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| It's fucked up because Akio (an adult) took advantage of Utena's naiveté (who is, again, a middle school student). Not because she's not a virgin anymore. And while it's unfortunate that she wasn't smarter, she's not to blame for this. Unsettling episode. I really like that this show took some risks, and I'm not just talking about this episode. For example, in most anime (especially those aimed at otaku audiences), it's very rare for you adult characters to ever even be in a relationship, let alone have sex. Probably because the production comittees are afraid that they won't be able to sell enough figures and dakimakura if the viewer's waifu isn't a virgin or is in a relationship. Well, unless it's the main love interest, sometimes. (Of course, I'm just speculating, and I realize that I'm oversimplifying things.) |
LeeTailorSep 11, 2017 6:27 AM
| That was unexpected, and what a mindblowing episode. |
| Well... that happened, it's nice to see people here discussing episodes in a way that you don't see in many other anime, it's kind of weird, but it's also pretty neat. Anyways, yeah, you've seen the episode and this thread has over a hundred responses, I hardly can say anything that has been said. EDIT: Wait, she's 14? Really? Holy crap, I thought Utena was older lol. Ahio is some real ass, don't you think? |
| Around the gif~ "It's a big mistake to think you're the only one who can turn into a car" - Shiori Takatsuki |
| I was finally getting into enjoying the show a little in the past few episodes but now this. I'm so disappointed with Utena, was the part about being boyish only about breaking school rules and putting on shorts!? Why do all these girls keep on falling for playboys!? |
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| Incredible. This honestly took me by surprise. |
 SEIZON SENRYAKU: Hungry 100% of the time.Vzla-IT |
| Damn, her cherry popped. Another very cool recap in this show. |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
| Art-wise this episode feels like its going full evangelion. I can't believe it's 50% recap though, like seriously? Well, I'm long past the point of caring how this ends (gainax ending defense mechanisms activated!) Utena flexing, my precious cinnamon bun And then, *that* happened... The animation on Utena's face when she's talking about lunch tomorrow is on point. |
glassknucklesOct 13, 2018 1:01 AM
| Easily the best recap episode ever made, like I'm not even angry! I had chills throught the whole thing, and ending scenes with Utena were so damn hard to watch, ugh! |
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| Man, it's been a long time since I've disliked a character as much as I do Akio. |
| Totally expected this, since the whole point of this show is Revolutionizing their childhood as well as making "End of the Childhood" real. So Akio is acting as the "Mr. Putting an End to My Childhood", maybe that's the reason why the girls on the radio call him as "Mr. End of the World"... Rose delivery... Bride delivery, ahhh... Anthy not wanting to look at real stars, not wanting to face reality? Seems to be the case. |
| Can't believe this happened in a recap episode, why not I guess. |
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| I honestly don't know who's more dangerous Akio or Anthy. An interesting move to add some serious plot into recap epsiode... The episode shows scenes of all the main characters losing their duels and finishes with Utena's loss. Hm. |
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| Goddamn, that was by far one of the most upsetting episodes i have ever watched. Gotta give mad props to the show for managing to get under my skin in a way that very few anime have. The fact that i never see Akio mentioned in "Most Hated Character/Villain" threads alongside Griffith, Shou Tucker, Kyubey, etc. just goes to show that not enough people have watched Utena. It really feels like they did it purposefully, dropping such a huge bomb in a recap episode; like they expected the audience to lower their guard so that the sucker punch of that scene hits so much harder. Also, like the person above me already mentioned, it's like they intentionally showcased the Duelist's previous losses in order to accentuate that now...it was Utena's turn to "lose". Utena, my girl; stay strong. |
Stygian_PrisonerSep 2, 2019 9:38 AM
