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May 23, 2009 7:06 AM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Awesome Episode!!!! So emotional and intense...and, Camille's back in space!! Hopefully that means we'll get to see some more Char for a change...Urahara Out!!
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Oct 16, 2009 7:17 PM

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Great episode, I have no idea where this is going though...which is good.
 
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Jan 3, 2010 2:21 AM

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well they got the booster they needed, and hes up in space; too bad for 4
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Aug 1, 2010 8:42 AM

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So Four ended up sacrificing herself to get Kamille a chance to go to space.... Great episode was this, quite intense but I feel sorry for Four~
But for God's sake, Beltorchika is really pissing me off now, she is so selfish~ She needs to get slapped~
 
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Aug 16, 2010 12:22 AM

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...What the hell?
So Fours dead?

I don't believe it.
 
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Jan 7, 2011 9:29 AM

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Four... ='[
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Jan 14, 2011 8:09 AM
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I hope Four didn't die. She's a great character!
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Nov 19, 2011 7:08 PM

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I didn't expect Four to die so soon *_* and by sacrificing herself? That's so much like what happened with Lalah

Loving the show more and more with each episode
but the war strategies aren't very well explained like in Gundam79 ne?
 
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Dec 12, 2011 10:05 PM

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That's some seriously wasted potential if Four just died like that. But, I find it doubtful, considering how much she is on promotional materials and all.
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Oct 30, 2012 9:28 PM
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That's some seriously wasted potential if Four just died like that. But, I find it doubtful, considering how much she is on promotional materials and all.

Well, Lalah was also in a lot of promotional materials and even in the cover of the series, and look how she ended up.
 
May 14, 2013 5:58 PM

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Can Beltorchika get any more annoying? What a waste of a cute face.
 
May 16, 2013 4:14 PM

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Oh man. When I saw Bright at the end there:


Char will be back soon, I just know it! I can't wait for more Lieutenant Quattro.

:s I knew Four was condemned to death whenever she and Kamille started that frontline romance stuff. Oh, Gundam. I found her to be an interesting character most of the time, too, unlike most random characters who are introduced and die within an episode or two. D: I hope she didn't die somehow, but it isn't likely.
 
Nov 4, 2013 7:31 PM

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Nooo Four died

Can someone shoot Irma? She is really annoying.
 
Feb 3, 2014 12:43 AM

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Beltorchika is so damn unreasonable.
 
Feb 14, 2014 10:15 PM

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Not surprised Four ended up dead. She was starting to become a good female character and you know we can't have that.

Beltorchika... ugh. I'm hoping they throw her out into the ocean so we don't have to listen to her anymore. I never thought there would be something who is more whiny than Kamille.

Since Amuro is stuck on Earth, I'm guessing we won't see him again until it's all over? That'll suck since he barely did anything worthwhile. And what's with the fights in Zeta? They're so toned down from 0079.
 
Mar 29, 2014 10:28 AM

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I thought it was a great episode

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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

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Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

 
Jul 4, 2014 10:33 PM

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Another amazing episode!!

Oh come on Beltorchika!! I thought Mirai already gave you advice by stop acting like a babysister?!?! Kinda funny how she mentions she's not a babysister of Kamille yet she's okay being by Amuro.

Those Earth Federation are crazy for trying to ram it to Audhamla.

Kamille vs Four!! To be honest i don't even know why Kamille shared his past to Four? Maybe she can have a piece of his past as well?? But i was surprise when she pulled a gun on him O__O Pretty crazy!!

So Kamille made it to space!!! I really doubt Four died since they didn't made it dramatic like Lalah and Amuro's talking in space.

But if she's dead then RIP T__T

Finally Bright and Emma!!! It's been a long time since i saw Emma!! I hope she's not crazy like what she did during the operation to attack Jaburo. Shame she didn't speak nor Kamille said hi to her "(

Can't wait for the next episode!!!
 
Jul 8, 2014 5:48 AM

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Another slap, and Four pulling a Lalah on us. A shame, considering I sort of liked the character, all gundam romance bullshit aside ofc.

"A woman's selfishness will cost a man's life." Pretty much sums up Beltor's case if you ask me. And this, right here, is why I love Kamille Bidan. seriously though, that quote is hilarious

Can't wait to see Char again.
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Dec 14, 2014 11:41 AM

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Wow what an episode.

I do find it lame how on Gundam the enemy keeps losing it's top "new types" and new "mecha" to love situations. -_-

Good thing they seem to have a new mecha/Gundam? already... Even though from what I seen, seems to be another female. -_-

Never thought Gundam would involve so much love stuff. I thought it was mostly a macross thing.

Why did he just drop the booster? Or did it happen automatically? I don't understand just dropping it like that.

Kamille is so similar to Amuro in a lot of ways. I wonder if that shot is going to prevent Amuro from fighting...
 
May 31, 2015 2:57 PM

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"A woman's selfishness will cost a man's life."
You tell her Kamille!
 
Jul 24, 2015 5:22 PM

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So Kamille has finally rejoin Bright in space and Four seems to be dead
 
Aug 31, 2015 6:55 PM

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Yeah, Beltorchika has grown more and more annoying as time passes. She's outright stalking Amuro and meddling in everything to do with him now. Ugh. That's the kind of woman most guys would run from.

I'm not sure if Four is dead, but it's certainly possible given the sudden romance.

So, now what?
 
Nov 13, 2015 8:24 AM
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Great episode.

Kamille finally back in space.

Four is "dead."

 
Feb 12, 2016 11:47 PM

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I thought Four was gonna be a major character of the series but she just ended up dead like others. Shame really.
 
