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| Re:Zero sales up on last week, it seems, with vol 3 making it onto the rankings for the first time since the week after its release, and with about triple the sales figure. There's quite a big drop off there between the first two volumes, though. Rokujouma's sales seem to be up a fair bit on the last few volumes... |
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ColdBreeze said: SAO again. Btw what are good sells and what are bad sells? Is 5k average or good/bad? 5k is bad. 6k+ is almost good. 10k~20k good. 20k~40k sucess. 50k+ great sucess.. more than that is the hyper mega(i don't know words for it) sucess 10k is the margin for a anime adaption This is for accumulated sales, not for a one week thing. |
ColdBreeze said: Thanks! Then it sold quite good. (Accumulated at least) There is a LOT of novels that don't even make the ranking, so only to be here is a pretty good thing. |
| Sao keep doing good 😍 Also happy for re zero |
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| Re:Zero still strong and in the rankings. And even volume 3 made it in there. If it keeps that up for the majority of its airing time this could result in a great amount of sales. Somehow I can't shrug off the feeling that in Re:Zero's case people rather read along than ahead. Anyway nice to see it's already doing that well even though we've had the weakest part of the story so far. |
ColdBreeze said: SAO again. Btw what are good sells and what are bad sells? Is 5k average or good/bad? Taking everything into account, 5k is comfortably above average. There were 100 releases in the week covered in this thread, although 11 of them were MF Bunko J or MF Books which got sales last week so really it's only 89. Of these, 9 got >5k sales. Although several of the start of the month labels shifted forwards to the week covered here due to this week being Golden Week - which would have skewed things as the first week of the month tends to be skewed towards minor labels that don't sell very well. On average I'd guess around 20-25% of titles hit the 5k mark within a week of release but there's no way of working it out due to thresholds and release dates rarely being at the very start of the week (indeed a lot of labels will never release anything on a Monday at all). Perhaps 15% or so will see 5k sales on the rankings threads. On the other hand, if you're talking about older sales, anything getting >5k sales in its second week (unless it came out right at the end of the week and thus gets more sales in week 2 than week 1) or beyond is definitely doing well. |
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| The Owari no Seraph LN is doing far better than I first suspected :o |
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| *3. 18,558 *18,558 Tensei shitara Slime datta Ken Vol.7 Pretty good, the manga version volume 2 sold 70k though also hachinan doing well and rokujouma doing better than the last few volumes. that drop off from the first volume to the second volume of Re zero(total sales i mean) is pretty crazy |
harkanMay 4, 2016 3:54 PM
ColdBreeze said: lezerman said: Thanks! Then it sold quite good. (Accumulated at least)[5k is bad. 6k+ is almost good. 10k~20k good. 20k~40k sucess. 50k+ great sucess.. more than that is the hyper mega(i don't know words for it) sucess 10k is the margin for a anime adaption This is for accumulated sales, not for a one week thing. I guess you mean Re:Zero's numbers. So are we talking about accumulated sales for a single volume or all the volumes combined? If we talk about a single volume then the first volume already sold ~25k in 4 weeks of the anime's airing time. If we talk about all the volumes combined then it should be 100k+ in 4 weeks of the anime's airing time. |
FappaMay 4, 2016 3:00 PM
Fappa said: Re:Zero still strong and in the rankings. And even volume 3 made it in there. If it keeps that up for the majority of its airing time this could result in a great amount of sales. Somehow I can't shrug off the feeling that in Re:Zero's case people rather read along than ahead. Anyway nice to see it's already doing that well even though we've had the weakest part of the story so far. Yea I'm not seeing people reading ahead in Re:Zero's case, it's definitely a "let's watch the anime then read to pick up whatever was left out" type of show, especially with the mystery factor. And it seems to be doing better than most adaptations from this season regardless of being manga or ln. |
