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Jul 23, 2016 2:22 AM
#401
turquoise_neko said: attitude and action is contradictoryaa-dono said: turquoise_neko said: I will consider those that voted for me as being scum until proven otherwise, because voting for me seems the most convenient for mafia right now yes it seems so, I posted when the vote was pretty close 4:3 But I really don't get why you're voting with Penta now, he actually gave some reads, although i can agree that their attitude and action is contradictory . It's kinda' hard for me right now, because I can't think who's scummier than the other. Penta giving reads but then vote someone else to contribute. This part isn't exactly scummy since he have enough time to come back and check on the vote later. But he could also use the time to pursue his reads. Only thing I know for sure is that I don't want thug to be lynch this phase. Anyway, since you're online now, other than jumping on your train for opportunity, do you have other reasons for your scumread? |
Jul 23, 2016 2:24 AM
#402
aa-dono said: What has happened within their dynamic to make you think they're more or less likely to be scum together?What are the odds of Penta and Claire as scumbuddies? |
Jul 23, 2016 2:26 AM
#403
aa-dono said: I think just lack of paranoia is what I was originally on him for but im in the midst of evolving the push.I don't get it. My vote on him right now is mainly for answers, and I still don't get what's yours. |
Jul 23, 2016 2:31 AM
#404
Fo said: PentaFlare said: Okay yea this is scum for sure.Oh yay. We've started. Right off the bat I'm thinking Lucian is more likely town this game. He is generally more likely to get engaged as town than as scum and the last time I've seen him out that much effort into anything he was making Morse code messages while silenced. @Nightwing Why wait? There's nothing stopping you from starting your interrogation now. I would like to see you do something that is actually useful. Vote: _Claire_ Every time I try and get Claire lynched on day one she is always scum. Let's see what her alignment is this game. Vote: Pentaflare I dont see it that way, but I need to admit he is a forever scum in my eyes and so I am probably a lot biased but this does not make him scummish. Yet. aa-dono said: _Claire_ said: Not really. Before this people just never notice my post and shrug my questions off. And obviously I stopped questioning and started defending when train builds on me, so people thought I only talk when I'm pressured.aa-dono said: mallorean_thug said: Gladly. Vote Nightwing aa-dono said: What's TMI? Too Much Information: When people leak private information into the thread by showing a mindset where they're assuming something is true despite having no in-thread reason to do so. This early, that's mostly referring to scum acting a little too sure about somebody being town (usually not with a direct read, but with how they interact with them). What do you think is the most alignment indicative post so far in either direction? Yours probably. You're basically in the probably town to me. My reads starts with everyone is scum until otherwise. I think it's hard to figure out Penta on Day 1.. I don't agree that Lucian could be town. I agree with Lucian's post on Karote. It's hard to figure him out. Soda post fluff regardless of his alignment - I think how he post is affected by his mood/energy. Not sure about the rest. Nightwing talks much more under pressure so hopefully the train builds :) As far as I know you also only talk when you are pressured, aa-chan :> Well, I try to not ask too much now as some people find that annoying. That's all. Instead of commenting on that, what do you think of Nightwing? Or anyone's post? To be honest with 3 games going on, I am having trouble having a clear read on anyone. I will see if I can find something after reading the whole game through. aa-dono said: _Claire_ said: So will he find catch you scum on Day 2?PentaFlare said: Oh yay. We've started. Right off the bat I'm thinking Lucian is more likely town this game. He is generally more likely to get engaged as town than as scum and the last time I've seen him out that much effort into anything he was making Morse code messages while silenced. @Nightwing Why wait? There's nothing stopping you from starting your interrogation now. I would like to see you do something that is actually useful. Vote: _Claire_ Every time I try and get Claire lynched on day one she is always scum. Let's see what her alignment is this game. I am so sad to say that this game is not the day you caught me scum day 1. Try again. No idea, if there is converter role, probably, eh? Fo said: aa-dono said: If an odd vibe isn't a scumvibe then what is it? And why bring it up?I don't get what you meant. Only thing I found odd is him voting Claire instead of Nightwing. But I get the odd-vibe, not scum-vibe from that. Can you explain? And like yea it looks like he's unimpressed with nightwing's play but doesn't vote him and proceeds to rvs (at least i think it was rvs?) after we're already 100 posts in. Certainly not great. But he's townreading lucian, lucian for... effort. Yea. I think Penta loves to give townread to Lucian. Not first time I saw him town-reading Lucian day 1. Kasai said: _Claire_ said: Kasai said: Yeah she was mafia in our last game and killed me. She slipped that out in one of our skype chats. I have got haters here. Vote: mallorean How much have you played mafia games so far? Shouldnt be a suprise I even said I was gonna vote you for this :] What? I think your read on me is so forced. Are you still salty from Pirate games? :'> |
