ashfrliebert said: tsudecimo said: I don't hate it, I just don't want to it be successful. Same reason why people don't want reality TV shows to be successful. Doesn't really matter. The point of my post was about it's decline. Never implied that it didn't do great by itself. People don't want reality tv shows to be successful because they hate it, there's nothing wrong with hating it, anyway. And there's nothing wrong with celebrating the fact that series you don't like are performing bad. The only problem here is that it's not. "one piece didn't have the greatest opening weekend of all time, ahahaha" Good grief. It's like people go out of their way to NOT read what a person says, and just make their own narrative in their head. Most people that hate reality TV don't watch reality TV, because they think it's garbage. The analogy here, was you don't want something that you think is garbage to be successful. Doesn't matter if you personally hate it or not. Do I personally hate the Kardiashians? no, but if they went bankrupt that would be a good thing, because they are garbage, and represents so many wrong things about modern society and the entertainment industry in the US. I'm commenting in it's decline, not whether or not it was performing bad. That's LITERALLY what I said in the same post you are quoting. Am I supposed to explain the difference between decline and bad performance? Decline = I made 10 dollars from my lemonade stand this week. I made 20 dollars the week before. Bad performance = I made 1 dollar from my lemonade stand this week. smfh |
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harkanJul 27, 2016 5:03 AM
sman3579 said: ichii_1 said: It doesn't matter if it's the 5th best, it the most screens ever and sold way less. It's like if Star Wars got double it's screens and sold 30% less than the last movie, it made money but that's not not the point. That's like saying Finding Dory was a failure because it "only" made about 790 million (and counting) while Finding Nemo made 940 million even though Finding Dory was in about 1,000 more theaters than Nemo. A success is still a success. I also want to point out that opening weekend sales aren't everything. Zootopia made half as much money as Batman vs Superman did in it's opening weekend, yet Zootopia is the movie that made over a billion dollars while Batman vs Superman "only" made it to 870 million. I'll wait and see how Gold does in the long run before I label it anything. So far it's doing pretty well for itself but we will see. Nitpicking at the number of theaters it was released in compared to other movies is stupid. ichii_1 said: Next manga vol probably won't even break 2 million in 10 days. We will see about that. Even if it sells only 1.5 million in 10 days it will still be crapping on it's competition. Regardless of how long it will take, the next volume will more than likely reach 2 million in it's lifetime at least, which is more than another other manga volume can really reach. Snk sells over 2 million per volume, volume 18 sold over 2 million in the first half sales. Don't know why you're eating up ichii baits, he's just butthurt that bleach is ending. He's a lost child right now. Lol |
keragammingJul 27, 2016 4:43 AM
Isterio said: One Piece Film Gold is worth it, paid 14 bucks and enjoyed it. Wouldn´t watch it again though. Plot was really weak and some of the characters behaviour was somewhat weird. Generally the writing was bad. It´s made up mostly through the great animation but I can understand the japanese audiences if they love it or feel dissapointed. I went in without expectations and gave it a 7/10 mostly because of the comedy and the beauty but everything else went from meh to anger inducing. Pretty compareable to Road to Ninja. The Moral it tells is nice, it looks nice, it´s sometimes fun, more often then Road to Ninja, but it has also alot of anger inducing content. What this Movie did mostly for me was to invoke my demand for a EOS One Piece Movie I can watch in 10 years. Perfectly the Strawhats seperate at the end of the Manga everyone fullfilling his dream. Robin can assit a new government, Chopper can heal the world, I´d marry off Ussop&Sanji and send them back to Zefff&Kaya. Would send Zorro to challenging the world solo, Brook to Laboom to catch up, Franky back to his people, Nami to draw cards and Luffy to explpre the world.After that I´d bring in a timeskip and make the Movie about the Strawhats reuiniting for an Adventure where they go and find treasure or something. No battles, after all everything is solved at this point, there´s no need to fight the Big Bad. Maybe Ussop has a son at this point that we´ll get to see, Robin can teach children about the Void Century and rebuild Ohara etc.Make them reunite and imply that this can happen regulary from now on. The end. Or Oda can just show Toei and Shueisha the middle finger and kill of Luffy in the final chapter! That sounds much better than the useless Heart of Gold special. I'm naturally expecting cringe inducing scenes, but if the entertaining bits are good enough, I may be able to ignore them. |
