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Jul 11, 2014 4:47 PM

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Nice episode. I laughed at that end commentary "sleeping beast" :D
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Jul 13, 2014 12:52 PM

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Cool, a Faye episode.
Jul 16, 2014 6:29 AM

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intereting that she managed to make such a name for herself in just three years of being in a futuristic world.
that seems pretty impressive
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Aug 13, 2014 8:56 PM

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this episode is full if lies. damn. that look of Ein in the end though
Duterte did 9/11
Sep 11, 2014 11:55 AM

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First we have Ed adorably declare her love for chocolate. Then we have a creepy doctor being all creepy over Faye's revived body. Altogether, this was a funny episode.
Oct 16, 2014 11:32 AM

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Nice to find out more about Faye. Pretty amusing :)
Oct 18, 2014 1:06 PM

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"Too long, your story needs editing"

Dec 3, 2014 10:48 PM

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19800 Woolongs. That's pathetic. Loved the development and past insight of Faye in this episode. Imagine waking up to a future you never wanted and never know, and not even know about your own identity. A technical reference to one of Japanese's oldest literature: Urashima Tarou.
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Dec 31, 2014 3:45 AM

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Rolling back 54 years from 2068, that would mean Faye was cryogenically frozen during this year - 2014.
Dec 31, 2014 3:45 AM

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Rolling back 54 years from 2068, that would mean Faye was cryogenically frozen during this year - 2014.
Jan 24, 2015 3:15 PM

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Pretty good episode. Fun to learn more about Faye since I really like her :)
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Jan 26, 2015 7:16 AM

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Great episode!

Nice to see Faye's past and how she was cryogenic and woke up 50 years later while retaining as 20 year old woman.

Since Whitney Hagas said it's been 3 years now, Faye is already 23 physically by this show :)

It's kinda weird to think that Faye is technically 50+ years old! Then again we had that episode where the kid couldn't age due to radiation, so it's not that bad.

Would love to stay physically in my 20s even if i'm already in my 50s!

Despite all the lies, at least Whitney Hagas did fell in love with Faye. It's just a shame they had to deceive her, but i'm glad Faye didn't broke down or anything.

Also what was this gate accident thing? I think i remember this in the first few episodes, so that it?

Oh well i hope we could learn more about Faye's past. It seems she's quite similar with Spike and how both were "experimented" on.

Love Otsuka's voice!! He really sound young in this compared to his voice today ^^

Sasuga Big Boss!!

Can't wait for the next episode!! Seems it's gonna appeal to old people :P
Mar 5, 2015 5:32 PM

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...Slow but meh it was a good episode. Got to learn about her past.

Fat implant. Whyyy 0_0
Jun 3, 2015 2:02 AM

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I swear these background episode are the best of Bebop.
Aug 17, 2015 10:44 AM

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Well, this didn't explain much about her character, except maybe her disdain towards debts.

Guess she was already a bitch before her memory loss.
And another mindless betrayal...

"Women don't work on reason", Jet's always right :p
Sep 14, 2015 6:29 PM

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TIL 2014 was when cell phones had solar antennas. Always fun when shows from decades ago talk about modern tech.
Sep 15, 2015 8:00 AM

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I really appreciate that the bounty hunters don't pretend to like each other, it's not like in other shows where the team automatically works together. It's really great that if you try to screw over everyone else, the rest of the bounty hunters will not go easy on you
Sep 17, 2015 7:01 PM

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What a messed up way to wake up.
Oct 16, 2015 4:48 AM

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Valentine Faye, the sleeping beauty.
Nov 13, 2015 11:13 PM

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Wasn't expecting a backstory for Faye. Much less that one... She's old
Jan 1, 2016 6:35 AM
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Faye's focused episode. She's 70+ years old O.O

Jan 3, 2016 9:52 PM

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Cellphones didn't have solar antennas in 2014. That it, this episode deserves a 1/5.
Once again, always bad at predicting the future, even 15 years into it.

Anyways, good episode and interesting revelation.
Feb 25, 2016 1:39 AM

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Nice episode but what was the point of Faye's backstory? we didn't learn anything about her past except that she's 74 years old O_o
Mar 11, 2016 6:55 AM
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I wasnt expecting all that background exposure for Faye. Definitly a great and pleasant surprise, and some good development too.
Apr 8, 2016 8:26 PM

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"You have a future, that's what counts."
May 29, 2016 7:42 AM

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Lol washing machine in 2060+ xD
What a coincidence, everything happened so suddenly
Anime coincidence, gotta love 'em xD
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Aug 5, 2016 12:41 PM

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Did they really expect someone who's been sleeping for 50+ years to pay their debt back?
Aug 7, 2016 5:40 PM

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it didnt make sense when spike and jet made the bet cause wasnt JET the one saying she'd let him go at first (saying the tough ones always turn out to be soft), and then 2 seconds later the bet was reversed, with SPIKE betting 4 to 1 that she let him go?

lol and who drew on Ein?!

