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Jul 16, 2009 1:49 PM
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THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER.
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All I can say still say since chapter 17 is...
Jul 16, 2009 4:23 PM
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Endless despair. With her hair down they kind of look okay together which is sad...
Jul 16, 2009 5:18 PM
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Geez...i really feel for Kurosawa..

>.<
Jul 16, 2009 9:26 PM
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Hmm. Sure is Toradora around here.
Jul 17, 2009 12:20 AM
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Jul 23, 2009 7:55 PM
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Epic pic man! XD

My gosh.... Kuro-kun flipped.... And Kitahara actually blurted out the truth.... She's angry 'cause Takagawa-chan stole her man.... Not that she tried to talk to him or do a thing for him to notice her.... But damn!!! I can't believe Kitahara actually cried....and Kuro exploded... I can't believe it.... he actually did it... He couldn't hold it anymore.... Waht will happen know huh? I love the Haruhi references! XD

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Jul 29, 2009 8:00 AM
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Yuunagi said:
絶望した。
This.
I hate Nagaoka.. >.<
Aug 6, 2009 6:17 AM
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I'm just lost with words.. the suspense is killing me..
"It's because you exist.. That I'm here right now.."
Jan 8, 2010 7:00 AM
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He snapped..of course me too
Apr 5, 2010 12:41 AM

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Animyers said:

Jun 21, 2010 3:28 PM
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Well he simply snapped... I was expecting him to punch Nagaoka.
Feb 19, 2011 3:39 PM

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Yuunagi said:
絶望した。
Jun 3, 2011 4:32 AM

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He's going to be more of a lone wolf now.
'Everything is impossible until proven possible.' - Me

Nov 19, 2011 8:16 PM

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he did snap i expected him too though...man i still dont like them together. i know Nagaoka is a good guy and i used to think he was alright but now i dislike him. how could be steal takigawa away from kurosawa and change her :(
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Apr 14, 2012 6:18 AM

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So Kitahara likes Nagaoka. Now I can understand the reason for her request. And Nagaoka was being way too annoying already so I guess it's alright that Kurosawa snapped.
May 7, 2012 6:05 PM

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damn.. I really hoped that takagawa will change kurosawa but damn that brocolli!! i hate it.. I'm dropping this manga.. T.T
My Grandmother Always said.. He who walks through the path of heaven will rule over everything..

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All I can say still say since chapter 17 is...


QFT

What the fuck, hit us by the blindside... Didn't see ANY development between the two, but it just happened.(Guessing at cram school but still..)
It even seemed that the Otaku king knew to some degree MC was interested in Takagawa.

GAH WTF.
Touch me, you filthy casual~
Jan 29, 2013 5:59 AM

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dude is heartbroken lol.
Apr 14, 2013 5:14 AM

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That's harsh... I feel terrible for Kurosawa.
May 22, 2013 12:59 PM

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Kurosawa cant fap and sleep properly. And this Nagaoka is acting all too friendly. If i were in Kurosawa's place i would have beaten the shit out of him long ago.
Jul 27, 2013 8:20 PM

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I really feel for Kurosawa's heart break, but no matter how I look at it, Nagatsuka isn't at fault. His afro and weird style makes him out to be unappealing, but honestly he's not a bad guy. He's always reached out to Kurosawa and is completely clueless about his feelings for Takagawa.
Sep 11, 2013 5:58 AM

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The pain... I can feel everything. *urghhh*
Jan 11, 2014 12:23 AM

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what's wrong with you guys ? Nagaoka is not at fault at all.. I was quite annoyed by him at the beginning, but at this case he was not doing something wrong at all..

This chapter is really tense.. It was killing my heart ...
"The Slave is the have-not, the oppressed one with nothing to spare.
But because the Slave is in that despairing situation, having nothing, it can kill the Emperor !"
Jun 7, 2014 12:38 PM

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I know that feeling all to well Master Kurosawa. I know exactly what he's going through right now.
Jun 11, 2014 6:54 PM

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I can't blame Kurosawa for acting like that but he said so himself... what kind of guy Nagaoka is.. anyway I'm still rooting for him.. last chapter made me rage but it's all in the past now.. good thing I took a break before I read this
Jul 23, 2014 1:52 AM

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lool that plot twist
Jul 30, 2014 6:51 AM

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Poor guy Kurosawa ):
Aug 2, 2014 6:05 AM

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lool that plot twist
Aug 2, 2014 11:51 PM

