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Dec 14, 2007 7:26 PM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Ookay, onto the second arc, featuring 'Brave Men's Road'.

Super duper awesome episode(excuse the outdated terms), the harmony of the music and the visuals,and the overall execution were beyond my expectation. Especially loved how they expressed the part where the rich bastards were screaming to push each other. ..se! ..se! OSE!! ..and Kaiji's eyes filling up with manly tears ;_;

As shown, this part of the arc is more focused on human psychology/Fukumoto philosophy than gambling strategies. For me I love and appreciate both views(the drama and the strategy); any other thoughts?
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Dec 14, 2007 8:44 PM

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triads also on fire :> nice ep. cliffhanger :<

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Dec 14, 2007 11:26 PM

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Extremely intense. This series hasn't cooled down even right from the get-go, true excellence.





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Dec 15, 2007 12:40 AM
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Pure awesomeness. Love how they portray the dark side of human nature. And the bg music is great. Amplifies the situations much.

But only 13 eps? Noooo I need moar Kaiji. T_T
 
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Dec 15, 2007 2:22 AM

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Good god, this episode is again so awesome.
 
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Dec 15, 2007 3:01 AM
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Yeah, great episodes, but where's the 13 coming from?

That only gives us two to go...


And they all should've taken off their shoes.
 
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Dec 15, 2007 3:10 AM

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mickal555 said:
Yeah, great episodes, but where's the 13 coming from?

That only gives us two to go...


Exactly, WTF??!
Awesome episode. And what a cliffhanger...as in Akagi at its BEST.
 
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Dec 15, 2007 3:40 AM

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ANN says there's 13 episode,so someone probably got it from there,however ANN isn't always right,for exemple it says there's 13 episodes of shugo chara but many people are sure there's at least 26 episodes,maybe even 52.
i was told for shugo chara:"ANN says 13 because their database seems to require a number of episodes. Once episode 14 airs, it'll probably switch to 26."

Maybe it's the samewith kaiji
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Dec 15, 2007 4:14 AM

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On the Madhouse website, Kaiji is supposed to be 26 episodes. I reject ANN's reality, and subsitute it with my own Madhouse's.

Anyway, this episode was unbelieveable. The intensity, visuals and style of the game was just pure win. Next episode preview looks very exciting too. Is Sahara going to win?!
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Dec 15, 2007 4:40 AM

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That was really intense to watch, such a cruel inhuman game. I love the look into the dark sides of human psyche. I loved that in Akagi as well. Ahh, and I feel sorry for our Kaiji. ;_;

I think the next episode preview might have given away too much (did Sahara win?), but we'll see.

According to the official anime website, the soundtrack will be released January 23. I will definitely get this one. Hopefully this will include full versions of the opening and ending songs.
 
Dec 15, 2007 4:45 AM

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I agree with everybody who is talking about the amazing use of the BGM in this show. Not only is the music fantastic and moody, but they always seem to use it in exact the right moments.

Anyway, this episode was intense and while this newest gamble obviously doesn't have the strategy of restricted rock, paper, and scissors; it is just as intense for obvious reasons.

Also, if you go to animesuki.com the show is listed as being 26 episodes. I certainly hope that is the case as 13 just isn't enough Kaiji!!!!! lol
 
Dec 15, 2007 5:45 AM
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Only 13 episodes? So this is the final arc? What a disappointment...
 
Dec 15, 2007 7:03 AM

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Kaiji is growing more psychological that i would ever imagine. Its freaking great! Yes i can risk to admit we have a spiritual sequel to Akagi. Simply rocks and cliffhangers are heart breaking.

Triad is On fire!

Now onto the episode. The BGM the flow of the game, the way they are transported to the game, they way it starts and sorts its simply perfect! I was :O when they said what the game was. At first when they were in the coffins i thought it would be something like The Cube (check imdb if you dont know what am i talking about). The game is simply cold-hearted...
 
Dec 15, 2007 7:19 AM

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Freaking awesome episode! I love the music in this series!
And Triad MORE then made up for their slowness of episode 9 ^^

This really showed what a bunch of corrupt beings humans can be. Using people as pieces in a game. I'm really curious about the masterminds behind all this.
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Dec 15, 2007 8:02 AM
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Great episode!
Maybe Sahara only survived but didn't win, we'll see!
 