Jul 23, 2016 2:34 AM
#405
aa-dono said: turquoise_neko said: attitude and action is contradictoryaa-dono said: turquoise_neko said: I think voting for Penta would be most convenient for mafia right now.I will consider those that voted for me as being scum until proven otherwise, because voting for me seems the most convenient for mafia right now yes it seems so, I posted when the vote was pretty close 4:3 But I really don't get why you're voting with Penta now, he actually gave some reads, although i can agree that their attitude and action is contradictory . It's kinda' hard for me right now, because I can't think who's scummier than the other. Penta giving reads but then vote someone else to contribute. This part isn't exactly scummy since he have enough time to come back and check on the vote later. But he could also use the time to pursue his reads. Only thing I know for sure is that I don't want thug to be lynch this phase. Anyway, since you're online now, other than jumping on your train for opportunity, do you have other reasons for your scumread? The fact that both of them jumped from voting Nightwing and then me , now I don't know if voting for Nightwing was just for show- meaning Nightwing is mafia and they tried to avert the attention from him or that he isn't a good target anymore- still trying to figure out this but they both sure are suspicous. |
Jul 23, 2016 2:37 AM
#406
Fo said: Claire's always paranoid about Penta being mafia. She's not doing that much here. She's sure and stubborn, but she's always actively pursuing. So I find it odd that she doesn't do that to Penta.aa-dono said: What has happened within their dynamic to make you think they're more or less likely to be scum together?What are the odds of Penta and Claire as scumbuddies? It's just a passing thought. -> the possibility of them just re-enacting the back-forth early argument they have. -> In our last Pirate game, Claire already learn that she can use her paranoia when she's scum. -> they're both less likely to vote for their buddies. -> Penta dropped his vote -> Claire doesn't bug him for his weird entrance or later posts. |
Jul 23, 2016 2:40 AM
#408
turquoise_neko said: I started the train on Nightwing because he doesn't talk unless pressured. He's not really clear of my suspicion yet, but nothing much to go with it too.aa-dono said: turquoise_neko said: aa-dono said: turquoise_neko said: I think voting for Penta would be most convenient for mafia right now.I will consider those that voted for me as being scum until proven otherwise, because voting for me seems the most convenient for mafia right now yes it seems so, I posted when the vote was pretty close 4:3 But I really don't get why you're voting with Penta now, he actually gave some reads, although i can agree that their attitude and action is contradictory . It's kinda' hard for me right now, because I can't think who's scummier than the other. Penta giving reads but then vote someone else to contribute. This part isn't exactly scummy since he have enough time to come back and check on the vote later. But he could also use the time to pursue his reads. Only thing I know for sure is that I don't want thug to be lynch this phase. Anyway, since you're online now, other than jumping on your train for opportunity, do you have other reasons for your scumread? The fact that both of them jumped from voting Nightwing and then me , now I don't know if voting for Nightwing was just for show- meaning Nightwing is mafia and they tried to avert the attention from him or that he isn't a good target anymore- still trying to figure out this but they both sure are suspicous. I think Lucian's vote on Nightwing is alright. Soda not so much. |
Jul 23, 2016 2:42 AM
#409
Kasai said: LucianRoy said: Meta reading meta reads. Now that's bad play. Yeah I know. I think it is bad too but some people think it is useful (claire) Tbh if I get complains about how I play I am going to be asked to be repped out. Thanks. I have no time to deal with you haters, if you dont like it go to staffs and complain and see if they get me hell outta mafia forum games. OR just ignore me completely. Thanks. Are you scared of being voted on? I have the impression so anyway. turquoise_neko said: LucianRoy said: turquoise_neko said: yeah, everyone (*joking) I usually tend to get scummreads later, but I think there is a scum among those that are voting for Penta or Nightwing. Are you talking the current train? Or the collective people who've voted them throughout the course of the game. If so, that's a lot of people. The random votes before can mean anything, so i won't look too much into it, but the current train is interesting to watch. Now sleep zzz.zzz What do you think of current train? |
Jul 23, 2016 2:44 AM
#410
mallorean_thug said: PentaFlare said: I'm fine with being mysterious. People will know my intentions in due time. You'll know when that happens. If you're town, you should be keeping me from wasting time on you while scum get to fly UTR. Since you're not, I'm going to reread to find your buddies, since you're currently refusing to tell me who they are yourself. Umm.. What are you saying here? Lol. |