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bobzanny said: Yea I'm not seeing people reading ahead in Re:Zero's case, it's definitely a "let's watch the anime then read to pick up whatever was left out" type of show, especially with the mystery factor. And it seems to be doing better than most adaptations from this season regardless of being manga or ln. Exactly my thoughts. I'm no expert in numbers and I don't know what can be considered good or bad but I find 100k+ total sales in 4/26 weeks ( and LN ) is quite a lot. The web novel page also had 23 million views in April which is 10 times more than usual. Talk about a boost. |
| I think Re:Zero actually pushes to "dark" thing a little too far and that's why we aren't seeing such a huge sales boost like KonoSuba of last season. I mean, I'm all for like dark fantasy like Legend of Legendary Heroes, but Re:Zero is just a little too much, that's just me though, I wouldn't be surprised if others felt the same though. |
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Fappa said: bobzanny said: Yea I'm not seeing people reading ahead in Re:Zero's case, it's definitely a "let's watch the anime then read to pick up whatever was left out" type of show, especially with the mystery factor. And it seems to be doing better than most adaptations from this season regardless of being manga or ln. Exactly my thoughts. I'm no expert in numbers and I don't know what can be considered good or bad but I find 100k+ total sales in 4/26 weeks ( and LN ) is quite a lot. The web novel page also had 23 million views in April which is 10 times more than usual. Talk about a boost. Well KonoSuba's Vol.1 rose around 25k during the first month and Re:Zero rose about 19k which considering the change in tone between the tone, Re:Zero can be considered a success imo. Plus it's going to have legs with the two cours, so hopefully the fanbase grows and the LN IIRC was the 2nd most talked about on twitter behind Kabaneri. |
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bobzanny said: Well KonoSuba's Vol.1 rose around 25k during the first month and Re:Zero rose about 19k which considering the change in tone between the tone, Re:Zero can be considered a success imo. Plus it's going to have legs with the two cours, so hopefully the fanbase grows and the LN IIRC was the 2nd most talked about on twitter behind Kabaneri. I may be wrong but didn't Re:Zero's first volume also increase by close to 25k in its first month with these sales? I counted 6,7k + 6,5k + 5,3k + 5,6k so they're pretty much even. Or do we not count last week because it includes the first of May? Oh really? Good to know. Thanks! Ahoy_NATO said: I think Re:Zero actually pushes to "dark" thing a little too far and that's why we aren't seeing such a huge sales boost like KonoSuba of last season. I mean, I'm all for like dark fantasy like Legend of Legendary Heroes, but Re:Zero is just a little too much, that's just me though, I wouldn't be surprised if others felt the same though. Well that's a completely subjective view on it but absolutely fine to have :)! I think it's more about being a comedy and a serious/dark story. Former has it far easier to becomes big very fast ( which doesn't make it worse, by no means ). It was short and crisp. Re:Zero on the other side is completely different beast. Both have their charm with their style, it's just that one has a short but really big success and the other one a tamer but longer success ( this one is a mere speculation though ). In the end I believe it will even out. Anyway I don't even want a Re:Zero - KonoSuba rivalry to start since nothing but bad blood will come as a result :). What is certain though, is that for a relatively unknown light novel series such as Re:Zero being where it is now ( and staying there fore weeks already ), is already quite a success in its own right. |
FappaMay 4, 2016 4:08 PM
Fappa said: bobzanny said: Well KonoSuba's Vol.1 rose around 25k during the first month and Re:Zero rose about 19k which considering the change in tone between the tone, Re:Zero can be considered a success imo. Plus it's going to have legs with the two cours, so hopefully the fanbase grows and the LN IIRC was the 2nd most talked about on twitter behind Kabaneri. I may be wrong but didn't Re:Zero's first volume also increase by close to 25k in its first month with these sales? I counted 6,7k + 6,5k + 5,3k + 5,6k so they're pretty much even. Or do we not count last week because it includes the first of May? Oh really? Good to know. Thanks! Ahoy_NATO said: I think Re:Zero actually pushes to "dark" thing a little too far and that's why we aren't seeing such a huge sales boost like KonoSuba of last season. I mean, I'm all for like dark fantasy like Legend of Legendary Heroes, but Re:Zero is just a little too much, that's just me though, I wouldn't be surprised if others felt the same though. Well that's a completely subjective view on it but absolutely