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May 23, 2009 5:27 AM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Nice ep, awesome battle...Camille is gettin better and better, and Amruo went Char style and saved the day, I was hoping to see more of that big black MS again, though...Urahara Out!!
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Oct 15, 2009 8:02 PM

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Every episode has been freaking good so far, if this keeps going like this I'll have to give a 10 to this series. Also I agree, amazing fight in this ep.

Btw where is Bright and Char? I don't remember where they are or where they went...

Oh and that blond chick is getting annoying... whats up with that Amuro?
 
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Nov 20, 2009 3:04 PM

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so mirei and her kids were taken captive, and amuro thought he could get them back, yeah right! hasn't he ever dealt with the titans?
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Aug 1, 2010 4:03 AM

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Yay for Amuro saving the day! Great fight we got there~
I hope we don't have to go without Char for too much~
 
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Oct 6, 2010 9:43 AM

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Can't Titans do anything without taking hostages every time? Always playing dirty! ><
 
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Veethorn said:


Oh and that blond chick is getting annoying...


Yeah, what the heck happened to her? She was so cool when she flew in on the biplane, I thought she was going to be interesting and unique. Instead she's just becoming a stereotype...
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Dec 5, 2010 9:50 AM

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I miss Char and Bright =/
 
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Jan 6, 2011 9:15 AM

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Urgh, how come that Belto-bitch hasn't got a slap yet? I dislike her even more than Amuro, and that's really saying something.

I really like Four, though.
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Nov 19, 2011 12:52 PM

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Amazing plot
I just hope that the blonde get a slap or two =_=
Have anyone noticed that Amuro can't man up without a female to support him?
 
Dec 12, 2011 8:47 PM

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Seabury said:
Veethorn said:


Oh and that blond chick is getting annoying...


Yeah, what the heck happened to her? She was so cool when she flew in on the biplane, I thought she was going to be interesting and unique. Instead she's just becoming a stereotype...


Yeah, I don't think Tomino has any idea how to write a female character. Well, there is hope in Four hopefully.
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Feb 20, 2013 2:06 PM

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Veethorn said:
Btw where is Bright and Char? I don't remember where they are or where they went...
Bright is the new Captain of the Argama. Char and Katz went back to space.
 
May 10, 2013 4:37 PM

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Mirai didn't do the mouth to mouth breathing correctly...
 
Nov 3, 2013 10:21 PM

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Irma starts to annoy me. Four on the other hand is faring better and is at least somewhat intresting. Camille wasn't warming for her flirts. :/ At least we had good fight but this episode seemed to be pretty much filler.
 
Jan 15, 2014 4:05 AM
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Mirai didn't do the mouth to mouth breathing correctly...
That scene was funny and her daughter reaction was priceless XD
 
Mar 20, 2014 6:35 PM

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Kamille has gotten a lot better. I was neutral towards him in the start but now I like him. Four is pretty interesting. Hope to see more of her.
 
Mar 29, 2014 8:14 AM

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have to say the animation in this series can get really spectacular, great intense episode

also im still sticking by that kamille is a great main character so far and im liking him more and more as it goes on

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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

 
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"Amuro-san, why don't you tell her to shut up?" - Camille Bidan 1986

I'm really starting to dig him more and more as an MC.
Beltor please go. You're wasting air time by existing.
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And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
 
Jul 4, 2014 8:03 PM

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Amazing episode as always!!

Four Murasame is an interesting gir. Definitely acts more mature than Beltorchika :P

She really should stop treating Amuro as a child. Come on now i thought she already gotten through with this.

Four Murasame laughing was kinda disturbing to me O__O

Seems she's getting head aches from the war she's sensing.

Bastard Earth Federation using dirty tactics like this. Not even Zeon are like this. This is more Titan style.

Kamille getting better!! Even without Char and crew he is still capable of pulling this kind of missions.

Stephanie should put more faith to Kamille :P

I'm loving the interactions between Kamille and Amuro!! I hope Amuro reconsiders going to space :)

Can't wait for the next episode!
 