Jul 23, 2016 2:50 AM
#411
Sodalicious_ said: Oh I forgot to mention Penta Penta's not been giving any reasons to change my vote from him And despite all the pressure he still wants to 'Remain mysterious' Bro, if I were you I'd hurry up and give us something useful to go on What are you fishing at here? I find it suspicious Also Penta being mysterious is something he does a lot as town. As scum he is usually more into giving information. I am town-reading Penta for some reason here. mallorean_thug said: PentaFlare said: This is the problem. You are basing everything off the assumption that I am scum. I'm telling you that you should not be tying your reads into something uncertain like my alignment. I'm really not. I'm currently thinking "Here's how I think the thread looks if Penta is scum. This is World 1" AND "Here's how the thread looks if Penta is town, this is World 2". I've just put World 2 on the backburner for the moment because you're here and other people aren't. If you're town, I'd expect you to do one of several things: 1. Decide I'm scum. Start building a counter case. 2. Decide I'm town that can be reasoned with. Try to change my read to get me to focus elsewhere. 3. Decide I'm town that can't be reasoned with. Ignore me and continue scumhunting other people. You're not doing any of those. Instead you're doing 2' from the scum version of that list which is: 2'. Know that I'm reasonable town. Try to elide past the reasoning part to get me to skip to the reasonable "focus elsewhere" part. Again, you can (temporarily) end this by actually voting somebody instead of digging your feet in. Which, uh, you're the one that thinks this is a waste of time. I definitely don't think this is a waste of time or I wouldn't be spending time on it. @Everybody else: If you think this is a town/town fight, and would like to break it up, please step in. I'll gladly listen to that request from anybody not named PentaFlare. It is probably town fight but I am not sure about you malo, one thing is before you are stating all those you forget to consider us. You only think of him and Pentaflare which is not the case here, and Penta is not someone who follows what you will say. It also needs a bit of psychological evidence of how Penta will act in certain situation, have you played with him before? If you have not sadly I dont think this is legit. Tbh if I were him I wouldn't follow what you were saying since... why would I? Also you are assuming he decides you are a reasonable town.. OH well. |
Jul 23, 2016 2:57 AM
#412
Fo said: aa-dono said: What has happened within their dynamic to make you think they're more or less likely to be scum together?What are the odds of Penta and Claire as scumbuddies? I am not scum so we could not be scum buddies, I cannot say the same to him though. aa-dono said: Fo said: Claire's always paranoid about Penta being mafia. She's not doing that much here. She's sure and stubborn, but she's always actively pursuing. So I find it odd that she doesn't do that to Penta.aa-dono said: What are the odds of Penta and Claire as scumbuddies? It's just a passing thought. -> the possibility of them just re-enacting the back-forth early argument they have. -> In our last Pirate game, Claire already learn that she can use her paranoia when she's scum. -> they're both less likely to vote for their buddies. -> Penta dropped his vote -> Claire doesn't bug him for his weird entrance or later posts. If Penta is truly town, he should see from my post that I am town. I am more confident as town and I just say whatever, so he should have realized I am town by this time. I am not bugging since this is what.. 3rd time or so he did it to me? 4th? :/ aa-dono said: oh Claire's here o/ Playing 3 games is so exhausting I want to be repped in one of the games tbh... ;----; |
Jul 23, 2016 2:57 AM
#413
_Claire_ said: turquoise_neko said: LucianRoy said: turquoise_neko said: yeah, everyone (*joking) I usually tend to get scummreads later, but I think there is a scum among those that are voting for Penta or Nightwing. Are you talking the current train? Or the collective people who've voted them throughout the course of the game. If so, that's a lot of people. The random votes before can mean anything, so i won't look too much into it, but the current train is interesting to watch. Now sleep zzz.zzz What do you think of current train? [4] PentaFlare - Fo, Nightwing, mallorean_thug, SympathyDolphin, aa-dono Well, I can understand Mallo and Sympathydolphin's motives for voting Penta, Aa-dono doesn't like penta's attitude, Fo thinks Penta is scum, but Nightwing's reason I don't understand so the scummiest votes on Penta's train would be Aa-dono and Nighwing |
Jul 23, 2016 2:59 AM
#414
