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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- I really hate Anthys brother. |
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| I love how they make a whole review episode but you have to watch just for the part at the end. It really makes my day :D |
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| I don't like recaps but this episode was worth the Utena parts. I can't believe what happened. What is the symbolism behind Anthy not wanting to look at the real stars? She doesn't want reality? |
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| So wait... did that sonuvabitch just score with Utena? |
| I love how all three recap episodes in this anime actually had new material and not only patched up scenes form previous episodes. |
| Utena got conquered! |
| 頭脳は子供、見た目は大人！ ƪ(˘⌣˘)ʃ |
Alas86 said: So wait... did that sonuvabitch just score with Utena? Sadly that would seem to be the case, as much as it saddens me. I do enjoy the recap episodes in this series, they are always interesting. |
| Why can't all recap episodes be this good? |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| omg ughhhhhhhhhhhhh gross. poor utena giving it up to a manipulative ugly manwhore |
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| Recap episodes don't get much better than that, 33 episodes into a 39 episode show is kind of an awkward place for a recap though. |
| "My tables-meet it is I set it down That one may smile, and smile, and be a villain." |
| I loved it. This episode was SO evangelion-ish. I wouldn't be surprised if the final episode is Utena receveing "omedetou" from the others characters and just that. |
| hmm... ok so that was how it happened, roses delivery |
| Wow. I almost skipped this one over thinking it was just a recap episode and it turns out to have one of the most stunning events so far in the series. Darling Utena giving it up to the Dark Prince. Wow. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| wow, they know how to make recap episodes. I'm wondering when "Dios" will play a role (if it is in fact a person and not just a god or something) and when (if ever) will they go to that damn castle Just another thought,but watching through these recaps makes me realize that each character yearns for something eternal and that is the motivating factor for each duel. So, my guess would be that Akio and Touga show these people how to get something eternal or maybe a glimpse of something eternal (whether it be an illusion or not) and once these people have seen eternity their being changes. |
| that was close... i was going to skip this episode.. until i skimmed it lol.. sigh.. now i wonder what's the point in watching the rest of the show.. what's the purpose of it.. to me.. this episode just made me think that it lost it's meaning of Utena wanting to meet her prince.. cause i still think Dios is the prince.. i'm even more disappointed knowing that Utena is an easy girl, why.. because she was just going to deliver roses and instead had sex as well lol... i'm srsly glad i'm not attached to the protagonist or i'd be so frustrated right now.. i can only imagine what i'd feel if i really liked Utena.. glad I feel neutral about Utena.. |
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| About Utena's breakfast talk. Her old self, today's meal, was broken (eaten) and she needs rearrange what's left of it to have something as the next day's breakfast (her new identity). But I'm not sure what the conflict is since in Utena's eyes Akio is still a good guy, although a playboy. While she slept with someone who's already taken, she had already adapted the philosophy no love is wrong (although she morally thinks it's wrong it's a matter of falling ot temptation, not changing her core values). Anyway, she needs to think whether she values that night as just experimenting, something that's not emotional or a commitment to love him (different ways to use what's left). It's pretty shallow and forced symbolism once again though. Thought I have to say I hate Akio's guts and I'm a bit disappointed with Utena because I like her, though that's only a human mishap. |
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| NO!!! why!! Utena!! why?!!! she gave her virginity to that manipulative manwhore! this is just TRAGIC! |
| I can't believe Utena did it with that incestuous bastard. That's so FUCKING TRAGIC, Utena WHYYYYYYYYYYY????????????? |
| It was a good recap episode. However, I'm wondering how/why did Utena end up like that. Nevertheless, it was a good episode. |
| That was certainly one of the more eventful recap episodes I have seen. I also like the symbolism in the fact that Utena was sent to give Akio some flowers and... well, she did just that, if you know what I mean. |
| He's so gonna get fired and arrested for doing it with a minor |
| Even when I was in crowd, I was always alone |
| I kept wondering who Utena's mystery date was. It's upsetting that it was Akio, but honestly not that shocking. Next episode starts the final arc! Let's get some answers! |
| Lol @ all the sexist people calling Utena "easy" or a "whore" while lots of guys in this show can be as sexually active as they like and they're not pushed down with such insults |
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| I still believe Utena was just naive enough to lose her virginity... It's sad, but believable for many young women. Some guys just have no remorse to take things away from others. I wonder if she will gain some insights after this and start to realize what is going on as she sheds her naivete? |
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| Such a cleverly composed episode, and highly messed up. Utena is being played by the Anthys. Also, it takes talent to make a 5 minute monologue about what you are going to make for breakfast that interesting and full of subtext. Also delivered perfectly. One of the more memorable scenes of the entire show so far for me. I was totally fascinated by it. |