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goknarlufy said: .according to oda from 2012 to 2016 the story is progressed only 5% Keep in mind that when Oda says these things he's not talking about real world time or chapter count. Dressrosa+Zou being only 5% of the whole thing storywise is pretty reasonable. |
Isterio said: One Piece Film Gold is worth it, paid 14 bucks and enjoyed it. Wouldn´t watch it again though. Plot was really weak and some of the characters behaviour was somewhat weird. Generally the writing was bad. It´s made up mostly through the great animation but I can understand the japanese audiences if they love it or feel dissapointed. I went in without expectations and gave it a 7/10 mostly because of the comedy and the beauty but everything else went from meh to anger inducing. Pretty compareable to Road to Ninja. The Moral it tells is nice, it looks nice, it´s sometimes fun, more often then Road to Ninja, but it has also alot of anger inducing content. What this Movie did mostly for me was to invoke my demand for a EOS One Piece Movie I can watch in 10 years. Perfectly the Strawhats seperate at the end of the Manga everyone fullfilling his dream. Robin can assit a new government, Chopper can heal the world, I´d marry off Ussop&Sanji and send them back to Zefff&Kaya. Would send Zorro to challenging the world solo, Brook to Laboom to catch up, Franky back to his people, Nami to draw cards and Luffy to explpre the world.After that I´d bring in a timeskip and make the Movie about the Strawhats reuiniting for an Adventure where they go and find treasure or something. No battles, after all everything is solved at this point, there´s no need to fight the Big Bad. Maybe Ussop has a son at this point that we´ll get to see, Robin can teach children about the Void Century and rebuild Ohara etc.Make them reunite and imply that this can happen regulary from now on. The end. Or Oda can just show Toei and Shueisha the middle finger and kill of Luffy in the final chapter! I want to ask. Should I watch Heart of Gold special and Silver Mine filler arc before the movie? Will I get confused with something if I go directly to the movie? |
Kaimon said: goknarlufy said: .according to oda from 2012 to 2016 the story is progressed only 5% Keep in mind that when Oda says these things he's not talking about real world time or chapter count. Dressrosa+Zou being only 5% of the whole thing storywise is pretty reasonable. 2012 to 2016 is half of Fishman Island, Punk Hazard, Dressrossa, Zou, and beginning of Totland! It isn't just Dressrossa + Zou. But 3.5 arcs and beginning of another one. CORRECTION: Is not half of Fishman Island, but the final part, around 1/5 of the arc, around 10 to 20 chapters of it. |
bigivelfhqJul 27, 2016 1:14 PM
bigivelfhq said: Kaimon said: Keep in mind that when Oda says these things he's not talking about real world time or chapter count. Dressrosa+Zou being only 5% of the whole thing storywise is pretty reasonable. 2012 to 2016 is half of Fishman Island, Punk Hazard, Dressrossa, Zou, and beginning of Totland! It isn't just Dressrossa + Zou. But 3.5 arcs and beginning of another one. CORRECTION: Is not half of Fishman Island, but the final part, around 1/5 of the arc, around 10 to 20 chapters of it. Oops, I forgot Dressrosa started in 2013. Can't believe Punk Hazard was really 4 years ago, time flies. I didn't count Totland since we aren't even 10 chapters deep yet but it'll probably be at least Alabasta/Skypiea length by the time it's done |
goknarlufy said: i love both naruto and one piece (bleach go to hell) but to think one piece is only 65% comlpete make me fill woried oda has no intention of stopping it .Yes it is good very good but can u invest more 15 years to it .according to oda from 2012 to 2016 the story is progressed only 5% making total 65% so can you becz i can't.but that dosn't change the fact that it is super popular Have you read the rest of the interview or just the part about manga being done in 65%? Oda doesn't want it to last for eternity. He's actually saying things like "it's a fight between the ending of One Piece and my lifetime" and "i need to reduce my ideas because if I don't, One Piece will never end" Not to mention he doesn't want to make another manga, and couple of years back he was still thinking about making a mecha manga after OP. IMO he's slowly getting tired of it(who wouldn't after 20 years of serialization?) but at the same time he just