be curious to see what way people responded to things. Everything is not always worst case senerio. Instead, I feel like you spoiled things...So you didn't see a large risk to PRs accidentally outing themselves if I hadn't stepped in? @CorruptedPurity turns out I was barking at shadows with Astros. I completely misunderstood one of his posts and missed another. He's not in the town block, but not in the heat of suspicion. With Abu it's the lack of impact and lack of voting in RVS. And reading how neatly you laid the case out I'm back on suspecting Rinto!Slot. I think, but not as strongly as logic. That is a completely reasonable stance to take. Are you still scum reading me? Or more just annoyed at me ending the trap? |
Grapefruit21 said: well considering you did it more then once and were eager to keep botching traps you are in the gray zone of possibly scum. Suzune-chan said: Nope, I like to believe that our power roles are smarter then needed. Plus given what they were talking about and the direction it was going, the mafia was unlikely to draw out power roles instead, it would be curious to see what way people responded to things. Everything is not always worst case senerio. Instead, I feel like you spoiled things... That is a completely reasonable stance to take. Are you still scum reading me? Or more just annoyed at me ending the trap? |
 Where there is no imagination there is no horror. || Arthur Conan Doyle || Happy Halloween! |
| @Ruu I'll look back through your posts and respond in a bit. For now, @Grapefruit21 (This link is referred to a lot in this) My current reads on Togs is he is a light townread. Our view of the gamestate is eerily similar, and the way he responded to my quadruple-scoop Ruu question told me that he's willing to think critically about both myself and Ruu. In addition to that, he also offered his own opinions on her when he really didn't have to in order to evade my suspicion at the time. One thing in particular that I liked about it was this line: I don’t know if that makes sense and this I already typed too much for just a slight feeling but.. either way not enough to fully read her. It flows naturally, and it's....not really a thing that I can see him pulling off so well as scum. This is because it's much easier to get caught up in explaining your reads when they are genuine. Despite everything I said above, he is still only a light townread. This is because I haven't seen him do much pushing on others and he hasn't been doing a whole lot to change that. @Togs Can you check in and give us an update? --- Oh, another quick note about Togs is I'm super tempted to sheep his read on Logic (as I'm seeing a lot of what he's seeing on that read too), but I'd really hate to be pocketed by him twice in a row. Fence sit, hooray! @Logic340 Tagging you because I believe you asked for opinions on this read awhile ago? |
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| Just got home~ And realized why I don't play anymore; game is far better when you don't have to back read every time you open the thread lel |
Suzune-chan said: Grapefruit21 said: well considering you did it more then once and were eager to keep botching traps you are in the gray zone of possibly scum. That is a completely reasonable stance to take. Are you still scum reading me? Or more just annoyed at me ending the trap? Then explain this issue to me: if I was scum then I knew about the trap and it wasn't catching anything and stopped the slim chance of the best case scenario for us of a PR slipping and revealing too much. I also did so knowing it would draw the ire of everyone trying to keep it a secret. Doesn't seem like a scum plus play overall. Edit: except of course for this particular line of trying to clear myself, but playing along and staying in on the secret is a better way to stay in the clear. And this can never really clear me because it's all wine. |
Grapefruit21May 24, 2017 7:22 PM
grrr said: Sure, go ahead. I have no plans.@Suzune, do you have any plans for tonight? if not can i come to investigate you? @Ruu it is okay I wont let them lynch you. you can keep doing your thing. @logic so that is it ? you give up ? |
Where there is no imagination there is no horror. || Arthur Conan Doyle || Happy Halloween! |
Grapefruit21 said: Unless you stopped it to look townie, especially since you stopped it because you are worried about townies? Or you stopped it on accident or walked into it on accident, or possibly responded on instinct. There are a number of answers.Suzune-chan said: well considering you did it more then once and were eager to keep botching traps you are in the gray zone of possibly scum. Then explain this issue to me: if I was scum then I knew about the trap and it wasn't catching anything and stopped the slim chance of the best case scenario for us of a PR slipping and revealing too much. I also did so knowing it would draw the ire of everyone trying to keep it a secret. Doesn't seem like a scum plus play overall. |
Where there is no imagination there is no horror. || Arthur Conan Doyle || Happy Halloween! |
