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Apr 25, 2009 6:31 AM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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I felt so sorry for Jury in this episode.

 
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Aug 29, 2009 11:48 AM

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My favorite episode and my favorite character. I used to think Shiori was evil but I didn't see that during this re-watch.
 
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Nov 12, 2010 8:00 AM

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Ohoh? Miki seemed to get extreeeemely embarrassed at Nanami's question
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Mar 16, 2011 12:28 PM

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Pheefa said:
Ohoh? Miki seemed to get extreeeemely embarrassed at Nanami's question


Well it definitely looked like his sister was trying to make out with him in that episode.

I really like Jury as a character, so all the episodes focusing her are just awesome.
 
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Jul 4, 2011 2:54 PM

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I personally don't like Jury and her story, so, this episode for me was boring.
 
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Jul 5, 2011 8:48 PM

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Fantastic episode. Sure, the battles may be getting a bit repetitive but the storytelling, as always, is magnificent. That scene with Shiori in the elevator was powerful as was the rest of the episode.

One interesting thing for me is that Utena seems to be going to Akio as a sort of confidant and, as we know, he seems to be far from trust worthy. I think this will be interesting in the future. Also, what does the pulling the sword out of a body symbolize. We've seen it throughout the series with Utena and a few others pulling it out of Anthy, as well as people currently stealing abilities from those close to them.
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Nov 1, 2011 2:21 PM

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Mmhmm, the "transformation scene" before all the duels and the duels themselves are way too repetitive D: Oh well, the rest is making up for it.
I don't particularly like either Jury or Shiori, but I did enjoy looking into their thoughts and fears. I wonder what Anthy meant by "she hasn't changed". Hmm.

Utena talking to Akio about everything, surprised me too. He's going to manipulate her someway, I'm sure of it.

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Dec 31, 2011 11:32 PM

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I was wishing that Shiori would put up more of a fight (seeing as how Jury dominated Utena and she had her sword), but it wasn't even close. Anyway, why was Utena talking to Akio? Also, I wish Miki answered the question about the damn stopwatch.
 
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May 22, 2012 2:25 PM

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Hmm I didn't exactly like Shiori. Seeing Jury in this episode was interesting.
 
Jul 8, 2012 12:21 AM

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Finally, the stopwatch thing was brought up but Miki doesn't answer! Lameeee XD. /really wanted to know.

So seeing as how every Black Rose duelist gains some of the ability of the person whose sword they pulled out, doesn't that mean that Anthy must have some potential? :o However, the Prince is always descending to help Utena, she never wins her own battles anymore.
 
Aug 26, 2012 10:20 PM

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Why is there a morgue in the school?
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Sep 5, 2012 10:29 PM

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Nice to see some more development for Juri since I thought her story was pretty interesting when they introduced it in the first part of the series.

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Why is there a morgue in the school?


A morgue seems pretty reasonable when you compare it to a giant dueling arena with a floating castle inside. Plus, they mentioned something about 100 people being buried alive in that building; and body storage facilities are a must have when that happens.
 
Sep 14, 2012 3:09 PM

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Also, what does the pulling the sword out of a body symbolize. We've seen it throughout the series with Utena and a few others pulling it out of Anthy, as well as people currently stealing abilities from those close to them.

Maybe it shows that the person they pulled the sword out of is their source of power, or their reason for fighting?

I really wish Miki had answered that question about the stopwatch. :(
 
Nov 27, 2012 4:45 PM
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Decent episode.. the fights are definitely becoming too repetitive and even the scenes are mostly all the same, only good thing is that at least they're over quite quickly.
 
Feb 5, 2013 5:12 PM

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Like Jury more as a character now, but still the same formula used for the first two episodes excluding the random filler before this.
 
Feb 10, 2013 10:51 PM

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This episode made me like Juri a bit more; Understanding her venerability lets you see her stone cold mask can be deceptive.
 
Mar 30, 2013 11:38 AM
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This one was a bit boring...
 
Mar 15, 2014 5:24 PM

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One of the better episodes. Juri is a great character and the scene with the Shadow Girls was a great allegory.
 