can't stop himself from adding new stuff, because he loves to draw (this he actually admited himself in other interviews) Punk Hazard and Dressrosa were an attept to make One Piece go faster, but it failed completely and instead made it longer. Oda said in his interviews that he was actually trying merge arcs so they would go faster, but in the end it took him even longer to draw them than usual. Hence 100 chapter long Dressrosa. Green bit and dwarves were not a part of Dressrosa orginally(but a separate arc most likely), but Oda added them there so he could get it done and progress the story faster. On both PH and DR he was trying to stuff as much of his ideas as he could instead of spreading them throught more arcs. He did that to get more things done faster, or so he thought, but it didn't work out and it made the story even longer and slower because of all the chaos and amount of plotlines and characters he simply couldn't handle. And we all know he's not a person to abandon secondary and even tertiary characters, so it all resulted in slow ass pacing and subpar quality. Fortunately, he also said that now he won't be just throwing every idea he has in an arc but instead make a careful selection of what ends up in the manga. And so far the change in his mentality is very clear. |
Dahaka_Jul 27, 2016 4:31 PM
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goknarlufy said: i love both naruto and one piece (bleach go to hell) but to think one piece is only 65% comlpete make me fill woried oda has no intention of stopping it .Yes it is good very good but can u invest more 15 years to it .according to oda from 2012 to 2016 the story is progressed only 5% making total 65% so can you becz i can't. Well I've reading it for about 8-ish years now so, sure lol. The box sets cost like..a combination of 400 dollars actually, so far. |
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Dahaka_ said: Have you read the rest of the interview or just the part about manga being done in 65%? 65% hun? That sounds about right. I remember when everyone was saying One Piece would be about 120 volumes because 60 was the presumed halfway mark. 65% of 120 is 78 which is pretty close to how many volumes are currently out right now. So maybe One Piece will really end at somewhere near 120 volumes. Dahaka_ said: Oda doesn't want it to last for eternity. He's actually saying things like "it's a fight between the ending of One Piece and my lifetime" and "i need to reduce my ideas because if I don't, One Piece will never end" Not to mention he doesn't want to make another manga, and couple of years back he was still thinking about making a mecha manga after OP. IMO he's slowly getting tired of it(who wouldn't after 20 years of serialization?) but at the same time he just can't stop himself from adding new stuff, because he loves to draw (this he actually admited himself in other interviews) Punk Hazard and Dressrosa were an attept to make One Piece go faster, but it failed completely and instead made it longer. Oda said in his interviews that he was actually trying merge arcs so they would go faster, but in the end it took him even longer to draw them than usual. Hence 100 chapter long Dressrosa. Green bit and dwarves were not a part of Dressrosa orginally(but a separate arc most likely), but Oda added them there so he could get it done and progress the story faster. On both PH and DR he was trying to stuff as much of his ideas as he could instead of spreading them throught more arcs. He did that to get more things done faster, or so he thought, but it didn't work out and it made the story even longer and slower because of all the chaos and amount of plotlines and characters he simply couldn't handle. And we all know he's not a person to abandon secondary and even tertiary characters, so it all resulted in slow ass pacing and subpar quality. Fortunately, he also said that now he won't be just throwing every idea he has in an arc but instead make a careful selection of what ends up in the manga.[/quote] This is all good to hear. As much as I love One Piece I do want a proper ending for it, and I don't want it to go on forever. As much as I liked Punk Hazard and Dressora (wouldn't call them my favorite arcs but I still liked them) they did have a lot of ideas and character packed into them. Looking at the end of the Dressora arc I feel like the clutter of characters actually worked for reasons I don't want to mention because of spoilers, but it's for the best if he just cuts down on all of his ideas and just uses the one's he thinks are the best. As long as he covers base with all of the current mysteries in OP that haven't been revealed then I'll be fine with any extra ideas he incorporates in future chapters. |