turquoise_neko said: _Claire_ said: turquoise_neko said: LucianRoy said: turquoise_neko said: yeah, everyone (*joking) I usually tend to get scummreads later, but I think there is a scum among those that are voting for Penta or Nightwing. Are you talking the current train? Or the collective people who've voted them throughout the course of the game. If so, that's a lot of people. The random votes before can mean anything, so i won't look too much into it, but the current train is interesting to watch. Now sleep zzz.zzz What do you think of current train? [4] PentaFlare - Fo, Nightwing, mallorean_thug, SympathyDolphin, aa-dono Well, I can understand Mallo and Sympathydolphin's motives for voting Penta, Aa-dono doesn't like penta's attitude, Fo thinks Penta is scum, but Nightwing's reason I don't understand so the scummiest votes on Penta's train would be Aa-dono and Nighwing I have not exactly read everything through but @aa-dono you don't like his attitude? His meta has not changed at all and you dont like his attitude why so? @Fo why you think he is scum in case I don't see the post. From my last game with you I should say you are a good scum-hunter.. well~? @Nightwing Well I learnt this guy is extremely silent if he is scum. |
Jul 23, 2016 3:13 AM
#415
_Claire_ said: That's only what Neko deduced. turquoise_neko said: _Claire_ said: turquoise_neko said: LucianRoy said: turquoise_neko said: yeah, everyone (*joking) I usually tend to get scummreads later, but I think there is a scum among those that are voting for Penta or Nightwing. Are you talking the current train? Or the collective people who've voted them throughout the course of the game. If so, that's a lot of people. The random votes before can mean anything, so i won't look too much into it, but the current train is interesting to watch. Now sleep zzz.zzz What do you think of current train? [4] PentaFlare - Fo, Nightwing, mallorean_thug, SympathyDolphin, aa-dono Well, I can understand Mallo and Sympathydolphin's motives for voting Penta, Aa-dono doesn't like penta's attitude, Fo thinks Penta is scum, but Nightwing's reason I don't understand so the scummiest votes on Penta's train would be Aa-dono and Nighwing I have not exactly read everything through but @aa-dono you don't like his attitude? His meta has not changed at all and you dont like his attitude why so? @Fo why you think he is scum in case I don't see the post. From my last game with you I should say you are a good scum-hunter.. well~? @Nightwing Well I learnt this guy is extremely silent if he is scum. I don't like what he's doing because it's not helpful. He have 72 hours to help find scum, and he use that to defend himself with a "you'll know what I'm doing later" but what he's doing is just basically lurking and defending himself. When someone pressure someone else, they allow others to read them, and also share more things each doesn't notice before. He knows this more that I do. But he's not doing that. And I know Penta likes to be mysterious, but he's not contradictory. I want explanations. Second to that is @turquoise_neko . Not contributing to a vote and not reading the flow of thoughts. Not liking trains but judge town/scum from an not-yet-finalize train instead of their posts. What about Dolphin's vote that you understand? |
Jul 23, 2016 3:23 AM
#416
| @PentaFlare Has your opinion on @aa-dono changed? If not, feel free to elaborate (or don't). just a simple (possibly stupid) question. |
Living is a velleity, because ice cream is life. |
Jul 23, 2016 4:06 AM
#417
aa-dono said: _Claire_ said: That's only what Neko deduced. turquoise_neko said: _Claire_ said: turquoise_neko said: LucianRoy said: turquoise_neko said: yeah, everyone (*joking) I usually tend to get scummreads later, but I think there is a scum among those that are voting for Penta or Nightwing. Are you talking the current train? Or the collective people who've voted them throughout the course of the game. If so, that's a lot of people. The random votes before can mean anything, so i won't look too much into it, but the current train is interesting to watch. Now sleep zzz.zzz What do you think of current train? [4] PentaFlare - Fo, Nightwing, mallorean_thug, SympathyDolphin, aa-dono Well, I can understand Mallo and Sympathydolphin's motives for voting Penta, Aa-dono doesn't like penta's attitude, Fo thinks Penta is scum, but Nightwing's reason I don't understand so the scummiest votes on Penta's train would be Aa-dono and Nighwing I have not exactly read everything through but @aa-dono you don't like his attitude? His meta has not changed at all and you dont like his attitude why so? @Fo why you think he is scum in case I don't see the post. From my last game with you I should say you are a good scum-hunter.. well~? @Nightwing Well I learnt this guy is extremely silent if he is scum. I don't like what he's doing because it's not helpful. He have 72 hours to help find scum, and he use that to defend himself with a "you'll know what I'm doing later" but what he's doing is just basically lurking and defending himself. When someone pressure someone else, they allow others to read them, and also share more things each doesn't notice before. He knows this more that I do. But he's not doing that. And I know Penta likes to be mysterious, but he's not contradictory. I want explanations. Second to that is @turquoise_neko . Not contributing to a vote and not reading the flow of thoughts. Not liking trains but judge town/scum from an not-yet-finalize train instead of their posts. What about Dolphin's vote that you understand? Okay so I misunderstood what you meant about penta. Of course I don't like train votes because the second they form then everybody jumps on them although maybe before they wouldn't have voted for that person and about judging it's perfectly normal to judge votes regardless if they're train votes or not and as i said before I'm not a telepath and my judgement isn't flawless. I said i will vote just not yet. Please explain to me what reading the flow of thoughts means? Well dolphin gave a quick reverse vote, I don't think it's final. |
