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Jun 27, 2016 5:29 PM
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Honestly the part that pissed me off about this episode wasnt Subaru's autism but the whole royal selection thing in the courtroom

>everyone speaks out of turn and argues for no reason other than to try and create drama
>everyone gives bullshit reasons as to why they want to be the queen besides Emilia (gee I wonder who Im supposed to be rooting for)
>Felt literally threatens to destroy the whole nation and kill everyone and the old guy just says 'wow she's quite intense huh' and they do NOTHING
>Old Man Rom breaks into the room, creates a smokescreen, and attempts to snatch Felt away, gets death penalty, but Felt just says 'hey let him go okay' and they just do

It's all so dumb and terribly written


yeah to be honest thats one of bigger complaints for me apart form shitbaru

I expected politics and subterfuge, I got bunch of people shouting and screaming at each other. Like, whaaaat. That was as subtle as hitting someone in a face with a brick. Certainly not what I expected from an actual political part of the show.

I hope its handled better next week.


It was handled perfectly. Did you just imply that people don't shout and scream at each other in politics of our world? Yeah... Now realize that in this show, characters are powerful. There's no bullets for them to fear going through their brain. Instead, they're given magic. It makes them much more confident individuals. For one can be much stronger than another.

Priscilla even threatened Felt with magic. In our world, would a politician threaten another with a gun in the senate? Unlikely.
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QWERTYFish25 said:
I don't mean to sound like I'm asking for sadist porn here but can we get Subaru crying like a bitch while his princess gets her fingernails ripped off with pliers or some shit? Since we're pretty much pandering with the royal selection, let's bump it up a notch. Let's show him how well tantrums work in this world.


Haha, you are going to really love the upcoming episodes
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Hongu said:
QWERTYFish25 said:
I don't mean to sound like I'm asking for sadist porn here but can we get Subaru crying like a bitch while his princess gets her fingernails ripped off with pliers or some shit? Since we're pretty much pandering with the royal selection, let's bump it up a notch. Let's show him how well tantrums work in this world.
Oh boy, you're going to love the upcoming episodes.


Ikr, pretty close haha
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nyariko said:
Man, that was harder to watch than last episode. Subaru's cringe-inducing behavior has just been over the line for me lately to the point where I have to pause multiple times just to fully comprehend how stupid he is. I'm also considering dropping my score because of how annoying I find him to be. He really just needs to learn how to stop acting out of line so that he doesn't find himself in bad situations. It was horrible watching him fight Julius because he didn't listen to Emilia's plead for him not to attend the selection. I feel like he deserved everything that came to him this episode.

On a good note, though, I enjoyed Felt's reintroduction.


I'm inclined to agree. The writing in the last two episodes has been significantly weaker than the rest of the series. It's one thing for Subaru to break down and be frustrated that his deeds have gone essentially unrewarded. It is another to do so when the person whose attention you are trying to get is the one you are complaining to. Subaru went full retard with his self entitlement and Emilia went full retard by not even asking any questions. This last episode just left me extremely frustrated and fearful of where the story is heading. I don't care to see Subaru going all emo.
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Does anyone else feel Subaru should just kill himself to reset back to a point and mend his mistakes...I mean, he couldn't have made it any worse for himself.
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Fai said:


yeah to be honest thats one of bigger complaints for me apart form shitbaru

I expected politics and subterfuge, I got bunch of people shouting and screaming at each other. Like, whaaaat. That was as subtle as hitting someone in a face with a brick. Certainly not what I expected from an actual political part of the show.

I hope its handled better next week.


It was handled perfectly. Did you just imply that people don't shout and scream at each other in politics of our world? Yeah... Now realize that in this show, characters are powerful. There's no bullets for them to fear going through their brain. Instead, they're given magic. It makes them much more confident individuals. For one can be much stronger than another.

Priscilla even threatened Felt with magic. In our world, would a politician threaten another with a gun in the senate? Unlikely.


