| So I read this really retarded Youtube comment recently: I get that this is pretty extreme and doesn't represent the entire anime community, but it really got me thinking. Sometimes I just get the feeling that anime fans dislike strong fictional females. If you look at battle shounen series with female protagonists (fan service shows excluded, so half naked women don't count), there aren't really a whole lot: Claymore, Soul Eater, JoJo Part 6 Stone Ocean and that's pretty much it. Maybe you know a few others, but you can't deny that the amount of anime/manga with action girls is pretty low. When it comes to all-female casts, then you really only got Claymore and nothing else. Is there really no demand for series like this? I do realize that shounen are targeted at boys. However manga like Hxh or One Piece have in reality a relatively broad audience of all genders and ages (especially in Japan). It's not like these kinds of manga wouldn't sell well, because some 8 year old boys would be like "ewww girls". Also most moe manga like K-On are also targeted at guys (either shounen or seinen). So the demographic is hardly a good argument and shouldn't hold back creators from writing more tough female characters, right? Of course there are some great series with a male MC, that also happen to have good female support characters (for example NGE or Gintama). But female protagonists in these kind of series are still super rare, which pisses me off to no end, especially since only very few people seem to care about this issue. Do you think I'm exaggerating or can you relate to my displeasure? |
| Those are the ppl that in real life say "Women are just for the kitchen". Get ur shit together guys as if it's something strange to have strong females, I personally think it doesn't matter at all what gender the main character is, actually I find it kinda sad that there aren't more animes representing strong female mc's like Claymore and such, well maybe there are but I just need to dig deeper and find them. And I've got no idea why would someone hate on that, it's simply the same.. |
| no, i dont hate them but i prefer cute ones over strong ones :3 |
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| i love cross ange it's the best anime in the history |
Cross  AngeHey guys check my profile for current airing season anime recommendation (guaranteed best taste) |
This says it all. For me, strong character can only be strong, and there's no room for feminine side to kick-in. If I'm in a mood, I'd watch something with that kind of stuff, but in general, I'd bet on the ones I do know I am comfortable of, which is kawaii imouto. |
is there a reason why we can't...have both |
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| Honestly I wonder if working out from those batle shounen stuff and generally seinen stuff might be one possibility. Sure, you've got some shows that have obnoxious amounts of fanservice, but on the other hand you get stuff like the Nanoha series, some of whose characters I can actually see as role models for children, even. But yeah, I'm open to a good series with an awesome character who happens to be female. I mean, I think one reason I watch school battle harem stuff is because, as much as the romance and fanservice parts aren't what I'm looking for, at least I get to imagine what if the male lead weren't there and you just had the (generally more interesting) female characters driving the action. Not ideal, but hey, still interesting. More interesting than just watching a thing for which I have no personal creative investment at least! Edit: Yeah, Cross Ange is a curious instance. Unfortunately I haven't gotten around to watching more of it yet. |
| Avatar character is Gabriel from Gabriel DropOut. |
| Strong female characters are great. Most of my favourite anime have a strong female lead. Weak females aren't as interesting and in my opinion aren't as attractive either. There's a good reason why characters like Kurisu, Misaka, and Holo are considered better waifus than girls who don't do as much. |
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_Ako_ said: This says it all. For me, strong character can only be strong, and there's no room for feminine side to kick-in. If I'm in a mood, I'd watch something with that kind of stuff, but in general, I'd bet on the ones I do know I am comfortable of, which is kawaii imouto. Fujiko is a strong woman and i don't think she lacks on the feminine side :D |
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Because all you have to do it ignore the rest except for the thread title. xD Johnnyd3rp said: _Ako_ said: This says it all. For me, strong character can only be strong, and there's no room for feminine side to kick-in. If I'm in a mood, I'd watch something with that kind of stuff, but in general, I'd bet on the ones I do know I am comfortable of, which is kawaii imouto. Fujiko is a strong woman and i don't think she lacks on the feminine side :D Now that you have said it, some exceptions are indeed there. Yuuko is also there, she is smart and knowledgeable about the stuff that revolves in the yokai world, how to counter them and stuff like that. But hey, her oppai is 11/10...xD EDIT: But who doesn't like Yuuko though? xD |