Jul 23, 2016 5:59 AM
#419
_Claire_ said: Are you scared of being voted on? I have the impression so anyway. Since he said the reason he voted for me was because I thought his vote was a joke I want to know if that is true I find that pretty scummy |
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Jul 23, 2016 6:10 AM
#420
turquoise_neko said: aa-dono said: _Claire_ said: turquoise_neko said: _Claire_ said: turquoise_neko said: LucianRoy said: turquoise_neko said: yeah, everyone (*joking) I usually tend to get scummreads later, but I think there is a scum among those that are voting for Penta or Nightwing. Are you talking the current train? Or the collective people who've voted them throughout the course of the game. If so, that's a lot of people. The random votes before can mean anything, so i won't look too much into it, but the current train is interesting to watch. Now sleep zzz.zzz What do you think of current train? [4] PentaFlare - Fo, Nightwing, mallorean_thug, SympathyDolphin, aa-dono Well, I can understand Mallo and Sympathydolphin's motives for voting Penta, Aa-dono doesn't like penta's attitude, Fo thinks Penta is scum, but Nightwing's reason I don't understand so the scummiest votes on Penta's train would be Aa-dono and Nighwing I have not exactly read everything through but @aa-dono you don't like his attitude? His meta has not changed at all and you dont like his attitude why so? @Fo why you think he is scum in case I don't see the post. From my last game with you I should say you are a good scum-hunter.. well~? @Nightwing Well I learnt this guy is extremely silent if he is scum. I don't like what he's doing because it's not helpful. He have 72 hours to help find scum, and he use that to defend himself with a "you'll know what I'm doing later" but what he's doing is just basically lurking and defending himself. When someone pressure someone else, they allow others to read them, and also share more things each doesn't notice before. He knows this more that I do. But he's not doing that. And I know Penta likes to be mysterious, but he's not contradictory. I want explanations. Second to that is @turquoise_neko . Not contributing to a vote and not reading the flow of thoughts. Not liking trains but judge town/scum from an not-yet-finalize train instead of their posts. What about Dolphin's vote that you understand? Okay so I misunderstood what you meant about penta. Of course I don't like train votes because the second they form then everybody jumps on them although maybe before they wouldn't have voted for that person and about judging it's perfectly normal to judge votes regardless if they're train votes or not and as i said before I'm not a telepath and my judgement isn't flawless. I said i will vote just not yet. Please explain to me what reading the flow of thoughts means? Well dolphin gave a quick reverse vote, I don't think it's final. What are you waiting for? |
Jul 23, 2016 6:22 AM
#421
_Claire_ said: turquoise_neko said: _Claire_ said: turquoise_neko said: LucianRoy said: turquoise_neko said: yeah, everyone (*joking) I usually tend to get scummreads later, but I think there is a scum among those that are voting for Penta or Nightwing. Are you talking the current train? Or the collective people who've voted them throughout the course of the game. If so, that's a lot of people. The random votes before can mean anything, so i won't look too much into it, but the current train is interesting to watch. Now sleep zzz.zzz What do you think of current train? [4] PentaFlare - Fo, Nightwing, mallorean_thug, SympathyDolphin, aa-dono Well, I can understand Mallo and Sympathydolphin's motives for voting Penta, Aa-dono doesn't like penta's attitude, Fo thinks Penta is scum, but Nightwing's reason I don't understand so the scummiest votes on Penta's train would be Aa-dono and Nighwing @Nightwing Well I learnt this guy is extremely silent if he is scum. How am i silent! |
Jul 23, 2016 6:38 AM
#422
mallorean_thug said: Hey @Kasai, do you plan to move your vote? Surely you have more thoughts on somebody else by now. And I really don't dig the contrast between your stagnant vote and: Kasai said: I also didnt like how you put it out like everytime you lynched claire she ended up as anti town and its going to be like that this time its like you are putting this idea into the back of everyones heads and they will be more prone to lynching Claire. Again just putting this out there. Might be nothing. and Kasai said: Right also I mean isnt it natural to keep jumping trains in the first day in order to get as much info as possible. ohhh my vote on claire is just a little bit of revenge . I already said that she killed me in another game so I dont plan on changing my vote unless I am a hundred percent sure that someone is scum |
Jul 23, 2016 6:41 AM
#423
Kasai said: ohhh my vote on claire is just a little bit of revenge . I already said that she killed me in another game so I dont plan on changing my vote unless I am a hundred percent sure that someone is scum . . . . . . . . . |
Jul 23, 2016 6:43 AM
#424
mallorean_thug said: Kasai said: ohhh my vote on claire is just a little bit of revenge . I already said that she killed me in another game so I dont plan on changing my vote unless I am a hundred percent sure that someone is scum . . . . . . . . . lol.... |