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Isterio said: otterman965 said: I want to ask. Should I watch Heart of Gold special and Silver Mine filler arc before the movie? Will I get confused with something if I go directly to the movie? No and what I´ll say applies to every Big 3 Movie, they´re all standalone and can be watched by themselves. Promotional episodes are attachedments that may or may not expand on the filler storyline. Okay, great. Thanks. I was far behind the latest episode, but I'm planning to watch it once it screened in my country. |
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harkanAug 4, 2016 3:13 PM
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8traque said: Weekly Shonen Jump #36/37 WSJ Cast (Cover) One Piece (Lead CP) My Hero Academia Haikyuu!! Nisekoi (CP, END) Black Clover Gintama The Promised Neverland (CP) Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san Hinomaru Zumou Boruto (CP) The Disastrous Life of Saiki K. Bleach (CP) Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma World Trigger Kochikame Kimetsu no Yaiba Samon the Summoner Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club Takuan and Batsu's Daily Demon Diary Toriko Chronicle of Isobe -Life is Hard- ------ Hmm. Looks like Bleach isn't quite over yet. But for Nisekoi, it is. I don't really see any chance of a third season for the Nisekoi anime. A lot of the newer series appear to be struggling in terms of rankings, at least for this issue. Hope they do make another season of Nisekoi, I hope they animate it to the end. |
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Isterio said: Toriko probably will get to finish at least, although I assume it´s on thin ice as well. I wonder why Toriko is ranking so low, I haven't read/watched it myself but it doesn't seem like a bad series. Maybe someone could enlighten me on why it ranks low usually. Isterio said: I´d say that The promised Neverland has two possibilities. A: It´ll turn into Shounen Jump´s AOT and will take offf as the next mystery/humanity goes extinct edgy manga. B: it´ll get axed because it has nothing else to offer than the first chapter premise of AOT. So The Promised Neverland is a humanity going extinct type story? Sounds very interesting and promising. Wonder what direction they will take the story. |
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Isterio said: sman3579 said: I wonder why Toriko is ranking so low, I haven't read/watched it myself but it doesn't seem like a bad series. Maybe someone could enlighten me on why it ranks low usually. To put it bluntly. Toriko has no soul. It managed to live off it´s worldbuilding and creative monster designs but at some point the monster designs are exhausted and you´ve visited enough "wonderland" like places that you grow tired of it and the characters have no personality to make up for it. Adding tentacles or extra limbs to existing animals (bears, elephants) isn´t exciting after you´ve seen 5 versions of that. Seeing clouds raining chocolate in one chapter and mushrooms made out of cheese sprouting out of the ground is creative, but not after you´ve seen it for 5 times. Than you have the characters who are all basicly one note and because they´re rarely together you´re stuck with only the main duo, which is boring because as explained one note characters. Imagine Luffy and Sakura together throughout the entirety of the show. One is a one dimensional brute the other a crybaby who is good at a single thing that the author hammers in to be awesome. Now imagine that those two don´t even have any feelings towards their surrounding humans and are more concerned about achieving their current selfish objective while they conveniently are painted as good guys because they benefit others, after they accomplished their objective. To make it short, imagine Luffy´s character was the one he had during his fight with Vivi consistently and the other guy is a part one male Sakura who never achieves any combat abilities and only becomes a great healer, which the author always paints as the "most amazing thing". Well I like Luffy's character so I don't really share that sentiment to much but I can understand the rest of your points. I didn't really like Sakura's character at all, found her annoying, wouldn't say I hated her but I wasn't a fan. To me it almost sounds like it is worn out or overstayed it's welcome based off of the way you describe it. Like how the world building and monster designs have become exhausted. I can see how the adding extra limbs to animals can get old after a while, same for the land with the raining chocolate and cheese mushrooms. I wonder if the low rankings mean it will be rushed to finish sooner? Or if they will give it a chance to work up the rankings. |