fine to have :)! I think it's more about being a comedy and a serious/dark story. Former has it far easier to becomes big very fast ( which doesn't make it worse, by no means ). It was short and crisp. Re:Zero on the other side is completely different beast. Both have their charm with their style, it's just that one has a short but really big success and the other one a tamer but longer success ( this one is a mere speculation though ). In the end I believe it will even out. Anyway I don't even want a Re:Zero - KonoSuba rivalry to start since nothing but bad blood will come as a result :). What is certain though, is that for a relatively unknown light novel series such as Re:Zero being where it is now ( and staying there fore weeks already ), is already quite a success in its own right. I think I just counted the first 3 weeks after the initial episode but I could be wrong....math was never my strong suite. Edit:I number crunched again and KonoSuba sold about 6k more, ~30k to ~ 24k, during the first month's sales. Based on pre anime sales, KonoSuba was more unknown that Re:Zero with less sales so that does leave more room for growth along with more appealing in terms of comedy. But regardless it is the best received adaptation from this season which is saying something. And I only brought up KonoSuba because it utilized the same trope, was a LN, and was basically considered the best/out of nowhere show, exactly like Re:Zero. I know Vol.1 release in English is out in July so I can't wait to get that to contribute to the sales. |
bobzannyMay 4, 2016 4:26 PM
| Big Order (TV):great anime or greatest anime? |
| BTW. Judging by the pace, they plan to adapt all 8 current volumes of Re:Zero. I just hope, the studio won't go AgK way this time (I like, how they concluded the series that time but I don't want anime-original ending here). |
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| Considering Re:Zero's content, it's doing pretty damn good. |
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Nachtwandler_21 said: The anime original ending for AgK... just smh. Literally anything else would've been better.BTW. Judging by the pace, they plan to adapt all 8 current volumes of Re:Zero. I just hope, the studio won't go AgK way this time (I like, how they concluded the series that time but I don't want anime-original ending here). |
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| I wonder if Overlord will break 200K with vol 10, it's been on fire int the pre orders. Looks like they got the big Re: zero boost they wanted. |
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| @bobzanny Oh okay so you didn't include last week's sales ( this thread ). With them it is at 25k which would make them even, wow. I didn't really check the manga sales for the other shows but when I see that I think this could actually be the case! Yeah I get where you're coming from. It can be considered the last big hit of a light novel adaptation so it's a given that this will be compared with it :) Even though I have read it in Japanese, I'll make sure to buy it once it comes out and reread everything. Since the novel is filled with mythological references and complex wording I'm sure I missed quite a lot :) @Nachtwandler_21 Yeah it really looks like they will adapt the entirety of arc 3 which would make it 8-9 volumes. Oh it's very unlikely that they will do that. First of all I'm sure a studio like White Fox who hasn't done a lot of shows is extremely aware of the reception the viewers have on their work. I doubt they didn't notice the large group of upset fans that didn't like the original ending. Another reason would be the source material itself. It would be really illogical to merely adapt ~30% of the current story ( ~10-15% of the total story ) just to put an original ending at the end. They would simply ignore around 70% of the existing source material at that time meaning they would shoot themselves into their own foot. I mean they go all in with this adaptation ( even sacrificing OP or ED in every episode for more screen time ). Also the end of arc 3 more or less implies a sequel due to the tone and nature it ends on. Of course we won't know anything for sure until we've seen it but until then it looks very unlikely to get the AgK treatment. |
FappaMay 4, 2016 4:41 PM
| *8. *8,586 **8,586 Rokujouma no Shinryakusha!? Vol.22 Ay and it is only in two day. Based Ruth-san on the cover. Though I doubt it will rank next week but the series is selling is enough for me. Bring me season 2 please or just give me OVA covering Blue Knight Saga. |
