Higurashi When They Cry: Dice Killing Arc
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KatsukiJun 12, 2009 3:46 AM
| I can't find episode 4, can someone please post link? |
| Bern-chan is finally mentioned :D |
| Good episode, she woke up like nothing happend in that accident but that world was just a dream that Hanyuu was creating. In the previews I saw they playing Mahjong and and the next OVA on DVD is going to release 21 august. So long time. |
BlackbirdJun 12, 2009 2:44 PM
Nothing ventured, nothing gained (Girls und Panzer der Film ) / from Nishizumi Miho |
| where can i get episode 4??? please tell me..!! |
The only thing that burns in Hell is the part of you that won't let go of your life, your memories, your attachments. They burn them all away. But they're not punishing you. They're freeing your soul. So, if you're frightened of dying and you're holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away. But if you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels, freeing you from the earth./B.J.Rubin |
| Awwww, Frederika was mentioned ~ ♥ yeye ~ Overall this episode was pretty nice. Though I'm gonna re-watch this after the subs are out so I can understand every line 8------D |
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| While this episode was pretty nice, it probably won't have the intended effect since episode 3 was so rushed. And why mentioning Bernkastel without any explanation at all? I cry because of DEEN... |
| Just watched the raw, got the gist of most of the stuff. Seemed like a big fat anticlimax to me, but perhaps I'll understand more in detail of the large amount of dialogue once it's subbed. |
| I just watched the raw, can't wait for subs! If anyone understood...What exactly did Rika say when referring to Bernkastel? |
sarroush said: I just watched the raw, can't wait for subs! If anyone understood...What exactly did Rika say when referring to Bernkastel? Only thing I comprehended was "Ima koso Bernkastel" xD Which I think it's like, "I'm now Bernkastel" |
| I've just watched it twice, so I could understand a good part of it. About Bernkastel, she said: "Watashi wa majou nado mo yamette shimau wa nakute wa naranai. Ima koso Bernkastel no majou de wa nakute Furude Rika ni modore nakute wa." With my dictionary's help and my little knowledge of Japanese, I THOUGHT I could translate it, but I couldn't ;-;. So I asked my friend and he said it would mean something like: "I'm a witch who lost her powers / I'm a witch who cannot act [he's not sure wich of them because of that "shimau"]. The Witch Bernkastel cannot turn into Furude Rika anymore." I think it means something more, but for now we may have a great idea of what she wanted to say ;) And now we can say "Come, Umineko no Naku Koro ni!", right? |
Yuuh said: I've just watched it twice, so I could understand a good part of it. About Bernkastel, she said: "Watashi wa majou nado mo yamette shimau wa nakute wa naranai. Ima koso Bernkastel no majou de wa nakute Furude Rika ni modore nakute wa." With my dictionary's help and my little knowledge of Japanese, I THOUGHT I could translate it, but I couldn't ;-;. So I asked my friend and he said it would mean something like: "I'm a witch who lost her powers / I'm a witch who cannot act [he's not sure wich of them because of that "shimau"]. The Witch Bernkastel cannot turn into Furude Rika anymore." I think it means something more, but for now we may have a great idea of what she wanted to say ;) And now we can say "Come, Umineko no Naku Koro ni!", right? Thanks! =D And yep! Umineko! =D I'ma start watching it when it comes out! |
| well, i watched it in korean subs, and translated Rika said when she woke up, I should stop being the witch Bernkastel and go back to being Furude Rika... anywy i hope umineko follows the original game better than higurashi... |
Sabato said: well, i watched it in korean subs, and translated Rika said when she woke up, I should stop being the witch Bernkastel and go back to being Furude Rika... anywy i hope umineko follows the original game better than higurashi... Looking at the sentence, it's also a translation, even though it wouldn't make sense for some motive IMO. Let's wait for another sub to come with its translation so we can see what it really means. And yeah, so do I. Umineko must keep as it is. |
| Awesome episode, cant wait for subs. Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Rei - Raw |
| but but but everyone was so happy *sniffle* Why did that "dream" have to end. "Bernkastel"? |
HawthorneKittyJun 26, 2009 9:19 PM
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| I liked this episode. I thought it was a really brave choice to go for an actionless, line-heavy episode after all the build up from episode 3. The witch comment was strange to me, but besides that, really awesome. |