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 Shounen jump finally brought something new to the table that's actually interesting! I had to give them a round of applause. Usually when there's new series coming out for shounen jump, I would usually read the synopsis and look at the tags, and usually it would be your typical run of the mill battle shounen series, romance series, or sports series. And I wouldn't even bother checking them out, and rightfully so, since majority of them get axe in the next few month anyways. This one however peaked my interest since its tags had "horror, mystery in it, which I tend to like. Still didn't have any expectations for this series, but I gave it a shot simple because it was the one unique series in shounen jump magazine. In terms of its genre that's. This series has potential! Really liked the first chapter, characters got some decent characterization and execution felt right. Definitely will be following this on a weekly basis! Never thought the day would come again that I would be following a shounen jump series on a weekly basis. hopefully it doesn't get axe by lack of interest, but I think it will do well since it's different from your typical run of the mill shounen jump series and a lot of people these days are looking for something different, when last did shounen jump had a series with "horror" tag in it?? harkan said: This latest volume of Shingeki no kyojin wonder how it sells since its basically setting up for what the author says its the Climax. like every month with SnK volume releases it will be packed with spin off releases too. Lost girl 2 (END) Before the fall 9 Attack on Titan:Answers Junior High. The series is entering its climax, the basement reveal feels like 2 chapters away imo, definitely will happen in 2016, unless we get more interruptions but highly unlikely. |
keragammingAug 7, 2016 8:50 PM
Isterio said: To put it bluntly. Toriko has no soul. "muh fantasy has too much fantasy" Now imagine that those two don´t even have any feelings towards their surrounding humans and are more concerned about achieving their current selfish objective while they conveniently are painted as good guys because they benefit others, after they accomplished their objective. Do you say a comedy sucks because it has too much comedy as well? Having lots of creatures and environments is now bad when your series revolves around that? Are you saying soul = development? What is characterization? If you aren't a moral fag the character is bad now? Selfish? that's the point, go back and read speed reader-kun. Please keep your 4th rate critique out of here, harkan said: Simply Toriko declined in popularity. it happens to quite a few manga after a few years of serialization and the decline started in the Gourmet Festival Arc (the one most people call the best) The plot becoming so jumbled up probably didn't help. The decline started at the start of the Another Arc which is only a year ago and toriko still gets good rankings now and then so I say the whole pacing is a strategic move on Shima's end. Dumped the adventure/cooking and went full plot, the ranking has improved in the god arc too. |
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xEzioAuditore said: Today, it became the Almighty One : One Piece ! The new big 3? 1- Shingeki no Kyojin 2- Nanatsu no Taizai 3- Tokyo Ghoul:re Magi will be on substitutions team. I don't think Fairy Tail has a chance. (Atleast with me) Haikyuu!! Is totally in Number 2! If we count the volumes that are still being selling we have: 1- Attack on titan 2- Assassination Classroom 3- Haikyuu!! (4- Tokyo Ghoul!) |
xEzioAuditore said: Today, it became the Almighty One : One Piece ! The new big 3? 1- Shingeki no Kyojin 2- Nanatsu no Taizai 3- Tokyo Ghoul:re Magi will be on substitutions team. I don't think Fairy Tail has a chance. (At least with me) The thing with the big 3 is that they have to be ongoing weekly shounen manga that have an ongoing and long-running anime adaptation. They also have to be hugely popular, of course, but so much that newcomers get introduced to anime and manga through them. They also have to be fantasy or sci-fi because they please the biggest demographic, so rule out Haikyuu, please. So already we have a problem with your statement. Let's first take a look at Shingeki no Kyoujin: first, it's a monthly shounen manga, and second, it's about to end and the anime's second season next year will possibly be the last. It won't top the charts for 15 years like Naruto or Bleach. If you take a look back, Death Note was never considered as a part of the big 3 even though it was almost as popular as Naruto. It's still up there in the "Top Manga by Popularity", though. Then, there's Nanatsu no Taizai: You might be right about that one, actually. Sure, the anime is seasonal, but with the