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| THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- I... I don't even know what to say. Stunning chapter and well worth the wait. Filled with emotions too, but... I wonder how it will go from here? My Japanese knowledge is not enough to write a very detailed summary. I'm not even sure if what I understood is actually correct, hence why I'm refraining from writing about that here. |
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| i wonder if the manga is coming to a close, i hope not. i want it to expound more during the time skip and just basically more Nakamura. Her long absence makes this manga bland imo. edit: finally read the translated material and i got to say it was an amazing chapter. |
putosikwateFeb 9, 2014 8:16 PM
| Quite anti-climatic. Didn't expect the whole situation to turn out like this. |
| I really hope Kasuga and Tokiwa have a happy ending together. |
| I must say, those are some body language there.. I have little clue what just happened there also at the end. Oh well, at least it didn't turn into complete shit despite being sucker punched. |
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putosikwate said: i wonder if the manga is coming to a close, i hope not. i want it to expound more during the time skip and just basically more Nakamura. Her long absence makes this manga bland imo. edit: finally read the translated material and i got to say it was an amazing chapter. Yeah, I get the feeling it might end soon as well. Kind of sad, but I just hope that we get to learn more about Nakamura soon and why she always acted out. |
| Glad to see more action coming in, been too long |
| Really odd chapter _ I didn't quite expect a fight on the beach. |
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| Noo, will this be another manga after Oyasumi Punpun which will get "happy ending"... it would be disappointing. |
| I like the chapter and seeing Nakamura having fun in her own way was good.. But kasuga and aya will stay together |
Titanz25Feb 10, 2014 5:40 AM
Mrdoctorsr said: Jovy said: Yoostis said: Someone needs to hurry help and give a summary on what was happening!! That was an awesome chapter :) fmcotaku said: What does Nakamura says in page 11 (or 10 depending if you count that kind of preview page)?? She's saying something along the lines of "By doing things like that, everyone chose the path they would walk". Wait wait wait. What does Tokiwa mean by saying "you have a potential future of being with Kasuga". Do you think she means romantically or as a friend? If romantically... I dont even... It's just Aya being emotional which is understandable in her case..She sees the one she loves with another girl who he had a past with and a part of her thinks Kasuga will leave her so she let her emotions overcome her To be honest I really doubt Kasuga will leave Aya.. Nakamura is just a special friend to him |
| Well that was kinda...stupid. I don't even know why I keep reading this manga |
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| Yea... I don't know what to think anymore. Originally, I wanted another train wreck. I couldn't wait for Nakamura to reemerge and f' things up. But now, I don't know... Seeing them brawl on the beach while laughing was kind of funny. It seemed like they realized they were too old for this and found humor in how ridiculous they were acting. That's just my take. I don't know if that's what Oshimi Shuzo intended. Maybe next month we'll get some answers. If the story ends on a happy note, I hope we get some insight into why Nakamura was such a sociopath in the beginning. If Punpun can have a pseudo-happy ending, surely Aku no Hana can. |
atomic_dawgFeb 10, 2014 10:10 PM
| i kinda find this chapter good, but nakamura seems to be sad deep inside.. that takao is dating someone. . .hope nakamura don't go odd ball again...well that's what she's about, being odd..hehehe |
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| Am I really the only one that liked this chapter? @_@ I loved how Takao just started throwing Nakamura on the ground "wtf" and then she punches the shit out of him!! LoL way to much fun, plus Aya's reaction at first was sooo funny ^.^ I have one question though… why can't Nakamura remember anything? is it cos she doesn't wanna tell Takao what she really feels/thinks, maybe Aya being there she doesn't want to say the truth or maybe she's on some kind of medical treatment that helped her stay calm or forget? Also she tells Takao that he's a normal person now (not a deviant) so will Takao try and do some crazy effed up thing to show her that he can be a big O deviant again? |
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fr3ddyv3ga said: That thought definitely crossed my mind. Nakamura seems a little spacey and aloof like she's on meds....or maybe she's on some kind of medical treatment that helped her stay calm or forget? fr3ddyv3ga said: I was wondering the same thing when I read the translation on MFox. I thought, "OK... here we go. Kasuga is going to show Nakamura just how bat sheet crazy normal he can be." However, the translation may have left something out. According to Jovy's summary, the conversation goes like this: "It's nighttime, and they're just chilling on the beach. Nakamura says "Kasuga.. don't ever come here again, you normal human". Kasuga replies with "Thank you"." So if he did say "thank you", I think that implies he's cool with being normal.Also she tells Takao that he's a normal person now (not a deviant) so will Takao try and do some crazy effed up thing to show her that he can be a big O deviant again? |
