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Jul 6, 2016 2:34 AM
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From enjo kousai(compensated dating), to molestation cases aboard crowded japan train cabins, to weird wacky sexually-targeted products selling on the market (like the infamous used panties vending machine at the Tokyo train station), there is no wonder many people consider Japanese people as leaning more towards the "perverted" region. Not to mention how certain people interpret their "cutesy" or high-pitched accent among the Japanese females negatively as a trait nurtured due to men's preference of such high-pitched accents and how entire floors of some manga or anime stores are reserved for selling adult-themed products.

But are Japanese people really more perverted than the average person? I have recently learnt about the surprisingly low age of consent of japan(13 years) and also about Japan's slowly but surely aging society and its low birth rate and teenage pregnancy percentage. Comments from other users also suggest that Japanese youths are educated from a very young age about sexually related issues and self-control.

So what do you guys think? Are Japanese people really more perverted than the average person?
jh1h1hJul 6, 2016 2:56 AM
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Actually the Japanese are more prudes than pervs. They just don't hide that stuff away all the like some cultures do so it seems more perverse than it is.
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Jul 6, 2016 2:44 AM
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The age of consent varies from prefecture though.
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Jul 6, 2016 2:50 AM
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Jokes aside, i think this is becoming the norm worldwide, not just in Japan (conservative countries excluded).
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If I had to describe Japan in a negative way, it would be "materialistic". Money talks and I think that's why you have things like compensated dating and a rather active adult industry.

However, it is also a society that care a lot about appearance. So here's my hypothesis: the pressure of always having to "behave" and "act properly" result in a lot of repressed urge, resulting in some people seeking the other extreme (kinky stuff). And if there is money to be made, it will be made, so industries are formed to cater for those urges. On average, I doubt that they are really more perverted though. AFAIK, the average couple do not have sex as much as many other countries, so it could also explain why some seek "alternatives".

Also, I dare anyone to find some used pantie vending machine. 5 years in Japan and having travelled 2/3rd of the country, I've seen plenty of things being sold via vending machine not found elsewhere, but never used underwear.
Jul 6, 2016 2:55 AM
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I didn't know those kinds of things existed. kek

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Jul 6, 2016 3:04 AM
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AxBattler said:
Also, I dare anyone to find some used pantie vending machine. 5 years in Japan and having travelled 2/3rd of the country, I've seen plenty of things being sold via vending machine not found elsewhere, but never used underwear.


I heard there was one right outside the some Tokyo train station or something. Maybe it was just a hoax then.
Jul 6, 2016 3:26 AM
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Actually, about the age of consent. Over in the UK it's 16 but no one actually gives a shit about sex at 13. Someone in my old class had sex at 13

I don't really think Japan is more perverted, it's probably better to say more open
Jul 6, 2016 4:25 AM
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Meanwhile birthrates

I don't get it
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What a lot of people forget is that in most ways, Japan is just like any other westernised first world countiry. Those "used panties vending machines" being everywhere is a complete lie, and most japanese people are just *gasp* normal people who also find that kinda shit to be weird.

There is just a niche of people who are very open about sexuality, but it doesn't reflect the whole country, which is arguably more prudish than even the United States (considering their porn still has to be censored, as an example).
Jul 31, 2016 1:46 AM
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"Why is the Japanese birth rate so low?"
"Because Japanese sex toys are so advanced." ~MasuoTV
Why did I never realise that:/
Jul 31, 2016 1:48 AM
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jh1h1h said:
"Why is the Japanese birth rate so low?"
"Because Japanese sex toys are so advanced." ~MasuoTV
Why did I never realise that:/


allot of the time pro productive nations have lower birth rates
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i don't necessarily think japanese people are more perverted than the ''average person'' at all. first you need to define and distinguish who is an average person, then somehow ascertain what would be an acceptable level of perversion and then decide what you are going to compare it to, because it all comes down to cultural acceptance and norms within that particular society. you could say they are more expressive perhaps.
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Age of consent is basically 18 years old in pretty much every where in Japan.13 years old is boderline whether it is considered rape or not.Having sex with 17-14 years old still may put you into jail but not sentenced as rape by the court.Having sex with 13-0 years old is automatically sentenced as rape by the court.

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I don't think so. The same thing probably happens all over the world but for some reason anything that happens in Japan is automatically considered faulty/weird/wrong (not saying it isn't).
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DateYutaka said:


allot of the time pro productive nations have lower birth rates
yeah but that by itself makes no sense, "oh hey honey, the economy's high, let's not make any kids" lmao
There are a few reasons.

A "good economy" in the modern world usually means one that is based on skilled labor. This is actually very relevant. When skilled labor is the norm, education costs are higher, meaning the financial burden of a child is higher. Comparatively, in an agricultural society for example, children become a benefit as they can help out with the family's source of income, especially in countries where education is not mandatory.

