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Jul 9, 2009 2:31 AM

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MarthX said:
Maybe for future episodes. Two threads should be created. One for the visual novel players and one for the anime only watchers.


Not sure how good of an idea this would be. I have the vague impression that they would call us elitists or something. But yes, it would spare us from a lot of contradictory and possible spoiler~ish talk. (And for heavens, I don't mean to spoil anyone. There are plenty of series where I didn't read the original source material and was spoilered by those who did, so I do understand the anime viewers' POV.)

On the other hand
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Bitching bitching bitching bitching


Play the damn game already before you criticize someone for being anxious, young girl.
 
Jul 9, 2009 2:35 AM

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Oh I found so much potential in this anime.It can easily become one of the best for the season.
 
Jul 9, 2009 2:35 AM

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Or the vn players should just talk about the anime. I played the vn too, but if an information like Kyrie's identity is not revealed it's a spoil even if we learn it in the beginning of the vn.

The episode was good, I was impressed by Jessica's yell.
 
Jul 9, 2009 2:39 AM

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Creepy Maria is creepy.

WTF I was expecting seeing the family getting killed 1 by 1 not a complete slaughter at the beginning. I don't know why they even bother put them in the OP.
Guess it's going to be a 12 episodes series.
 
Jul 9, 2009 2:46 AM

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hell that was insane. totally cool. didnt think it would develop so fast. and when maria got her ring i thought something will happen to her, and i was right T_T
wants to see next~~ but i really hope it wont be censored.


 
Jul 9, 2009 2:50 AM

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Oh boy, this nerdrage is delicious, but I didnt expect anything else.

I liked it very much and I think it was a good adaption, of course you cant capture every single detail of the VN because this show would need at least 100 eps that way.

Im just watching this to see my favourite scenes animated, thats all, I dont care if its not perfect, I have the VN for that :3


 
Jul 9, 2009 2:53 AM

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Holy shit. Killing off shannon and battlers mom. Im definitely more interested in this than Higurashi.
 
Jul 9, 2009 2:53 AM
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Seriously, create a topic where you can talk about VN, I don't want to read damn spoilers, if I wanted to know what will happen so bad I would play the game already.


Anyway, does anyone else think that Kanon is an asshole. Really, he spoke 2 times and he annoyed the hell out of me both times. Furniture? Go kill yourself, Kanon.

I wonder if Kinzo molested him when he was a kid or something.
 
Jul 9, 2009 2:56 AM

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Jure said:
Seriously, create a topic where you can talk about VN, I don't want to read damn spoilers, if I wanted to know what will happen so bad I would play the game already.


Anyway, does anyone else think that Kanon is an asshole. Really, he spoke 2 times and he annoyed the hell out of me both times. Furniture? Go kill yourself, Kanon.

I wonder if Kinzo molested him when he was a kid or something.


Kanon is love.
 
Jul 9, 2009 3:04 AM

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MarthX said:
Maybe for future episodes. Two threads should be created. One for the visual novel players and one for the anime only watchers.


Might be a good idea. Too much opposition from two completely different types of viewers. Just create a megathread or something for VN readers, and leave the people new to the series to these threads. I don't know though, this wouldn't be needed if people stopped complaining about eachother.
 
Jul 9, 2009 3:08 AM

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I also think the VN-people need to be a little bit more cautions.

The episode was good. Not much to complain about.

Only two points:
- 6 deaths already and we didn't get much to see of some of these 6 guys. I even have a hard time to remember which persons those 6 are. I mean Shanon and Battler's parents and the cook and Krause, but the 6th is not there in my mind, therefore it might have really been a bit too fast when a non-VN viewer can't even remember everyone that was killed after only 2 episodes.

- Battler's reaction seemed really unreal. I mean his parents were killed. A long time he did nothing and then he let out a scream that was not really convincing and kind of strange. Really, that reaction felt wrong. Totally forced.

On another note, I really hope there is an interesting plot, because right now judging from the text underneath the painting it seems like one after the other is getting killed until Bea emerges and has some interactions with Battler judging from the OP. I mean since you already know about more killings, that's kind of totally anticlimactic and boring. I hope there is some more to this show.
 
Jul 9, 2009 3:20 AM
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Wow, what a crazy episode. Definitely enjoying this show, and although I can't comment on what it's like compared to the VN (since I never played it), I must say that this is definitely some compelling stuff. 4/5.
 
Jul 9, 2009 3:26 AM
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Hybrid00 said:
Kanon is love.
Apparently, he is a furniture.
 
Jul 9, 2009 3:29 AM

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Forever said:
- 6 deaths already and we didn't get much to see of some of these 6 guys. I even have a hard time to remember which persons those 6 are. I mean Shanon and Battler's parents and the cook and Krause, but the 6th is not there in my mind, therefore it might have really been a bit too fast when a non-VN viewer can't even remember everyone that was killed after only 2 episodes.


*Krauss
The sixth one was Rosa.
 
Jul 9, 2009 3:34 AM

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Oresund said:


Hybrid00 said:
Kanon is love.