| Nope, they're pretty amazing if done right. However, if it's just a girl dressed like a hooker, fighting for the sake of her tits jiggling around and so she can be put in sexually provocative poses, then yea they fucking suck. |
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| I'll just take 110% angry Ange instead. No need to care for femininity. |
| Avatar character is Gabriel from Gabriel DropOut. |
| I dislike them if they are displayed and treated by the creators as a sex icon and not a badass fighter. |
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JonasTheJay said: So I read this really retarded Youtube comment recently: I get that this is pretty extreme and doesn't represent the entire anime community, but it really got me thinking. Sometimes I just get the feeling that anime fans dislike strong fictional females. If you look at battle shounen series with female protagonists (fan service shows excluded, so half naked women don't count), there aren't really a whole lot: Claymore, Soul Eater, JoJo Part 6 Stone Ocean and that's pretty much it. Maybe you know a few others, but you can't deny that the amount of anime/manga with action girls is pretty low. When it comes to all-female casts, then you really only got Claymore and nothing else. Is there really no demand for series like this? I do realize that shounen are targeted at boys. However manga like Hxh or One Piece have in reality a relatively broad audience of all genders and ages (especially in Japan). It's not like these kinds of manga wouldn't sell well, because some 8 year old boys would be like "ewww girls". Also most moe manga like K-On are also targeted at guys (either shounen or seinen). So the demographic is hardly a good argument and shouldn't hold back creators from writing more tough female characters, right? Of course there are some great series with a male MC, that also happen to have good female support characters (for example NGE or Gintama). But female protagonists in these kind of series are still super rare, which pisses me off to no end, especially since only very few people seem to care about this issue. Do you think I'm exaggerating or can you relate to my displeasure? I don't think female MC's is less important than males, there is just more anime with male MC's/Heroes because that's just the standard way for a story lol :3 Still there is strong Female MC's that does make the anime enjoyable :3 Saber from Fate/Zero, Akame from Akame ga Kill, Madoka (actually there is only girls so meh), Sakura (I dislike her character but she is after all also strong) and let's not forget Erza from Fairy Tail ;3 If the story is good it doesn't matter what gender the MC is, as long as their are unique with character development :3 |
"No matter what painful things happens, even when it looks like you'll lose... when no one else in the world believes in you... when you don't even believe in yourself... I will believe in you!" |
| Watch some magical girl anime and anime like Girls und Panzer, Railgun, and Serial Experiments Lain to see some great strong female characters. |
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| I sure don't. Something about them being older with a side of "ara ara" just gets me going. |
CabronDec 14, 2016 4:55 PM
Please learn about cel animation and its technical process. Learn how special effects and backlighting were done without computers. |
| i, personally, would gladly be fisted by every single strong female character until my asshole explodes, permanently rendering me into a coma |
bucketofwormsDec 14, 2016 4:47 PM
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| I only like them if they're done well, such as Erza from Fairy Tail. I only like the ones that are tough too lol Though I really dislike the ones that are supposed to be cute and OP like when they flash their tsundere boobs around while fighting its not really interesting to me. I do like badass op male characters tho |
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zombie_pegasus said: Watch some magical girl anime and anime like Girls und Panzer, Railgun, and Serial Experiments Lain to see some great strong female characters. Also the Nanoha series. I love that series. |
| Avatar character is Gabriel from Gabriel DropOut. |
| yes! mostly. I'm having trouble watching medaka box, because medaka always got beaten shit until she got hospitalized, it's frustrating :D lol. but shes strong. also freezing. but kara no kyoukai and Black lagoon is another story. they are badass. |
The world is cruel, ugly and pitiful. Let's watch anime and make it colorful |
| The best bit to me is "this isn't sexist, I just write freely whatever crosses my mind, so it can't be sexist" :D edit - thought to comment on his Monkey D. Ruffy avatar, decided against it, and only now see mkim already covered that. nice. /edit ---------------------- lol, found me a new sig... I know Ako that you are drunk 90% of the time but the hell are you talking about? |