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NeoAnkara said: *8. *8,586 **8,586 Rokujouma no Shinryakusha!? Vol.22 Ay and it is only in two day. Based Ruth-san on the cover. Though I doubt it will rank next week but the series is selling is enough for me. Bring me season 2 please or just give me OVA covering Blue Knight Saga. Good to see it in the rankings. That anime ending is just a complete tease. I hope they do deliver a 2nd season sometime down the road. |
GitahMuttan said: As much as I hope they do so but with it's popularity I don't see it happening soon unless something grand change people mind.NeoAnkara said: *8. *8,586 **8,586 Rokujouma no Shinryakusha!? Vol.22 Ay and it is only in two day. Based Ruth-san on the cover. Though I doubt it will rank next week but the series is selling is enough for me. Bring me season 2 please or just give me OVA covering Blue Knight Saga. Good to see it in the rankings. That anime ending is just a complete tease. I hope they do deliver a 2nd season sometime down the road. |
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ichii_1 said: I wonder if Overlord will break 200K with vol 10, it's been on fire int the pre orders. Looks like they got the big Re: zero boost they wanted. is the vol10 released already? cuz i heard it was delayed or smth like that... |
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| The good news is Re:Zero have 3 volumes in the ranking list. The bad news is KonoSuba totally out of the ranking list (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Also I have been wondering.... as far as I know, Conan's movie is already released right? So why would people buy the novel of the movie instead of watching the movie? Unless somehow people enjoyed reading more than watching. Well I heard the movie is very good since it's the 20th movie and Black Organization tie-in. So I guess people wanted to relive the story again and that's why it sell well. |
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BlackPoint said: ichii_1 said: I wonder if Overlord will break 200K with vol 10, it's been on fire in the pre orders.. is the vol10 released already? cuz i heard it was delayed or smth like that... It comes out on May 30th, it was a really long delay for some reason, maybe it'll come with an anime sequel announcement. |
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| NT volume 15 will probably fall out of top 10 next week. Tensei shitara Slime datta Ken becoming a thing recently as well. |
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ichii_1 said: It comes out on May 30th, it was a really long delay for some reason, maybe it'll come with an anime sequel announcement. Ah aight, checked around abit and the 10th volume should have more pages now and will probably finish the current arc. Also saw smth that the author didnt met the deadline for the release or so, anyway lets see how it sells but damn i really hope we get the 2nd season announcement with it, but knowing its madhouse and that wild ending with scenes from future volumes worries me. |
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NeoAnkara said: *8. *8,586 **8,586 Rokujouma no Shinryakusha!? Vol.22 Ay and it is only in two day. Based Ruth-san on the cover. Though I doubt it will rank next week but the series is selling is enough for me. Bring me season 2 please or just give me OVA covering Blue Knight Saga. It's 4 days, not 2 - the release date was brought forward at the last minute. That doesn't change the fact that it's 25% more sales than the last volume managed in 6 days though! ichii_1 said: I wonder if Overlord will break 200K with vol 10, it's been on fire int the pre orders. I really, really doubt that, and by making predictions like that you're making the genuinely impressive results that it is likely to see. Bear in mind: - Volume 9 sold 112k - Volume 9 came out at pretty much the best possible timing for gaining from the anime boost, whereas volume 10 will come out some time after the anime boost faded away. - Thanks to the anime boost, volume 9's last appearance on the weekly rankings was after 19 weeks. There's no way volume 10 will last anywhere near that long (although it could reappear on the year end ranks which would be even longer). To be honest, I would say that a very good result for volume 10 would be 100k sales. Even that would indicate that the series had continued to gain significant ground since the anime boost disappeared from site. 200k sales, incidentally, would indicate that there's some bizarre reason for fans to go out and buy masses of copies of volume 10 which didn't exist for any of the previous volumes. |