THe previews for the next episode look badassss! Jet's background! And he looks like a mafioso!
Oct 26, 2016 12:32 PM

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Nice and funny backstory XD
So... the debt is still going on or not for her?
Dec 3, 2016 6:33 AM

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That the lawyer was a cheat, I was sure from the beginning, is the fault of this anime, which prepared me for anything. XD
Narration pleasant and nice, as expected. Perhaps the blink, in past episodes, age of Faye, was a clue about his past. The OST is great. The characters are fantastic, and all very original, what happiness!
Dec 30, 2016 10:26 PM

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I didn't like her past
But I like her a lot
Feb 3, 2017 11:24 PM

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Faye's past, or lack there of, was interesting. I wonder if she/we will ever find out her actual history.
Aug 25, 2017 11:28 AM

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Very funny episode.

Faye best girl.
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Oct 3, 2017 1:24 PM

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Wow, that was a really interesting episode to learn more of Faye.

I really didn't expect that back story of her being in some kind of accident and being chryogenically frozen.

It's a shame all her information from before was lost so she couldn't find out what happened to her.

That guy changed a lot in 3 years lol. With surgery or whatever.

I can't believe Spike said "you're story's too long, it needs editing" LOL! that was hilarious! I'mma gonna use that.
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Feb 15, 2018 3:42 AM

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I hadn't expected a Faye Valentine backstory episode, nor would I have expected such an episode to be so interesting. I really like the Japanese voice actors. It's refreshing to watch an anime where the performers have range, and aren't just yelling all of their lines. Megumi Hayashibara, who plays Faye, gives the most relaxed delivery at times.
Apr 9, 2018 4:14 AM
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Lol how many times has faye betrayed the group already😜
May 16, 2018 2:18 PM
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Easily one of my favorite episodes so far (besides episodes 9 and 11). Faye is honestly my favorite character (besides Ed) and this episode made me love her even more :D
Dec 6, 2018 4:01 PM

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Since it wasn't posted in the thread yet, here's the song that the doctor mentions as his favourite, also the title of this episode:

Dec 14, 2018 10:29 PM

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the real funny valentine gets a deserved backstory. cool episode!
Jan 10, 11:22 AM

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Extremely disappointing episode because it was supposed to flesh out the enigma behind Faye Valentine, but it didn't make any sense.

It appears that Faye Valentine had a bad accident 54 years ago and was put into cold sleep to protect her body and ensure she would survive until an era with superior medical technology that could heal her. The process is a success as she is operated on while in cryo-stasis and awakens in good physical condition. The only snag being that she owes over 300M and has lost her memory, which is problematic because the records on her past were destroyed in the infamous astrogate disaster.

After that the plot becomes ridiculous which is actually a shame with such a strong premise. Faye is lied to and a scammer working with the doctor introduces himself as a lawyer assigned by the relevant insurance company. He starts taking her out and buying nice things before faking his own death. Now the totally unbelievable part occurs, Faye agrees to accept his estate without knowing what that estate actually entails. There is no way that in a sophisticated future with cryo-sleep, advanced fingerprint technology, hologram technology and complex spaceflight that contract law has regressed to the point where a vulnerable party can accept debt she does not know about nor is able to service.

Why would Faye accept an estate without looking into accepting a debt without checking on it first? The creditors would be forced to accept the losses at face value if the estate cannot be sufficiently liquidated to service them. The entire scam doesn't make any sense. You operate on and revive people with no biographical records to hand over a debt of a few million when the operation supposedly costs hundreds of millions? In addition you are reviving people you know nothing about who are totally unsuited to the future because they haven't experienced anything and thus are highly unlikely to be able to pay you back or produce any profits. This is such a stupid scam if you think about it for half a minute. The transfer of debts wouldn't stand up in any court and you accrue serious costs for reviving what may be potentially useless individuals who are unable to pay anything back. What happens if you revive an individual with violent or extremely aggressive tendencies? The entire enterprise is absolutely stupid and surely you would use such advanced medical facilities to turn an honest profit instead.

Faye's behaviour when they capture Whitney is poorly written. The writers have made Faye an independent asshole that they can flip a switch on whenever they like. Instead of communicating with her crew she hijacks the bounty, points a gun at them and threatens to kill them before becoming embroiled in a dogfight with Spike over a man that conned her repeatedly because she wants to talk to him. Why didn't she just tell Spike and Jet that this man potentially holds the keys to her past and she wants a delay in handing him over so they can get to the bottom of the entire affair? Instead she risks death or serious injury for herself and her teammates because we needed action for the end of the episode. Why would Spike and Jet keep her around if she back stabs them at a moment's notice and seems okay with putting their lives at risk for myopic aims? We are repeatedly shown that this crew lives on the edge and keeps missing out on major bounties due to minor issues, so their financial status is constantly imperiled. There is no way they keep somebody as unreliable and disloyal as Faye Valentine even if they thinks she's hot.

The scam makes no sense, the resolution makes no sense and Faye's decision-making is frankly ridiculous even if you account for the fact that she desperately wants to know her past and used to have feelings for the bounty.
Apr 24, 5:18 AM

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So, we have no idea who she really is.
May 23, 10:40 PM

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Spike is so mean to Faye in this episode. Guess I don't blame him considering he hates bitches.

Not the best episode but interesting to get some backstory on Faye. I still want to know who she is and more about her past.
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