Kagami said: Nunnally03 said: That's really something.... I think they do that because they think it will be cool if people think they watched too many anime. You may not believe me, but there are really people out there who think that being called "otaku" is cool. Nothing wrong with liking and wanting completions, but only if they're normal completions. Some guy with 200 completions > Some guy with 500 completions who does this. Huh? Did I said anything about people who like and want completions? I myself have completed a lot of anime..so I do not get what you mean? I am replying to TS about those who watch anime 2x speed - simply because they think it's cool being otaku. |
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| wtf????i thought everyone here watches anime at 2X speed.You disgust me,normie like you should vanish from MAL. |
| Watching something at 2x speed for the sake of completion is just sad. |
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Cireph said: If the anime's pacing is too slow and the plot is just boring I guess. Tbh, I would just drop the anime if it's like that so idk why people would still continue watching. Maybe for anime completion rate? I think a lot of people do it for quicker completions and its really sad. |
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Mayuka said: I don't use VLC. I use MPC-HC 'cause of the filters, so I'm not sure if it has pitch change.Tyrel said: Not if pitch isn't changed? VLC lets you speed up without affect pitch at all.Sounds dumb tbh. 2x Speed you can't even make out the characters dialogue because it turns to gibberish. |
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Kagami said: you sure like to repeat that hot opinion dontchaCireph said: If the anime's pacing is too slow and the plot is just boring I guess. Tbh, I would just drop the anime if it's like that so idk why people would still continue watching. Maybe for anime completion rate? I think a lot of people do it for quicker completions and its really sad. |
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Tyrel said: I've tried MPC and it changes pitch, yeah. That's why I mostly use VLC because it's better at speeding up.Mayuka said: I don't use VLC. I use MPC-HC 'cause of the filters, so I'm not sure if it has pitch change.Not if pitch isn't changed? VLC lets you speed up without affect pitch at all. |
romagia said: you sure like to repeat that hot opinion dontcha Damn straight. I speak the hot truth. |
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| People actually does that? I didn't know that was a thing. That seems completely stupid and I will rather drop it than watching it in 2x speed. |
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gwendal738 said: Bobby2Hands said: Nah suck it up pussy, you started a god awful series, now you have to take your medicine and finish it. Nobody likes a quitter. Lol you say that like I care about other people's opinion on how I watch anime and how I do things. I am not going to sit through god awful series and waste my time that I could use to watch other anime more worthy of my time. Weird. You're saying you'd be wasting your time by watching the last two episodes at a normal pace, but isn't also true you had a choice getting that far in an anime that you obviously felt was a waste of time? I say suck it up and finish the series normally or don't watch it if you were wasting your time on your own decision. A lot of whining I hear when its clearly all your fault. I have never felt like I wasted my time watching an anime, even one I disliked. |
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| Naruto Shippuuden filler episodes are a great example of episodes where some people might consider watching it 1.5 or 2x. |
Hyuukichan123 said: but what if the answer is yes?cjkira99 said: Naruto Shippuuden filler episodes are a great example of episodes where watching it at 2x might be warranted. But what's the point? You might as well fast forward if you aren't going to pay attention to certain scenes. Watching at x2 the speed doesn't make time go any faster then what you would on normal speed. In fact I find that watching videos at x2 the speed slows down your time of perception. Where as watching normally I lose track of time or time appears to move more quickly. Because you're actually immersed in the show rather then skipping over parts or speed watching. Basically people who watch anime above normal speed are less likely to retain the information that is received through watching the episodes. Because your brain can't keep up to par with processing and digesting the information youve received from watching the show. Hasent anyone learned from the tortoise and the hare parable? Fast doesn't always mean better! Just because you sped through a series doesn't give you any reward or bragging rights in fact it just tells people you're more concerned about getting things done quickly rather then taking the time to check for quality. You saved 5mins by watching x2 speed? Good for you! But did you get any enjoyment out of those extra mins or watching the episode x2 SPD? If the answers no then what's the fucking point of speeding it up if you aren't going to fucking enjoy it? If you hate the show then dont fucking watch it. Sorry most of this salt isn't meant for you its more so for everyone in this discussion in general. So don't feel like I'm targeting you its not meant to be directed solely towards you. this is looking a bit like a ken m skit |
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Quequel said: Never did that either, I would never be able to keep up with subtitles, if I actually like a show, I like the fillers too, most of the time they are funny and Ilove to laugh In fact, I often have to pause/ rewind because of the subs, so in the end its probably x0.75 speed for me. |