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kuuderes_shadow said: I though it's out at 30th April. Well isn't last volume divided because one have drama CD?NeoAnkara said: *8. *8,586 **8,586 Rokujouma no Shinryakusha!? Vol.22 Ay and it is only in two day. Based Ruth-san on the cover. Though I doubt it will rank next week but the series is selling is enough for me. Bring me season 2 please or just give me OVA covering Blue Knight Saga. It's 4 days, not 2 - the release date was brought forward at the last minute. That doesn't change the fact that it's 25% more sales than the last volume managed in 6 days though! |
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| Oricon website series rankings: *1. Re: Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu *2. Sword Art Online *3. Tensei shitara Slime datta Ken *4. Hidan no Aria *5. Kono Subarashii Sekai ni Shukufuku wo! *6. Owari no Seraph: Kyuuketsuki Mikaela no Monogatari *7. Kokuhaku Yokou Renshuu *8. Netoge no Yome wa Onna no Ko Janai to Omotta? *9. Bungou Stray Dogs 10. Hachi-nan tte, Sore wa Nai Deshou! 11. Kono Subarashii Sekai ni Shukufuku wo! Spinoff 12. Hentai Ouji to Warawanai Neko. 13. Rokujouma no Shinryakusha!? 14. Shinyaku Toaru Majutsu no Index 15. Eiga Ansatsu Kyoushitsu Novelisation 16. Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei 17. Kenja no Deshi wo Nanoru Kenja 18. Cheat Majutsu de Unmei wo Nejifuseru!! 19. Ansatsu Kyoushitsu Novelisation 20. 7th source: oricon website In case you're wondering what happened to the POS ranks, 2 weeks ago something weird happened and the book-rank data didn't match up with the shoseki data (and the discrepancies didn't make sense either), so I decided I would wait for book-rank.net to publish last week's data before continuing. Which they still haven't done. Once this is up, I'll post both last week's and this week's data. |
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NeoAnkara said: kuuderes_shadow said: I though it's out at 30th April. Well isn't last volume divided because one have drama CD?It's 4 days, not 2 - the release date was brought forward at the last minute. That doesn't change the fact that it's 25% more sales than the last volume managed in 6 days though! Yes, the official release date was 30th April. It then ended up coming out on the 28th. This sort of thing happens all the time, and HJ Bunko is one of the labels where it happens most often. As for the last volume - It did? I don't have that down in my data... Volume 20 had a drama CD but can't see one for volume 21. *looks it up* Oh, so it did. That would explain it then. Odd that it doesn't show up on a search on amazon. Incidentally that means that volume 19 was the only other recent volume that didn't have a drama CD. That one sold 8688 in 4 days, so this is a drop of 1.2% in 3 volumes which is a pretty decent result. Incidentally volume 19 then ranked a second week. With next week having a really low number of releases due to being Golden Week, I certainly wouldn't count a second week on the rankings out. |
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| @kuuderes_shadow Then the possibility of it ranked on the second week isn't low right? That's good enough for me even if in the end it didn't rank on second week.. |
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| SAO at the top again lmao |
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| Index not even making 100k after 4 weeks.... Dying real fast kuuderes_shadow said: NeoAnkara said: *8. *8,586 **8,586 Rokujouma no Shinryakusha!? Vol.22 Ay and it is only in two day. Based Ruth-san on the cover. Though I doubt it will rank next week but the series is selling is enough for me. Bring me season 2 please or just give me OVA covering Blue Knight Saga. It's 4 days, not 2 - the release date was brought forward at the last minute. That doesn't change the fact that it's 25% more sales than the last volume managed in 6 days though! ichii_1 said: I wonder if Overlord will break 200K with vol 10, it's been on fire int the pre orders. I really, really doubt that, and by making predictions like that you're making the genuinely impressive results that it is likely to see. Bear in mind: - Volume 9 sold 112k - Volume 9 came out at pretty much the best possible timing for gaining from the anime boost, whereas volume 10 will come out some time after the anime boost faded away. - Thanks to the anime boost, volume 9's last appearance on the weekly rankings was after 19 weeks. There's no way volume 10 will last anywhere near that long (although it could reappear on the year end ranks which would be even longer). To be honest, I would say that a very good result for volume 10 would be 100k sales. Even that would indicate that the series had continued to gain significant ground since the anime boost disappeared from site. 200k sales, incidentally, would indicate that there's some bizarre reason for fans to go out and buy masses of copies of volume 10 which didn't exist for any of the previous volumes. yeah, I dont see vol 10 doing 200k when even vol 1 hasnt done that (unless we get new data of the complete boost) ichi might be hinting that because it's covering new material that wasnt on web version, but 200k is too big of a number. I'd say 125k before dropping off the list |