Jan 27, 2015 5:11 AM
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that girl Beltorchika is very annoying -.-'

and at the end when Amuro couldn't handshake Kamille with his right hand because Beltorchika was crying over his shoulder so he handshaked him with left hand instead , that was funny xD xD
 
May 31, 2015 1:34 PM

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Gundam main characters fall in love so easily...

And even after 7 years Amuro is still getting punched/slapped all the time. BTW, can someone please "correct" Beltorchika?
 
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It's not that Tomino is horrible with female characters; it's that he's horrible with romance. Both Sayla and Mirai are pretty decent characters imo. Four shows some promise as a character as well, much more so than Beltorchika (who has undergone flanderization, if anything), but I personally don't like her.

I liked how the episode developed. It was pretty naive if Amuro actually thought the soldiers would trade given that he came alone and unarmed. Otherwise, he handled himself quite well, as did Kamille.

Also, what does the "-tai" honorific mean in Japanese? That's one I'm not familiar with, and I haven't been able to find it in any articles on Japanese honorifics. My subs are translating it as "Captain", but I'm looking for the more literal meaning/context it's generally used in.
 
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TripleSRank said:
Also, what does the "-tai" honorific mean in Japanese? That's one I'm not familiar with, and I haven't been able to find it in any articles on Japanese honorifics. My subs are translating it as "Captain", but I'm looking for the more literal meaning/context it's generally used in.
Do you have a timestamp?

My guess without context would be "taii" pronounced "tie-ee", which means the actual rank of (army) Captain and not 'the captain' as in the commander of a vessel.
 
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Ckan said:
TripleSRank said:
Also, what does the "-tai" honorific mean in Japanese? That's one I'm not familiar with, and I haven't been able to find it in any articles on Japanese honorifics. My subs are translating it as "Captain", but I'm looking for the more literal meaning/context it's generally used in.
Do you have a timestamp?

My guess without context would be "taii" pronounced "tie-ee", which means the actual rank of (army) Captain and not 'the captain' as in the commander of a vessel.

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Kamille refers to Amuro with said honorific. Your explanation could fit given the show's context. To be clear, the full translation in these subs is "Captain Amuro"; I wasn't meaning to imply that Kamille considered Amuro the commander of their group.
 
Aug 24, 2015 12:43 AM

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Oh, I just thought that it'd keep things clearer - not that you were taking that meaning.

Given the context (Kamille's formalish congratulations and deference to Amuro), and after listening: it was really fast, but I do think Kamille said 'taii' with the 'ee' part a little indistinct. I could just be hearing what I want to hear though. It's possible it's something else though - maybe an ad-hoc endearment thing?

My subs actually have it as "Lieutenant Amuro", but that could either be because they used the appropriate naval/air-force rank, or my subs could be somewhat dated/innacurate.
 
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Ckan said:
Oh, I just thought that it'd keep things clearer - not that you were taking that meaning.

Given the context (Kamille's formalish congratulations and deference to Amuro), and after listening: it was really fast, but I do think Kamille said 'taii' with the 'ee' part a little indistinct. I could just be hearing what I want to hear though. It's possible it's something else though - maybe an ad-hoc endearment thing?

My subs actually have it as "Lieutenant Amuro", but that could either be because they used the appropriate naval/air-force rank, or my subs could be somewhat dated/innacurate.

I think your explanation is suitable enough given the context- though the "ee" part definitely is subtle if that's the case.

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The last three episodes have been my favorite run of the series, Kamille is finally acting like a hero and it's great! I also like Four and I'm a total Amuro fanboy. Also dig Mirai and their kids. Basically the show is now just the original series characters with Kamille and different villains and I think it's the better for that.
 
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Veethorn said:
Oh and that blond chick is getting annoying... whats up with that Amuro?

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"Amuro-san, why don't you tell her to shut up?" - Camille Bidan 1986
Beltor please go.