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Hyuukichan123 said: romagia said: Does it really matter? Good for them if they enjoy watching it at that speed. But it seriously pisses me off that anyone would remotely think that watching things at double or quadruple the speed is enjoyable because even the sound of it just makes my stomach churn. If you divert your attention for even a split second you miss like half of what people are saying. And at that point its a lost cause trying to catch up unless you slow down and stop to listen closely. And if you aren't even going to take the time to watch a show normally then dont watch things at all because it's something you have to dedicate your time to its not something you can be like "Oh I just want to dip my toes in I'm not going in all the way." You have to either be really invested into it or gtfo because people will chew you out for trying to pretend like you've seen a series but you really weren't interested in it. Also in my opinion speeding things up just makes you out to be a person who has patience issues or a very short attention span. Even I (a person who suffers from autism, OCD and ADHD) understand that being quick about things isn't always the best thing to do unless the task requires you to be quick on your feet and quick in problem solving. And I just don't see watching anime at x2 the SPD to be one of those situations. It takes the "enjoyment" purpose out of it and replaces it with this "empty" feeling as if you're just doing it to get rid of it rather then spending the time you have enjoying yourself. You're treating it like it's a chore rather then a passion/for fun.but what if the answer is yes? this is looking a bit like a ken m skit I think I've realized even more than ever that the anime community has changed for the worse in some areas. The "Can watch 2x the anime in 2x the speed" is a laughable way to justify the actions of watching anime at 2x the speed. Like it has been said many times, some people care more about a number than their actual experience watching anime. Though, watching an anime at 2x still in my opinion is a psuedo completion and is a gross habit. |
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Kagami said: if you ask me, even worse is this "holier than thou" attitude, being so negative over a minority of anime fans, and wanton generalizationsHyuukichan123 said: Does it really matter? Good for them if they enjoy watching it at that speed. But it seriously pisses me off that anyone would remotely think that watching things at double or quadruple the speed is enjoyable because even the sound of it just makes my stomach churn. If you divert your attention for even a split second you miss like half of what people are saying. And at that point its a lost cause trying to catch up unless you slow down and stop to listen closely. And if you aren't even going to take the time to watch a show normally then dont watch things at all because it's something you have to dedicate your time to its not something you can be like "Oh I just want to dip my toes in I'm not going in all the way." You have to either be really invested into it or gtfo because people will chew you out for trying to pretend like you've seen a series but you really weren't interested in it. Also in my opinion speeding things up just makes you out to be a person who has patience issues or a very short attention span. Even I (a person who suffers from autism, OCD and ADHD) understand that being quick about things isn't always the best thing to do unless the task requires you to be quick on your feet and quick in problem solving. And I just don't see watching anime at x2 the SPD to be one of those situations. It takes the "enjoyment" purpose out of it and replaces it with this "empty" feeling as if you're just doing it to get rid of it rather then spending the time you have enjoying yourself. You're treating it like it's a chore rather then a passion/for fun. I think I've realized even more than ever that the anime community has changed for the worse in some areas. The "Can watch 2x the anime in 2x the speed" is a laughable way to justify the actions of watching anime at 2x the speed. Like it has been said many times, some people care more about a number than their actual experience watching anime. Though, watching an anime at 2x still in my opinion is a psuedo completion and is a gross habit. |
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| It come down to reason. if they do that to skip the boring part then sure why not if it make them enjoy the show more? It's entertaining medium if said method make them enjoy it more i see no problem. some people doesnt care about the content but just want to mark their experience with the show as they enjoy it. (which is why you see alot of people like cheap mindless thriller) If they do that just for the sake to add it to complete list then it's really really pathetic. No one care about their list. if they want to add it that much just read some wiki summery just add it to their list. No one give a shit. |
romagia said: Kagami said: if you ask me, even worse is this "holier than thou" attitude, being so negative over a minority of anime fans, and wanton generalizationsI think I've realized even more than ever that the anime community has changed for the worse in some areas. The "Can watch 2x the anime in 2x the speed" is a laughable way to justify the actions of watching anime at 2x the speed. Like it has been said many times, some people care more about a number than their actual experience watching anime. Though, watching an anime at 2x still in my opinion is a psuedo completion and is a gross habit. You sound incredibly butthurt. Need some cream to help you deal with it? Sorry that you are so taken back by my and seemingly the majority opinion, but you may as well sit down and deal with it amigo. @Pixelzz - I still find it odd that those people will skip scenes or entire episodes and add the show to their completed list. |
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Kagami said: sounds a bit like projectingromagia said: if you ask me, even worse is this "holier than thou" attitude, being so negative over a minority of anime fans, and wanton generalizations You sound incredibly butthurt. Need some cream to help you deal with it? Sorry that you are so taken back by my and seemingly the majority opinion, but you may as well sit down and deal with it amigo. surely there must be a reason why you have that cream |