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| *3. 18,558 *18,558 Tensei shitara Slime datta Ken Vol.7 One of the stupidest series I've ever read, it has a somewhat unique plot but that doesn't make it a good series. I'm also surprise on how high it's rated on mal. |
| Great to see SAO ln doing this well. Just waiting for the adaptation announcement that will most likely come with the movie now. Sad to see Re;Zero so low but I guess it is too complex of a work to "grab" the generic audience. Still at least it is doing decently enough. |
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| SAO on top again , need alicization badly ... Hidan no aria over 20K , liked the show in its 1st season but not the 2nd season. Bungou stray dogs has a novel too . I thought it was just the manga . Didn't know about it till now . |
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Fai said: Great to see SAO ln doing this well. Just waiting for the adaptation announcement that will most likely come with the movie now. Sad to see Re;Zero so low but I guess it is too complex of a work to "grab" the generic audience. Still at least it is doing decently enough. I don't know what do you see as "so low"? O.o It has 3 volumes in the rankings and is overall the best selling novel last week. As a series who just gets its first advertising ever this more than solid. Also Re:Zero has the advantage of having 25 weeks of active advertising. Even If it was low, it would still be a solid amount over the course of its airing time. Am I missing something here ? :o |
Fappa said: Fai said: Great to see SAO ln doing this well. Just waiting for the adaptation announcement that will most likely come with the movie now. Sad to see Re;Zero so low but I guess it is too complex of a work to "grab" the generic audience. Still at least it is doing decently enough. I don't know what do you see as "so low"? O.o It has 3 volumes in the rankings and is overall the best selling novel last week. As a series who just gets its first advertising ever this more than solid. Also Re:Zero has the advantage of having 25 weeks of active advertising. Even If it was low, it would still be a solid amount over the course of its airing time :o. plus re:zero was already popular in japan's ranobe community (the web novel has 23 million hits) |
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eromangasensei said: plus re:zero was already popular in japan's ranobe community (the web novel has 23 million hits) Oh you mean Yeah I saw that. Talk about a boost, huh? |
| I'm interested in LV999 Might start reading the LN, or should I just read the WN? |
Snappynator said: The Owari no Seraph LN is doing far better than I first suspected :o I already expected it since the LN in my opinion gives off a more heavy dark fantasy vibes. And as off now, is far more interesting. Anyway, congrats to it. It would be good if this will have a movie or something specially the Guren's LN |
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eromangasensei said: ichi might be hinting that because it's covering new material that wasnt on web version. Nah, because it's been nr 1 on amazon jp's LN list for about a month until recently. Yeah and I know what you want to say "don't use amazon only for a prediction". Maybe 150K then. |
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Fappa said: yep, quite a bit. Most people have this huge boner for time loop & dark suspense stuff anyway (myself included) eromangasensei said: plus re:zero was already popular in japan's ranobe community (the web novel has 23 million hits) Oh you mean Yeah I saw that. Talk about a boost, huh? ichii_1 said: eromangasensei said: ichi might be hinting that because it's covering new material that wasnt on web version. Nah, because it's been nr 1 on amazon jp's LN list for about a month until recently. Yeah and I know what you want to say "don't use amazon only for a prediction". Maybe 150K then. hey, I have no idea how amazon works for LN sales xD but yeah, overlord always ranks well on amazon since boost started |
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| Actually Conan's movie has been doing extremely well and it's topping the rankings of Japan's box office. No wonder the LN is also doing well. However, is it exactly the same as the movie? |
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