Mar 17, 2016 8:51 PM
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Great episode, the surprise sacrifice was surprisingly sad, honestly though Four caused so much death and destruction for selfish reasons, that she would have been hard to accept as a reformed character.

I also liked all the Titan officers willing to go down with the ship, a rare moment of Titan heroism.
 
Apr 16, 2016 1:12 AM

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An episode who was captivating but...
- Four dies: I knew she was never going to leave the Federation because of their blackmail but I was certain we would see more of her. I should have known better after Lalah Sune.
- Amuro: forever stucked on Earth, with his creepy stalker. The way he does not get in the way of the main character is great but it feels like he wasn't prominent enough when you see Quattro's role until the Argama leaves. At least, he might have left a good influence on Camille. (this boy has a lot of male models to look up to)
- And of course the greatest member of the cast, the stalker queen who could lead anyone to commit a murder: Beltorchika. Same reason as always.

The moment between the two pilots was very nice. Camille sharing his own memories then forgetting why ^^"

I love the hero's tendency to say his little sentences about life etc...

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At first I thought Amuro would end up murdering Beltorchika because she was a spy. Now I am convinced he'll murder her just because.

I am going to be brutally honest. Up until this episode Zeta Gundam has failed - badly - as a drama. MSG also didn't quite hold up to other classics from the late seventies in that department, but there was more than enough compensation in the shape of intense, breakneck action and overall insanity. The White Base was undersupplied and undermanned, something was almost always broken and the crew escaped by the skin of their teeth more than once, and usually not without someone dying first. Refugees kidnapped children, left the White Base on their own and were promptly gunned down by Char. In another episode, a ceasefire was declared so the rest of the refugees could jump ship, but the White Base's crew decided not to play it straight and use the ceasefire to their advantage. It was a perpetual chase sequence that got crazier by the minute, like a low-budget, animated Fury Road.

Zeta Gundam has none of that, and with the overall writing quality decreasing and the supposedly high stakes situations feeling increasingly forced and unrealistic this series is dangerously close to being a complete train wreck. I am sure it will only improve from here, but it has to improve A LOT to even deserve a seven out of ten, and since my suspension of disbelief mostly gone by now I wonder if that is even possible.
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@Lease_of_Life I think the creator actually tried to make something more personal drama-based as opposed to MSG who tend to be a "little story" inside the big story of the war (who was also depicted). Zut, I m not sure if I wrote it correctly.
Also, in Zeta, you will regularly have artificial/forced situations to trigger the weekly dosis of mecha action who makes half of each episode.

At least, be happy: you have left the zone where the nonsensical sentences and strange dialogues are concentrated.


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Rei366 said:
@Lease_of_Life I think the creator actually tried to make something more personal drama-based as opposed to MSG who tend to be a "little story" inside the big story of the war (who was also depicted). Zut, I m not sure if I wrote it correctly.
Also, in Zeta, you will regularly have artificial/forced situations to trigger the weekly dosis of mecha action who makes half of each episode.

At least, be happy: you have left the zone where the nonsensical sentences and strange dialogues are concentrated.




Good to know, I guess I'll stick around (as if I'd leave a 100-episodes series past the halfway mark). Somehow managed not to read the spoiler while quoting you, by the way.
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Ah, man... *salutes Four* It was nice having a decent female lead while it lasted. Thanks for everything, be sure to drop in at Build Fighters Valhalla! XD

I'd put in more for this ep, about Amuro and Beltorchika's progressively twisted relationship (how she even made it to 0096 I don't even know) and whatnot, except most of my interest has been stolen by next episode's preview:

A SIGN OF ZETA. THAT BLACK-BLUE-RED MOBILE SUIT IN THE PREVIEW.

YOU ALL KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS BOIIIIIIS?

THE ZETA GUNDAM IS A-COMIN' TO TOWWWNNNNNNNNN
 
Oct 30, 2016 7:29 AM

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Another daring narrative ends with a goodbye again? A little sorry, if it were true the departure of Four. Again it is spettaotri of a chain of events, flowing too fast, it does not have time to assimilate the situations, this is the usual defect, the rest is appreciable. Char you want after so many of his appearances in the first part, who knows if we will review Amuro in the future. Quite the old way the final part where Amuro incites Kamille to fly in space; he felt overwhelmingly the old style so prevalent in anime so 80's.
 
Oct 30, 2016 3:20 PM

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Terrific episode!
I know i seem to be in the minority, but i love Kamiile and Four's relationship, even if its abit confusing at times
I am glad to finally been able to see emma again though.
 
Jan 12, 2017 5:37 PM

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I liked Four, what a shame. On the other hand, Beltorchika is still trash.
 
Feb 28, 2017 6:05 PM

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Another fantastic episode I must say! Really intense and just awesome!
 
Aug 20, 2017 2:07 PM

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Beltorchika is the kind of girl who always needs to be told you like her and someone who'd go through your phone.. aka crazy bitch.

Was really enjoying this show at first.. but it's dwindling at the moment. The interactions between the characters is not making me excited.. maybe because the absences of Char..
 
Jan 17, 2018 10:15 AM

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A good episode in my opinion. It could have been better if the show delved more into the though process of the Titan captain instead of making him a cartoonish bad guy.
 
Jan 17, 2018 3:02 PM

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I'm glad the story is finally getting back to space. I just wasn't much of a fan of the characters who dominated the show for the last few episodes.

Amuro Ray Kill Count:
1 Hizack kill this episode
5 kills this war
82 kills total

Kamille Bidan Kill Count:
1 Hizack Kill this episode
28 Kills total
 
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