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| So there are people who does that ... Man, thats fucking retarded. |
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KingCarlo0420 said: When they already watched half of the episodes then they realized that they should have dropped it in the beginning, but they were too disappointed to drop it since they already finish watching half of it, then they feel obligued to finish it to relieve the disappointment of wasting their time watching the show. I sometimes do it, but not 2x speed, i think i do it 1.5x only. And besides, there are animes out there which is too slow, doubling the speed made it look the normal speed. And another reason is because of a friend's recommendation that they feel obligued to finish it. Or if the anime is highly rated, they are curious to watch it but turned out to be boring for them so they end up doubling the speed to satisfy their ego that "finally, i already watched this famous anime, but it wasn't that nice." It feels better than droppong the series which will made them feel incomplete. In response to "some anime are slow so speed it up". I feel like a case can be made that you are not watching the anime the way the creators animated it to be seen and the feels you'd normally have for it will become disjointed. Then by rating a show you watched in a way not created to be watched that way is pretty much an invalid score. |
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Kagami said: what about people that watch it at x2 speed but doesn't add it to their list? what if they just enjoy it that way?romagia said: if you ask me, even worse is this "holier than thou" attitude, being so negative over a minority of anime fans, and wanton generalizations You sound incredibly butthurt. Need some cream to help you deal with it? Sorry that you are so taken back by my and seemingly the majority opinion, but you may as well sit down and deal with it amigo. @Pixelzz - I still find it odd that those people will skip scenes or entire episodes and add the show to their completed list. it come down to perspective and how much you're trying to make sense of their action. It's it their list how they arrange it is up to them. I don't know why i should care about that. Then question come down to why using a list system in the first place? To manage your list? or to show off how much you've watched? As for the former reason, people manage their list in their own way. They set it as complete because they finished it, just because they skipped something doesn't mean they can't make sense out of entire story. Let's take long run shounen as example If there is a few episodes filler that is irrelevant to story(let's say episode 300-305), they don't like that so they skip it and watch the show up to episode 310. So, when they manage their list. what episode do you think they should mark as current watching point? Obviously it's easier for them to ignore the filler mark it as 310. so they can easily see and pick up where they left off the last time they watched it. So for me as long as what they do can increase their enjoyment factor, then it's understandable. Though yea it's pretty odd but understandable and not pathetic like doing just for the sake of adding to completed list. |
Pixelzz said: Kagami said: what about people that watch it at x2 speed but doesn't add it to their list? what if they just enjoy it that way?You sound incredibly butthurt. Need some cream to help you deal with it? Sorry that you are so taken back by my and seemingly the majority opinion, but you may as well sit down and deal with it amigo. @Pixelzz - I still find it odd that those people will skip scenes or entire episodes and add the show to their completed list. it come down to perspective and how much you're trying to make sense of their action. It's it their list how they arrange it is up to them. I don't know why i should care about that. Then question come down to why using a list system in the first place? To manage your list? or to show off how much you've watched? As for the former reason, people manage their list in their own way. They set it as complete because they finished it, just because they skipped something doesn't mean they can't make sense out of entire story. Let's take long run shounen as example If there is a few episodes filler that is irrelevant to story(let's say episode 300-305), they don't like that so they skip it and watch the show up to episode 310. So, when they manage their list. what episode do you think they should mark as current watching point? Obviously it's easier for them to ignore the filler mark it as 310. so they can easily see and pick up where they left off the last time they watched it. So for me as long as what they do can increase their enjoyment factor, then it's understandable. Though yea it's pretty odd but understandable and not pathetic like doing just for the sake of adding to completed list. You're wrong though. You say they set something as complete because they "finished it", but just because you get what went on in the scenes or episodes you skipped doesn't mean you watched that scene and or episode. Your argument goes against what the term "complete" even mean. Sure, I could watch Cowboy Bebop and randomly not watch episode 20, then its a fact I didn't complete Cowboy Bebop. I could watch Lucky Star and skip episodes 10-11, but that is not a completion either. How do you finish something you have yet to finish? Answer - You can't! No matter how you try to twist it or spell it out to me, you're wrong. |