BannoBunka_snorkDec 14, 2016 5:04 PM
| *darn, using my right hand is off-limits for a while. Typing with my left hand only is ... eww.* |
| first of all... FUCK HIM Strong female characters are the best, my prefrence, and girls fighting/who can fight are my fetish, ecchi can only make it that much better maybe this motherfucker should realize that some ppl are really into that.. i mean, thats kinda why those shows get made i do believe though that there is a stigma against those kinds of characters, but then again, anytime girls body parts fill half the screen ppl start whining |
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JonasTheJay said: So I read this really retarded Youtube comment recently: I get that this is pretty extreme and doesn't represent the entire anime community, but it really got me thinking. Sometimes I just get the feeling that anime fans dislike strong fictional females. If you look at battle shounen series with female protagonists (fan service shows excluded, so half naked women don't count), there aren't really a whole lot: Claymore, Soul Eater, JoJo Part 6 Stone Ocean and that's pretty much it. Maybe you know a few others, but you can't deny that the amount of anime/manga with action girls is pretty low. When it comes to all-female casts, then you really only got Claymore and nothing else. Is there really no demand for series like this? I do realize that shounen are targeted at boys. However manga like Hxh or One Piece have in reality a relatively broad audience of all genders and ages (especially in Japan). It's not like these kinds of manga wouldn't sell well, because some 8 year old boys would be like "ewww girls". Also most moe manga like K-On are also targeted at guys (either shounen or seinen). So the demographic is hardly a good argument and shouldn't hold back creators from writing more tough female characters, right? Of course there are some great series with a male MC, that also happen to have good female support characters (for example NGE or Gintama). But female protagonists in these kind of series are still super rare, which pisses me off to no end, especially since only very few people seem to care about this issue. Do you think I'm exaggerating or can you relate to my displeasure? Gonna love how you don't think female characters from fan service shoews don't count Lol who the real sexist |
DoctorSexyDec 14, 2016 5:57 PM
| What's more annoying are the people who think all women characters have to be the "STRONG FEMALE CHARACTER" who don't need to no help from no man. *snap snap snap* Usually those people are the type to label others with sexist and misogynist. |
| inb4 SJW's lmao @cherrylover edit: what have I done :0 |
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| Isn't asking for a "Shounen" (a word that literally means "young boy") to be female centric a little silly? Generally these shows are power fantasies for young men, who project themselves onto these shows' powerful heroes and thereby achieve wish fulfillment. Specifically "shounen" action shows, therefore, will probably never have that many female protagonists. A lack of female main characters might also result from the preponderance of males in the industry, but that is just a guess. But Shounen shows are one thing, and saying that anime fans hate "strong female characters" is another thing entirely. You brought up yourself examples of strong female characters in Anime. Look at Misato, Rei, Asuka, and even Ritsuko from Evangelion, all very memorable, strong, human characters who happen to be female. Other more adult-focused shows like Serial Experiments Lain, Cowboy Bebop, Berserk, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex, Psycho Pass, etc. have always had good female characters as part of the main cast (and about half the shows I listed have female protagonists). So no, I don't think anime fans hate strong female characters. Perhaps some of them from that younger male demographic to whom these Shounen shows are targeted haven't outgrown childish views on gender yet, but I think the community of fans more generally really loves them. |
| Why use the word hate in the title? I honestly don't care about the gender so Im not going to demand more female characters for a certain type of genre that I watch I don't think this is a hate problem I just think for the most part people don't really care enough to change the status quo of things since it doesn't really matter unless its a very personal issue for certain individuals |
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You just brought us a lot of bitching :( |
| Nope, not at all. It can be jarring if the whole fighting half-naked was just an excuse for a lot bounciness or moe but even then, if I don't like it, I don't watch it. What I actually hate with strong female characters is when they aren't i.e. Sakura learning super strength so now she is able to be useful: acquiring a new power =/= character development |