atomic_dawg said: fr3ddyv3ga said: That thought definitely crossed my mind. Nakamura seems a little spacey and aloof like she's on meds....or maybe she's on some kind of medical treatment that helped her stay calm or forget? fr3ddyv3ga said: I was wondering the same thing when I read the translation on MFox. I thought, "OK... here we go. Kasuga is going to show Nakamura just how bat sheet crazy normal he can be." However, the translation may have left something out. According to Jovy's summary, the conversation goes like this: "It's nighttime, and they're just chilling on the beach. Nakamura says "Kasuga.. don't ever come here again, you normal human". Kasuga replies with "Thank you"." So if he did say "thank you", I think that implies he's cool with being normal.Also she tells Takao that he's a normal person now (not a deviant) so will Takao try and do some crazy effed up thing to show her that he can be a big O deviant again? ^oh okay that clears that up * srry the translated scans I read didnt have Takao saying "thank you" odd right...shrugs* and I think she has to be on something to make her so much like a totally different person... cos Takao has changed ,but not that much, not like Nakamura is now and I dont think Saeki was different at all.. so how can Nakamura be so different? can it be cos of her mother or drugs maybe? I'm goin with drugs imo |
| Don't you wanna hang out and waste your life with us? -Spike Spiegel- |
| Was sure he was gonna go berserk again once he meets her LOL. |
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| I loved this chapter!! Aku no Hana is just too good. Cant wait to get more chapters! Nakmura seemed so broken. like she had just given up. really wanna find out what happened to her. But i think kasuga should stay with aya. Nakamura needs to pick up the peices herself. |
| "When you walk in a dream but you know you're not dreaming Signore Scuzza me, but you see, back in old Napoli that's amore" |
alexpte said: Takao better not choose Sawa in the end, I actually prefer Aya over her I agree. It's exciting to see Kasuga and Nakamura together, but it's a self-destructive relationship that eventually will get the best of them. |
loki_16 said: I really hope Kasuga and Tokiwa have a happy ending together. This would be my perfect ending. If the manga ends soon with them together I would be happy. |
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ninjaclone09 said: Wind_Sr said: loki_16 said: I really hope Kasuga and Tokiwa have a happy ending together. This would be my perfect ending. If the manga ends soon with them together I would be happy. why would anyone want a happy ending? I dont get it, the whole appeal of the manga is MC fucking his life up more and more. a happy ending wouldnt feel right, considering how dark the manga has been up until now If you actually think that's what this manga has been about then read again.. This manga hasn't been dark since the time skip and you actually want to see Kasuga throw away his development and fuck up more? Rather than getting better and actually throwing away that bullcrap philosophy Nakamura implanted in his head? Sorry but I like it when my characters progress instead of saying the same especially since his past self was a weak willed kid who got dominated by women |
TheGrandSage23 said: ninjaclone09 said: Wind_Sr said: loki_16 said: I really hope Kasuga and Tokiwa have a happy ending together. This would be my perfect ending. If the manga ends soon with them together I would be happy. why would anyone want a happy ending? I dont get it, the whole appeal of the manga is MC fucking his life up more and more. a happy ending wouldnt feel right, considering how dark the manga has been up until now If you actually think that's what this manga has been about then read again.. This manga hasn't been dark since the time skip and you actually want to see Kasuga throw away his development and fuck up more? Rather than getting better and actually throwing away that bullcrap philosophy Nakamura implanted in his head? Sorry but I like it when my characters progress instead of saying the same especially since his past self was a weak willed kid who got dominated by women Agree 100% with TGS23 |
| "When you walk in a dream but you know you're not dreaming Signore Scuzza me, but you see, back in old Napoli that's amore" |
| I have too agree with GrandSage23, I like Aku no Hana even more after the time skip... cos Takao feels more like his own person not just running around doing what Nakamura told him to do. He has made better choices on his own then with Nakamura's help, and about Aya she said that meeting Sawa reminded her of how she used to be.... so maybe we'll get her back story? Like how Kasuga told her his past she might open up and talk about her past... could that change their relationship or even make it stronger? I really think that from now on the plot will focus on Takao and Aya, cos he hasn't read her novel yet and meeting Nakamura again only felt like both Takao and Nakamura have changed to much to just bring them right back *emotionally* to before the time skip |
| Don't you wanna hang out and waste your life with us? -Spike Spiegel- |
| People think this is going to end soon? Is there any evidence of this? I felt the exact opposite when reading this chapter. I think this because of Takao's behavior in this chapter, as fr3ddy pointed out. |