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Kagami said: But that's your sense of meaning with "complete" word. it can mean they're done with this series. well it's back to my argument. it's their list and how they use them is up to them. why do they have to follow your definition of complete when it's their list?Pixelzz said: what about people that watch it at x2 speed but doesn't add it to their list? what if they just enjoy it that way? it come down to perspective and how much you're trying to make sense of their action. It's it their list how they arrange it is up to them. I don't know why i should care about that. Then question come down to why using a list system in the first place? To manage your list? or to show off how much you've watched? As for the former reason, people manage their list in their own way. They set it as complete because they finished it, just because they skipped something doesn't mean they can't make sense out of entire story. Let's take long run shounen as example If there is a few episodes filler that is irrelevant to story(let's say episode 300-305), they don't like that so they skip it and watch the show up to episode 310. So, when they manage their list. what episode do you think they should mark as current watching point? Obviously it's easier for them to ignore the filler mark it as 310. so they can easily see and pick up where they left off the last time they watched it. So for me as long as what they do can increase their enjoyment factor, then it's understandable. Though yea it's pretty odd but understandable and not pathetic like doing just for the sake of adding to completed list. You're wrong though. You say they set something as complete because they "finished it", but just because you get what went on in the scenes or episodes you skipped doesn't mean you watched that scene and or episode. Your argument goes against what the term "complete" even mean. Sure, I could watch Cowboy Bebop and randomly not watch episode 20, then its a fact I didn't complete Cowboy Bebop. I could watch Lucky Star and skip episodes 10-11, but that is not a completion either. How do you finish something you have yet to finish? Answer - You can't! No matter how you try to twist it or spell it out to me, you're wrong. Let's take my list my example. (well it's private but w/e) I use dropped as on hold and on hold as top priority PTW. see? it is my/their list. I/they have no obligation to follow your list managing style. |
Pixelzz said: Kagami said: But that's your sense of meaning with "complete" word. it can mean they're done with this series. well it's back to my argument. it's their list and how they use them is up to them. why do they have to follow your definition of complete when it's their list?You're wrong though. You say they set something as complete because they "finished it", but just because you get what went on in the scenes or episodes you skipped doesn't mean you watched that scene and or episode. Your argument goes against what the term "complete" even mean. Sure, I could watch Cowboy Bebop and randomly not watch episode 20, then its a fact I didn't complete Cowboy Bebop. I could watch Lucky Star and skip episodes 10-11, but that is not a completion either. How do you finish something you have yet to finish? Answer - You can't! No matter how you try to twist it or spell it out to me, you're wrong. Let's take my list my example. (well it's private but w/e) I use dropped as on hold and on hold as top priority PTW. see? it is my/their list. I/they have no obligation to follow your list managing style. Its not my style, its a global fact. You can't finish an anime and not finish the anime. Once you skip an episode, why not skip all the episodes? Your argument is faulty and makes little sense. By your argument, I could go on a wiki for episodes and a detailed description as each and mark it as complete.... |
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Kagami said: oh, how?Pixelzz said: But that's your sense of meaning with "complete" word. it can mean they're done with this series. well it's back to my argument. it's their list and how they use them is up to them. why do they have to follow your definition of complete when it's their list? Let's take my list my example. (well it's private but w/e) I use dropped as on hold and on hold as top priority PTW. see? it is my/their list. I/they have no obligation to follow your list managing style. Its not my style, its a global fact. You can't finish an anime and not finish the anime. Once you skip an episode, why not skip all the episodes? Sure if that give you the sense as you get what you want from the show and the feel like you're done with it. but does it? i don't think so.Does skip one episode affect my overall enjoyment factor? Does skip all episode affect my overall enjoyment factor? Are both method above has the same effect on enjoyment factor? Your argument is faulty and makes little sense. By your argument, I could go on a wiki for episodes and a detailed description as each and mark it as complete.... But Is "complete it" the ultimate goal of you watching anime? if true then it's pathetic.The goal of entertainment medium is to get an enjoyment out of it. If you feel like reading wiki will give you the sense of you're done enjoying it then sure. do it. But that can't be an option. You're arguing here by assuming everyone watch *insert any show here* just for the sake of complete it. But No. they watch to enjoy it, not just to complete it. if they're done enjoying it then they're done with it. |
| I'm guilty of using the 1,5x speed on the Tokyo Ghoul anime because I had already read the manga and just wanted to get over this shit quickly after seeing how butchered it is, because yeah I'm some fag who won't drop. Also concerning childhood shit like Pokemon where I obviously missed a few eps here and there back in the day, it won't stop me from marking it as completed because I've seen most of it and I'm way too lazy to search what I missed in a show that I've outgrown. If that makes me a "fake fan" then so be it I guess. |
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| @Pixelzz - Erm.. I can't cure your ignorance. If you can't grasp you can't finish an anime without finishing it and support the idea of "reading a wiki" could be a good way to tackle the anime medium then I don't think you'll get anything I say. Opinion of 2016 - If they enjoy it... they finished it even if they didn't watch a single episode. Bai Bai. |
