| Hey everyone =) I want to ask you all why so many people dislike the show. If you go to the review section, there are many 5/10 or lower reviews Could someone explain me in few sentences why people dislike the show? (please not in a book form like all the reviews) Is it because Evangelion is too deep for them? Or is it because they don't understand the psychology and the philosophy? Actually, I love Evangelion. I love it because of the Action, of the psychology and of the philosophy. The characters are fantastic and the story itself is a masterpiece. I rewatched the series and movies quite many times, and the last two episode of the anime (episode 25 and 26) like 14 times and it doesn't get bored. When I watch Evangelion I often see myself in these characters or other peoples. I totally can relate with Shinji, Asuka, Rei, Misato and everyone |
| Gave it a 4/10 myself. Didn't hate it, but it didn't appeal to me overly much. - First half of it was just a regular monster-of-the-week deal. Nothing really special there. I didn't like nor dislike it. - Asuka. I absolutely despise her. I actually put NGE on hold for several months because I became completely sick of every second she spent on screen. Berating and abusing Shinji at every single opportunity for absolutely no reason whatsoever just because "QQ I'm stressed out" made for a fuckin' awful character. By taking her tsundere-ism to such ridiculously extreme lengths I feel it had the opposite effect of portraying the stress she was under. Rather than being a nice person with a sad backstory and the weight of the world on her shoulders, Asuka was just a cunt. - Episode 20 nearly gave me a seizure. - The last two episodes. Well, more specifically, the way the very last episode ended. I had nothing against the way the last two episodes were (although they could have done it in one episode, IMO ) but having those episodes followed by "congratulations" and lots of clapping made me feel like I'd been trolled. It's like there was meant to be a last episode but they forgot about it and just left things up in the air. (I'm aware there are movies which end the story, but I wasn't into Eva enough to want to bother watching them). - The really heavy-handed themes. I know it's been said a lot of the symbolism was used just because they thought it was cool, but it just made me laugh when I saw explosions taking on the forms of crosses. It was ridiculously forced and in-your-face. - A lot of it flew over my head. I was somewhat confused at what was actually happening in the last 6-8 episodes, with all the different organisations, people, and interested parties. I could just be an idiot So that impeded my potential enjoyment too. So as far as I'm concerned, I didn't think it was bad. I just didn't really see any particular reason to like it either. I could tell that it was very different to your regular highschool mecha anime, but being different doesn't automatically make it good. I had it as a 5/10 (which for me denotes average; I didn't feel strongly either way) but dropped it to a 4 after the last two episodes. That clapping ending was just lol. |
 It's an entirely different kind of flying, altogether! It's an entirely different kind of flying. |
| the plot was boring tsundere + pussy mc |
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ItsMaz said: stuff Thanks for the answer! It helped me a lot! The clapping scene at the end was really wtf and lol xD |
| I personally loved the show and its obviously my favorite but I can totally see why people can dislike it. It is slow paced(even though the cinematography compensate on the pacing) The animation is a bit dated(even though its style is still iconic) The budget problems(even though they still made a great job with it) The stupid "Christianity symbolism" that haters brag on(even though it doesnt affect the show) The characters that the show didnt expect you to like The "WTF" ending (that can bring the conventional mind set to confusion) The complex(yet subtle) story The deep overall meaning(that some people just dont get) All of those reasons are what many dislike in the show and I can totally understand if you give it a 5/10 or whatever... Its just wasnt your cup of tea. Its not like the show is underrated and doesnt has it own recognition in the community so I really dont care. |
| I didn't rated it too low cause I kinda liked the plot. I hated the animation even though both are old, dbz have much better animation then Evangelion. Beside that MC was a bitch/wimp/selfish kid, I literally wanted to drop the show on first episode but carried on. |
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| Three main reasons people hate it are: 1. Shinji "for being a wimp" 2. Asuka "for being a bitch" 3. Pretentiousness. I don't hate EVA; I think it's become an essential and irreplaceable classic part of Japan's culture. I mean, it is huge. If you go to Tokyo, you will see what I mean. lol |
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On_the_Lam said: I personally believe that someone who has never felt depressed at least once during their lifetime won't be able to understand/enjoy Evangelion. You need to have "low" moments in your life in order to appreciate the "high" moments! |
| It's because they love loli and moe. |
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| Bcuz Hideaki doesn’t want to work on 3.0+1.0. |
| because is 2deep4they |
ERrorMACro18May 6, 2016 11:44 AM
| I want to talk with people who likes good animes, the 2deep4u animes, spanish too , 4ever evangelion and monogatari |
