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May 12, 2009 3:13 PM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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GREAT EPISODE! I love how they did Hawk's I will give your women my genes speech! I love the Light Yagami edge they gave it. And I'm surprised that they were able to fit it in Ippo's fight with Yi Yonsu



for those who care, hawk's trainer miguel zeel is played by iizuka shozo the voice of nappa and hacchan from dragon ball, barragan from bleach, mr. heart and budou from hokuto no ken, tiger ozaki from ashita no joe and ryu jose from gundam
May 12, 2009 4:43 PM
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this episode pissed me off a great deal, but before i get into that i will get into what i thought was good.

THE GOOD:

- I really liked the gene speech myself and loved how they gave it a feel like it was a scene from deathnote ( i see i'm not the only one who noticed that ) , the whole conference was handled really well

- The animation was pretty nice and fluid for the most part

- Hawk's VA does an amazing job

THE BAD:

- The pacing for this episode annoyed the fuck out of me, they fit in way too much material and it ruined a lot of the dramatic effect from scenes such as the kamogawa talk and the talk between ippo and takamura, it just felt way too rushed, that and the fact they even put in the entire yi yonsu fight, i know it's a short fight but fucking hell they rushed it when it could have been left for 5 minutes at the start of the next episode (if that) and then end the next episode just as hawk and takamura enter the ring (no chance of that), they then could have slowed down the whole ippo and takamura speech to add for dramatic effect and even not have had to get rid of the ippo and kamogawa talk in order to make the time limit!

- Another prime example of shitty pacing being the ammount of time it took between the women entering Hawk's spar to the guy getting knocked out, Hawk must have became 'the flash'.

This director is getting on my nerves, nishimura please come back and bring tsuneo too!

And i hope to god they end with the Hawk fight and don't animate the backstory arc which follows, they should just make that into an OVA and have the old team handle it.

Overall 3/5
May 12, 2009 8:35 PM
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yeah, i wonder why nishimura is taking so much time with the trigun movie. lets hope he goes back to hni after this. but i can over look the flaws you pointed out since i really wanted to see hawk's conquest speech the most
May 13, 2009 8:19 AM
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according to an article on ANN, nishimura is appearing at some anime con i think this month to discuss the trigun movie, so maybe then we will get an end date, i mean i like trigun but i love HNI and the trigun movie was meant to be done like a year ago, what could be taking so long.

Hawk's speech was really good, even i can find no fault with how that was handled, just the other stuff which pissed me off basically.

EDIT:

nishimura will be at AX 2009 in july.
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May 13, 2009 2:47 PM
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i wont be going to ax, but if anyone does, please bring up hni
May 14, 2009 5:54 PM
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Excellent, I hope Takamura kill Hawk's >.<
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May 15, 2009 6:14 PM
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damn that speech and that whole conference got me to the edge of my seat! fabulous episode. takamura better win.
May 15, 2009 6:15 PM
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Some how hawk is becoming a favorite villain in my opinion his Arrogance almost tops that of cell.
May 15, 2009 6:29 PM
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This episode was packed full of goodies, so much energy in the conference and the fight. wow just wow, worth every minute.
May 15, 2009 7:34 PM

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Sweet. Hawk just gives off the vibe of the bad guy.

Best ep this season. :D
The pace was a bit too fast for my taste.
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good episode for me.
May 15, 2009 11:53 PM

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DAMN IPPO KICKED HIS ASS but i cant wait next ep hawk vs takamura finally!!!!!!!!!!!!!
May 16, 2009 12:00 AM

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Next ep: Armageddon!
May 16, 2009 1:09 AM

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darth_lex said:
damn that speech and that whole conference got me to the edge of my seat! fabulous episode. takamura better win.
Pretty much the exact same way I felt, that press conference was intense, I kinda wanted to charge at Hawk and take a swing at him myself, I don't know how Takamura was able to restrain himself.
May 16, 2009 3:38 AM

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awesome episode its really gettin epic
May 16, 2009 5:10 AM
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going to be a fight
May 16, 2009 5:40 AM
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it's the best anime it will be awesome takamuras fight
May 16, 2009 8:00 AM
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Wow. This was the best anime episode I've seen in a long time in regards to excitement. I just wanted to scream out loud by the time it ended. IPPOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! Seriously. I can't wait to see Takamura's title fight. They've built it up so great. Bring it on!
May 16, 2009 8:54 AM

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Hawk is so gonna have his head hammered in lol yahooo
May 16, 2009 10:49 AM

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This has to have been the worst animated episode yet. There was next to no animation besides the Dempsey Roll during Ippo's fight, and even that looked like a series of about 8-10 pictures on a loop. Hawk has to be one of the most horrible characters I've ever seen in a show. His whole presence is ludicrous, and that crap that they were doing with him in the press conference was terrible.

Besides that, the stuff with Takamura was good, but there wasn't really much to go with.
May 16, 2009 12:30 PM

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Awesome episode !
May 16, 2009 3:14 PM

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Great EP but pacing was too fast.

May 16, 2009 7:23 PM
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oh yeah, hawk has his spar at the kinoshita gym, the gym where sanada and karasawa trained out of
May 17, 2009 4:25 AM

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loved the light yagami feel. XD

Takamura, please beat the hell out of this guy.
May 17, 2009 6:06 AM

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Just the best episode of the season so far...
But the futur...
Hawk VS Takamura... The best fight of the manga. *____*
May 17, 2009 7:44 AM
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I actually liked Ippo vs Sawamura more than the Hawk fight personally but still this fight still sucks ass.