| As a non-VN player, I like the end of this arc. I'm quite sure the sinless world was real and that Hanyuu just didn't want Rika to feel guilty for what happened. I bet Rika finally mentioning "Bernkastel" out of the blue was a ploy to reel in Higurashi fans into Umineko starting in a couple of days. Almost time to say, goodbye Hinamizawa, HELLO Rokkenjima! ;D |
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| I thought dream-endings are forbidden? Isn't that already in the Constitution and the Geneva Conventions as well as in the Bible? "Thou shalt not have an "it was all a dream" ending." Oh well, at least it was good, it could have turned out a lot worse. |
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| renas explaining was pretty cool. the compare between a flower and a human. a really deep ep, you shall not wish for a world which doesnt exist, and be happy about the happiness you gain in this world, is what i understood. so next one is finally the last ep, doesnt looks too serious for me so its probably a joke ep. |
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| Ublah~ A dream? Oh well, I didn't like that world anyways D; |
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| The Episode was full of dialogues XD But I love the Ending. The Preview is .. strange o_o Aren't there some "Mad Rena" eyes? |
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Spade said: I thought dream-endings are forbidden? Isn't that already in the Constitution and the Geneva Conventions as well as in the Bible? "Thou shalt not have an "it was all a dream" ending." Oh well, at least it was good, it could have turned out a lot worse. But it technically was a dream since Hanyuu herself said that she created that dream-world for Rika |
| lol i dont mind the "Dream Ending" it was nice, i loved the dialogue. I love Higurashi Day Break the PSP game! lol its kinda awesome that they're making an episode about it! woot, can't wait to watch it.. Though..i feel like this is the end for Higurashi, i'm going to miss it T.T |
| it wasn't a dream, tho. hanyuu just seemed to tell her that to reassure her. |
tentacle_raepJun 27, 2009 10:20 AM
| in your nostromo. eating your crew. |
| I thought it was great! :) It makes me sad though as you can feel is nearly ending. |
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tentacle_raep said: it wasn't a dream, tho. hanyuu just seemed to tell her that to reassure her. Rewatch the last part, please. Hanyuu explained it in detail and it was a dream. |
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| Dream ending? I feel like I was lied to. *sob* It was nice to see Ouka (and a Bernkastel reference) though. (: |
| Ehm.. Talk about anticlimatic episode. These OVA episodes have been a real disappoint to me and have done nothing but bore me. I don't know, maybe it's because I haven't read the manga or played the VN or whatever. |
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| Bah, disappointing episode. I expected a lot of blood. But no, I didn't get even tiny bit. Anyway, this Rei OVA doesn't live up to all hype that original series earned. But still I'm being a Higurashi tard and will give to this OVA 8/10. Next episode is just random, so I'm rating from early. Lol, I'm already planning to rewatch Higurashi two seasons. |
| Well, Rika did admit she is the "Witch of Bernkastel" Sonja said: Awwww, Frederika was mentioned ~ ♥ yeye ~ Overall this episode was pretty nice. Though I'm gonna re-watch this after the subs are out so I can understand every line 8------D |
| Sore wa himitsu desu. |
| I'm a bit confused xD was it really a dream? Or was it a dream because Rika choose her original world, and since she's human and can't imagine both worlds the other one was a dream? o.0 did that make sense.. that's what I got from it xD.. |
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| For a "it was all a dream" ending, this episode was pretty good, and ;lajkdfl;sd Bernkastel! Good job in getting me psyched again for Umineko in a few days. |
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| wow that was fast, but i think it was good just one more to go |
| Being a fan is like having a penis. Its nice to be proud of it But don't pull it out in public and wave it in other's faces Kyurem Black. Kyurem White. Together they are Pretty Kyurem. |
AntiDentite said: Some of you guys are really misunderstanding the ending. The whole dream thing was Hanyuu's way of dismissing Rika's guilt, and telling her to live as a human, and to stop concerning herself with the alternate worlds. It was as much a dream as any of the other worlds we've seen. So all the other worlds were just Hanyuu punishing Rika as well? Cause sheesh, for there to be 100 years of punishment, I just gotta wonder what Rika did to deserve that, other than getting sliced and diced by Takano a billion times. Dallas ending was meh. How can it be a Higurashi arc if nobody dies? |