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| Great episode. Well structured, with perfect image composition once again. Utena was really cute, the recaps put things in perspective, and she had good natural fun with the only guy in the show she had a crush on. Nothing wrong with that. And it doesn't mean she's naive or will become a puppet. Now that End of the World and Utena are together, I wonder if any revolution is going to take place, or what kind. Couldn't help but feel some sort of tension from Anthy. She does Akio's biddings, but I kind of expect her own will will come into play later on. neontaster said: It was a mesmerizing scene. Also, it takes talent to make a 5 minute monologue about what you are going to make for breakfast that interesting and full of subtext. Also delivered perfectly. One of the more memorable scenes of the entire show so far for me. I was totally fascinated by it. "-- Did you get the roses? -- Sure did." lol |
EratiKMay 4, 2013 12:55 AM
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| argh this show is repetitive at the best of times. If it wasn't so repetitive I've watch it more regularly and not need the recaps -_-' |
| Utena had sex with someone. Big deal. That doesn't change who she is or make her stupid. |
| That bit of dialogue Utena had at the end about what to make for lunch was one of the greatest bits I've seen in any anime.... Salmon(Fish)..... Asparagus.... Mayonnaise.... Mash hard boiled eggs... I'm sure you guys can put 2+2 together. In any case there was SO much symbolism and subtext in this episode as usual. I might need to re-watch this whole series one day to catch what I missed. And for those of you who didn't realize (I didn't realize til now), Utena was being raped; it wasn't exactly consensual. |
BullsNBears93Jan 26, 2014 11:38 PM
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SharifEbeefE said: In any case there was SO much symbolism and subtext in this episode as usual. I might need to re-watch this whole series one day to catch what I missed. And for those of you who didn't realize (I didn't realize til now), Utena was being raped; it wasn't exactly consensual. If she was raped, then why didn't she resist Akio either during the act or while they were in the car? Seemed pretty consensual to me. The line at the end, "I never expected we'd end up doing what we did.", also points to the same conclusion. |
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spyrocoot said: SharifEbeefE said: In any case there was SO much symbolism and subtext in this episode as usual. I might need to re-watch this whole series one day to catch what I missed. And for those of you who didn't realize (I didn't realize til now), Utena was being raped; it wasn't exactly consensual. If she was raped, then why didn't she resist Akio either during the act or while they were in the car? Seemed pretty consensual to me. The line at the end, "I never expected we'd end up doing what we did.", also points to the same conclusion. did you not see the multiple "stops" in the road? also, akio is like five hundred. utena is 14. she can't consent. |
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little-flower said: spyrocoot said: SharifEbeefE said: In any case there was SO much symbolism and subtext in this episode as usual. I might need to re-watch this whole series one day to catch what I missed. And for those of you who didn't realize (I didn't realize til now), Utena was being raped; it wasn't exactly consensual. If she was raped, then why didn't she resist Akio either during the act or while they were in the car? Seemed pretty consensual to me. The line at the end, "I never expected we'd end up doing what we did.", also points to the same conclusion. did you not see the multiple "stops" in the road? also, akio is like five hundred. utena is 14. she can't consent. What, you mean in the final scene of the episode when Akio and Utena are in the car? If so, then no, I can't say I did. Wanna help me out? You're viewing it for your second time, so obviously you're probably seeing things that I didn't my first time round. True enough, Utena is 14 while Akio is around 500, but age of consent is different in each country. Some countries have it as low as 12. I'm pretty sure Germany's is 14, but I digress. If by rape you mean statutory rape (sex with minors), then yeah, possibly. In the traditional sense though, no, I don't think Utena was raped. Sure, she didn't look like she wanted to do it, but she didn't put up a huge amount of resistance either. She was even in the same car as Akio afterwards. If I'm missing something, then please go ahead and correct me. Utena is a very ambiguous series with a lot of symbolism that is likely to go over your head during the first viewing, so I'm not going to pretend that I have all the answers. |
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| ^ Those stops could've been directed to herself just as much as Akio (I'd need to rewatch too to be sure). She had spent her life denying her femininity after all, but had gradually allowed herself to be seduced. |
Blackouting said: ^ Those stops could've been directed to herself just as much as Akio (I'd need to rewatch too to be sure). She had spent her life denying her femininity after all, but had gradually allowed herself to be seduced. Do the symbols on the road after Utena says "what is eternity?" say "stop"? Translator didn't put that in in the version I'm watching, which would explain the confusion. |
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| I don't know I'm just going by what he said! |
Anelis said: lmao!Utena lost her virginity in a recap episode....precious! |
| I feel betrayed. Kind of. :I |
| Shit. I was expecting it to happen for a while now, but that didn't make it any easier to watch. Though I find it hilarious that such an important scene was put in a recap episode. |
| Welp, good for Akio. I have no idea what to think of the direction the plot is taking during these last episodes. I think it all will find its place in the puzzle eventually though. |
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