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Jul 9, 2009 9:53 PM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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That was so sad when Martel was died! I hate that dude who killed her!!! And poor Al... Martel was one of my favorites... I even cried...
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Jul 14, 2009 12:39 AM

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sasuke78787 said:
THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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That was so sad when Martel was died! I hate that dude who killed her!!! And poor Al... Martel was one of my favorites... I even cried...


I did not cry,allthough I found the Episode good even if I "again" stand alone with more and more questions
 
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Jul 16, 2009 9:06 AM

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That was pretty messed up.
 
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Jul 16, 2009 9:59 PM

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martel~ ;_;




the soldiers forced themselves on rose!! bastards!
 
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Apr 25, 2010 3:47 PM

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When Bredley killed Martel his sword was clean, without blood.
 
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Nov 6, 2010 11:39 PM

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Aw the Fuhrer is so nice, doing a favor to Al just like that. Now seriously, this is become really good, I guess that at this point I can safety assume that the Fuhrer is Pride.
 
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Nov 17, 2010 12:11 PM

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Wtf. How is Al going to take out Martel of his "body"? O_o So confusing.
 
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Dec 17, 2010 11:31 PM

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I'm guessing the baby belonged to Rose?
 
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Mar 7, 2011 5:57 AM

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Sad episode, Martel died D:
 
May 18, 2011 5:21 PM
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should have seen it coming...
especially with the fuhrers lightning fast moves when he pinched that wrath in the episode where the southern base goes down.
 
May 20, 2011 9:45 AM

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I was sure that Fuhrer was hommunculi, but I though the he was Envy at all the time. All this case with Sloth under Fuhrer's command, despite how suspicious things was with her(he's Fuhrer, how come he does not check the files of his subordinate). As things turns out, Pride's on move. Scar keeps on being on the top of my favorite FMA characters, with few ones else.
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May 26, 2011 4:18 PM

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so who excalty is the furer. and he had the "ultimate eye", so he's definitly a homonculi (however u call them)


 
Jun 2, 2011 7:24 PM
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Poor Rose and Martel :(
 
Jun 9, 2011 10:10 AM
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I don't understand why the Fuhrer kept Al alive.
 
Sep 8, 2011 11:51 AM
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enkil said:
martel~ ;_;




the soldiers forced themselves on rose!! bastards!


I think it was implied. I never gave it much thought until I recently rewatched it. Can anyone confirm it is Rose's baby brought by rape?
 
Nov 15, 2011 6:37 PM
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This was one of the best FMA episodes. The ending with Marta's blood seeping out of Al's armor...poor Al. Somewhat like having a late miscarriage and carrying a dead human inside of you.
 
May 2, 2012 5:42 AM

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Awesome episode. Much love to Scar's Back story.
 
Sep 7, 2012 3:58 PM

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Damn that ending was fucked :(
 
Oct 7, 2012 1:41 AM

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so Lust really is the lover of the brother of Scar.

and wow is there gonna be a massive death of state alchemist this time around???

and wow didn't Lyra tried a some sort of special transmutation circle that tried to lock Greed??

isn't she also the one that killer Dante??

so Dante did performed a Human Transmutation, and the result is Greed :P

that's why Greed was hesitant when he first came to Dante and saw her.

and wow Rose was probably tortured and rape.

damn that bastard general is freaking fast.

he has the ultimate eye?? wtf!?!?!?!?!

Marta!!!!!!

NOOOOOO T_______T

Ed and Al better pay back this asshole.
 
Jul 27, 2013 2:46 PM
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O. My. Gosh.
 
Aug 19, 2013 5:38 PM

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Martel ಥ_ಥ
 
Sep 8, 2013 7:45 AM

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What a dick. "I don't want to kill the Lior people, so I'm gonna kill your people instead, 'kay?".
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Jan 23, 2014 3:15 PM
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This episode was suprising what with the whole situation with Rose and Martel being killed. And what was with that guy's eye? Is he a homunculus?
 
Jan 30, 2014 11:59 PM

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okay things are getting really interesting over and over again but i get kinda lost right now on what is going on and not.

what is going on with the fuhrer is he a homunculus to or something?

wasn't that maid (forgot her name) the one who actually kill Dante?

people are talking about rose being raped or tortured and that they hinted that somewhere in the show but when did they hint that i never noticed something like that and if that is true i missed a really big hint which is hard for me to believe. i only knew that gluttony was playing for priest for a little while when the priest was killed.
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May 25, 2014 6:54 AM

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fuhrerrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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Marta, oh no. That was sad.

I knew it was going to turn out that they didn't start the war after all.

Poor Rose, yeah, that baby was probably the result of rape, awwww ;___________;

What is the ultimate eye thing? Is he a baddy or has someone took his place?
 
Sep 22, 2014 3:44 AM

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Oh yeah, the Pride reveal and goodbye Martel.
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Sep 29, 2014 9:45 PM

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Man, that scene with Rose is very disturbing. I think this is also one of the reason why FMA is very remarkable, it exposed areas most shonen series wouldn't dare step into. In war there will be rape, torture and murder. Inhumane ones. I remember the first time watching this episode nearly 10 years ago, being young and squeamish, I thought if I'm in Rose's shoes I'd probably commit suicide.

I'm actually a bit irked at how Al didn't offer any resistance. Maybe he couldn't sense Bradley's presence, thus taken by surprise?

There's also one thing I'm a bit confused about. Locations. Basically. Al and the other soldiers are currently in.... a fully furnished military base in Ishbal? Or in the Eastern military office? Because I didn't remember AL+Ed+Martel being brought away to the Eastern office from Ishbal...

