NwAurion said:Tachii said:
f anything their will to fight is more or less to seek their own survival, not really humanity's existence. After all, even when Yuji declared his goals the Denizens was still killing every flame haze they could see. :/.
That, and the fact there is a way to live without killing humans as shown by Lamies/Spiral Organ, together with no Tomogorra decided this on his own, and Yuji didn't order them to do so leaves me with the impression that Yuji would still create this new world if they could show that it would ineviatable come to this catastrophe.
He would argue "i will figure something out in the mean time". What? You had some thousand years to figure something out.
If he would be interested in real peace, he would have done several things:
Started negotiating even before retrieving his body, order the Tomogora to stop eating people (at least if they can avoid it, would depend on the amount of Torches available at all times), and stopped them from pursuing the retreating flame haze.
Especially the last..really? He was like: "Why do you fight? We can have peace! Drop your weapons now, so my army can slaughter you, once you are all gone, there will be no more war, ever! See? I have everything planned out!".
Instead they started to attack Outlaw all over the world, he went retrieving his body, and when the Flame Haze started a
counterattack he did not stop the fighting, but decided this was the best moment to finally announce his plans he was asked about several times before by Shana, which
surprisingly (a god that had thousand of year to plan his comeback down to the minute surely didn't think of the impact his speech would have on the enemy..) led to a drop of moral in the Flame Haze army which were slaughtered without mercy, many Tomogora actually seemed to enjoy it.
And Sydonay would even have killed Shana, just because Yuji didn't explicitily tell him not to. So either Yuji did this on purpose, because he no longer has any use for Shana, or even now his subordinates go knowingly against his wishes (he clearly showed that Shana is not to be killed in the incident with Hecate - and Hecate is even Sydonays superior).
Even now he didn't use the time to negotiate, he didn't even consider it once, instead he orders to immediately move the Sereiden to Misaki city, not even taking time to cloak it again, because Outlaw could find our or they could be attacked.
Really? The Flame Haze lost 80% of their army they had *after* the Tomogora destroyed many Outlaw offices, they even killed two of the most powerful Flame Haze with Samuel and Centerhill, and they still have to hurry and have no time for anything because of the Flame Hate?
This is not even a lame excuse, it's outright bullshit. Yuji could take all the time he needs to explain it in detail to every single flame haze one by one until they are convinced he is right, after all, he can simply proceed with it like he does now if needed, or order his army to attack them again.
This together with even Centerhill (and the others probably too, they wouldn't be waiting for them otherwise) agreeing to join the fight and telling them the real reason what causes the unbalance, there is simply no reason to believe any word Yuji says.
He could have avoided everything if he talked to Shana once he was back, he decided not to. Also, it's not the Flame Haze job to negotiate. They were created to fight against anyone who disturbs the balance. If the Flame Haze attack you in your own city, you clearly did something very wrong. Either the reason for the attack is true, or you failed terriblly in trying to prevent it. Or you never tried, like Yuji, after all, you can only fail if you try.
I don't exactly agree on the way the Flame Haze do some stuff, like Sophie is really weird, that they immediately lost reason to fight there, and them suddenly coming up with a new reason thats essentially the same..but given the circumstances, they are doing a pretty good job.
@ClemensIV: They didn't throw that out, he mentioned that at least once directly. He even said the one that created him is "there" when heading to the battle then.