Sep 19, 2014 3:19 PM
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Without a doubt Juri is my favorite character in this series. This episode only helped prove that when I had thought it in prior episodes detailing her backstory.
 
Dec 15, 2014 12:34 AM

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I love the Juri backstory, but I'm also a sucker for anything yuri. Juri I feel you girl! Shiori is pretty cute but she's all kind of a beezy for wanting to make her friend suffer because she was jealous of her.
 
Jan 10, 2015 2:26 PM

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Hm... I think I like Jury more after this episode. I felt bad for her when they discussed the backstory...I mean a best friend doing that must of felt terrible.
 
Mar 14, 2015 11:23 AM

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god damnit Miki.....just answer the question about the watch
 
Jul 20, 2015 7:11 AM
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Didn't expect a second episode about Jury. This was well-done.
 
Sep 17, 2015 7:45 PM

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So much drama!

4/5
 
Feb 16, 2016 11:33 AM

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I don't like Shiori one bit, hopefully she won't be appearing much.

I'm kinda notice that the scene with Utena entering the dueling arena last longer than most if not all the fights in the series xD
 
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The repetitiveness is getting excessive at this point.
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May 24, 2017 10:54 AM

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I loved this Episode. In the beginning when juri senpai was introduced, she instantly got my attention. I knew she would be an interesting character and now after watching this episode it's quite clear that she's a great character. I hope there'll be more episodes like this to come.
 
Jun 1, 2017 3:39 AM

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Best episode of the Black Rose Crest arc thus far, mostly because it tapped back into developments focusing on the core cast rather than a side character I barely care about: This episode was more about Jury than anything.

The situation is pretty sad and horrible all around.

Since it seems swords can be pulled out of more people than Anthy, that makes Anthy kind of special in a different sense, doesn't it? The sword within her is stronger than the swords within others.
 
Jun 20, 2017 11:54 PM

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Yes! Another Juri episode is exactly what I wanted. Too bad though this is starting to feel like a bad guy of the week kinda show. I hope the formula changes up soon or it's going to start getting dull.
 
Aug 11, 2017 8:30 AM

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Unlike Miki's sister in the last "seminar", Juri's old friend was completely unsympathetic before she got possessed by the Black Rose. It seems that she became a better person after she lost. I don't know why they're bothering at this point...Utena can kick anyone's ass.
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Aug 14, 2017 6:19 AM
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Stole the man I thought you loved and don't have any qualms about, but we broke up so can we go back to being friends again? Hopefully Juri can move one now.

Getting a bit repetitive though.

Shiori has a rather annoying voice.
 
Jan 5, 2018 3:20 PM

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That girl has some serious issues o.o

Even if Jury it's not so great herself, i hope she can forget her asap.
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Mmhmm, the "transformation scene" before all the duels and the duels themselves are way too repetitive D: Oh well, the rest is making up for it.
I don't particularly like either Jury or Shiori, but I did enjoy looking into their thoughts and fears. I wonder what Anthy meant by "she hasn't changed". Hmm.

Utena talking to Akio about everything, surprised me too. He's going to manipulate her someway, I'm sure of it.


The scenes are repetitive cause this anime its sort of a mahou shoujo lol
 
Mar 8, 2018 1:46 PM

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Yuri is a great character, one of my favorites from this show, glad to see some love for her :3

So next episode is about Tsuwabuki, I'm guessing it's filler then. Maybe not and he's the dark rose counterpart for Nanami, but I doubt it because 1. That should be Touga, and 2. I had thought he was a filler-only character (introduced in a filler episode and has only appeared in filler). Yeah, I think it's filler, besides, the Dark Rose arc would be too short if it were that way.
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Mar 29, 2018 10:23 AM
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I felt so sad for Juri :( the unreciprocal love hurts
 
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Pretty good ep, Jury's awesome, and Kotono Mitsuishi in her role is FANTASTIC! Hard to believe she's also the voice of Usagi from Sailor Moon, they're so different.
 
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Nice episode, I love Juri's development. I hope she'll become strong someday!

Also, I wonder why do the previews spoil so much? I skip all of them and watch them only after finishing the episode in the preview (i.e. I watch episode 16 preview after the episode itself) just to see how much does it give off (everything)
 
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