Spade said: I did.tentacle_raep said: it wasn't a dream, tho. hanyuu just seemed to tell her that to reassure her. Rewatch the last part, please. Hanyuu explained it in detail and it was a dream. Unless the fansubbers screwed it up, it didn't seem to be that way. |
| in your nostromo. eating your crew. |
| It's a dream because as a human she can't properly conceive two separate realities. That was the whole reason behind Hanyu's dismissal, Rena's flower metaphor, and Rika's closing of the episode. They were very explicit in getting that point across since they spent the whole half of the episode discussing it. Fansubbers didn't screw it up. I think they did a good job. |
| Ah, one more episode left. Mahjong? |
noteDhero said: It's a dream because as a human she can't properly conceive two separate realities. That was the whole reason behind Hanyu's dismissal, Rena's flower metaphor, and Rika's closing of the episode. They were very explicit in getting that point across since they spent the whole half of the episode discussing it. Fansubbers didn't screw it up. I think they did a good job. That point was all fine and well until Hanyuu went and ruined it by saying that she fabricated that world as punishment for Rika. |
| Ahh, I just remembered that part. Now I'm fuzzy as to what happened, but wasn't Rika still harping on trying to wrap her mind around it all? I assumed that Hanyuu was saying this to try to ease her mind, take the blame away from Rika, and place it on herself. Something more concrete that Rika can understand. Either way, I do think that that world was a punishment for Rika (who carelessly threw her life away in the second episode) to get her to understand the gravity of her life and realize how hard she had worked to get to that point. |
| I really didn't enjoy this episode. Higurashi doesn't have to go the buckets of blood route for me to be happy, but an episode of almost pure exposition is just poor writing, especially as a finale. These feelings and meanings to the worlds should have become apparent from Rika's experience, not just been talked into neat little packages by Hanyuu and Rena's respective speeches. Show don't tell, you know? Hanyuu's past and the sudden Bernkastel mention are almost interesting, but they're just too isolated. They have almost no meaning to someone like me who's stuck to the anime, and clearly aren't going to receive any further development this season. Seems like a rather artless appeal to the fans of the outside material, but that's probably me being cynical. Next episode looks rather fun, at least. I'd look forward to it, but I'm probably better off forgetting about it for now with the wait as long as it is. |
| But Rika had already been world-hopping for 100 fricking years. She should perfectly understand the disconnect between the worlds. It made no sense. |
| She never needed to understand the disconnect because to her it was one shitty world to the next. She clearly never considered her place in one world to another because it was all the same to her. You forget just how taken aback she was with all of the differences in that world. There were always a few variables, but much of the plot points were the same. So of course when she is confronted with the choice between a seemingly perfect world from the get go and a world that took hard work to get to a good place, she needed to consider (for the first time) her and Hanyuu's place in the whole thing. |
noteDheroJun 28, 2009 10:45 PM
| I can absolutely understand her choice regarding her own feelings. But don't you remember when she was back with Keiichi & gang, and she explained the "perfect" world, she behaved like she had wronged them by robbing them of the sinless life they had and re-burdened them once more, which is just retarded, since the Hinamizawa and its people in the perfect world is completely isolated from that of the world where Rika and gang fought so hard to attain. And that whole feeling of Rika's regret is something I just can't comprehend. |
| Hmm... I dunno why, but I had a feeling that Hanyuu's daughter may be Bernkastel. Haven't played Umineko, so I don't know very much about her. I really liked this episode. Found it very meaningful, and Rika learned a lot. |
 Znips: When Shay is born she just crawls back in the womb to shitpost for another year |
| Ohh Higurashi I love youuuu <3 This was nice. Rena had some deep words, Rika and the whole world choosing was amazing. I don't mind the lack of blood although that would've been the Higurashi I came to love and fear, but overall I've enjoyed this OVA and I can't wait for the next silly one it seems. |
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