A picture speaks a thousand words. That said, I don't *hate* evangelion, in fact I thought EoE was a good movie, it's just that it is more of a monster of the week show that turns into a brief exploration of the depression Hideaki Anno was feeling at the time of directing it. Also, the ending of the tv series was a mess. I get what happened in it, it's just that it was presented in the most questionable and silly way possible. I would prefer if he didn't get depression and kept directing stuff like gunbuster. |
| NGE was the type of the series that I immediately regretted watching after finishing. I didn't even hate it. Didn't feel any sort of investment towards and just found it dull. I kinda don't get why it's even controversial in the first place. |
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ERrorMACro18 said: Yes, it is so deep that Cameron want's to explore it.because is 2deepthey |
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ExTamplier said: who is cameron "0_0ERrorMACro18 said: Yes, it is so deep that Cameron want's to explore it.because is 2deepthey |
| I want to talk with people who likes good animes, the 2deep4u animes, spanish too , 4ever evangelion and monogatari |
ExTamplier said: ERrorMACro18 said: Yes, it is so deep that Cameron want's to explore it.because is 2deepthey This is what I see in my head every time someone says that evangelion is "deep" or "too deep for you". |
ERrorMACro18 said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepsea_ChallengerExTamplier said: who is cameron "0_0Yes, it is so deep that Cameron want's to explore it. Lobinde said: If I would show you what I see everytime I see a comment "What I see om my head when someone says it is 2deep4u" I would get banned.ExTamplier said: Yes, it is so deep that Cameron want's to explore it. This is what I see in my head every time someone says that evangelion is "deep" or "too deep for you". |
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| excuse my ignorance senpai |
| I want to talk with people who likes good animes, the 2deep4u animes, spanish too , 4ever evangelion and monogatari |
| well people are free to like/hate whatever they want. liking a series is all about timing. watch the right thing at the right time and the impact is greater. (pun intended) also, I'm just gonna leave it here because it's an interesting read about the historical background: |
Moniisek said: Some of that is half truths with some shitposting in the mix.well people are free to like/hate whatever they want. liking a series is all about timing. watch the right thing at the right time and the impact is greater. (pun intended) also, I'm just gonna leave it here because it's an interesting read about the historical background: |
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Cabron said: Moniisek said: Some of that is half truths with some shitposting in the mix.well people are free to like/hate whatever they want. liking a series is all about timing. watch the right thing at the right time and the impact is greater. (pun intended) also, I'm just gonna leave it here because it's an interesting read about the historical background: well, yeah, it's 4chan. I thought it wasn't that bad. left it here for people who might be very bored on the internet. |
| Because slightly slow-ish pacing and "lol look at dat beta pussy MC so pathetic lolol". Also don't forget dated art and animation. You'd think that they'd hate it for legit reasons but nope. However some of the people in the above posts do dislike it for actual valid reasons tho. And I kinda feel them on that.. |
Moniisek said: Pretty good.well, yeah, it's 4chan. I thought it wasn't that bad. left it here for people who might be very bored on the internet. Just pointing that out, since some folks might actually believe the whole thing. |
Please learn about cel animation and its technical process. Learn how special effects and backlighting were done without computers. |
Lobinde said: i think in that picture ever xDExTamplier said: Yes, it is so deep that Cameron want's to explore it. This is what I see in my head every time someone says that evangelion is "deep" or "too deep for you". |
| I want to talk with people who likes good animes, the 2deep4u animes, spanish too , 4ever evangelion and monogatari |
| Because it's not battle-shounen. |
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| i bet its because Shinji the main character is pathetic and it gets annoying for viewers to connect with him emotionally, a lot of people even in real life hate emotionally weak people but he did not bother me and i still enjoyed the show a lot, its one of my childhood anime |
| I like it, especially the last two episodes. if I have to say what I dislike in this show, its: -Monster of the week method are somewhat boring -1 minute scene on the some later episodes -Acyka |
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GesuYarou said: Because slightly slow-ish pacing and "lol look at dat beta pussy MC so pathetic lolol". Also don't forget dated art and animation. You'd think that they'd hate it for legit reasons but nope. However some of the people in the above posts do dislike it for actual valid reasons tho. And I kinda feel them on that.. Those are legit reasons though .They say nothing about the overall quality of the work but they're legit nonetheless .If a person doesn't like a "beta/whiny MC" even if he has a lot of depth to him then ,that's that .They might not have valid criticisms but they have to right to dislike it nonetheless . On_the_Lam said: I personally believe that someone who has never felt depressed at least once during their lifetime won't be able to understand/enjoy Evangelion. How depressed are we talking about here ? |
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| Because you mustn't run away, sadly that's what a lot of folks are doing. |