current way the industry works, it might be safe to assume that it's worthy. Tokyo Ghoul:RE: No anime yet. It's still under 100 chapters too, so it's too early to assume anything. I generally pair the franchise with Shingeki no Kyoujin as a runaway hit that doesn't have what it takes to stay on top in the long run. Magi: I really like it, but I feel that it may be lacking something. It has the right tone, though. As for Fairy Tail, your opinion doesn't really have an impact on the facts. It has replaced Bleach in the big 3 anime since its anime finished airing and Naruto in the big 3 manga since its manga finished its run. Just take a look at Manga Reader and you will see that it beats even One Piece. The anime is also confirmed to be coming back eventually. Since Naruto's anime isn't over yet and its impact on Jump with Boruto is still going strong, we can't rule it out as a part of the big 3 yet. As of right now, with Bleach's manga ending for good, it's not difficult to see that the current big 3 are: 1- Naruto 2- One Piece 3- Fairy Tail With Naruto coming to an end and the industry landscape rapidly changing, I can see Nanatsu no Taizai taking third place once Naruto Shippuden takes its leave, sooner than later. It's still too soon to be sure, though. The way I see it, the big 3 is a concept that applied ten years ago. Today, with a more diverse shounen landscape replacing them, with shorter-lasting anime and manga such as Shingeki no Kyoujin, Tokyo Ghoul, Nanatsu no Taizai, One Punch Man, Assassination Classroom and surely others to come as the wide-reaching mainstream hits of the decade, the concept of "big 3" doesn't really apply anymore. |
GomizillaAug 8, 2016 4:32 PM
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| OP gold 3rd weekend with a 38% drop from the second weekend its at 3.09 billion Yen now Finding Dory debuted in theaters earlier than OP gold, it had a significantly lower First weekend, but this weekend it did more Onepiece. 01 (01) ¥539,905,300 ($5.29 million), -14%, ¥2,150,635,500 ($20.8 million), Shin Godzilla (Toho) WK2 02 (03) ¥329,905,400 ($3.23 million), -26%, ¥4,299,870,000 ($41.5 million), Finding Dory (Disney) WK4 03 (02) ¥275,665,000 ($2.70 million), -38%, ¥3,097,206,100 ($29.5 million), One Piece Film Gold (Toei) WK3 Finding dory is now at 4.29B in 23 days To become the highest grossing animated film this year it has to beat these 3 ¥7.61 billion ($70.5 million) / 5.90 million [F] - Zootopia (Disney) ¥6.31 billion ($57.9 million) / 4.93 million [F] - Detective Conan: The Darkest Nightmare (Toho) ¥5.53 billion ($46.5 million) / 5.01 million [F] - Yo-Kai Watch: Great King Enma and the 5 Stories, Nyan! (Toho) |
harkanAug 9, 2016 3:29 AM
xEzioAuditore said: bigivelfhq said: Haikyuu!! Is totally in Number 2! If we count the volumes that are still being selling we have: 1- Attack on titan 2- Assassination Classroom 3- Haikyuu!! (4- Tokyo Ghoul!) I don't know about Haikyuu!! but Assassination Classroom manga is over ? And my Big 3 is the list of the Manga I liked to read the most. It has nothing to do with the Big 3 rules (being a weekly shounen and the other criters ) If we count the volumes that are still being selling we have |
bigivelfhq said: xEzioAuditore said: I don't know about Haikyuu!! but Assassination Classroom manga is over ? And my Big 3 is the list of the Manga I liked to read the most. It has nothing to do with the Big 3 rules (being a weekly shounen and the other criters ) If we count the volumes that are still being selling we have You forgot Hunter x Hunter. 15chara |
Should I really count an irregular series like HxH? It didn't sold any volume in 2 years, and now will sell 2 volumes and stop selling them for how long we don't even know. Maybe place it in a special place like how xEzioAuditore put One Piece. Grand King -> One Piece Grand Irregular -> HxH Big 3: 1- Attack on Titan 2- Assassination Classroom/Haikyuu! 3- Haikyuu!!/Tokyo Ghoul |
| Too be honest, I feel like the era of the Big 3 is over. The reason the big three were the Big 3 is because they sold well and were popular long runners. Nowadays, we don't really have anything that is nearly as long in terms of length compared to the big three, and if we do it isn't quite as popular as One Piece, Naruto and even Bleach. Finding other manga/anime that fit that criteria would be tricky. I feel like the Big 3 will always be used to describe the era of One Piece, Naruto and Bleach being the top dogs. Not saying there can't be other Big 3 necessarily, they just won't be as big of a 3 as One Piece, Bleach and Naruto. Also, why does Jojo never get brought up into the Big 3 discussion? From what I know it's a pretty popular series that sells well and the anime is popular. Of course recent parts have been monthly and not weekly. bigivelfhq said: Big 3: 1- Attack on Titan 2- Assassination Classroom/Haikyuu! 3- Haikyuu!!/Tokyo Ghoul I don't know if I would count Ass Class because the anime and manga are both over. With both being over it's hard to really call it a Big 3 member. |