This. Kanon may seem a little annoying with this 'furniture' thing. But he needs loev too. :<


WAIT "HE", shit I was convinced he was a she till now D:

BTW the VA were translated to English? Where can I find them?
 
Jul 9, 2009 3:44 AM

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BTW the VA were translated to English? Where can I find them?


Here you go, the English patch. You need to have the original game, though.
 
Jul 9, 2009 4:00 AM

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Pretty nicely done. I was extremely concerned about how they were gonna censure the first twilight, but it seemed well done too me. Thing is iv'e been getting mixed up with scenes from ep 1, 2 and 3 so going through the events again is confusing me a bit.

I just read through the thread and i see no problem from the VN readers (me being one). There hasn't been a single spoiler. there is honestly no reason they would keep Kyrie's position and the name Ange a secret so it must have just been scenes they didn't have time for (which will make it hard on them when their gonna need to bring it up), hence no spoilers. And seeing how the BGM was one of the main points to the game it's a given that people who've played will want to bring it up. But i guess all it takes is 1 pissed off person bitching to tern the whole thread upside down -_-
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Jul 9, 2009 4:05 AM

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Forever said:
therefore it might have really been a bit too fast when a non-VN viewer can't even remember everyone that was killed after only 2 episodes.

I have to say that as a VN player, I didn't remember them at first either. But thank God the games have a list of the characters where the time and cause of death is stated. Unfortunately it's something you can't do in the anime ^^'

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- Battler's reaction seemed really unreal. I mean his parents were killed. A long time he did nothing and then he let out a scream that was not really convincing and kind of strange. Really, that reaction felt wrong. Totally forced.

My thoughts exactly, it was kind of forced :/ Jessica's reaction was much better.

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that's kind of totally anticlimactic and boring. I hope there is some more to this show.

Believe me my friend, there will be muwhahaha :D
 
Jul 9, 2009 4:32 AM

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Hybrid00 said:

Kanon is love.

Definitely. I don't think he's annoying (unlike Shanon and fanservice for guys -_-), somehow he resembles Ritsuka from Loveless... It's a pity that he has different seiyuu :<

Forever said:
- Battler's reaction seemed really unreal. I mean his parents were killed. A long time he did nothing and then he let out a scream that was not really convincing and kind of strange. Really, that reaction felt wrong. Totally forced.

I couldn't agree more.
 
Jul 9, 2009 4:36 AM

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confused_kitsune said:
The sixth one was Rosa.
Ah right. Maria's mother. Thanks for clearing that up.
Too bad. I have the feeling I will miss Rosa, Battler's mom and Shanon. They were kind of interesting.

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Jessica's reaction was much better.
Agreed. No complaints with her reaction.

SunyiNyufi said:
Believe me my friend, there will be muwhahaha :D
I will believe it for now. Only because it's you, though! ;P
 
Jul 9, 2009 5:06 AM

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Forever said:
SunyiNyufi said:
Believe me my friend, there will be muwhahaha :D
I will believe it for now. Only because it's you, though! ;P

I feel so special :D
 
Jul 9, 2009 5:13 AM

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I love the direction this series seems to be going. It's like an old murder mystery, mixed with Higurashi-style gore. I can't wait for more.
 
Jul 9, 2009 5:39 AM

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Hybrid00 said:
Kanon is love.


Yeah they made him pretty moé. I'm sure there will be hundreds of Kanon doujins later on for you fangirls to schlick to.

This was a huge improvement over the first episode in terms of pacing. I especially liked how they didn't completely pussy out on the murders.
 
Jul 9, 2009 6:10 AM

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far too rushed...
many good scenes that rushed like george-shannon scene, turn back the chessboard scene, beatrice gold scene and many more...

i'm a lil dissapointed, but the gore is good !! yeah !!
 
Jul 9, 2009 6:16 AM

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Jure said:
Anyway, does anyone else think that Kanon is an asshole. Really, he spoke 2 times and he annoyed the hell out of me both times. Furniture? Go kill yourself, Kanon.

He is a butler and that's why they're like furnitures. And god, Kanon is like the best character from the whole serie.

Aa, forgot to say this on my first post; the first half was kinda rushed, but the second half ... they really made it, thanks DEEN. And Inoue Marina as Jessica was great choice, that scream was perfect ~


 
Jul 9, 2009 6:19 AM

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Six deaths already.....
 
Jul 9, 2009 6:27 AM

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After the 2nd episode, this crap is officially dropped.
 
Jul 9, 2009 6:32 AM
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Jul 9, 2009 6:33 AM
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Still waiting for Battler and Kyrie


Couldn't tell that this is considered a spoiler.
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Jul 9, 2009 7:01 AM
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Sonja said:
He is a butler and that's why they're like furnitures.
I am telling you, that's exactly what I hate about him. Why would he be a furniture if he is a butler? It's not like he is a slave, damn it. He can always quit his job if he hates it that much.


I see people saying that this episode is rushed. I really don't see what's so rushed here, everything looks natural to me... well, except the fact that 6 people's faces got brutally violated.
 