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TheDeadApostle said: GesuYarou said: Because slightly slow-ish pacing and "lol look at dat beta pussy MC so pathetic lolol". Also don't forget dated art and animation. You'd think that they'd hate it for legit reasons but nope. However some of the people in the above posts do dislike it for actual valid reasons tho. And I kinda feel them on that.. Those are legit reasons though .They say nothing about the overall quality of the work but they're legit nonetheless .If a person doesn't like a "beta/whiny MC" even if he has a lot of depth to him then ,that's that .They might not have valid criticisms but they have to right to dislike it nonetheless . Of course they have the right to dislike it... But haven't you heard that "not being able to justify = invalid opinion" going around these day? Going by that complaining about something as superficial as Shinji being "beta" isn't enough to get me to take their opinion seriously.. |
GesuYarou said: TheDeadApostle said: Those are legit reasons though .They say nothing about the overall quality of the work but they're legit nonetheless .If a person doesn't like a "beta/whiny MC" even if he has a lot of depth to him then ,that's that .They might not have valid criticisms but they have to right to dislike it nonetheless . Of course they have the right to dislike it... But haven't you heard that "not being able to justify = invalid opinion" going around these day? Going by that complaining about something as superficial as Shinji being "beta" isn't enough to get me to take their opinion seriously.. I dunno man.......it might be worthless in a discussion but I don't see how it's inherently worthless. It's not like I don't see where they're coming from. It's true that Shinji has perfectly sensible reasons for being the way that he is but that doesn't mean it can always connect with people. If it fails in that aspect in regards to a certain group then their opinions still stand as reasons for why they dislike it. There might be more to his character but if they don't care then that's completely alright. A problem comes when they decide to judge the series' quality based on their preferences and instead f what it tried to accomplish. Btw have you seen EoE ? On_the_Lam said: Existential crisis, losing the will to live because they've unlocked the secret of life, which is purposelessness. That's pretty extreme. I wouldn't go that far. |
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TheDeadApostle said: GesuYarou said: Of course they have the right to dislike it... But haven't you heard that "not being able to justify = invalid opinion" going around these day? Going by that complaining about something as superficial as Shinji being "beta" isn't enough to get me to take their opinion seriously.. I dunno man.......it might be worthless in a discussion but I don't see how it's inherently worthless. It's not like I don't see where they're coming from. It's true that Shinji has perfectly sensible reasons for being the way that he is but that doesn't mean it can always connect with people. If it fails in that aspect in regards to a certain group then their opinions still stand as reasons for why they dislike it. There might be more to his character but if they don't care then that's completely alright. A problem comes when they decide to judge the series' quality based on their preferences and instead f what it tried to accomplish. Btw have you seen EoE ? I'm pretty sure I've said this before but in case I haven't; The viewer is well within their rights to dislike someones character and it's even okay to admit that that particular character ruined the fun for them. But the least they can do is acknowledge the fact that that was the way he was written and it's just that it didn't appeal to them. It's okay to bail out of an argument using 'it just didn't appeal to me'. At least in my book it is. Naw man, Still on s1 episode 23. Probably gonna finish it off tomorrow after I come home.. |
GesuYarou said: TheDeadApostle said: I dunno man.......it might be worthless in a discussion but I don't see how it's inherently worthless. It's not like I don't see where they're coming from. It's true that Shinji has perfectly sensible reasons for being the way that he is but that doesn't mean it can always connect with people. If it fails in that aspect in regards to a certain group then their opinions still stand as reasons for why they dislike it. There might be more to his character but if they don't care then that's completely alright. A problem comes when they decide to judge the series' quality based on their preferences and instead f what it tried to accomplish. Btw have you seen EoE ? I'm pretty sure I've said this before but in case I haven't; The viewer is well within their rights to dislike someones character and it's even okay to admit that that particular character ruined the fun for them. But the least they can do is acknowledge the fact that that was the way he was written and it's just that it didn't appeal to them. It's okay to bail out of an argument using 'it just didn't appeal to me'. At least in my book it is. Naw man, Still on s1 episode 23. Probably gonna finish it off tomorrow after I come home.. I get your point .I just didn't see how the reasons you gave earlier weren't valid in regards to how someone feels about the series . Are you gonna watch the movies ? |
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TheDeadApostle said: GesuYarou said: I'm pretty sure I've said this before but in case I haven't; The viewer is well within their rights to dislike someones character and it's even okay to admit that that particular character ruined the fun for them. But the least they can do is acknowledge the fact that that was the way he was written and it's just that it didn't appeal to them. It's okay to bail out of an argument using 'it just didn't appeal to me'. At least in my book it is. Naw man, Still on s1 episode 23. Probably gonna finish it off tomorrow after I come home.. I get your point .I just didn't see how the reasons you gave earlier weren't valid in regards to how someone feels about the series . Are you gonna watch the movies ? Eventually, yeah. I'm gonna watch all of them. Someone told me that asuka I'll be looking forward to that.. |