I disagree, while not all of the the faux pauxs of this world apply here, there are some things that could've been better said. As I stated before somewhere else there was an unsettling level of tactlessness present and no matter how much power each individual has they ultimately have to prove themselves worth to the audience. The way they did that was blatantly obnoxious and stripped any elegance the situation and room had. We can argue about how they've already proved their worth by being "chosen" by the emblem and all but the fact still remains only one can be chosen for candidate. There's still a means in which that title will be awarded. While I don't think it'll be a full-blown battle tournament I'm suspecting that there will be some physical challenges involved, be it because the plot leads them to it or it simply being stated. This still doesn't excuse the overt shorthand of archetypal phrases we were bombarded with this episode. The only real purpose I sensed from it all was 1) to indicate which tropes they embody and 2) to further highlight Emilia's "pure heart" nature bullshit we can't seem to get enough of, I think I'm getting a sugar rush just thinking about it. I swear if heart-snatchers existed in this world there would be hundreds lined up in front of the mansion.
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iRels said:


It was handled perfectly. Did you just imply that people don't shout and scream at each other in politics of our world? Yeah... Now realize that in this show, characters are powerful. There's no bullets for them to fear going through their brain. Instead, they're given magic. It makes them much more confident individuals. For one can be much stronger than another.

Priscilla even threatened Felt with magic. In our world, would a politician threaten another with a gun in the senate? Unlikely.


I disagree, while not all of the the faux pauxs of this world apply here, there are some things that could've been better said. As I stated before somewhere else there was an unsettling level of tactlessness present and no matter how much power each individual has they ultimately have to prove themselves worth to the audience. The way they did that was blatantly obnoxious and stripped any elegance the situation and room had. We can argue about how they've already proved their worth by being "chosen" by the emblem and all but the fact still remains only one can be chosen for candidate. There's still a means in which that title will be awarded. While I don't think it'll be a full-blown battle tournament I'm suspecting that there will be some physical challenges involved, be it because the plot leads them to it or it simply being stated. This still doesn't excuse the overt shorthand of archetypal phrases we were bombarded with this episode. The only real purpose I sensed from it all was 1) to indicate which tropes they embody and 2) to further highlight Emilia's "pure heart" nature bullshit we can't seem to get enough of, I think I'm getting a sugar rush just thinking about it. I swear if heart-snatchers existed in this world there would be hundreds lined up in front of the mansion.


It kind of showed with the candidates.

hmm:
- sadistic ojousama prone to outbursts
- unrepentant capitalist
- strict military girl
- "I want to destroy this whole country!"

versus "I want equality to everyone!" communist Emilia.
Hmm,I wonder if show is trying to tell me something, hmmmm
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- sadistic ojousama prone to outbursts; Make (whatever the fucking country is called) great again.
- unrepentant capitalist; Hillary for (Again, whatever this place is called).
-"I want equality to everyone!" Feel the Bern.
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nyariko said:
Man, that was harder to watch than last episode. Subaru's cringe-inducing behavior has just been over the line for me lately to the point where I have to pause multiple times just to fully comprehend how stupid he is. I'm also considering dropping my score because of how annoying I find him to be. He really just needs to learn how to stop acting out of line so that he doesn't find himself in bad situations. It was horrible watching him fight Julius because he didn't listen to Emilia's plead for him not to attend the selection. I feel like he deserved everything that came to him this episode.

On a good note, though, I enjoyed Felt's reintroduction.


I'm inclined to agree. The writing in the last two episodes has been significantly weaker than the rest of the series. It's one thing for Subaru to break down and be frustrated that his deeds have gone essentially unrewarded. It is another to do so when the person whose attention you are trying to get is the one you are complaining to. Subaru went full retard with his self entitlement and Emilia went full retard by not even asking any questions. This last episode just left me extremely frustrated and fearful of where the story is heading. I don't care to see Subaru going all emo.


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Last episode made subaru my favorite character
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It's like he doesn't understand the word "Don't".

Also, lol. Suddenly arch rival with purple hair boy for almost no reason at all. GG.
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iRels said:


It was handled perfectly. Did you just imply that people don't shout and scream at each other in politics of our world? Yeah... Now realize that in this show, characters are powerful. There's no bullets for them to fear going through their brain. Instead, they're given magic. It makes them much more confident individuals. For one can be much stronger than another.

Priscilla even threatened Felt with magic. In our world, would a politician threaten another with a gun in the senate? Unlikely.