CorruptedPurity said: Um yea; but the entire idea was a reaction test that hinged on scum not knowing town flavor so I figured playing along with what you and laby were doing could've shook something else loose or at least I didn't want to obscure rinto's next post again after you relaxed on him and laby claimed a character, , in hindsight you voting him directly after probably curbed all that but I digressNo hard cc? Do you not see what's my angle? Wyndz as a player looks suspicious to me but currently I have 2 major suspects and 1 strong suspect so wyndz can sit at the back of my list til I exhausted the rest of my leads. I really do feel strong coming into this game so doc pls consider going on me. circling back to that quick i wanted to say that rinto claiming to be a side character was awkward, like he's trying to claim zombie in a way that's trying to come off like he isn't aware what the stock flavor is which doesn't seem like a town-mindset first off but also a little too.. selfaware I guess is the word also agree that 3 shot doc + bulletproof could be argued inelegant (this point will be more spec-able after some flips) but moreover just a really convenient claim in general. but my top theory is that he's a scum-doc that knew he was safe to claim doctor so he tried it for town-points and failed hard. Like the biggest question is what is the town motive for a doctor to claim there under no pressure? Can't really think of any But a scum-doc with talks of a doctor swimming around is probably hungry for some low-effort cred. on top of it all his reaction to pressure was p scummy in general vote: rinto so going back here, could still do wyndz if it came down to it but I believe this has more momentum at the moment |
| when have you seen me do that? I've flooded the thread with my fluff I thought you'd be upset? |
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| I see suz and togs have given me some responses really anxious for those. Got some townreads I feel pretty good about. Still a bit of a lurker-pool to hopefully skim down in the coming pages. |
| Just a reminder we do have lynch lock in this game and today it takes 8 to lynch. Let's put our heads together and see if we can get something close to the majority? @PentaFlare can we get a vote count please? |
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| By the way, I am nameless zombie (I litteraly have no name, just zombie cop) and from my role description it is clear that the entire town is zombies but I am not sure if that is true for the other zombies. Is there anyone else, beside Rinto, who based on his role description can't tell if his allies are zombies? |
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| Also does anyone knows if not zombies, what are the mafia and SK ? my role description doesn't say anything but I doubt they are zombies too. Also if you are curious I can find the SK too, but I wont know if he is mafia or sk. |
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logic340 said: They participated technically; but it pinged me slightly for just how useless the participation was. Why is it you chose not to participate in RVS? Sorta like a "i'm here but not [i]really[/i[ here kinda thing which you see from scum more than town and that part of it I sorta chalked up to maybe just unfamiliar with the crowd kind of the new guy not sure where to get a footing but it does seem as if abu said he's played a few games here.. Curious to see if he actually gets around to providing some real content |
| I am against killing rinto today. lets give him chance to "protect" someone. Rinto I would advice you if you fake claimed to take it to your grave because if you try to say it was fake claim you will get lynched hard : D. Being doctor is the only thing that keeps you alive yet after you slipped. |
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| I wonna poke something. I already poked logic but he is no fun. Suzune will be poked tomorrow. I think I can poke gruffin today. Gruffin we can lynch you today and tomorrow we can lynch someone else. vote: gruffin |
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grrr said: You are welcome to poke me. I'm hanging around for about an hour and then I will have to be off.I wonna poke something. I already poked logic but he is no fun. Suzune will be poked tomorrow. I think I can poke gruffin today. Gruffin we can lynch you today and tomorrow we can lynch someone else. vote: gruffin |
Where there is no imagination there is no horror. || Arthur Conan Doyle || Happy Halloween! |
CorruptedPurity said: Not quite; I think it's actually more likely a town laby saw a chance to get reactions and took it rather than the two options he'd be taking as scum: outright claiming scum (ballsy as fuck) or taking a very high-risk almost no reward play for no real reason.Laby-Gaga said: I think you mean, how does it feel to have an easy way to catch out scum mechanically thrown right out the fuhkken window by someone who durped, clicked then posted before thinking about it at all. To anyone in the know, you were far from silent about what you were playing at and my claim should have stood out a mile away. I'm still baffled that someone would actually throw this away so early into the free train on me. Edit: Fixed then having read "the" You were online from all the way when you first claimed and I asked whether it was bait to my vote on you til Grape opened up the game and told everyone the setup til now. Funny thing is you only went, "Oh I knew this all along, I was just baiting maf to make a mechanical mistake" after Grape revealed whats up. This is like claiming miller after being caught by cop... |