Jul 9, 2009 7:08 AM
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Jure said:
Sonja said:
He is a butler and that's why they're like furnitures.
I am telling you, that's exactly what I hate about him. Why would he be a furniture if he is a butler? It's not like he is a slave, damn it. He can always quit his job if he hates it that much.


He is a slave in a sense. You'll learn more about him later, and will definitely grow onto you. Reasons why he is also explained later.

Kanon and Shannon has never really gotten out of Rokkenjima. Even his musical and culinary tastes and such are acquired from the Ushiromiya family, whom he isn't even related to.

Genji, Shannon, and Kanon are all furniture. Kumasawa and Gohda however, not really.


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Jul 9, 2009 7:36 AM

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That was a pretty violent episode. I just want to know how they're going to deal with killing off a third of the cast in a single episode.
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Jul 9, 2009 7:45 AM

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z2000 said:
Still waiting for [...] to be badass. Battler that should be in Episode [...] ... [...] that's a long ways til now.


Thanks for spoiling ... -.-

That why I said the VN people should be more careful.

She died this episode. Guess what your sentence means for an anime only viewer?
 
Jul 9, 2009 7:45 AM

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If something like the higurashi axe murder of 2007 happens with this... O.o

I can say only one thing. Nice boat!
 
Jul 9, 2009 7:47 AM
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Since I'm not familiar with the source material I thought this episode was pretty good and definitely above average. I have to agree on the rushed feeling though... the show moves really quickly and leaves a lot of the characters feeling shallow. It doesn't help when they kill off a third of the cast in a single episode... but I guess in typical "Higurashi" fashion things will be explained later on and given back story.
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Jul 9, 2009 8:23 AM
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Hmm, I seriously hope the epitaph will be read in its entirety somewhere in the beginning of the next episode. It would be a little too late (should have been done before anyone was killed), but would be better than nothing. The only reference they made to it was when, in episode I-I, Battler said "thirteen people would be dead by the eighth night" while nothing was mentioned about how six people would be killed in the first night.

Meh, we'll see how next episode pans out. Have to wait another week again >:^(.
 
Jul 9, 2009 8:24 AM

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that was a disturbing episode, loved it though <3
 
Jul 9, 2009 8:31 AM
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Wow what a amazing episode, I freaked out at the end and totally didn't expected this (I didn't wanted spoilers either so I never looked it up).
Can't wait for more this was really amazing, the only anime this season I really looked forward to.
 
Jul 9, 2009 8:34 AM

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seishi-sama said:
After the 2nd episode, this crap is officially dropped.
Yeah, nothing interesting so far. Hope Beatrice doesn't exist. Otherwise I will drop the series too.
 
Jul 9, 2009 8:54 AM

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Did anyone else notice that Maria was watch Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Kai?
:D

Awww :( At the end of the episode I felt so bad for Jessia, Battler and George X(

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Jul 9, 2009 8:59 AM

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aaaah! i want the the next episode now!
 
Jul 9, 2009 8:59 AM

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About this "Spoilers", some of the character dev. is already written on my anime list under characters.


By the way the 1. VN is for free and you can download it from 7th expansion.

And there is also a english patch for this "Demo" version. (Reading takes 3 Days).
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Jul 9, 2009 9:05 AM

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So... So...
I doesn't have played the game...
And i think it's show is ok... But not really good. ^^'
 
Jul 9, 2009 9:23 AM
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The animation already dropped, but apart from that... very good episode for sure, and a good ol' slaughtering taking place at the end !

Then, I guess I'll wait for the end of the season to catch on the game, since I purposedly didn't play it since they announced the anime (I consider the anime being more important to me than the game so I don't want to spoil the fun of watching it ;))...

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Jul 9, 2009 9:36 AM
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Oh already murder in the second episode ,nice, I'm starting to like this ^^

I can't wait to see Beatrice ,hope she appears in the next episode.
 
Jul 9, 2009 9:55 AM
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kill them all !
 
Jul 9, 2009 9:57 AM
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Did anyone else when they revealed the golden bar, instead of seeing the gold, expect to cut to Leopard (Sora wo Kakeru Shoujo) and his golden gun?

Good episode. I think I'm going to really enjoy this series. I'm very disappointed that the maid has been murdered off already (least it wasn't Kanon!), but I'm content with her answer.
 
Jul 9, 2009 10:09 AM

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After the 2nd episode, this crap is officially dropped.
Yeah, nothing interesting so far. Hope Beatrice doesn't exist. Otherwise I will drop the series too.

It has the same mess of a series composition as Higurashi. First, "question arcs", then "answer arcs", etc. So, basically, Beatrice could exist in one of the arcs, and couldn't in another...and they could add new arcs no matter what happened in the previous ones. It's an infinite milking cow.
 
Jul 9, 2009 10:10 AM

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fuck year rahu!

So why haven't they named Nanjou yet? Do they hate him? Do they consider him that unimportant?
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Who subbed this episode? =s
I didn't see it at CG or gg



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