I disagree, while not all of the the faux pauxs of this world apply here, there are some things that could've been better said. As I stated before somewhere else there was an unsettling level of tactlessness present and no matter how much power each individual has they ultimately have to prove themselves worth to the audience. The way they did that was blatantly obnoxious and stripped any elegance the situation and room had. We can argue about how they've already proved their worth by being "chosen" by the emblem and all but the fact still remains only one can be chosen for candidate. There's still a means in which that title will be awarded. While I don't think it'll be a full-blown battle tournament I'm suspecting that there will be some physical challenges involved, be it because the plot leads them to it or it simply being stated. This still doesn't excuse the overt shorthand of archetypal phrases we were bombarded with this episode. The only real purpose I sensed from it all was 1) to indicate which tropes they embody and 2) to further highlight Emilia's "pure heart" nature bullshit we can't seem to get enough of, I think I'm getting a sugar rush just thinking about it. I swear if heart-snatchers existed in this world there would be hundreds lined up in front of the mansion.


'Better said'? They were confidently honest. They told the audience who they are. Because they've succeeded that way. They were strong even before being chosen. In their own way. Even Felt, with the blessing she possess. Emilia, with the support of a 'great spirit'.

So you'd have wanted them to appear...tamed? Hahah. It'd not fit. They were known to the people there. Crusch was familiar with the old man. They already had a reputation in the town. Priscilla too, called the knight Marcus by his name and such.

There's no place for tactics, being in everyone's view. It'd be seen right through. Honesty was the best choice. They're not afraid.

Nor is the author of using known tropes.
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This was in my opinion one of the best episodes yet. Despite Subaru's cringey actions and his overall attitude, I think this was an episode to set up for some major development for Subaru's character.

And honestly, this claim can go both ways but while I did find Subaru's actions to be over the top and reckless, I don't think I'm in any position to criticize him, seeing as I have no clue how I'd react to being in a completely new world, experiencing traumatizing deaths and literally feeling like my entire life is for this person who saved me and gave me purpose. I have no clue how I'd react to not being understood and having it be impossible for me to explain my situation. I can't even imagine how tough it must be.

Anyways, back on topic I hope that Subaru shows some serious growth as a character, and in that sense, Sunday can't come fast enough!
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Killuan said:
Does anyone else feel Subaru should just kill himself to reset back to a point and mend his mistakes...I mean, he couldn't have made it any worse for himself.


Nah, I think he should use this as a lesson and reflect on his actions and figure out a way to solve this without committing suicide. Plus we don't know where his new save point is at and killing himself to fix this situation would only mess his mental state up more.
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Subaru needs to go back to the bonfire
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He deserved it to be honest, Subaru was kind of showing off and really becoming insane i guess? but i loved it for multiple reasons,

the main one is because this really sets the theme and how Subaru will probably have motivation to do things for Emilia and good to see felt back again if i am right its been like 10 episodes XD
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I have to admit the candidate speeches were a bit disappointing in this episode. In the LN, each candidate was presented as radical, but their speeches somehow made them controversial and convincing at the same time. We got none of that here, which is unfortunate.
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ooooooh crap. Subaru snapped. xD

That looked like an LQ lol and now they sort of broke up. sort of. *sigh*

S/O to the people who point out what were missing on the anime, at least I won't have to read the whole manga/LN to look for the differences. :P
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Judgment526 said:
I have to admit the candidate speeches were a bit disappointing in this episode. In the LN, each candidate was presented as radical, but their speeches somehow made them controversial and convincing at the same time. We got none of that here, which is unfortunate.


They probably wanted to rush this part to fit the whole arc 3 in this season.
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now i know why ppl rooting for rem besides emilia. Since last episode i wonder how can rem become best girl if emilia stay cute girl every time, well still rem will win, but when emilia get the spotlight i believe she will get that throne again. then this episode happen, showing emilia has no interest in subaru, except for helping her got rid her problems before. i don't care about the drama anyway, since i watch this anime for the character designs only. to me, emilia, pryscilla, and anastasia char design is far better than rem and ram char design.
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Judgment526 said:
I have to admit the candidate speeches were a bit disappointing in this episode. In the LN, each candidate was presented as radical, but their speeches somehow made them controversial and convincing at the same time. We got none of that here, which is unfortunate.


They probably wanted to rush this part to fit the whole arc 3 in this season.


MAaybe they should've focused less on Subaru's faffing development and more on moving the story along.