On_the_Lam said: Yes, but other people would simply dismiss Evangelion as "pretentious" and spread the word instead of trying to understand it. And trust me, there's a lot to understand. Just out of curiosity, why don't you rate every anime you've completed? It's a pain to do that .My list is reasonable larger than it appears .Especially the manga one . |
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| I literally just finished it and while its definitely not terrible I failed to see the significance with the anime. Nothing stood out to me as amazing by any stretch. |
| Your next line is "I was just pretending to be retarded". |
| A big reason people hate it doesn't even have to do with the anime it's the 2deep4u or "you just didn't get it" response the fanboys give when you say you didn't like it. Even the creator said NGE is overrated lol |
| Your next line is "I was just pretending to be retarded". |
-Maz said: Couldn't have said it any better all i'd add is that literally every character was fucked up and not in a good way.Gave it a 4/10 myself. Didn't hate it, but it didn't appeal to me overly much. - First half of it was just a regular monster-of-the-week deal. Nothing really special there. I didn't like nor dislike it. - Asuka. I absolutely despise her. I actually put NGE on hold for several months because I became completely sick of every second she spent on screen. Berating and abusing Shinji at every single opportunity for absolutely no reason whatsoever just because "QQ I'm stressed out" made for a fuckin' awful character. By taking her tsundere-ism to such ridiculously extreme lengths I feel it had the opposite effect of portraying the stress she was under. Rather than being a nice person with a sad backstory and the weight of the world on her shoulders, Asuka was just a cunt. - Episode 20 nearly gave me a seizure. - The last two episodes. Well, more specifically, the way the very last episode ended. I had nothing against the way the last two episodes were (although they could have done it in one episode, IMO ) but having those episodes followed by "congratulations" and lots of clapping made me feel like I'd been trolled. It's like there was meant to be a last episode but they forgot about it and just left things up in the air. (I'm aware there are movies which end the story, but I wasn't into Eva enough to want to bother watching them). - The really heavy-handed themes. I know it's been said a lot of the symbolism was used just because they thought it was cool, but it just made me laugh when I saw explosions taking on the forms of crosses. It was ridiculously forced and in-your-face. - A lot of it flew over my head. I was somewhat confused at what was actually happening in the last 6-8 episodes, with all the different organisations, people, and interested parties. I could just be an idiot So that impeded my potential enjoyment too. So as far as I'm concerned, I didn't think it was bad. I just didn't really see any particular reason to like it either. I could tell that it was very different to your regular highschool mecha anime, but being different doesn't automatically make it good. I had it as a 5/10 (which for me denotes average; I didn't feel strongly either way) but dropped it to a 4 after the last two episodes. That clapping ending was just lol. |
| Your next line is "I was just pretending to be retarded". |
NakuraZero said: Couldn't have said it any better all i'd add is that literally every character was fucked up and not in a good way. That's the point. |
KamilleMkII said: Just because that's the point doesn't mean I have to like/enjoy it.NakuraZero said: Couldn't have said it any better all i'd add is that literally every character was fucked up and not in a good way. That's the point. |
| Your next line is "I was just pretending to be retarded". |
NakuraZero said: Just because that's the point doesn't mean I have to like/enjoy it. I'm not saying you have to enjoy it, I'm just saying the point of the show was to be like that. |
KamilleMkII said: Probably because the creator was really depressed at the time.NakuraZero said: Just because that's the point doesn't mean I have to like/enjoy it. I'm not saying you have to enjoy it, I'm just saying the point of the show was to be like that. |
| Your next line is "I was just pretending to be retarded". |
| Because it's 2 deep for them, 2 experimental, 2 ambitious |
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| Because it's a ridiculous show about unlikable over-angst teenagers piloting giant robot, trying to be deep while it's just pretentious throwing to the mix a shallow religious symbolism. Seriously how am I supposed to relate to shinji while he is annoying as hell don't get me wrong he was relatable at the beginning but he grow more annoying as the show progress to the point I dropped it Oh and there's something more annoying than shinji which is the fanbase of the series they speak to you like they are the most intellectual people on earth and make you feel like you are an illiterate heathen. |
bigmustache93Jun 15, 2016 10:53 AM
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| Because they gave us a philosophy shit show instead of an actual ending. What happened to Askua? What about Lilith? What the fuck is the black moon? the last two episodes are completely fabricated and useles. |
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