grrr said: Would I really say that? That does not sound like me.@Suzune a town suzune would say "when I am town I usually got killed early so you better not waste your investigation on me" but you welcomed my investigation which is SUZPICIOUS. |
Where there is no imagination there is no horror. || Arthur Conan Doyle || Happy Halloween! |
grrr said: Sure, that's fine. I can wait. I enjoy talking so whenever is fine. @Suzune I really want to poke you tomorrow. If I poke you now, then it will be easier for you to defend and once you successfully deflect a poke it would be way easier to deflect the pokes to come. I want to get enough data for my first poke to make sure it hurts. |
Where there is no imagination there is no horror. || Arthur Conan Doyle || Happy Halloween! |
| Suz who's scum? |
grrr said: You should know I don't sheep pally@Fo since we are both town I guess you can just sheep my votes. As long as we help each other we wont get lynched. |
Fo said: At this very instant, Laby-Gaga is.Suz who's scum? Edit: Also possibly grapefruit |
Where there is no imagination there is no horror. || Arthur Conan Doyle || Happy Halloween! |
| Alright so reads list: Town Grape CPurity dono/Wen Fo Togs Gruffin Ruu Grrr Laby Astros Wyndz Suzu Abu Rinto!Slot Logic |
Suzune-chan said: Fo said: At this very instant, Laby-Gaga is.Suz who's scum? Edit: Also possibly grapefruit The fact that you're scum reading me largely for blowing the secret is a huge part of why I'm scum reading you fwiw. Your progression doesn't make any sense to me. |
Fo said: visibility concern because I've seen it as a scum partner recently but I've also seen it in his town game. From my PoV a shy player trying to learn the game and find hid footing but he's always behind. Feels like a newer player acc hard for be too nail down here with such little content but as for the current behavior is NAI to me.logic340 said: They participated technically; but it pinged me slightly for just how useless the participation was. Why is it you chose not to participate in RVS? Sorta like a "i'm here but not [i]really[/i[ here kinda thing which you see from scum more than town and that part of it I sorta chalked up to maybe just unfamiliar with the crowd kind of the new guy not sure where to get a footing but it does seem as if abu said he's played a few games here.. Curious to see if he actually gets around to providing some real content 3 games with Abu prior to this. All of them pretty much the same behavior. Vote pressure will get him active but it could lead to a mislynch as easily as a lynch on new mafia. We should all try to converse/engage with him? I was scum he was town Sailor Moon I was town he was town Stray Dogs I was scum he was scum Easter Egg |
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Grapefruit21 said: What about it does not make sense? Perhaps I can clear it up for you. I have been reading the topic all day, I think the progression is quite natural. It first I was humored by you, then you did some things I thought were questionable, then you continued to fight over the things that initially humored me, and now you want to know what I think and I am left with not a very good opinion on your stance this game however, since you opinion of you stems from how you handle things that appear in the topic and not on what you say, I cannot lynch you today because I want that intuition feeling I get too before I seal that. I am missing the obvious motive, so I ponder it. Suzune-chan said: At this very instant, Laby-Gaga is. Edit: Also possibly grapefruit The fact that you're scum reading me largely for blowing the secret is a huge part of why I'm scum reading you fwiw. Your progression doesn't make any sense to me. Edit: Basically I think you wasted a couple of good opportunities and see stuck on past things instead of looking forward. |
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Grapefruit21 said: Suzune-chan said: At this very instant, Laby-Gaga is. Edit: Also possibly grapefruit The fact that you're scum reading me largely for blowing the secret is a huge part of why I'm scum reading you fwiw. Your progression doesn't make any sense to me. It is okay grape, we can catch her tomorrow. Once I check her she would have no place to run and she will have to surrender. |
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Grapefruit21 said: I have been scum reading you for the same reason though. Because they are not just a mafia traps they can help get reads on townies as well? It's exactly what I said to Gruffin earlier on page 2 about letting things happen organically? Suzune-chan said: At this very instant, Laby-Gaga is. Edit: Also possibly grapefruit The fact that you're scum reading me largely for blowing the secret is a huge part of why I'm scum reading you fwiw. Your progression doesn't make any sense to me. |
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grrr said: I guess I'm losing my edge *shrugs*I wonna poke something. I already poked logic but he is no fun. Suzune will be poked tomorrow. I think I can poke gruffin today. Gruffin we can lynch you today and tomorrow we can lynch someone else. vote: gruffin |
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Fo said: Fine I will find myself other sheep. grrr said: You should know I don't sheep pally@Fo since we are both town I guess you can just sheep my votes. As long as we help each other we wont get lynched. |