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There's no place for tactics,


Not tactics, tact. Their power doesn't exclude being easily taken down by a competitor or a supporter. Emilia's "great spirit" didn't stop her from being taken out with one blow by an assassin That same Assassin cut Felt clean in half, like she was a bad joke. Her candidacy doesn't protect her any more than any other form of nobility, even less actually. One thing you don't do is give reason for people to rally behind your rivals or take you down personally. This isn't a matter of how strong you are, but rather a matter reality, but I digress since this is nothing of the sort. This anime won't play out the events of bad wording unless it's directly relevant to the plot, particularly for Subaru, I'm assuming.

There was one anime where a reliable underling of the big bad king had the gall to mention his deeds with regards to sweeping things under for him in the past. As a means of keeping him from forgetting about him and furthering his son's status who had drawn closer to him due to the king's son becoming increasingly insubordinate. Unfortunately this doesn't rub the king very well, what with actually being one of low birth, and reminds him of a very powerless state he struggled to abandon. Tactfully he offers the offender to a sword match in seclusion. Nervously, the man accepts and realizes the error of his ways all while his son watches on in horror, witnessing the beastly rage of his king that takes his father's life in front of him.

Here the consequence of over stepping your position too soon.
The sneaky way he is done in and conveniently constructed the scenario in which his son, who has proven capable/useful can easily understand just what happens to those who, in any sense threaten him.

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now i know why ppl rooting for rem besides emilia. Since last episode i wonder how can rem become best girl if emilia stay cute girl every time, well still rem will win, but when emilia get the spotlight i believe she will get that throne again. then this episode happen, showing emilia has no interest in subaru, except for helping her got rid her problems before. i don't care about the drama anyway, since i watch this anime for the character designs only. to me, emilia, pryscilla, and anastasia char design is far better than rem and ram char design.


My problem is she is nothing I haven't seen before. Right now she only serves as a pinup for the "white_hair" tag on the boorus.
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QWERTYFish25 said:

My problem is she is nothing I haven't seen before. Right now she only serves as a pinup for the "white_hair" tag on the boorus.


i think i have that fetish, lol. but srsly, after this happen, subaru will get the loop (i'm not source reader btw, im just saying/guessing this because that is the plot device) with the purpose of getting trust from emilia, since he already trashed here. so she will never be best girl anymore, sigh. i think i'll have to root for anastasia then, because i love her accent.
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Bl4ckR4bbi7 said:
Rem will be there for him, but things will be fucked up more, I think the more he was attached to the person the more he would be fucked up, what a pitiful curse to him ;-; *sobs*


Will see, but it's Subaru, he will find a way ;)
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QWERTYFish25 said:

iRels said:
There's no place for tactics,


Not tactics, tact. Their power doesn't exclude being easily taken down by a competitor or a supporter. Emilia's "great spirit" didn't stop her from being taken out with one blow by an assassin That same Assassin cut Felt clean in half, like she was a bad joke. Her candidacy doesn't protect her any more than any other form of nobility, even less actually. One thing you don't do is give reason for people to rally behind your rivals or take you down personally. This isn't a matter of how strong you are, but rather a matter reality, but I digress since this is nothing of the sort. This anime won't play out the events of bad wording unless it's directly relevant to the plot, particularly for Subaru, I'm assuming.


Tact? So avoid being offensive? Practically the same. But who's to say that it's wrong of them to act the way they do? Anastasia, Priscilla and Crusch... They were all too casual. If they that know better, don't find it wrong to be, I won't, either.

From Felt, it's only to be expected that she'd be so wild. She wasn't well-educated. About Emilia and her, anyone's vulnerable to surprise attacks. That's not even an argument to be used. It's something so obvious. It doesn't makes their power less significant. Because their power is already measured with that in consideration. And their candidacy gives them importance. Anyone attempting something against them, will attract many others' attention. It complicates everything. Making enemies? Again, they felt confident enough. Aldebaran commented on it. But Priscilla is who she is. She won't change when there's no need to. Yes, their reality - it's something they're professionals at... (Except the odd ones.) That's what it means to succeed so well. Again, their wording's fine. They're adults. In their own world.
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Fai said:


hmm:
- sadistic ojousama prone to outbursts
- unrepentant capitalist
- strict military girl
- "I want to destroy this whole country!"

versus "I want equality to everyone!" communist Emilia.
Hmm,I wonder if show is trying to tell me something, hmmmm


Sometimes watching how thick some people can be becomes less funny and more sad.