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Kagami said: Hmm, the ignorance is on your part. you refuse to acknowledge that people watch the show to enjoy it and not to complete it.@Pixelzz - Erm.. I can't cure your ignorance. If you can't grasp you can't finish an anime without finishing it and support the idea of "reading a wiki" could be a good way to tackle the anime medium then I don't think you'll get anything I say. Opinion of 2016 - If they enjoy it... they finished it even if they didn't watch a single episode. Bai Bai. List system is just there for people to manage what they watch. why do you assume completely finish is important or the ultimate goal of watching something? why can't you accept people use listing system in different way? And your argument doesn't make sense. how can someone enjoy it if they haven't watch a single episode? and how does one irrelevant episode affect overall enjoyment that much? |
| It's the first time I've ever heard of that and it does sound incredibly weird. I was once a completionist (during my first yer watching anime) and even then when I hated something I just kept going and never really watched it at twice the speed or faster. I don't see the point at all. |
| i've seen in this site has a kind of game called 'anime watching challenge'. maybe it's because of this ppl force himself to finish the anime faster |
| I've put some anime on 2X speed before if it starting getting really slow and boring at one part (like if there's a boring filler part of an episode or just really slow dialogue) though when it picks back up again I return it back to normal speed. I've also done that with some other shows that I lost some interest that weren't overly complicated to see if they looked like they were still interesting but I usually ended up dropping those. I watch stuff that I actually really care about at normal speed unless some scene just starts dragging out. I don't understand how anybody could watch one at 4X though, I can barely keep up with the subs a 2X unless it's a really slow scene. Even if it's dubbed unless they are taking extremely slow I still don't think 4X would work well. I do watch Casshern Sins on 2X speed though, the pacing on the show is so slow for that most part it actuelly makes the show better for me. For some reason I just find that show really slow yet I kept Ergo Proxy and Wolfs Rain on normal speed. Some people just don't have much free time so they speed up there anime to watch more. I didn't watch much anime last month because of college work and being busy with family stuff but I still watched stuff I actuelly cared about a lot on normal speed. |
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Kagami said: gwendal738 said: Lol you say that like I care about other people's opinion on how I watch anime and how I do things. I am not going to sit through god awful series and waste my time that I could use to watch other anime more worthy of my time. Weird. You're saying you'd be wasting your time by watching the last two episodes at a normal pace, but isn't also true you had a choice getting that far in an anime that you obviously felt was a waste of time? I say suck it up and finish the series normally or don't watch it if you were wasting your time on your own decision. A lot of whining I hear when its clearly all your fault. I have never felt like I wasted my time watching an anime, even one I disliked. Again, I don't care what you think lol. I'll do it my way, you have no right to tell me what to do. |
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gwendal738 said: Kagami said: Weird. You're saying you'd be wasting your time by watching the last two episodes at a normal pace, but isn't also true you had a choice getting that far in an anime that you obviously felt was a waste of time? I say suck it up and finish the series normally or don't watch it if you were wasting your time on your own decision. A lot of whining I hear when its clearly all your fault. I have never felt like I wasted my time watching an anime, even one I disliked. Again, I don't care what you think lol. I'll do it my way, you have no right to tell me what to do. That's fine if you don't care. This is my thread and am looking for various opinions on why people do this and am replying to people who stick out. If you don't feel like answering, no problem. I do have a right however to reply and give opinions to others in my thread. |
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| If only i had thought of this whilst watching familiar of zero, that girl lead pissed me off so much at the beginning but once i had begun i couldn't stop, though to be honest Id rather just stop watching something or skip it rather than watch it at a faster speed, just seems pointless to do so. |
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| To this day I still don't truly understand why people do that. If you find watching an anime so tiresome that you go to such lengths as to watch it in 2x speed, then just drop it. |
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| I didn't know people did this lmao Wouldn't watching it on 2x speed ruin the anime? I drop a series or put it on hold if I'm finding it slow/losing interest, completion doesn't mean much to me. I care more about enjoying the anime and experiencing it, that's why I go back to my list when I have time, and watch anime leisurely Buuut each to their own |
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katiak_Ula said: ... ikr >_>...... jeez damm ellitesWow <_< can't believe it ppl did that way. for the sake of completion? Lol |
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| well i prefer full skip than 2x/ 4x speed its more faster lol atleast for me i do this not for sake of completion but for curious n when travelling watch anime n almost run out batery >_< also i always rewatch more episode than i thought well depend on mood n time 3-5 time per episode withoutskip |
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