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May 23, 2016 3:51 AM

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...Wait, there's already a HF forum? I think I'll migrate there.

Thanks for answering, comrade.
Nov 1, 2016 5:55 PM

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I hope shiro doesn't change the future and gets fucked.

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But my feels.
Nov 15, 2016 10:55 AM
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Surprise??? Not...until now the plot is very simple :(
Jan 25, 2017 5:32 PM

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Glad i wasnt spoiled, even tough i kinda called it
Really good episode!
Mar 26, 2017 8:28 AM

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Didn't know servants could also be from the future, so Archer is future Shirou or...? :/
Mar 26, 2017 10:33 AM

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Didn't know servants could also be from the future, so Archer is future Shirou or...? :/


Yes. Yes, he is.

bitch 30 characters wtf
May 15, 2017 6:16 AM

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Archer being future Shirou was a surprise.

May 29, 2017 12:38 AM

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Great episode!!

Finally Rin got her wish and got Saber!!!

Unlimited Blade Works!! Yeah the whole when Shirou came running towards Archer and it became over quickly. Damn it, they showed it on VN game, but not on Anime form :(

Wow! So that's why Rin was getting pissed on how Archer and Shirou are very similar to one another. When he said Trace on as well as both of them uses daggers, it pretty much hinted that Archer is Shirou from the future. But what kind of future? Doubt Shirou was in the ages where war was being rage non-stop.

I'm guessing he's an alternative future self, where he gave up on humanity. It kinda reminds me on what happened to Kiritsugu towards the end of Zero.

Lancer is slowly becoming my favorite! The Zero version was okay, but UBW one is so much better!

I want to see Archer vs Gilgamesh! They have similar way of summoning swords from the past and all. Maybe that's why Gilgamesh called him "faker"??

It was rush, but I really love the animation and fight scenes. Wish they remake it again on a movie, but they would rather focus on sequels etc.

Can't wait for the next episode!!
Jul 6, 2017 8:14 AM

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That title drop!
Archer is Shirou 1000%

Jul 10, 2017 6:54 PM

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So Archer = future Shirou? Interesting, I had figured at this point that there was some kind of connection. Considering there's 7 episode left, I presume we still have some more overarching plot to go with Gilgamesh and Kirei having some grander plot. Plus, we still don't know who Lancer's master is. I wonder if somehow, Shirou has Archer become his servant to stop Gilgamesh and Kirei.
Sep 24, 2017 9:10 AM

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As a non-VN reader, the last few eps seem rushed as hell to me. I wonder if that's really necessary since there are 7 eps left.
Sep 17, 2018 1:51 AM

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Basically, Shirou = Archer eh? Why don't I remember that that was the case from the first F/SN? As well as Rin being Saber's master hmm.. Meh ~ I might just watch it again for reference sake

Well no use brooding. Moving on!
Mar 24, 2019 8:58 AM
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Did Shinji just imply that he wants to force himself upon Toosaka?
That guy is so sick in his head. Makes me wonder how he even got through school so far without being admitted to a psychiatry.

And now that I think about it, we haven't seen Sakura in ages. IIRC she said she wouldn't be able to come over to Emiyas place for a while, but she didn't appear even once after that incident at school where everyone fainted. And since she isn't in the character list of the 2nd season, I guess we won't see her again.

Looks like she didn't get that much screentime in this route, although it looked like that she has a crush on Emiya.
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May 8, 2019 2:22 PM

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Wait did Rin get all 3 command spells back? The rules for this are really really weird. Lose a servant, get a new one, lose a master, get a new one, lose your command spells, just make a new contract.

So Archer is competing with Gil-kun for the position of biggest dick of the show.

And I guess Sakura is Lancers master.
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Jun 17, 2019 7:26 AM

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Seems everyone figured already Archer's identity. That narration by Rin pretty much revealed it. Still, can't tell if Archer really can't tell his real name to Rin because he forgot it or don't wanna tell her.

Probably this timeline will change due to Archer's termination, had Archer not interfere, Shirou will not return the pendant I guess. That explains why Archer had it, or he rob it from Rin in other timeline? lol.
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Jul 5, 2019 6:51 AM

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So, Archer = future Shirou.

Oh no, Shinji is going to rape Rin.
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Sep 29, 2019 12:53 AM

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well that was something...is archer an alter ego of Shiro or something...damn this series gets more and more interesting
Feb 11, 2020 10:08 AM

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ibraheem234 said:
well that was something...is archer an alter ego of Shiro or something...damn this series gets more and more interesting


Right, from the future. This is heating up for sure.