Judgment526 said:
I have to admit the candidate speeches were a bit disappointing in this episode. In the LN, each candidate was presented as radical, but their speeches somehow made them controversial and convincing at the same time. We got none of that here, which is unfortunate.


Agreed. But weren't most important things in that volume so if anything could be reduce it was that.
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I didn't get one thing. Reinhard told that he found Felt about one month but wasn't it just over a week ago? Starting from the moment when he found her (end of 1st arc), Subaru moved with Emilia to her country-house where events happened within a week. The way current arc started, it looks like that events of second arc happened just a few days ago so in total it should be 1-2 weeks, not the whole month.


dude it's a month please count again :D
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I got the feel between subaru and emilia, very good episode 5/5 this is my first post in ReZero episode discussion.
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Feel kinda force for this drama. It really seem out of character. Sure, he'll break down at some point as thing stand, but definitely not from this stupid charade.
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That desperation at the end by Subaru is actually heart wrenching. He's so afraid of losing her, that he does the biggest no-no he can think to do and tries to use debts to make sure she sticks around, totally ruining everything he might have had remaining in one go.

He royally screwed up this time. I have no doubts he'll actually consider killing himself to reset it, but I assume that would be too easy especially not knowing when he might respawn, so that won't actually happen.

I feel like, even though he can't outright tell her that he comes from another world or that he can die repeatedly, she should be able to take a hint from him before he gets interrupted. The Japanese he speaks before getting interrupted does contain a few key words that, when this repeatedly happens, she should be realizing something extraordinary is happening. Lets not forget each time he does this, he gets that extra burst of malevolent 'aura' while clutching his chest... I feel like Emilia should be able to realize something is up by now when it comes to explaining himself. Yet she never does...
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I don't think I have ever seen a more pathetic main character.
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If you haven't noticed by my signature I am already ahead of the game and don't really care about what spoilers you have seen. The whole concept of his power is to return smarter and stronger every time he dies in order to escape whatever trials he's facing. Its actually really dumb that you said he shouldn't make mistakes just so he has to die to rewind them because the whole point of being able to "return by death" is to fix fucked up situations. As for the retarded mistakes he didn't really make any so far.

-> broke his promise with Emilia in order to be able to "protect her"
-> attempted to help Priscilla not knowing she was a priestess candidate because that's how he is
-> interrupted the priestess meeting because he feels like he needs to know whats going on in order to keep Emilia out of harms way.
-> Goes off on the council after watching them disrespect his EMF.
-> SAYS that he is her Knight in order to make Emilia seem not out of place as all the other candidates had Knights.
-> Badmouthed Knighthood and downplayed it because he didn't understand the gravity of it as an outsider from a different world.
-> Fought knowing he would lose because he's stubborn
-> Yelled at Emilia for questioning his loyalty to her after all he has done for her.

Nothing here seems retarded. All of this is the same Subaru we have seen for the whole series. Now we just see the ramifications of his actions.


And dying hurts......just because he can return by death doesn't mean he should abuse it. He was damn scared in the earlier arc after the black hand incident. Now he just goes around like a retard making messes even bigger. He should have at least stopped being a total idiot.

This whole argument can be just meaningless if everyone agrees that Subaru is a shitty MC who needs to die countless times to get a small development. But then what was the point of the last arc? Rem pandering only? Since according to several of you he didn't learn much at all other than being more retarded because of PSTD and waifu worship.

> He broke his promise to protect Emilia from what? Did he know anything was going to happen this time? No he did not. He did not trust his idol and just rushed in like a rabid fanboy, lost her trust and demanded that she owes him because he protected her (half of it was because of himself). Sorry Emilia is not his possession. All this would made some sense if he died at least once because something happened.

> He seriously underestimated the Knights when he himself isn't that much strong and he saw how strong Reinhard was earlier. So his neet life only consisted of waifu worship then. Didn't seem that way since he had some knowledge about how game worlds are like when he was first transported other than having some OP ability. He fought overestimating himself when he didn't do much training at all.