I hope they don't change the colors of Hawk's trunks from the games like they did with Arnie and Itagaki.
May 18, 2009 5:18 AM

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Nice episode as always. Maybe it was a little rush but i believe only manga fans will have a problem with that since people that watch the anime just can't wait to get to the Hawk fight. Although i have to admit the fight with Ippo was a little rushed.
By the guy did that guy slipped, had a problem with his leg or something? Why did he miss? Ippo was gone a get his ass in the floor if that didn't happen. Really for a champion that defended his title a few times he still acts like his very inexperience.

Hawk is doing a very good job at playing the bad guy. By now probably everyone hate him as hell and will enjoy very much seeing him lose. Although i must admit i kind of understand his crazy behavior and i can't think of a better way for him to act. A tough American guy from a shitty neighborhood in NY that always had his way with his fist and winning is about to act like an asshole.
I just love that Hajime no Ippo is giving us the chance to see the big bad guy from America since we had enough of Hollywood and the big bad Russian, Arab,German,French,Greek, Italian and whatever else guy.
May 18, 2009 6:45 AM
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as for the ippo fight being rushed, the fight was fast in the manga to begin with. plus, it was ippo's way of "keeping his promise."
May 18, 2009 9:28 AM
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Nice episode as always. Maybe it was a little rush but i believe only manga fans will have a problem with that since people that watch the anime just can't wait to get to the Hawk fight. Although i have to admit the fight with Ippo was a little rushed.
By the guy did that guy slipped, had a problem with his leg or something? Why did he miss? Ippo was gone a get his ass in the floor if that didn't happen. Really for a champion that defended his title a few times he still acts like his very inexperience.


the reason he slipped was because ippo hit him on his chin with the first punch, so it was a delayed reaction.
May 18, 2009 10:11 AM

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The ending of the episode was awesome!
May 19, 2009 12:48 AM

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man can't wait to see Takamura beat the shit out of this cunt

also I'm sick of Ippo always fucking missing when his opponent goes down. it happens every time. what the fuck? I was really hoping he'd just blow him out of the ring. Oh well.
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May 19, 2009 3:08 PM

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Gotta admit, Ippo's fight was exhilarating.
May 20, 2009 2:04 PM
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One of the best episodes of this season, with a great tension builder in the beginning and a fantastically quick and efficient match. The BGMs were extremely well chosen for once and the direction was great. This second season is finally on par with the first, it took at least 15 episods, but now we're there. Looking forward to the championship match now.

In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same.
May 20, 2009 8:21 PM

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Press conference was insane haha. But Dempsey roll sucked :(

Good episode.
Jul 4, 2009 2:02 AM

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Loved Ippo's fight, but the pacing of this whole season has been a little off.
Aug 22, 2009 4:49 PM

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darth_lex said:
damn that speech and that whole conference got me to the edge of my seat! fabulous episode. takamura better win.


I know! I squealed when Hawk pimped the Kamogawa! Oooh~
Hawk has to be a one of the worst anime charactesr ever D<
"Even if we sent her, she'd get sent back" That line on Tomiko was funny. xDD
Oct 30, 2009 10:27 PM

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Woah =O Ippo opens up the stage for Takamura, didn't expect it to go so smoothly but considering that the main event is Takamura's dragging out the fight wouldn't have made sense.
Nov 11, 2009 10:03 AM

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geat epsiode
Mar 15, 2010 8:40 PM

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This has to have been the worst animated episode yet. There was next to no animation besides the Dempsey Roll during Ippo's fight, and even that looked like a series of about 8-10 pictures on a loop. Hawk has to be one of the most horrible characters I've ever seen in a show. His whole presence is ludicrous, and that crap that they were doing with him in the press conference was terrible.

Besides that, the stuff with Takamura was good, but there wasn't really much to go with.


I have to disagree. I think there have to be villains in anime sometimes that are just plain evil. I really hope they don't give Hawk a backstory as to why he's such an asshole since that would ruin the whole show.

I loved this episode minus the pacing. The episode hit its climax during the argument between Kamogawa and Hawk and sort of dropped from there. The fight between Ippo and Yi should have been at least three minutes longer. It was so anti-climactic.
Mar 19, 2010 11:19 PM

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The animation felt a little cheap in comparison to the beginning of the season. The pace was a bit crazy and Ippo's fight felt rushed.

Next episode... LEEEETS GET READY TO RUMBLE!
Oct 29, 2010 3:28 PM
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After watching this episode I felt like I drank 4 cups of coffe. This episode was so intense, everything was going so damn fast, I had to hold my breath for a while.
Jan 5, 2011 8:55 PM

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I can't believe WTF Hawk just said! Do they lynch people in Japan? Amazing, this guy has antagonized everyone and everything to the limit. I guess it's also no small miracle that not only did Takamura make weight, he didn't try to slug Hawk. Seriously, I almost went cross-eyed during this episode. Is this not the most outrageous American stereotype ever?

Jul 7, 2011 1:38 AM

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It's like no one cares about Ippo's match lol
Even when I was in crowd, I was always alone
Jul 19, 2011 10:03 AM

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Finally next episode will be Taka's match! Great win by the way for Ippo.. that Korean fellow wasn't able to do anything.. the anticipation is killing me.. I hope Taka rips Hawk up! >:-O
Aug 21, 2011 1:23 PM
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dat bastard punched kamogawa
Jul 27, 2013 11:57 PM

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Takamura better beat the shit out of Hawk.
Sep 2, 2013 7:24 AM

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Hawk is a arrogant prick, but that makes things more exciting, I hope Takamura is able to pull through in this match. I don't know the outcome but I can't wait to see this match.
Nov 27, 2013 6:00 PM

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Idk which is more scary this episode - Brian Hawk or that ending scene.
Nov 27, 2013 7:03 PM

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Wow, I wanted to punch Brian Hawk's face myself when he said and did all those things at the Conference..
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The Hawk is the Ghengis Khan of Boxing.
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