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sman3579 said: Too be honest, I feel like the era of the Big 3 is over. The reason the big three were the Big 3 is because they sold well and were popular long runners. Nowadays, we don't really have anything that is nearly as long in terms of length compared to the big three, and if we do it isn't quite as popular as One Piece, Naruto and even Bleach. Finding other manga/anime that fit that criteria would be tricky. I feel like the Big 3 will always be used to describe the era of One Piece, Naruto and Bleach being the top dogs. Not saying there can't be other Big 3 necessarily, they just won't be as big of a 3 as One Piece, Bleach and Naruto. Also, why does Jojo never get brought up into the Big 3 discussion? From what I know it's a pretty popular series that sells well and the anime is popular. Of course recent parts have been monthly and not weekly. bigivelfhq said: Big 3: 1- Attack on Titan 2- Assassination Classroom/Haikyuu! 3- Haikyuu!!/Tokyo Ghoul I don't know if I would count Ass Class because the anime and manga are both over. With both being over it's hard to really call it a Big 3 member. Jojo never gets brought up because it really never was in the top 3 of the magazine nor in volume sales. Yep, is a very popular series, but at the time it was in Weekly Shonen Jump there always was other more popular titles. Well, The Golden Age of Jump had a ton of hugely popular series, it was a crazy time. Big 3 is a wester concept. If we just take the Weekly Shonen Jump magazine 3 big dogs or the best selling series ever; instead of just talking of One Piece, Naruto and Bleach; The conversation gets a lot more interesting. Well Haikyuu!! will be a really long running series. Now if it will still increase in popularity is an unknown, but just a little more push and it gets in the level of Bleach and maybe even Naruto in their peaks. One Piece will still be releasing in a decade(or around it), and we have always big titles coming every year. "I don't know if I would count Ass Class ...", that is why I placed the "/". The series overall is still active in Japan right now. With the volume release, re-airs and stuff like that. So is just a question if we automatically discard or still count it. |
de_struct said: First rule when watching anime or cartoon is. Never use logic. Logic wasnt there in the first place. Pell survived the bomb. Well because oda the god of OP universe decide that pell is alive and he take ace soul instead. If we put logic in show which logic isnt played we will lose the fun. Thats all. Btw if you want to watch logical show. Watch documetary based anime or show Obviously this can be explained in 1 of 2 ways. A) Pell flew it up high enough then ditched it and managed to get far enough way for him to get injured but not die. It was shown that he was in the hospital after all. B) He is a badass, and that bomb was nothing to him. XD bigivelfhq said: Jojo never gets brought up because it really never was in the top 3 of the magazine nor in volume sales. Yep, is a very popular series, but at the time it was in Weekly Shonen Jump there always was other more popular titles. Well, The Golden Age of Jump had a ton of hugely popular series, it was a crazy time. Big 3 is a wester concept. Well Haikyuu!! will be a really long running series. Now if it will still increase in popularity is an unknown, but just a little more push and it gets in the level of Bleach and maybe even Naruto in their peaks. One Piece will still be releasing in a decade(or around it), and we have always big titles coming every year. I know it's a Western concept. Naruto and Bleach were always really popular here in America, One Piece too but not as much because the people don't like the art as much, not only that but the 4Kids dub was bad and ruined people's images of it. Haikyuu is great, hope it continues to gain in popularity. It fills in the gap that would have been there when Kuroko's Basketball ended, which was also a great series. When JoJo was with Weekly did it usually rank somewhere in the middle or something? It's been going on for so long, and had a consistent quality to it, that I'm surprised it never hit a point when it was near the top of the magazine, even if it was during the Golden Age Time. |