Dec 15, 2007 8:20 AM

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I too hope that Kaiji is longer than 13 episodes.

I am liking this series more and more. Go Kaiji!

BTW when they are opening the container, I thought it is going to be 80 floor or higher on the building. If that's the case, I might really shout WTF out loud. But I guess 8/10 meters are more than enough to them. Not dead but cripple , damn the mastermind.
 
Dec 15, 2007 8:33 AM

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Please correct episodes.

From ANN

Number of episodes: 26
Episode titles: We have 13

Now we can rest in peace :p

On Topic: Kaiji wins picturing the underworld of bets and of Human Nature. Brrr Scary
 
Dec 15, 2007 9:58 AM

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Awesome episode, great suspense. Can't wait for the next one!
 
Dec 15, 2007 12:43 PM
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Please correct episodes.

From ANN

Number of episodes: 26
Episode titles: We have 13


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Dec 15, 2007 1:37 PM

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I love the different dynamics that this show presents to you. In the first arc it pit Kaiji against all the other debtors, so we grew to hate guys like Funai. However this arc makes me realize that all of these guys, yes even Funai, are just like Kaiji and are just trying to get themselves out of the dumps. You realize that somebody like Funai isn't such a jerk and was just doing what he had to do to get out of this hell..............I still hate Andou though!!!!

This show really delves deep into the darkness of the human personality due to the characters being put into situations where they are basically forced to bring out the worst in themselves.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and I have to point out the scene where Kaiji was being transported to the game in the coffin. This was one of the most tense scenes I have experienced in some time as I could feel the pure fear that Kaiji felt just pouring through the computer monitor that I was watching it on. The fact that they only showed inside the coffin and nothing outside of it made the scene just as tense for the viewer as it was for Kaiji. We had no idea where they were taking him. It was such a well done scene.
 
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Personally, I liked the way that the beams narrowed as it got farther along. Seemed metaphorical for the pressure of the Espoir-group gambles as a whole; it seems easy until you start playing, and then the traps come along. The danger here is definately more grisly than the other room, though.
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Dec 15, 2007 2:37 PM

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good episode!
the psychological aspect is totally different from the rock paper scissors one....

intense!
 
Dec 15, 2007 3:58 PM

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mickal555 said:

And they all should've taken off their shoes.

exactly what i was thinking when i saw this...lol

but this was an outstanding episode and it started out alot better than the first arc did
 
Dec 15, 2007 4:38 PM

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I would've taken off my shoes and thrown it 1. at the guy in front of me or 2. those a**holes at the bottom laughing when someone falls. Great start to a new arc. Agree with Kaiji, don't even bother saying sorry if you're just gonna push them anyway.
 
Dec 15, 2007 7:35 PM

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DigimonTamer said:
I love the different dynamics that this show presents to you. In the first arc it pit Kaiji against all the other debtors, so we grew to hate guys like Funai. However this arc makes me realize that all of these guys, yes even Funai, are just like Kaiji and are just trying to get themselves out of the dumps. You realize that somebody like Funai isn't such a jerk and was just doing what he had to do to get out of this hell..............


Funai was repeater though, and one that I doubt was in the dumps...
 
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bigjig said:
DigimonTamer said:
I love the different dynamics that this show presents to you. In the first arc it pit Kaiji against all the other debtors, so we grew to hate guys like Funai. However this arc makes me realize that all of these guys, yes even Funai, are just like Kaiji and are just trying to get themselves out of the dumps. You realize that somebody like Funai isn't such a jerk and was just doing what he had to do to get out of this hell..............


Funai was repeater though, and one that I doubt was in the dumps...


Wouldn't Kaiji also be considered a repeater now though since he is doing another gambling game? I'm pretty sure Funai isn't much better off than Kaiji if he was on the boat to begin with.
 
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I gotta say, this is the episode that made me think that Kaiji could potentially be a better anime series than Akagi. I mean, Akagi was awesome, but no episode of Akagi made me sit on the edge of my seat as much as this episode of Kaiji did. You can actually sympathize with Kaiji's dilemma, whereas Akagi was in a league of his own and you could never see yourself in his shoes. I can't wait to watch the next episode to see if Kaiji decides to push his opponents or if he finds another way to survive.
 