There are other reasons as well, for starters birth control is much more easy to acquire in industrialized, and secular nations, such as Japan. Sex education is much more comprehensive, kind of ties in with the previous point, however this is also relevant compared to countries like America where abstinence based sex-ed. is still a norm despite numerous studies pointing out that this style of sex-ed. leads to younger age of first sexual experience as well as more teen pregnancies . . . but go figure. Stressing one's own economic success means that settling down w/ a family happens later in life, i.e. less children. More reasons of course but you get the point. As for why Japan is so much worse off than most industrialized countries, I have no idea.
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There are states in the US that allow sex at 13 (as long as the partner is no more than four years older).

Also Japan still has laws against showing genitals in porn, so yeah, they're not 100% a free-for-all pervert nation.

Buttholes are okay though. We never see enough buttholes in anime/Japanese porn, despite the fact that it's legal. There was a butthole in the Senran Kagura OVA and it was amazing.
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Goofs said:
DateYutaka said:


allot of the time pro productive nations have lower birth rates
yeah but that by itself makes no sense, "oh hey honey, the economy's high, let's not make any kids" lmao


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look gemany the most [roodvtive natin in the eu has the lowest birth rtes in the world now more wprl time = less se time
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Jul 31, 2016 9:52 AM
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No country is "more perverted" than any other, some are just afraid to show it and others not so much. What I don't understand though is that despite the more openly perverted counties having less crime, the counties were it's taboo don't take notes.

I can't stand this idea that it's inherently a bad thing to be openly horny, as if being openly horny always leads to rape or molestation or some shit
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As for why Japan is so much worse off than most industrialized countries, I have no idea.


I don't think Japan is that much worse off:/, with all its technological advances and stuff. Also I'm pretty sure Japan's birth rate is quite low compared to US or the other industrialised countries' birth rate, much like a few other Asian countries currently experiencing an economic revolution.

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i don't necessarily think japanese people are more perverted than the ''average person'' at all. first you need to define and distinguish who is an average person, then somehow ascertain what would be an acceptable level of perversion and then decide what you are going to compare it to, because it all comes down to cultural acceptance and norms within that particular society. you could say they are more expressive perhaps.


pervert
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noun: pervert; plural noun: perverts
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a person whose sexual behaviour is regarded as abnormal and unacceptable.
"Unacceptable" is in the definition itself:/

Not trying to make any points here but okayXD
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Remember Japan's population is rather small and decreasing even for a high lifestyle place like Japan. Because of the small amount of perverts to the amount of total population seems like alot, but in reality it's only just a small amount.

But lets be honest, perverts are fun so why bother? LULZ
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Is no one else seeing that most western music videos are pretty much pornography? Not to mention the x-rated lyrics and that fact that America has a leading industry in pornography. Drugs and sex have a hold of middle schoolers where I am from and teen pregnancy is a common occurrence. I guess our media makes the kids a lot more perverted while Japanese media makes them more introverted. Maybe we should switch, it might be a big help for both sides.
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>perversion is inherently a bad thing

found the white knight prude
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And the japanese stewardess, who have sex with pilots, because it's naturally?
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Oh, shit. Another snowflake SJW whining about gender stereotypes. btw, where'd u get the idea that molestation was a common problem in Japan? Rape is very rare in Japan. If what u mean by molestation is that whole thing about women being inappropriately touched on the trains, then u used the term "molestation" out of context just to demonize men.

How does an SJW end up on an anime fan site anyway? I thot anime was "sexist".
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Goofs said:
Pirating_Ninja said:
There are a few reasons.

A "good economy" in the modern world usually means one that is based on skilled labor. This is actually very relevant. When skilled labor is the norm, education costs are higher, meaning the financial burden of a child is higher. Comparatively, in an agricultural society for example, children become a benefit as they can help out with the family's source of income, especially in countries where education is not mandatory.

There are other reasons as well, for starters birth control is much more easy to acquire in industrialized, and secular nations, such as Japan. Sex education is much more comprehensive, kind of ties in with the previous point, however this is also relevant compared to countries like America where abstinence based sex-ed. is still a norm despite numerous studies pointing out that this style of sex-ed. leads to younger age of first sexual experience as well as more teen pregnancies . . . but go figure. Stressing one's own economic success means that settling down w/ a family happens later in life, i.e. less children. More reasons of course but you get the point. As for why Japan is so much worse off than most industrialized countries, I have no idea.
children aren't really that much of a benefit in agricultural societies either though. in the long run you pay more to take care of all their needs when you could simply pay people to help you, and the children are useless for labor and an extra burden for several years. so that doesn't really give a good explanation when you think about it. in fact, more children is more beneficial in a highly skilled, modern society. thanks to scholarships, if you push your children to do well in school, they can get high paying jobs cheaply as well and contribute much more to the family than the agricultural society's children ever could. oddly enough, the amount of children in both agricultural and developed societies seems opposite to what's best for the parents. whoever came up with your theory should re-examine this idea

this ties in with my next point, that economic success in a modern society is best achieved by creating a large skilled family, all with high incomes. the problem is that modern societies have given up on your "agricultural strategy" thanks to normalization of independence from the family

I think ultimately the problem is the devaluing of familial bonds in recent times. less strong familial bonds=less of an economic safety net, less motivation to continue the family, less psychological/emotional support, less confidence, less likelihood of finding someone to settle down with. it's all a big domino effect.

no idea what Japan's problem is though
No matter how cheap labor is, free labor is cheaper, and especially in an agricultural society, where one produces food, the cost of raising a child is minimal.