> He made Emilia's situation worse, turned out to be a complete loser and a joke, didn't trust her, broke his promise to her and he doesn't have any evidence to prove anything he said. All his actions are hollow and didn't prove anything. So of course Emilia would question him. If he expected to be rewarded because he did something on his own then that's just a pathetic outburst.

Half of it seems retarded tbh. Sorry just because you have good intention it doesn't mean you can cross the line like a headless chicken especially when your action turns everything into a mess.

Also unfortunately i haven't read the WN/LN yet but looking at the spoilers for the next checkpoint, all of this just looks unnecessary drama to me. A very common troupes used by making the MC into a bigger idiot than he usually is.


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Now against Julius. He's not some unintelligent beast. He's also not a villain. Subaru then gets no support he had before. And is placed against an unbeatable opponent.

Challenges from before weren't at this one's level. But Subaru was too naive to recognize that. And he fell victim to his own pride; by its undesired effect.


Subaru placed HIMSELF in that unnecessary trouble and messed up. Previously he at least understood that thing were beyond his level but he HAD to do it. This time he just turned into a overconfident mess. He already knew how strong Reinhard is, why should other knights be weak? His naivety actually turned worse this time.
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iRels said:

Now against Julius. He's not some unintelligent beast. He's also not a villain. Subaru then gets no support he had before. And is placed against an unbeatable opponent.

Challenges from before weren't at this one's level. But Subaru was too naive to recognize that. And he fell victim to his own pride; by its undesired effect.


Subaru placed HIMSELF in that unnecessary trouble and messed up. Previously he at least understood that thing were beyond his level but he HAD to do it. This time he just turned into a overconfident mess. He already knew how strong Reinhard is, why should other knights be weak? His naivety actually turned worse this time.


Yeah, he was placed against Julius. It was necessary, yeah. Here he also had to do it. He was always shown to be overconfident. Doesn't matter how strong he was, because at first, he only had to argue. It's after he lost, that he tried to regain through fighting.
Jun 28, 2016 12:54 AM
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Man if more of him comes out on the anime it would be a 10 for me *-* but sadly Subaru's the mc ughhh what was the author thinking when he decided to make his character -.-

Anways these two are going to make the anime worth watching it was beginning to Bore the hell out of me.


Forget Emilia x Subaru let's make Reinhard and Felt the protagonist I'm pretty sure they'll have better chemistry !!
Jun 28, 2016 12:56 AM

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I dunno but Emilia becomes super annoying and he's more annoying .. it was all good before this episode
Seunghoon my sunflower
Jun 28, 2016 1:54 AM
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AivanK said:
Bl4ckR4bbi7 said:
Rem will be there for him, but things will be fucked up more, I think the more he was attached to the person the more he would be fucked up, what a pitiful curse to him ;-; *sobs*


Will see, but it's Subaru, he will find a way ;)
but I'm getting nervous lol xD l he'll find a way, but I've seen an official illustration and spoiler, he looks like a fucked up psycho killer (-_- )
Jun 28, 2016 2:17 AM

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Deathless said:
I didn't get one thing. Reinhard told that he found Felt about one month but wasn't it just over a week ago? Starting from the moment when he found her (end of 1st arc), Subaru moved with Emilia to her country-house where events happened within a week. The way current arc started, it looks like that events of second arc happened just a few days ago so in total it should be 1-2 weeks, not the whole month.


dude it's a month please count again :D


The show did absolutely nothing to show that the month has passed. If anything Ep12 made it seems like the messenger from capital arrived right the next day.

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- sadistic ojousama prone to outbursts; Make (whatever the fucking country is called) great again.
- unrepentant capitalist; Hillary for (Again, whatever this place is called).
-"I want equality to everyone!" Feel the Bern.


Ain't Felt more of a Trump considering she is in this just for shits and giggles and to piss off the royals?

Either way its clear that the author is using other candidates as nothing more than props to showcase just how great caring and nice Emilia is.

Hell even Subaru's ooc behavior can be treated as writing convenience to showcase how great of a person Emilia is.

its just absolute strange that in show where we have flawed and interesting characters like Rem, the supposed lead heroine is pretty much kept as this messianic embodiment of purity and niceness. Whyyy. they could have added more flavor to her rant against him but even that was "aww I can't see you get hurt for me" kind of deal till Subaru MAJORLY fucked up.
Jun 28, 2016 2:19 AM

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The first arc of this anime was SO good and made the anime very interesting...