Dec 18, 2007 6:44 AM
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5 out of 5: Loved it!

One of the best thrilling episode!!!
 
Dec 18, 2007 2:13 PM

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I'm saving the second arc for some quality New Year's watching. Should have 3 or 4 episodes waiting for me.

Wonderful.
 
Dec 18, 2007 4:32 PM

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DigimonTamer said:
bigjig said:
DigimonTamer said:
I love the different dynamics that this show presents to you. In the first arc it pit Kaiji against all the other debtors, so we grew to hate guys like Funai. However this arc makes me realize that all of these guys, yes even Funai, are just like Kaiji and are just trying to get themselves out of the dumps. You realize that somebody like Funai isn't such a jerk and was just doing what he had to do to get out of this hell..............


Funai was repeater though, and one that I doubt was in the dumps...


Wouldn't Kaiji also be considered a repeater now though since he is doing another gambling game? I'm pretty sure Funai isn't much better off than Kaiji if he was on the boat to begin with.


Funai was a repeater on the boat because he had done the restricted rock, paper scissors game before, i.e he knew what game they would be playing before he got on (whereas the others, like kaiji weren't told what gamble it was, placing them at a disadvantage).

Kaiji is gambling again, but he isn't a repeater because he didn't know what type of gamble they would be doing (i.e even though he went on the boat he has no great advantage over the others)
 
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Aside from general wariness towards the hosts and his fellow gamblers, maybe.
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Dec 21, 2007 12:15 PM

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That was an exciting episode! i loved it! i was getting sooo bored with the last two eps. It started to get painfull to watch cause it was so dull and all they did was scream - _-
But this ep was really awesome!
Makes you wonder what the person who wrote the story is like cause... thats some sick games he invented DX


 
Dec 23, 2007 11:12 AM

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Makes you wonder what the person who wrote the story is like cause... thats some sick games he invented DX

If you think that's bad, you haven't seen Akagi, another series by the same author. That one has a pretty twisted game at the end of the series, too.
 
Dec 25, 2007 2:14 AM

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The Triad has dropped Kaiji, so we probably won't be getting ep 12 for a longer while, seeing how there's no other group subbing it at the moment :(
 
Dec 25, 2007 2:59 AM

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I think this is just their way of saying Merry Christmas, we won't be doing any updates.
And if they manage to ruin a few Christmases while their at it, hey all the better.
 
Dec 25, 2007 3:10 AM
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I think this is just their way of saying Merry Christmas, we won't be doing any updates.
And if they manage to ruin a few Christmases while their at it, hey all the better.

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Lmao. xxD

Looking forward to more. :>

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Dec 25, 2007 5:14 AM

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Eh? EH? Loli? Where!?

Well, I can wait. Everyone needs to take an X'mas break.
 
Dec 25, 2007 5:18 AM

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I seriously doubt that triad actually dropped Kaiji. Seems more like a Dattebayo-ryu troll. It's cool with me, let 'em have their holiday fun.
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Dec 26, 2007 10:07 PM

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Yup, the triad was just messing with us as usual, Kaiji 12 is out already. I'd have already downloaded it if I had time to watch it =/
 
Mar 25, 2008 1:45 PM

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I just love this anime! Things are getting so intense now :D
Btw, where is the old man (the one Kaiji helped on the Espoir)? He was on Kaiji's group wasn't he? =S
 
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This series show the true human nature.
 
Apr 28, 2009 1:44 PM

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damn i wouldn't care i ll just push him
 
May 2, 2009 5:26 AM

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There's just no let up with the tension and suspense and all the other strong feelings you get while watching a show like this. A nice new game that shows human beings at their best. Or worst. I just love the atmosphere of this series!
 
May 23, 2009 2:10 AM
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My God, this show owns.
 
Oct 17, 2009 9:51 AM

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Push or not to push there is the question?

Man this is horrible, this game is bringing the worse in people!
 
Dec 13, 2009 4:31 PM

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Wow... I sure as hell didn't expect a game like that. Great episode.
 
Dec 20, 2009 2:41 PM
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God's beautiful creation....
 
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Best episode ive seen so far its 9/10 if it goes like this the whole series
 
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That's just insane.

Will Kaiji kill his opponent?
 
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