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The Agony in my conscience ..
The Painful feeling I felt ...
Heartbreaking scenarios ..
Oh man .. The Rage here is ... not good .
Master's decision .
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Sep 22, 2014 6:13 AM
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Poor Kakeru he totally snapped.
Feb 23, 2015 9:28 AM
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They can't do this.
They showed us the development of Takagawa and Kurosawa's relationship.
They didn't show us Takagawa and Nagaoka's. The only thing we know is that it happened during their cram school.
I know that Nagaoka isn't at fault, and he is actually a really nice guy, but still, I can't seem to accept it. They don't have chemistry.
May 5, 2015 3:25 PM
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Man that ship was fucking perfect, why did they had to half assed it by giving Takigawa to Nagaoka... smh.
Jun 13, 2015 11:57 PM

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Whoaa.. I didn't realized that Kitahara was playing the nice girl here. I thought she was going to reveal Kurosawa's secret by saying it regret. Didn't know it was this deep. Kurosawa fucking snapped bro. Damn... Kitahara likes Nagaoka and Kurosawa likes Takigawa. This polygon love is sad.

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Reading this makes me remember all the times I've been through this kind of situation ... I feel for him .
Feb 3, 2016 7:24 PM

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Kurosawa finally snapped. Poor guy.
Sep 7, 2016 10:45 AM

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As much as I'm annoyed by this, I don't get why didn't Kitahara explained the situation to Kurosawa much sooner when he asked about it. Maybe then he could've done something about it.
Sep 12, 2016 2:51 PM

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Nagaoka turned out to be quite the chick-magnet

It's hard to stop reading after this chapter.... I wanna know!
Dec 6, 2016 11:31 PM

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For real tho, Nagaoka is a really nice guy
No wonder she likes him
Mar 16, 2017 10:39 PM

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Been in Kurosawa's shoes a couple of times...very frustrating indeed. Although, you can't be angry on a guy for trying, Takigawa and Nagaoka seems a bit off...something is not right.
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ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooook stop relating to me a couple of years ago i swear. But to be honest, Nagaoka is a really chill guy, if i was in Kurosawa's shoes I'd still hang out with him.
Oct 23, 2019 9:32 AM

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Seeing master like that makes me sad
Jan 9, 2020 8:41 PM

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Damn Kurosawa snapped. He's mad that this atrocity has happened. And now we know why Kitahara wants Kurosawa to do this job. She likes Nagaoka.
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That fang Takagawa got when she addressed Nagaoka as Kyon-kun makes me think she was doing a Tsuruya impression in that scene. In that case the Otaku King really hit a jackpot finding himslef a gf who's willing to cosplay like that. And i kinda lost sympathy with Kurosawa in the end here - the proper reaction would have been not to show his despair aggressively, but to keep acting as usual while slowly drowning in self-loathing and misery on the inside.

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As much as I'm annoyed by this, I don't get why didn't Kitahara explained the situation to Kurosawa much sooner when he asked about it. Maybe then he could've done something about it.

I think she understood that he wouldn't believe her and she obviously couldn't just confess her love for Nagaoka to him.
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Ahh at this point I don't what's true the same thing happened to me in my school life it was relatable that I just broke out of tears the line "the Takagawa Magister that I know is nowhere to be found" broke my heart it was soo heart-wrenching
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Kurosawa's jealousy got the better of him.
He's gonna get ruined at this rate!!

This is painful to read from Kurosawa's perspective but Nagaoka is truly a good person.


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Man I hate nagaoka tbh he's not at fault infact he's a good person but I still hate him even from the beginning, personal feeling.

Kitahara likes nagaoka? Didn't expect that, I thought she likes kurosawa.
Poor kurosawa :(
Jul 4, 2022 3:18 PM
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I can't believe people here are actually hating on Brocolli. How tf is he supposed to know the mc likes her. He's been a friend of him since day 1 and always tried to be friends with him. It's no ones fault here.
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Ephraim_Renais said:
I can't believe people here are actually hating on Brocolli. How tf is he supposed to know the mc likes her. He's been a friend of him since day 1 and always tried to be friends with him. It's no ones fault here.

My same thoughts exactly.

Of course when reading it from Kurosawa's perspective, it easier to get sympathized with him the most (and obviously it is very painful experience), but Nagaoka did nothing wrong but the opposite, he just was always positive, friendly and even admired Kurosawa. It is not surprising that such a friendly and cheerful person got the girl in the end (at least for now).

I would even guess that if Kurosawa wasn't rejecting and looking down on Nagaoka all the time, he wouldn't get into this situation in the first place.

So yeah, sucks for Kurosawa but I am actually happy for Nagaoka and Takagawa.
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I disagree with you guys, I love Kurosawa and he’s my favorite character in this manga but, in my opinion he’s definitely at fault here. Nagaoka didn’t know Kurosawa had feelings for her so he’s not at fault. You can make the argument that Takagawa is at fault for leading him on, but Kurosawa caught feelings and know he’s being an asshole to one of his only friends.
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Until now I still can't accept Takigawa's character development. Holy shit, she was too perfect for this world maybe, so they changed her instead.

I'm currently rereading this masterpiece.
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