Oh! One more thing... What did Scar's brother sacrificed in its attempt to transmute human, again? I mean, which part of the body?
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Dec 28, 2014 3:22 AM
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Heh, Lyra again, huh. She just appears and disappears, doesn't she.
What the fuck......They raped Rose?!?! That's unforgivable!! These military fuckers are rotten!! Also, why are they so harsh on the Ishbalan people?!?!
I like how Scar and Ed are fighting, and then few minutes later, they are casually talking ahahaha.
Shit, is the Fuhrer really a bad guy?? Martel T^T
 
Jan 14, 2015 3:10 PM

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That was fucked up... This guy needs to pay.
 
Feb 12, 2015 2:57 PM

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This story is such a mess ._.
 
Feb 16, 2015 4:45 AM

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Oh my.. O___O That scene.. just wow. ;-; Poor Al, poor Marta..
 
Feb 23, 2015 8:11 PM

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I really wanted the Fuhrer to be good and woop some ass at the end :(

RIP Marta.

My guess is the Fuhrer is the one keeping these homunculi strong and teaching them.... and he is the seventh?

Idk. shrug :/ that must be so traumatic for Al though. :((((
 
Apr 12, 2015 8:09 AM

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Bradley revealing his true nature always blows me away, giant shivers ran all over my body when he casually sank the sword down into Alphonse.
 
Jul 12, 2015 6:58 PM

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Really didn't expect Martel to die
 
Jul 12, 2015 10:40 PM

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NOOOooooo T^T Marta....And she didn't even get to tell Al about what that guy was going to do =(

So this is what we know about which Homunculi is which so far:
Dante's transmutation created Greed
Izumi's transmutation created Wrath
Ed and Al's transmutation created Sloth possibly?
Scar's brothers transmutation created Lust
So at this point we don't know who created Gluttony, Envy, or Pride...

Also, is Pride a shapeshifter like Envy? Because this whole time I thought Envy was the one turning into...I still don't know his name...Bradley? Or something? But everyone says it's actually Pride?

And wow Rose has a baby...Wait, what?! o,o
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Robertovk said:
people are talking about rose being raped or tortured and that they hinted that somewhere in the show but when did they hint that i never noticed something like that and if that is true i missed a really big hint which is hard for me to believe. i only knew that gluttony was playing for priest for a little while when the priest was killed.


It's because they said she went through so much trauma that she lost the ability to speak, and then she comes out holding a baby. I'm not sure if she was or not though.

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Wtf. How is Al going to take out Martel of his "body"? O_o So confusing.


I didn't even think about that O_O It might even be dangerous trying to remove her because of his blood seal...But it's gonna be hard to do either way.

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I'm guessing the baby belonged to Rose?


I guess so! I was really surprised when she came out carrying a baby o,o
 
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Omg... I didn't understand why Rose suddenly couldn't speak. I thought she just took a vow of silence with whatever holy mother cult stuff she has going on. When she brought out the baby and implied that the soldiers raped her, I was completely floored.

And poor Martel. I liked her a lot... I was so confused about the Fuhrer though! I always thought that when the Fuhrer did bad things then he was Envy in disguise! But now I guess we learned that the real Fuhrer is Pride!? /mindblown

It seemed like Martel got the information to Al in time, but her death was awful... I can't believe Al just stood there and let the Fuhrer run her through like that! He must have been in shock about what Martel told him. How traumatic for her to be dead inside him though... Poor AL.

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Nov 17, 2015 6:58 AM

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Wonderful episode, when it seems that everything is clear here come the revelations to subvert the certainties that until then one had built with great patience; Some findings are plausible while others are so amazing to leave you speechless. Narration very good, just the ending leaves me a little bitter taste, the strange reaction of Al, at least I would have tried a reaction when I left by my behind his back.
 
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Fuuuckk... And I was starting to like Martel as well.
 
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Fuhrer killing Martel in Al was fucked up!

 
Feb 26, 2016 1:38 PM

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This ep was loaded. Scar's backstory was heavy, and Martel's death was sad. What shocked me the most was that this show, a SHONEN, had implied gang rape in it. I mean who else fathered Rose's child? That's SO messed up, really makes you want to root for Scar to just kill the soldiers, even though Ed is right and the soldiers don't deserve to be murdered. Damn FMA 2003 is kinda depressing :(
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Mar 2, 2016 1:38 AM

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This was pretty fucked up. Poor Rose and Martel.
 
Aug 28, 2016 2:30 AM

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Damn, killing Martel inside of Al was really messed up. That can't be great for Al.
 
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Damn, killing Martel inside of Al was really messed up. That can't be great for Al.
I gotta ask but are you watching the dub or the sub?
 
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Tylaen said:
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Damn, killing Martel inside of Al was really messed up. That can't be great for Al.
I gotta ask but are you watching the dub or the sub?

Sub. I've heard the dub is fantastic but I prefer sub over dub most of the time. Seriously though I absolutely love this sub I think Ed and Al's voices are incredibly well done. Eds VA has to be one of my favorites now.
 
Feb 11, 2017 11:25 AM

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Fuck, I knew Lyra was going to somehow show up somewhere again. And it seems the military is completely compromised... Great episode.
 
May 27, 2017 12:25 PM

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Martel :( - I really liked her.
Rose having a kid after being kidnapped by the military, I can only imagine what happened ... ugh.
 
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The whole thing with Rose is so messed up, poor girl! I can definitely understand why a lot of characters despise the military.

Also, poor Al! That scene when the Fuhrer kills Martel while she's inside him is so messed up and I can't even imagine how Al must've felt. How is he even gonna get her out of there now?
 
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Didn't really get that part about Rose, oh well.

RIP Martel, pretty weird and cruel way to die.
 
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