After that, it's been pretty much downhill...

The Twins arc wasn't interesting IMO and honestly, I didn't even understand the whole point of the outcome...

Yeah, Rem is super cute and whatever, but that's pretty much it.

This episode was by far the worst....very little made sense, the characters' motivations feels forced/contrived and the MC is driving me nuts.

*SIGH*

I'm once again getting that feeling I get in so many other anime that start promising but slowly get dull/uninteresting...
Jun 28, 2016 2:25 AM

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BTW....reading some of the comments once again proves that MALers believe Drama = Good....even when it's obviously forced and in reality nonsensical MELOdrama...

I REALLY hope this gets better, because I haven't felt excited for this anime since the ending of the first arc....everything afterwards has been disappointing.

And goddamn....the MC was so cringeworthy....I mean, he's had plenty of cringeworthy moments so far in the series, but this was too much, it was actually hard for me to watch that final scene.

UGH!

Dude, just kill yourself and start over.
Jun 28, 2016 2:40 AM

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...Why are you double posting the what is basically the same thing?
Jun 28, 2016 2:48 AM

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Wtf!?At Least I've never seen this anime for his avarage (typical retarded shounen plot's arm) MC,but for the story and the lore.

Nevertheless it was a good episode I think.

At this point the best characters are Julius,Al and Priscilla.
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This anime continues to surprise me. I can't believe how horribly cringey that last scene with Emilia and Subaru was.

Anime-only watcher, I noticed Roswald smiled when Subaru stepped up. He wanted that fiasco? Why? I have no idea.

I hope Subaru gets a clue next episode but I am guessing things will get worse before they get better.
Jun 28, 2016 6:01 AM

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Dude, just kill yourself and start over.

His checkpoint hasn't moved yet.
Jun 28, 2016 7:38 AM
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Subaru went full retard. He has neither knowledge of the world nor the power to protect anyone. He went through so many things with basically some shouting, recklessness and some luck. If he's not going to grow some intelligence or have some badass power-ups, he's simply useless.
Jun 28, 2016 8:07 AM

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An intense episode indeed! that conversation between Subaru and Emilia was very deep! I have to say that this story is taking a nice turn, good thing it's still going on during the summer!

So I guess Subaru will start training to become a knight, his mentor will be either Reinheart or that scary butler, I really want him to get back at that purple-haired knight!
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Does anyone else feel Subaru should just kill himself to reset back to a point and mend his mistakes...I mean, he couldn't have made it any worse for himself.

That would ruin the whole point of the episode, that Subaru was being retarded. Resetting just to make everything happy again is a lot less satisfying then Subaru not acting retarded and fixing everything.
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An intense episode indeed! that conversation between Subaru and Emilia was very deep! I have to say that this story is taking a nice turn, good thing it's still going on during the summer!

So I guess Subaru will start training to become a knight, his mentor will be either Reinheart or that scary butler, I really want him to get back at that purple-haired knight!

>get back at Julius
There is no reason to get back at Julius, because Julius was 100% in the right.
every single one of my forum posts is dumb and invalid except for 1, I don't claim them it was a different person it was all fake
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RainyRai said:

Elgargini said:
An intense episode indeed! that conversation between Subaru and Emilia was very deep! I have to say that this story is taking a nice turn, good thing it's still going on during the summer!

So I guess Subaru will start training to become a knight, his mentor will be either Reinheart or that scary butler, I really want him to get back at that purple-haired knight!

>get back at Julius
There is no reason to get back at Julius, because Julius was 100% in the right.

I know, but he still piss me off, guess I should simply say "beat him up"! xD
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QWERTYFish25 said:
- sadistic ojousama prone to outbursts; Make (whatever the fucking country is called) great again.
- unrepentant capitalist; Hillary for (Again, whatever this place is called).
-"I want equality to everyone!" Feel the Bern.


Ain't Felt more of a Trump considering she is in this just for shits and giggles and to piss off the royals?


I was aiming to draw similarities between your description of Priscilla and Trump's outbursts.
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JustALEX said:
Dude, just kill yourself and start over.

His checkpoint hasn't moved yet.
yea I agreed, and besides he's not aware of where will gonna be his savepoint is, if he kill himself.
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