| Wow... this series kind of resonates with me in a way that it's not too ridiculous, but it's ridiculous! These 2 are very human... No matter how much they pretend to deviate... I have no idea what to think but that was fun... Though at this point, I wouldn't read this manga anymore until the very end... I hope Tokiwa goes out with Kasuga, the healing process is over. |
| "Justice Never Dies!" - Kenji Endou, 20th century Boys |
| Wow so much emotion through actions in this chapter! |
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| Yeah I can see why people want more drama, but I think that part of the manga is pretty much over and done (in fact this manga seems pretty much over and done). It's not really good to resort to regression of the main character, because then it's just being repetitive and makes any development seem worthless. Anyway this chapter. If anyone's curious at the throwing, and punch out scene it's more like Kasuga is saying "Look Nakamura, I'm still weird, I'm still chaotic, will you talk to me now?" In which case Nakamura enjoyed his antics but realized it's time to put a stop to them because at the end of the day, they are just both normal people. |
hyperknees91Feb 20, 2014 9:07 AM
| lawl don't remind me of KNIM, I'm just going to forget that manga now haha. Yeah I dunno what the author has to do left. He certainly could do a little more, but nothing as drastic as he did in the first arc as there really is no reason for it anymore. Kasuga has a girl who is willing to understand him, he's more grown up, and his view on the world is changing. Not saying it's impossible for him to go crazy again, but I think this little struggle at the end has kind of proven that that time in his life is mostly over. I guess Nakamura could possibly do one last stand at some point, but really I'd rather get into why she is so crazy then her doing more crazy things. |
| This chapter was kinda crappy. I don't even... Misiakk said: Noo, will this be another manga after Oyasumi Punpun which will get "happy ending"... it would be disappointing. Oyasumi Punpun a happy ending? Really? |
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Spider-titan55 said: hyperknees91 said: lawl don't remind me of KNIM, I'm just going to forget that manga now haha. Yeah I dunno what the author has to do left. He certainly could do a little more, but nothing as drastic as he did in the first arc as there really is no reason for it anymore. Kasuga has a girl who is willing to understand him, he's more grown up, and his view on the world is changing. Not saying it's impossible for him to go crazy again, but I think this little struggle at the end has kind of proven that that time in his life is mostly over. I guess Nakamura could possibly do one last stand at some point, but really I'd rather get into why she is so crazy then her doing more crazy things. yeah, it seems like kasuga is maturing and looking at how the world works. you know, unlike someone *cough* Haruto *cough* i wonder if kasuga and towika will have sex for real in the next few chapters. as for nakamura, i guess the author was just inspired by the joker as both turned their partners mentally insane, both a clever, crazy, and unpredictable, and both have a secret origin. whatever nakamura's reasons for acting the way she did back in middle school is left to a mystery. i always thought it was her mother since her father mention ed that she's just like her mother which i can relate because my mother is somewhat bipolar and she acts immature for a 51 year old but we pretty much handled her I don't know if this manga will bother having a sex scene anymore as it's not really relevant (it's not a romance manga). The other sex scene was meaningful to the other girls character so yeah. |
| That was sort of unexpected. |
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nadasho said: Yeah, it's kind of odd to see them playing at the beach. And Tokiwa seems to be out of place. When Nakamura asked if Kasuga was going out with her, I was hoping for him to say "no". Anyway, I wish Kasuga had brought Saeki instead of Tokiwa. It'd be much more interesting. The last scene was ... amg. Really curious about the next chapter. wew, the translated ver that I read didn't have Kasuga saying thank you. ._. Tokiwa>Saeki |
| What the heck just happened? Suddenly they are playing with each other smiling. |
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| Great chapter, thought it would turn violent. |
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| Reading this while listening to Hana ga Saita yo was just incredible, the feelings of everything that happened between Nakamura and Kasuga just overflowed. I think the fight between them was a catalyst to finally let out all of the feelings of the past and finally move on. I see they've brought up the idea of the sky and what's beyond the horizon again. It's so depressing seeing Nakamura though, because it seems like she's just completely and utterly defeated by life now. |
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| I expected something different, but the feelings were overwhelming in many ways. It's immensely sad too. Nakamura looks at peace, but if feels like a false peace. I don't know if its based on medication, psychological treatment or just the total isolation of the place she's in. It feels that she's scarred for life in a way that Kasuga might not be (we've yet to see). |
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