| So it wasnt really a recap episode (only recapped random bits anyway) but suddenly progressed Utenas relationship. Nearly skipped it, but they presented it obvious that its not just a recap. I have no idea what to make of this. But in the end Utena struggles with the eternal question "what shall I eat?" Ironically this might be my favourite episode, the one which feels like straight out of evangelion. Wtf you mean she is 14??? |
Comander-07Apr 28, 2020 6:27 PM
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
| The fact that the recap of this episode is mainly focused on characters getting manipulated by others (think Miki getting manipulated by his sister Kozue, Juri getting manipulated by Ruka) really just perfectly encapsulates what is currently happening to Utena. I feel sick thinking about it, poor girl. You could really feel that discomfort and uneasiness as she tries to make "small talk" when they're literally about to have sex. It's almost like she's trying to act as if it isn't happening. She knows what is happening isn't right. It is practically rape after all. One of the best scenes I've ever watched be composed in anime. The staging of it is perfect, as you slowly realise what is going on before it dawns on you. It's so well done, I don't know where to begin. I guess, in my mind, this confirms it: The End Of The World is the loss of virginity, the first sexual experience, the loss of innocence ect. And it is Akio who represents this. |
SeijatachiiiiSep 29, 2020 2:51 PM
| Okay... so another recap episode featuring a bit of plot development to save itself from being skipped, huh? Most of its duration made me remember just how much I hate Kozue and Shiori's characters and the revelation of Utena being so easily manipulable to the point of giving her virginity to a man who compares himself to freaking Lucifer wasn't surprising at all. It was bounded to happen sooner or later and if it wasn't with Akio, it would have been with Touga instead. |
| This recap episode is so different than any recap episode i've ever seen. Shit! It is great, but it is very unsettling and disturbing! |
| Utena scored with her crush, good for her, she'll remember her first time for her whole life and man, she did it with the biggest jerk in the world, damn. |
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| Hahahahahahahahaha! Oh dear, this would suck if you were really attached to Utena and the series lmao. |
| Really hate recap episodes, but they really make it worthwhile in this anime Honestly don't know what else to say, just absolutely despise Akio really |
| I feel empty now... Poor Utena... |
| Wait, people are surprised that Akio and Utena had sex? I thought that was obvious back in episode 30, let alone here. And the revelation that Akio is the End of the World is no real surprise, as there's not really anyone else it could have been at this point. More importantly, though, did we really need another recap episode so close to the end? The closer I get to the end, the more convinced I am that this story did not need to be any more than two cours long and that it's been stretched out to an absurd degree: you could cut 99% of the Black Rose arc, most of Nanami's episodes (including her recap episode) and almost all of this episode and very little about the show would change at all. But no, gotta milk that stock footage for all its worth, amirite? |
| I'm seeing that a lot of the comments here have very normal responses to a girl being groomed and taken advantage of by someone who they see as a trustworthy adult. Truly, this community is the pinnacle of maturity. It feels weird for me to call a recap episode one of my favorite anime episodes of all time, but I struggle to think of many other episodes that have left me as uncomfortable and horrified as this. I think it being a recap episode is essential, as the tradition of those being lighter leads you into a false sense of security, only for the reveal to be an absolute betrayal to both Utena and the audience. It hits even harder on a rewatch when you know about the Akio twist, where you can see how hard Utena's trying to repress her fear and disassociate in order to not get hurt, only to be continually forced to face the harsh reality of her situation. It presents this subject matter in a way where the presentation of it is tasteful enough to not feel remotely exploitative, while still having its absolute horror be on full display. It's an incredibly mature handling of the event that it feels like most anime prove themselves to be incapable of. It's a masterful episode in how unsettling it is. |
Sirius__Feb 9, 2023 6:07 PM
| fuck akio that stinky ass fucker |
| wow |
