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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- The brother sister relationships in this anime are messed up. |
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| Kozue is my second favorite character. I loved when she pushed the guy away when she was done talking to him. Wow, Miki's a big p-word. And a loser. lol. I hate to say that, I just don't like Miki very much, if I ever did in the past. I love how much darker the series got. I've seen the Black Rose Arc a few times but I've seen the first Arc either only once or maybe twice. Now that I have the first Arc in my head, I feel like this episode is a little bit out of character for Kozue. But I'm sure that'll be explained in another episode about them. |
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| Utena's just plowing through these pawns but at least they serve the purpose to shed more back story. Also That piano teacher has got to be the creepiest person ever. I don't think you have to get THAT CLOSE to talk and hold him by the hip, doesn't help the fact that miki is well.. miki. Also Anthy's brother like the other episode loves to sit on the couch in funny ways, nothing major just funny |
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| I love how adorable Miki is <3 Need to know more about Akio~~~ |
| 頭脳は子供、見た目は大人！ ƪ(˘⌣˘)ʃ |
| Time machine! That wondrous charm! Fi! Fi! Confeito |
| I'm sure all this means something...but I'm not sure what. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| That "Choo Choo" at the end was kind of disturbing... Awwh, poor Kozue though D: I really like her character. Hopefully they'll give her some more screentime in the future. |
 Znips: When Shay is born she just crawls back in the womb to shitpost for another year |
| So, I'm guessing whoever goes in for an "interview", is assessed on how much of a problem they have with Anthy. I don't really know the correlation between Anthy and the black rose (and black rings) though. This episode seems like on that would be worth re-watching once one has finished the series. |
EOTWDec 31, 2011 1:00 AM
| that is really-really disturbing when anthy said "Choo Choo" mikey is so adorable!! i can't blame the piano teacher, who wouldn't want to rape someone as cute as him?!!!!!! |
| I wonder what's with Anthy at the end. Pretty interesting episode. |
| Lol they just skip to the prehistoric music now and duel. |
| Even when I was in crowd, I was always alone |
| Choo Choo Never thought that phrase could sound so creepy. Anyway, I am liking the "interview" scenes so far - they are kind of dark and have lots of symbolism. Also, it is cool that Utena is now around for the shadow plays and the she responds to them too. |
| I'm really glad I'm an only child. The brother/sister relationships in this show would be even more disturbing otherwise. |
KinrynSep 13, 2012 5:23 PM
| Another strange episode, but not much different from what happened in the previous episode. Hope they through me in for a loop here soon to maintain interest in the arc. |
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| I like seeing more of Miki and Kozue's relationship. I wonder if Kozue really has those types of feelings for her brother or it was just the ring...? It wouldn't surprise me if she did though... Incestuous feelings aren't uncommon in this anime haha |
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| So, now all of the brothers and sisters in this anime have some kind of incestuous relationship. I can only hope that Utena is truly an only child. Choo-Choo will haunt me forever. |
| Akio choo choo~~ :d |
| [quote=Amaya-dono]That "Choo Choo" at the end was kind of disturbing.../quote] Ugh, they are going at it every week. |
| Those endings though... E_E At least Kozue managed to put up some sort of fight with Utena other than the girl who lost in one shot. |
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| something I've been wondering about is why Mamiya wants to be the Rose Bride. to me it sounds like being a Rose Bride isn't that fun and you lose your own will (or something) oh thank GOD Utena is the only child, she's the only sane character also, is that the only piano song anyone knows in this anime? it's a nice song but after hearing it so many times it's getting repetitive choo...choo.....D: |
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| This show is a shipper's dream. Both types of dreams: good dreams and nightmares. 4/5 |
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| The last scenes is starting to creep me out |
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| Oh, great another girl with a huge brother complex lol How many insert songs does this show have? Not that i'm complaining since they're all fucking amazing! |
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| Wow the writers have really start to smoke crack with these latest episodes. But I did like Anthy drinking one of the milkshakes that were on those tables during Utena's duel. That was a nice touch. |
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Ston3_FreeN7 said: I'm sure all this means something...but I'm not sure what. It's all symbolic of homophobia and life in an oppresive society. Maybe. I don't know. Saying that only cause everyone here's pretty gay. Jokes aside tho, I would like to understand what this is supposed to represent too. I'm liking the show but feel like I'm missing the big picture. |
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| At this point I'm thinking the writer had a brother complex lol To be honest, fillers aside, I liked the first arc better. Let's see where this one goes. Choo choo~ |
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| Anthy drunk outta one of the jugs during the duel lmao choo choo |
| see you, space cowperson . . . |