I absolutely dislike this character. She's a terrible one, even more so when you see Mirai in the same episode and remember 0079. She's crippling my Amuro -_-, both mentally and physically (what with that handsake?!Just push her away!). It's not gravity that holds Amuro's back, that's this annoying blond brat!
When Camille gave this advice to Amuro, he gained some esteem from me, but I thought "Amuro, why don't you slap her?" (seriously, there were tons of nerving slaps and punches in the beginning, and nothing now when it is highly needed)

Four was just another mentally-ill lab freak until now, but her good days behavior got me interested. I figured those guinea pigs were badly treated in the Murasame Institute (brain experiences, high stimulation, training...) but she doesn't seem traumatized and is fond of this place o_o. I just didn't like how Camille's radar get crazy immediately at the sight of a girl. Also, I found weird how they "connected" last time but felt nothing this time.
I would like to see a picture from this character drawn by Yasuhiko, he should have made a retelling of Zeta (but again, there is not enough politic in this series -_-).

No awkward dialogue, it felt good! (except for that one out-of-place line)


4/5 because... Four ? ^^"
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I absolutely dislike this character. She's a terrible one.


She is a terrible character... Unless she is a spy.

Come on Beltorchika, tell us you are a spy! Otherwise not only that cryptic "I am afraid of the sky falling, and that man is afraid of fighting" but your entire character would just be bad writing.

Amuro doesn't seem to be annoyed by her. Hell, he probably thinks that is how a woman should behave. His casual sexism is kind of funny.
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The episode could be considered as interlocutory, but it has elements that are key to the story, so it can not be labeled such, the construction of good links between the characters. It sees similarities with the 0079, if we refer to the absence of Char. Not bad yet another clash between good and bad, exciting battle, thanks to the rescue of the Mirai's son at the hands of Amuro. Another element that makes it interesting clashes in Gundam, are also always different contexts.
 
Oct 28, 2016 9:03 PM

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Fantastic episode!
Im really liking Four(So im sure she'll die son then) and Kamiile's chemistry, its playful and cute
Speaking fo Kamiile, he's really beginning to grow on me now that he's has started to mature and now that ive had time to get attached to him.
On the other hand, Can this Blonde Bimbo either die or go away please? This show is nearly perfect if you disregard her!
 
Feb 28, 2017 5:26 PM

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Another intense episode! Really lovely progression now that everything is on a roll!
 
Jan 15, 2018 2:24 PM

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Beltorchika is getting on my nerves... she is becoming a hindrance when talking about me enjoying this show since she became Amuro’s lover.
 
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This episode feels like a complete inversion of what Zeta Gundam should be. Kamille gets to be the hero at Amuro's expense. There has only been one fight where the two have worked together so far, and Kamille has not been able to get anything from the vast experience that Amuro has. I'll have to take Amuro's word that Kamille shows more promise than he did, but what is abundantly clear is that Amuro is currently the better pilot. I really disliked how this episode went out of its way to make Kamille look better at Amuro's expense.

This is why I don't have a problem with Beltorchika. She seems to be the only person in Zeta Gundam who is actually is able to see things how they are. She knows that Amuro is clearly the best and does what she can to put him in the best situation. She knew that Amuro's plan to save Mirai and her children was harebrained and was able to inform Hayato what was happening. The common through line of all her actions, to include becoming Amuro's lover, is what action will best result in a quick and victorious end to the war. She's already made it pretty clear her goal was to get Amuro back into fighting shape.

These last couple of episodes can only take place without Bright or Char. There is no effective leader in the show right now who can bring order to this chaotic mess we're seeing right now.

Amuro Ray Kill Count:
0 kills this episode
4 kills this war
81 kills total

Kamille Bidan Kill Count:
5 Hizack Kills this episode
26 Kills total
 
Sep 14, 2018 10:33 PM

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Amuro doesn't seem to be annoyed by her. Hell, he probably thinks that is how a woman should behave. His casual sexism is kind of funny.


Amuro still doesn't change in that department even after 7 years timeskip.. lol
 
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I almost had feared in a bad way if we had to see they kill off old characters since there are nothing new interesting character presented on this sequel except Kamile somewhat although finding him too inconsistent than younger Amuro. The two new girls giving me nerve in a bad way as well :\ (not to mention based from cover shot..)

Char better appear sooner or later!
 
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Wow, Beltorchika started off with a lot of promise but ever since she locked lips with Amuro she's been helpless and emotional :/

That was a sick rescue op they pulled off though. I'm impressed with Hayato's quick thinking and Kamille and Amuro working together to save Mirai-tachi!
 
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