| Some of you really forgetting Utena is a TEENAGER and Akio is i-dont-even-wanna-know years old and a master manipulator. You only know Akio is evil cause youre seeing everything as the audience AND YOU STILL BLAME THE VICTIM! Y'all need to get some thinking skills, empathy and touch some grass💀 |
 𝑩𝒖𝒕 𝒚𝒐𝒖 𝒔𝒉𝒐𝒖𝒍𝒅 𝒌𝒏𝒐𝒘 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝒂𝒔 𝒅𝒂𝒓𝒌 𝒂𝒔 𝒏𝒊𝒈𝒉𝒕 𝒊𝒔, 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒔𝒕𝒂𝒓𝒔 𝒔𝒕𝒊𝒍𝒍 𝒔𝒉𝒊𝒏𝒆 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒔𝒖𝒏 𝒘𝒊𝒍𝒍 𝒔𝒕𝒊𝒍𝒍 𝒓𝒊𝒔𝒆. |
| Well well good thing I already dislike utena character in the previous episode but it's still bugging me, why she plotted to be a easy girl ? Dang it it really irritate me now |
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Well well good thing I already dislike utena character in the previous episode but it's still bugging me, why she plotted to be a easy girl ? Dang it it really irritate me now
| @Destroyer31 Akio is an adult that's essentially grooming a middle schooler. Of course she's "dumb" in comparison to him. |
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Some of you really forgetting Utena is a TEENAGER and Akio is i-dont-even-wanna-know years old and a master manipulator. You only know Akio is evil cause youre seeing everything as the audience AND YOU STILL BLAME THE VICTIM! Y'all need to get some thinking skills, empathy and touch some grass💀
| @smallest_moon Ironically, that's the point of this show that the audience doesn't get. The double standard around women and demonizing them. That's why I always say that Nanami's egg is one that wraps up the themes of this show in a nutshell. If you're an early bloomer, then you're a shameful slut. If you're a late bloomer, then you're a flat chested loser. Men can sleep with anyone they want, but girls aren't allowed that luxury. It's happening with Utena in this episode. It's actually hilarious. They hate Kozue for manipulating Miki into dueling Utena, even though he ultimately wanted Anthy, but he was too cowardly to fight Utena for her. Yet when Akio is actually manipulating a minor, they blame the girl again... Another is the hate of Shiori, and the love of Ruka. I don't blame them for not liking Shiori, because I hate how she just wants to make Juri miserable, when Juri has done nothing but be nice to her and like her. All of that, for her petty feelings of jealousy. Though they miss how Ruka was basically bullying Shiori, just because Juri liked Shiori. How is Ruka any better than Shiori, when he's literally bullying and trying to make her life miserable, just because he's jealous of Shiori? Ruka got the sympathy of the audience, for essentially doing what Shiori did. |
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Okay... so another recap episode featuring a bit of plot development to save itself from being skipped, huh? Most of its duration made me remember just how much I hate Kozue and Shiori's characters and the revelation of Utena being so easily manipulable to the point of giving her virginity to a man who compares himself to freaking Lucifer wasn't surprising at all. It was bounded to happen sooner or later and if it wasn't with Akio, it would have been with Touga instead.
| @SouthRzVa Yes, miss the point of the anime by hating women the most... Kozue: literally was willing to put aside her feelings so that her brother could get Anthy. Because let's be honest here, Miki wanted to possess Anthy, but he stopped because he was too cowardly to fight Utena for her. That's why she called him a coward in the end. I like how the audience frames Kozue as manipulating Miki, when he actually wanted Anthy. Though when Akio is actually grooming and manipulating Utena, the audience blames her. Shiori: I understand not liking her, but I find it hypocritical how people like Ruka, when he essentially did the same thing that Shiori did. Shiori dated a guy, just to keep him from Juri. Shiori is ultimately jealous of Juri, which is why she wants the worse for her. She's rightfully demonized, since the only thing that Juri did to Shiori was be liked by the guy that Shiori had a crush on, and love Shiori. Ruka was ultimately liked by the audience, and he did the exact same thing as Shiori. He literally dated Shiori and practically bullied her, simply because he was jealous that Juri liked her. Shiori did nothing to him but be liked by Juri, and like Ruka. Yet the audience likes him, and hates Shiori. Tbh, that's what this anime is ultimately about though. Double standards between men and women. |
| i skipped all the recap parts...but also wtf?!?!?! the brothers a pedophile. Utena's literally a kid omfg |
| desu desu binches |
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