The vast majority of students in college do not get scholarships, let alone full-scholarships (only .3% of college students get enough grants / scholarships to cover all of their college costs within the United states. This is quite literally an insignificant number of people, and therefore not even worth mentioning as a reasonable possibility let alone a standard), which means that while the kid in an agricultural society has already paid off their debt by the age of 18, the kid in a society centered around education is about to incur a debt many times larger than the kid from the agricultural society could ever possibly incur. (not too mention over the last 18 years they have racked up debt as their only occupation has been "going to school")

Then we move on from their and assume that the kid in the society based around education returns the money spent on them towards their family . . . In what world does this happen? Perhaps in China, where paying the debt to one's parents if you are a male is customary, however given their aging population coupled with the fact that a little under 50% of their population lives in an "industrialized setting", it would be a MASSIVE stretch to pretend that this is the norm in a society centered around education (it sure as hell is not true of any Western country). Whereas, typically, in an agricultural society the child does not "leave the nest" after incurring massive expenses on the parents, but instead continues to help the parents until they inherit the land and continue the cycle.
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Oh, shit. Another snowflake SJW whining about gender stereotypes. btw, where'd u get the idea that molestation was a common problem in Japan? Rape is very rare in Japan. If what u mean by molestation is that whole thing about women being inappropriately touched on the trains, then u used the term "molestation" out of context just to demonize men.

How does an SJW end up on an anime fan site anyway? I thot anime was "sexist".


They probably found the wrong place, Onehallyu would accept them with open arms, however.
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YatoKirigaya said:
Oh, shit. Another snowflake SJW whining about gender stereotypes. btw, where'd u get the idea that molestation was a common problem in Japan? Rape is very rare in Japan. If what u mean by molestation is that whole thing about women being inappropriately touched on the trains, then u used the term "molestation" out of context just to demonize men.

How does an SJW end up on an anime fan site anyway? I thot anime was "sexist".

They probably found the wrong place, Onehallyu would accept them with open arms, however.

Hey, my knowledge on Japan isn't 100% correct, just like how I thought "used panties vending machines" actually existed:/ The reasons I suggested are just my assumptions, and I'm glad some of you here have helped me debunk some of them.

Also I'm just asking a question, not making a point, have some mercy pls
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jh1h1h said:
"Why is the Japanese birth rate so low?"
"Because Japanese sex toys are so advanced." ~MasuoTV
Why did I never realise that:/


Korrvo said:
Meanwhile birthrates

I don't get it


Read/watch documentaries about declining birthrate in Japan. It's normal in their society to think about working longer and get married older, if at all. Their people are just getting smarter and more sensible, it's common with highly-developed nations.
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Read/watch documentaries about declining birthrate in Japan. It's normal in their society to think about working longer and get married older, if at all. Their people are just getting smarter and more sensible, it's common with highly-developed nations.


In addition to this,many western or asian countries have similar stats or even lower stats than Japan(1.43) such as Italy(1.43),Germany(1.38),Spain(1.32)South Korea(1.18)Singapore(1.19) ,although there are many countries much higher numbers than Japan such as US(1.87) or France(2.01),Canada(1.61)
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umashikaneko said:
iSheep said:


Read/watch documentaries about declining birthrate in Japan. It's normal in their society to think about working longer and get married older, if at all. Their people are just getting smarter and more sensible, it's common with highly-developed nations.


In addition to this,many western or asian countries have similar stats or even lower stats than Japan(1.43) such as Italy(1.43),Germany(1.38),Spain(1.32)South Korea(1.18)Singapore(1.19) ,although there are many countries much higher numbers than Japan such as US(1.87) or France(2.01),Canada(1.61)


Haha thanks. Forgot to drop the other facts. But in all seriousness if they're that concerned they shouldn't. People just like to cite negatives.
Just need to find out how to quote this every time so I can dodge the stupid 30-character limit.
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umashikaneko said:
In addition to this,many western or asian countries have similar stats or even lower stats than Japan(1.43) such as Italy(1.43),Germany(1.38),Spain(1.32)South Korea(1.18)Singapore(1.19) ,although there are many countries much higher numbers than Japan such as US(1.87) or France(2.01),Canada(1.61)

Goddamn....South Korea birth rate is terrible...

@Nico- Hook me up with a Korean chick!

No plastic surgery ones tho....

Wait....maybe I DO want the ones that have plastic surgery....I forget, which are the good ones?

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