Let's be honest though, Archer was one easy swipe away from taking his life this episode. *rolls eyes*
Dec 6, 2020 9:19 PM

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man I pray I don’t see rape next episode, I already saw plenty of rape in Kara no Kyoukai.
Dec 19, 2020 6:26 PM

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Archer is basically the future Shirou that wanted to save everybody's life. I Hope Rin doesn't go to Shinji cause fuck that guy. He's only in the war because he has Gilgadaddy.
Jan 22, 2021 5:40 PM
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liked the ep, came here to read stuff but nothing but the book was better comments, unfair and a big miss..
Aug 1, 2021 6:08 AM
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THAT'S WHY THERE SHOULD BE ONLY ONE PENDANT!

Holy Crap I can't believe I didn't figure it out. I really suck. That was a really great reveal, something that actually fucking slaps.
Aug 23, 2021 1:00 PM

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I predicted the Archer thing but I don't think it was meant to be hidden. Those eyebrows were the main giveaway, haha.
"Faker."
Wasn't that bad an episode for me as someone who hasn't read the VN but from all this discussion on the first page, at least, I feel maybe I should read it someday. This series isn't nearly as strong as Fate/zero but has some stuff that's still good.
Oct 23, 2021 1:03 PM
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Pretty good episode.

Poor Archer. He is the result of Shirou saving everyone :(

Lancer comes to help out again
Nov 3, 2021 4:11 PM

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OMG!!! Archer story is really a sad one !!! I liked the second season how it really drove the events till now.
I am motivated for the next episode.
Jun 19, 2022 3:05 PM
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Shirou painfully reminds me so much of Suzaku Kururugi from Code geass.... self righteous ppl who see the world in black and white. the most annoying and irritating characters possible
Sep 1, 2022 1:18 PM
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I AM THE BONE OF MY SWORD
Sep 5, 2022 3:13 PM
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From watching this anime without having it spoiled(?) by the VN, it doesn't seem to me like Archer really wants to kill Shirou. He could have easily done it before, for example when he was escorting him through the town on Rin's orders, as well as on other occasions. Even at the Ryuudou temple, he could've killed Shirou with the surprise attack or at least held him down if he couldn't let go of the pointless monologuing. Instead he let Shirou crawl and then be protected by Koujirou.
Or he could've shot swords at him at the same time he shot Caster or something, it's quite obvious to me.
If it turns out not to be true, I don't know if my suspension of disbelief will endure that.
Nov 16, 2022 8:12 PM

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Damn shiro lost saber aswell


Mar 3, 2023 2:58 PM
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This story would've turned out very differently had Archer been just a LITTLE faster on just ONE of THREE separate occasions: 

1. Killing Saber before getting interrupted by Shirou
2. Killing Shirou before getting interrupted by Rin
3. Killing Rin before she finishes her incantation speech

Ok besides the fact that Archer kind of just stands there and allows Rin to say the full speech that makes Saber her servant (which I totally forgot happens by the way, and I totally dig it), I guess that can just, happen, no overseer needed? That's convenient and all, but then why didn't Rin or Shirou try to claim Archer as well, who's also now without a master? Is it because they were mad at him for trying to kill them? Is it because both sides need consent? Well that makes sense I guess, consent is very cool after all. Still, Archer's reaction time was total ass. He deserved to get beat down by Saber by how slow he responded to the situation.

Anyway, that's not the important part of this episode. What is important is that it looks like we've finally been officially been told who Archer is- and I still don't fully get it. From what I understand, he is Shirou's future self, still dead set in helping and saving people, but for some reason was betrayed or just failed to carry out his ideals, and instead of fully dying, was somehow granted the becoming of a heroic spirit, and was able to enter different eras and such, still trying to help people I guess? But I guess that never worked out, and now that he has found himself in the same era as his past self, he's going to take it upon himself to end it all so that none of his life ever happens. I'm sure that's not exactly how it is or that there's more to it, but that's what I've always understood at least. I still don't get the whole thing with his reality marble and all his weapons though. Is it meant to suggest that he lost his way somewhere along his path of helping people, ending up killing for the greater good, becoming someone like Kiritsugu was? I'll have to watch an "UBW explained" video later if I can find a good one, because who Archer is is kind of the centrepiece of this whole route. 


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Jun 28, 2023 7:41 PM
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I'm still not entirely sure why Shinji is such a garbage man.
Aug 13, 2023 9:21 PM
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Extremely rushed, but oh well
- Shirou can hold his own in a fight with Archer, nice
- Rin contracts with Saber! We might actually get to see Saber at full power like in Zero
- I don’t get the hate for the unlimited blade works scene. Shirou is so badass destroying all those swords.
- He kidnapped Rin :(
- YEAHHH baby I was right from the original DEEN show, Shirou is Archer.
- So I guess those flashbacks from long ago just mean he has been summoned throughout time despite him being from the future. Got it.
- Rin is right, life simply was never fair for Archer :(
- Shinji is such a creep ew.
Feb 1, 7:37 PM

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Overall decent episode, i do feel bad for Archer/Shirou cause of his whole ideal that was implemented in him.

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