Jul 23, 2016 6:47 AM
#425
Navizel said: Why is almost everyone like "I'll be good later" what's keeping everyone from doing it now Because no one has anything in their minds. Usually the ideas of alignments in people's mind start after the first lynch and kill. That way they can connect the dots in their minds with the interraction of the people the victim talked to. Well I am not saying that it is 100 percent impossible to catch scum in the first day but usually you dont have any idea untill somebody died. So truth be told I dont really expect anything from this phase and the fact tht its so long is actually annoying me. |
Jul 23, 2016 6:49 AM
#426
SympathyDolphin said: Vote:PentaFlare and why? |
Jul 23, 2016 6:49 AM
#427
SympathyDolphin said: Sodalicious_ said: Well that one came outta no where Any reasoning behind that one? apologies if I was gullible to make this move. penta still has a vote on me (from even before I'd posted). now I wait and see if the vote is changed/removed. So you mean it was an OMGUS vote? |
Jul 23, 2016 6:50 AM
#428
SympathyDolphin said: Sodalicious_ said: Ok Anything else about penta that makes him suspicious? Does everything count as anything? I'm tired, shouldn't be backreading at 5am in all honesty. sleep is for the weak, so I'm good. Wait now thats weird you just said you woke up and came alittle late because of family issues and you are going back to sleep again? Isnt that weird? |
Jul 23, 2016 6:51 AM
#429
SympathyDolphin said: LucianRoy said: Sleep is for the healthy and keen of mind more like it. but fuq it you're playing a game of deceit, trickery, mystery and clues. the drunker the better +1 |
Jul 23, 2016 6:52 AM
#430
SympathyDolphin said: Sodalicious_ said: Quick quick You haven't answered Aa-dono or Lucy+my question fights are good. trains are coming up too early maybe, but what would I know, haven't been present for the first 24. You are saying it like you are suprised that trains formed. You know that a normal day phase is 24 hours right? So isnt it normal to have a few trains in the first few hours despite this being a longer phase? |
Jul 23, 2016 6:52 AM
#431
SympathyDolphin said: aa-dono said: SympathyDolphin said: aa-dono said: SympathyDolphin said: So you're trying to threaten him into removing his vote on you?Sodalicious_ said: Well that one came outta no where Any reasoning behind that one? apologies if I was gullible to make this move. penta still has a vote on me (from even before I'd posted). now I wait and see if the vote is changed/removed. it doesn't quite work if I have to explain it fully to everyone. It could help. third party play here. |
Jul 23, 2016 6:53 AM
#432
aa-dono said: LucianRoy said: I like how he moved from pressuring Nightwing to voting Penta, his scumread.Aside from speaking in double to triple entendres, Dono, read on Fo? It's like "I don't have a lead yet, but if pressuring Nightwing can get me one, sure" to "Oh hey, I found scum! Pursue him." I don't quite understand how he found Penta scum, but if he was scum himself, he could have stayed in Nightwing's train longer. So he's my less-likely-to-be-scum or town (though I don't like to use the latter because I have the bad habit to ignore my townread). Did you seriously look for logic in roy's play. I stopped doing that like a long time ago. |
Jul 23, 2016 7:02 AM
#433
PentaFlare said: It wouldn't be a good game without me pulling some kind of oddball play. People have said often that I am an easy lynch on Day 1 that scum like to take advantage of. So this time, I've tried to see what I can do to play that up. Here's what I've noted about each of the people who have voted for me so far: Soda Initially an RVS vote, but he keeps it on with the reasoning that "I haven't done anything helpful to town". I don't like this. He hasn't provided examples of something that makes me scummy, he is just saying I don't seem townlike. That's a bad reason to be voting for someone when you could instead be pressuring players who actually seem scummy or who you know give good clues when pressured. I was neither of those to him. This vote seems more like scum just taking advantage of the fact that my train grew without any help from them. He stayed on while avoided any actually reasoning. Bad vote. Fo He's just reading too much into my initial impression of Lucian. His vote isn't scummy, his reasoning is just flawed. I'll need more information to put context to this vote before I can decide if I like it or I don't. If I had to pick, this vote would be slightly townish, but it doesn't carry much weight in terms of how I will read Fo. Nightwing Bad vote. He's jumping ahead and suggesting possible scenarios that have not occurred as a basis to scumread me. Bad, bad vote. Kasai Kasai didn't actually vote for me. They just accused me of being scummy and then stated their agreement with the reasons people had for voting me. After all that, they didn't place a vote. They are setting up the option to join the train if it stays strong later in the phase without actually being held accountable for being part of it yet. This is definitely something to keep in mind. mallo This one was a pretty good vote. I like it. They were voting for turquoise at the time, who they deemed to be scummy, but were also pressuring me because I was online and was slightly suspicious. That