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| @Suzune-Chan that wasn't super clarifying but since you want to see more I'll let it be. @logic340 495 doesn't make any sense to me. Can you rephase it. @grrr what do you think of CorruptedPurity now? And yup sounds good. |
Grapefruit21 said: I'm getting prison mafia vibes from you and I pushed you really hard and then got blindsided by figuring out it was logic too late. Therefore, I want to stay out of that kind of direct conflict with you, because I get obsessed with our discussion that I lose focus in other places and only realize to late that I was wrong.@Suzune-Chan that wasn't super clarifying but since you want to see more I'll let it be. @logic340 495 doesn't make any sense to me. Can you rephase it. @grrr what do you think of CorruptedPurity now? And yup sounds good. |
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Ruu said: Super mixed on this ruu post. On the one hand hey at least it's some content from someone who hadn't really given any content up until this point so thumbs up there I guess. I'm responding as I read btw @Gruffin I joined the game at 1 am so I just wanted to read what was going on, I didn't want to be MIA for so many hours. I still don't get what was the point of asking togs. Did it worked? @Togs If you are townreading grape why are you still okay with your vote on him? this makes no sense. What's up with this claims?! First grr and now Rinto? this is so... bizarre. I don't know what to think. Claiming so early makes no sense. I understand why grrr would do it, but Rinto? I don't believe grrr's but I can't figure out if Rinto is also bluffing or just trying to make people believe he is lying so they won't bother him. @CorruptedPurity I think Rinto passed the test? I think his answer was correct. @Laby-Gaga (#166) I consider my vote on grrr rvs because I don't have a real reason to vote for him. He could be lying about his claim but that doesn't mean he is town nor mafia. Like I said, I was planning to vote for him or Fo during rvs but grrr has being meaner to me so he got the vote >_> (#169) mmm I think I don't understand your question. Can you rephrase it? Also what the hell? @CorruptedPurity I get why you are so confused. I'm so confused right now. SO MANY CLAIMS, STOP IT! I DON'T KNOW WHO TO BELIEVE! @WyNdZ (#207) because I don't think grrr would claim if he really had that role. Still catching up Question to gruffin is alright on a surface level but I'd need to relook at the exchange to see if there was anything vague in gruff's reply about why they asked togs specifically I recall that being clear (albeit wordy). Question to togs is okay but does tread on too much benefit of the doubt territory and doesn't really give a stance so gonna look for followup on that. Reaction to the claims is kinda all over the place; like yes the concesus had already agreed that for grrr it was forgivable because he's grrr (and btw the concesus was wrong there grrr wasn't town for the claim it was for his thought process behind the claim: Not wanting the doc to waste his save on CP when he's a cop and needs it more is something that I can follow but don't really agree with) which rinto, who I'm currently voting *hint hint* lacked completely. @Ruu so why is it surprising to you the difference in a lot of the players reactions to the claims when you yourself seem to have touched on some of what made them different? Do you think grrr is scum? |
grrr said: Hm...Reaction post? In that case I don't think you're going to gain as much from this as you would from reading my posts. I wonna poke something. I already poked logic but he is no fun. Suzune will be poked tomorrow. I think I can poke gruffin today. Gruffin we can lynch you today and tomorrow we can lynch someone else. vote: gruffin |
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| thank you for doing this..I can totally see where you're coming from now but being that I see things a bit differently than you do it's just an agree to disagree type situation. You know what I do when I see something out of the ordinary? I jump on it instead of paying with it and keeping it close to my chest. I tell what in thinking in a very direct manner. You've been there you know this? We did know about the countermeasures the host took as it was discussed in the sign up thread Rinto asked. You gain back a little tired equity as I kind of agree with Gruffin that this feels somewhat similar to SM where you tried yo use mechanic to catch scum early. As I started it's a good place for scum to hide (as I like time hide in it as scum). |
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WyNdZ said: Still scum^PentaFlare said: Going to post an explanation of what everything means in a second since I haven't used this type of vote count before. Voting lists looks messy with all of those crosses Grapefruit21 said: @logic340 I still have strong suspicions on Astros and to a lesser extent Abu, I just think that we caught scum through flavor and moved my vote accordingly. Curious what are your reasons for suspecting them. AbuHumaid said: catching up You've barely posted at all. Reminds me of the last game where you were inactive and then flipped scum. Do I have to place my vote on you again to get your attention Vote AbuHumaid I'd like your thoughts on the state of the game so far |
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