| Yes i very hate those females character who are stronger than the males unless if the male isnt the main character |
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| Well this one doesn't hate them at all. My favorites are full of physically or mentally strong characters or shows that have them. |
| "Laws exist only for those who cannot live without clinging onto them." -Souske Aizen "Bleach"  |
| I for one really appreciate an anime with strong female characters I think I enjoyed Claymore as much as I did because it had a strong female lead and other important female characters without a Cinderella complex. It's so rare you get an action show like that where women are in the spotlight (outside of maybe a single character). Another example of a female character I admire is Kurisu from Steins;Gate -- she's a capable and independent woman who uses her intellect to succeed. |
| I don't hate those characters at all, i may even prefer strong female characters rather than male, like in black lagoon or Gunnm *-* . |
| People just want their waifus or husband at attempts at good writing is looked as," Boring" or "2 deep 4 me." You shouldn't ask if they hate strong female characters you should ask if they hate well written and developed characters. I have seen people tell me it doesn't matter how bad the female characters are in harem anime just need to make sure they look good. |
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EcchiLordMamster said: Says the Keijo fan.............first of all... FUCK HIM Strong female characters are the best, my prefrence, and girls fighting/who can fight are my fetish, ecchi can only make it that much better maybe this motherfucker should realize that some ppl are really into that.. i mean, thats kinda why those shows get made i do believe though that there is a stigma against those kinds of characters, but then again, anytime girls body parts fill half the screen ppl start whining *satima face* :D |
| I haven't updated in years but now I have changed that. I'll be free soon. |
| I like strong female characters that aren't overly bitchy and try and beat up every person they see be it good or bad. Terra > Lighting Come at me |
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| Some people are still stuck in time....OR that guy is actually a 45 yr old :-P With the rise of a main female character in all forms of media, it won't be far till people stop getting "distracted" I believe....it would take just! another generation more till everyone sees an equally strong female MC as normal |
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EcchiLordMamster said: first of all... FUCK HIM Strong female characters are the best, my prefrence, and girls fighting/who can fight are my fetish, ecchi can only make it that much better maybe this motherfucker should realize that some ppl are really into that.. i mean, thats kinda why those shows get made i do believe though that there is a stigma against those kinds of characters, but then again, anytime girls body parts fill half the screen ppl start whining Yeah right! And speaking of evidence, has somebody mentioned top female characters? https://myanimelist.net/character.php Gasai Yuno (#11 overall) is the best fighter of the series, she has the biggest kill count, and she is totally Badass. Makise Kurisu (#12) isn't like that, it seems. I've yet to finish Steins;Gate. Aisaka, Taiga (#18) is small, fierce and the best fighter of the series. While remaining moe, because this isn't an anime about fighting. Senjougahara, Hitagi (#23) - no idea. Holo (#24) - once again, the strongest fighter in the series that isn't about fighting. Saber (#27) - It's arguable if she is the strongest, but she's definitely an Epic fighter. Suzumiya, Haruhi (#32) - no fighting there. Yuuki, Asuna (#36) - strong fighter and main love interest. I would say her appeal is that she is very feminine, yet very capable, both in a fight and out of it. Izumi, Konata (#40) - no fighting there. C.C. (#42) - no idea. Scarlet, Erza (#43) - the strongest fighter in the series. At least as far as I bothered to watch Fairy Tail. Akemi, Homura (#44) - strong fighter. No idea if she is the strongest. Oshino, Shinobu (#46) - no idea. Lucy (#47) - get a kill count like Yuno in the first half-episode of the series. It probably goes on from there, but I dropped. Revy (#49) - the strongest fighter in the series and total badass. Souryuu, Asuka Langley (#50) - she might not be the best EVA pilot, but she's definitely the most hot-blooded one. Yes, fans love female characters who are good in a fight. There is a lot more of them in the top than in anime as a whole. |
| Well, some people grow up like that, with gender roles deeply imprinted on their minds. But hey, he's not sexist right? I like strong female leads, especially mentally strong ones. |
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