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xEzioAuditore said: So, it must be a shounen. But isn't the concept of the Big 3 meaning the most selling manga? Because I can't see Fairy Tail considered a Big One due to the selling rate not as good as my list ? Either way. If the era of the Big 3 is over, that doesn't mean it should be another big 3? I wish HxH would comeback for a long time serialization so we can see the two pillars of the manga = One Piece & HxH Again, what about Death Note and Full Metal Alchemist? They were both manga and anime at the same time and they had even more reach here than even Bleach and One Piece, yet they were never considered as big as the Big 3 because they didn't last as long. Now, there's only One Piece left. In Japan, there were never a Big 3 because OP was always miles ahead. Anyway, One Piece has become way too long to be an entry point like the Big 3 used to be. With it still getting even less accessible to newcomers and with Naruto gone, there won't be anything left of what the Big 3 represented. My point is that the Big 3 was basically long-running series that were both manga and anime at the same time and that were the most common entry point for new fans of anime and manga. FMA and DN weren't long enough, so they didn't have that "weekly" factor when they really became known to the non anime-and-manga-fans. With the current model, hits come and go. None stay long enough to become part of a "Big 3" or something like that. Precisely, the Big 3 are weekly shounen manga that have an ongoing, long-running anime adaptation and that serve as an entry point to new western fans of manga and anime. Also, good luck waiting for HiatusXHiatus. I've given up on it ten years ago. sman3579 said: When JoJo was with Weekly did it usually rank somewhere in the middle or something? It's been going on for so long, and had a consistent quality to it, that I'm surprised it never hit a point when it was near the top of the magazine, even if it was during the Golden Age Time. Sadly, I don't think that Jojo fares well enough with newcomers. |
GomizillaAug 9, 2016 1:59 PM
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de_struct said: First rule when watching anime or cartoon is. Never use logic. Logic wasnt there in the first place. Pell survived the bomb. Well because oda the god of OP universe decide that pell is alive and he take ace soul instead. If we put logic in show which logic isnt played we will lose the fun. Thats all. Btw if you want to watch logical show. Watch documetary based anime or show You're totally confusing what Logic means! About Pell, given the fact that a ton of characters up to that point had survived many severe injures that should kill them more than 10 times over, it just makes Pell 1 more case between many more. Simple examples: - Ussop got hit by a 4-ton bat in the face, that is the weight of around a huge Elephant, and got all his brain shattered, still didn't died nor got any big after effect damage. - Zoro got blasted by a Buggy Dama and it just got a little headache. People complain about Pell, but the guy was blasted kilometers, got in coma for a group of days, if not weeks, and ended with this kind of wounds all over his body:  If Zoro can survive be sliced in half by Daz Bone, Pell the strongest warrior of Alabasta can very well survive a blast. |
bigivelfhqAug 9, 2016 1:57 PM
bigivelfhq said: de_struct said: First rule when watching anime or cartoon is. Never use logic. Logic wasnt there in the first place. Pell survived the bomb. Well because oda the god of OP universe decide that pell is alive and he take ace soul instead. If we put logic in show which logic isnt played we will lose the fun. Thats all. Btw if you want to watch logical show. Watch documetary based anime or show You're totally confusing what Logic means! About Pell, given the fact that a ton of characters up to that point had survived many severe injures that should kill them more than 10 times over, it just makes Pell 1 more case between many more. Simple examples: - Ussop got hit by a 4-ton bat in the face, that is the weight of around a huge Elephant, and got all his brain shattered, still didn't died nor got any big after effect damage. - Zoro got blasted by a Buggy Dama and it just got a little headache. People complain about Pell, but the guy was blasted kilometers, got in coma for a group of days, if not weeks, and ended with this kind of wounds all over his body: If Zoro can survive be sliced in half by Daz Bone, Pell the strongest warrior of Alabasta can very well survive a blast. nah2, thats what i mean. logic wasnt played here, so be it. if i over think like you said, zoro been sliced by mihawk, not to mention usopp battle damage, if we used human logic, there were no ways they survived that. but because i dont use logic at all, i can watch it without bothering about that. it just oda decisions and i accept that, over all thats what i mean. and im agree with you |
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