suspicion developed and so they moved their vote onto me with lynch intent, fully believing I was scum. We need more votes like this. Sympathy Awful vote. They seem to expect that I'll change my vote because they voted for me instead? That doesn't have anything to do with me being suspicious or helping to further a town wincon. That's self-preservation. I'm going to leave my vote here for now, though I have a handful of other suspects I want to push a bit before the end of the phase. Shortened for reference: mallo - good vote Fo - null vote Kasai - weird lack of vote Nightwing - bad vote Soda - scummy stagnation of vote Sympathy - awful vote Yeah this is actually a good post. If this is a train that was created by scum we can actually find who it is. Though I dont thnik I agree with his read on soda. I mean on the first day it is a pretty good reason to vote someone f-with the reasoning they dont seem town. We dont have any info as there are no deaths so we should vote with either our guts or the posts they made. This is what soda is doing here. At least I think thats what it is. Still I might be as well wrong so I am not gonna say I am reading soda town. About penta's train the person that picks my attention is the late comer dolphin. Who made an OMGUS vote and disappeared afterwards. I mean that is a pretty scummy play. Even if he is not a scum I am almost sure that person is not town so he might be a third party. Thats why it would be better if people questioned him more rather than just ignoring it. About my lack of vote. It was a post I created to show what I think and honestly I still think that post was pretty scummy but I cant say that I am 100 percent sure that you are scum so I wont change my vote. I already said the reason in another post and too lazy to type it again. |
Jul 23, 2016 7:03 AM
#434
Sodalicious_ said: Unvote: Penta Because he finally did shit Thank you Idec if he says my vote was bad and that me unvoting is probably going to make things worse looking for me but *clap* You did a think penta I'm proud of you You are right it actuallys worsens your image. |
Jul 23, 2016 7:04 AM
#435
He doesnt know it so why dont you enlighten us? |
Jul 23, 2016 7:06 AM
#436
Karote said: you know what contributing kasai = scum Vote change: Kasai did you change your meta or wut? I changed meta. Thats like kinda my thing you know? I mean in my last scum game I lurked in the other scum game I participated and the one before that i did not talk unless somebody adressed me. I mean changing meta is kinda like my thing. You of all people should know that. |
Jul 23, 2016 7:06 AM
#437
Karote said: by actually posting opinions and asking questions. which he usually doesn't as town and is stubborn to look anti-town. I caught him as SK in Hetalia mafia when he played like this. Oh yeah that was a fun game :D |
Jul 23, 2016 7:10 AM
#438
Fo said: It's weak; but kasai's posting on page 5 is underwhelming as fuck. Scumreads karote but doesn't vote him. Some theory stuff. Then some boring questions to Nightwing about reads (and not reads reads, just like, the term reads lol) that don't really strike me as the kind of questions where you're gonna get anything worthwhile for reading someone out of the answers. KASAI SHOW ME SOME ACTUAL MEAT OR DIE Lol never thought that people would actually mind me keeping my vote on claire. |
Jul 23, 2016 7:14 AM
#439
_Claire_ said: Kasai said: _Claire_ said: Kasai said: Yeah she was mafia in our last game and killed me. She slipped that out in one of our skype chats. I have got haters here. Vote: mallorean How much have you played mafia games so far? Shouldnt be a suprise I even said I was gonna vote you for this :] What? I think your read on me is so forced. Are you still salty from Pirate games? :'> Yeah I am salty. edit: Also whats with my read on you? I never read you this game? |
Jul 23, 2016 7:14 AM
#440
| what am I to answer? I've cleared everything up with an unclear/nonexistent motive. |
Living is a velleity, because ice cream is life. |
Jul 23, 2016 7:17 AM
#441
_Claire_ said: Kasai said: LucianRoy said: Meta reading meta reads. Now that's bad play. Yeah I know. I think it is bad too but some people think it is useful (claire) Tbh if I get complains about how I play I am going to be asked to be repped out. Thanks. I have no time to deal with you haters, if you dont like it go to staffs and complain and see if they get me hell outta mafia forum games. OR just ignore me completely. Thanks. Are you scared of being voted on? I have the impression so anyway. turquoise_neko said: LucianRoy said: turquoise_neko said: yeah, everyone (*joking) I usually tend to get scummreads later, but I think there is a scum among those that are voting for Penta or Nightwing. Are you talking the current train? Or the collective people who've voted them throughout the course of the game. If so, that's a lot of people. The random votes before can mean anything, so i won't look too much into it, but the current train is interesting to watch. Now sleep zzz.zzz What do you think of current train? Whats with agresiveness here? Its almost like you are trying to get attention of with bursting out like penta does when he is mafia |
Jul 23, 2016 7:18 AM
#442