| Eh. Although there's nothing inherently wrong with the format and I've seen plenty of mahou shoujo use it well, I can't say I'm too thrilled with the more episodic take on the story. The main characters aren't in focus heavily enough anymore (which many mahou shoujo manage to do well with this format), nor are the focus characters developed well enough for me to care about them (like in, say, a show such as Heartcatch Precure!, which overall handled character drama well even when episodic). Up until now Utena has been very different from traditional mahou shoujo, so much so that I've been iffy about whether it should be considered one at all. It had a core cast that were themselves the enemies faced regularly, which allowed a lot more time to be spent on developing their respective characters, which along with the mysteries they were tied to made the fights more interesting. Although I don't mind the introduction of more characters to the core cast, abandoning the former format for something closer to a traditional one is only revealing that this is worse at the traditional format than its contemporaries. Stick to what you're been doing well if you can't do something new just as well, I say. I did find the new lines about smashing "the world's cage" by Nanami during the student council entrance to be interesting. Also tfw "choo choo" at the end. The relationships in this show are so messed up at times. |
TripleSRankMay 31, 2017 11:14 PM
| The seminar got to Miki's sister, huh? The look in her eyes after the Black Rose possessed her was downright freaky. And of course, there was that scene where she tried to come on to her brother...can no one in this anime have a normal relationship with their sibling? |
| "No, son, you may not have your body pillow at the dinner table!" |
| Maybe I'm a little late in realizing this, but this school is really not safe for minors at all. All aboard the creep train! ＣＨＯＯ ＣＨＯＯ  |
| I LIKED THE PREVIOUS APOCALYPSE SONG LOT MOREEE, IT HAD MORE IMPACT. :( So i see incest or incest fantasies are a regular thing in this anime xD wasn't expecting it at all. What truly surprises me is how much of a cleaver one Anthy is; at first glance she seems so defenseless and without any will or freedom of her own, but then we start grasping all this 'dark' sides of her, the mystery surrounding her character is real af. "Choo Choo" LOOL. Nailed it for sure. |
 SEIZON SENRYAKU: Hungry 100% of the time.Vzla-IT |
| UNLIMITED INCEST WORKS Since they've started the whole Student Council Sword thing. My guess is that the next evil mook is going to be Juri's ex-boyfriend or her old best friend, because you know all her backst... Wait, lemme watch the preview real quick... Well, well, well, well. It's the infamous Cow episode, which means MORE FILLER. Never have I ever been happier to get some filler in an anime. The plot CAN and WILL wait. |
| Around the gif~ "It's a big mistake to think you're the only one who can turn into a car" - Shiori Takatsuki |
| Choo Choo. I honestly don't think that Anthy has "such" a relationship with her brother. |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
| Can't say I particularly care for these secondary characters :x Here I was kinda hoping new arc would end "battle of the week" routine, but guess not. |
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| At some point someone in this series will have a normal, somewhat healthy relationship with their sibling. Maybe. |
| *Mourning the disappointment of The Promised Neverland season 2.* |
| Sibling relationships in Utena are really bizarre, I have to say. I wonder if the scene with Miki and the music teacher being close is real or exists only on Kozue's imagination. Anyway, this episode is as enjoyable as always - and not without its symbolism. I believe that all the propellers at the student council meetings represent the wind and kinda imply that the council has nothing to do at the moment. This is proved by the fact that there're no letters from the End of the World. Also, when Akio started talking about watching the moon with Anthy, I instantly understood that they make love with each other. "Moon" and "love" sound almost identical in Japanese, and representing love through the moon is a common metaphor in anime. |
| What if Chuchu is prince. |
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| Never knew we would see Miki's sister again. Didn't she already slept with Touga a few episodes ago? And now, she suddenly cares about what Miki thinks? :\ She's too Tsundere and just won't admit in front of his brother that she is jealous. |
| here are some Utena crackpot theories for this episode. -The shadow show where the train conductor is selling to the one guy represents how Miki and Anthys interaction, despite it being something very normal is something that the sister cannot ignore even though she wants to,and no one else is annoyed but her hence she is the “only one in the train” and when Utena says to ignore her, the guy gets the conductor’s attention anyways and that represents represents her succumbing to envy and trying to kill anthy. -the milk shakes scenes in which during one scene Kaoru rejects the milkshake from the pink cup , and later a flashback where the milkshakes are together represent how different both of their personalities and how disconnected they are to each other now versus when they were children. Miki finishing his glass and Kaoru not touch hers represents how Miki has no more baggage about his situation because of Anthy while Kaoru still has feelings to deal with. Anthy can be seen drinking a milkshake during the battle too, that represents her interactions with Miki.The rotating roses in the corner could symbolize catalysts for them starting to become more connected to each other now.Since one rose appears when they meet in the halway and another appears after the battle is over. |
"Get your tentacles off me or ill make calamari out of your manhood" -Mirai Nikki Dub |
| Incest is wincest |
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| That's a lot of messed up sibling relationships ... I actually like stories like that , they help me understand psychology and people even better. And I've only just understood that Utena is 14 and Miki's sister is 13 , while Nanami is actually 15 and older than all of them ... Well , her mental age is around 12. |
ZevvenJan 21, 2021 12:45 AM
| I hate everyone equally |
| Why do all sibling relationships in this show have to be so messed up? Poor Miki. Also, the deal with Kozue longing for her brother's attention is basically the same storyline they used with Nanami a few episodes ago but with less craziness... well, kinda? Kozue still pushed a teacher down the stairs for talking too often to Miki and even fucked Touga just to make her brother feel bad. God this people... Choo choo~ ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) |
SouthRzVaApr 18, 2021 12:23 AM
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