turquoise_neko said: _Claire_ said: turquoise_neko said: LucianRoy said: turquoise_neko said: yeah, everyone (*joking) I usually tend to get scummreads later, but I think there is a scum among those that are voting for Penta or Nightwing. Are you talking the current train? Or the collective people who've voted them throughout the course of the game. If so, that's a lot of people. The random votes before can mean anything, so i won't look too much into it, but the current train is interesting to watch. Now sleep zzz.zzz What do you think of current train? [4] PentaFlare - Fo, Nightwing, mallorean_thug, SympathyDolphin, aa-dono Well, I can understand Mallo and Sympathydolphin's motives for voting Penta, Aa-dono doesn't like penta's attitude, Fo thinks Penta is scum, but Nightwing's reason I don't understand so the scummiest votes on Penta's train would be Aa-dono and Nighwing Wait how can you understand dolphins vote for penta. I mean it is antitown as hell |
Jul 23, 2016 7:19 AM
#443
Kasai said: Because no one has anything in their minds. Usually the ideas of alignments in people's mind start after the first lynch and kill. That way they can connect the dots in their minds with the interraction of the people the victim talked to. Well I am not saying that it is 100 percent impossible to catch scum in the first day but usually you dont have any idea untill somebody died. So truth be told I dont really expect anything from this phase and the fact tht its so long is actually annoying me. This attitude is completely anti-town and naive. What is the current difference between scum and town? Well, town know nothing, and scum knows everything. They have completely different win conditions. Is it possible to see the difference between those two sets of information and mindsets? Yes, of course it is. Kasai, if you don't plan to participate toDay, I don't want you to participate toMorrow. Vote Kasai |
Jul 23, 2016 7:23 AM
#444
mallorean_thug said: Kasai said: Because no one has anything in their minds. Usually the ideas of alignments in people's mind start after the first lynch and kill. That way they can connect the dots in their minds with the interraction of the people the victim talked to. Well I am not saying that it is 100 percent impossible to catch scum in the first day but usually you dont have any idea untill somebody died. So truth be told I dont really expect anything from this phase and the fact tht its so long is actually annoying me. This attitude is completely anti-town and naive. What is the current difference between scum and town? Well, town know nothing, and scum knows everything. They have completely different win conditions. Is it possible to see the difference between those two sets of information and mindsets? Yes, of course it is. Kasai, if you don't plan to participate toDay, I don't want you to participate toMorrow. Vote Kasai Oh really? I like how you are reading what I said for your own favour. If you had really read what I said you should have noticed that I said catching scum on the first day through their posts can be done but is very hard and I said I dont expect anything from this day phase. I meant we wont be able to catch scum this way. I did not say we wont try or stop trying. I told my honest thoughts about how much the town sucked. |
Jul 23, 2016 7:25 AM
#445
Kasai said: I told my honest thoughts about how much the town sucked. Ok. So don't be part of the problem. |
Jul 23, 2016 7:27 AM
#446
mallorean_thug said: Kasai said: I told my honest thoughts about how much the town sucked. Ok. So don't be part of the problem. Oh so I should keep my opinions to myself. Thats a first normally people tell me to talk about my opinions not keep them to myself. If that is what you want me to do the so be it. |
Jul 23, 2016 7:27 AM
#447
| Like, you just said that you don't have a read on the person you're voting. How am I supposed to know who you think is the scummiest? How are you trying to get that person lynched instead of somebody else? How I am supposed to clear you based on how you handle the above? |
Jul 23, 2016 7:30 AM
#448
mallorean_thug said: Like, you just said that you don't have a read on the person you're voting. How am I supposed to know who you think is the scummiest? How are you trying to get that person lynched instead of somebody else? How I am supposed to clear you based on how you handle the above? Yu just told me to keep my opinions to myself. Now you are giving mixed messages. |
Jul 23, 2016 7:31 AM
#449
| No no no, I /want/ you to share your opinions. You know, by voting the person you think is the scummiest. But we also have a secondary motivation for who we want to lynch toDay. If we can't find scum, like you think we won't, we want to lynch somebody that the scum team won't ever kill for us. So, somebody that isn't making their alignment clear and won't be helpful later. Because I don't know about you, but I don't want to be stuck in LYLO with a townie like that, it would probably end in a mislynch and tears. So town needs to be making every effort to NOT be that person. Currently, you are that person. Not quite as badly as a couple other players, but you're well within my "acceptable Day1 lynch" bucket. |
Jul 23, 2016 7:32 AM
#450
I told you to stop being part of town sucking. Not to stop sharing opinions like "town sucks". Though I don't think that's a useful opinion. To me, a useful opinion is in the form of "I think Player X is the scummiest. And now I'm voting them" |
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