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| Holy, fucking, shit, that's an episode to be remembered for a long time, so many incredible scenes, the reactions from the characters in horror, surprise, fear, Harry killing Brandon in the elevator, oh god. |
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| Hell no, now she's pregnant with the old man's child. Kill me rn |
| I still can't digest that Big Daddy went "Woody Allen" on Maria, but now that Brandon is dead it looks like a pointless detail. One of the best episodes so far. The elevator scene was well-crafted and full of tension. |
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| Imagine the shockfactor without having read the synopsis and having seen episode one. That would've been one hell of a twist... almost. I can only imagine how it could've been without the explicit foreshadowing, but with that knowledge it was too easy to pick everyhting up along the way. The build up has been pretty great, tho. Harry who became determined to get rid of everyone standing in his way learned about Brandons loyality to the organisation. The former already showed what he's capable off. With an ambition and narcissism so grand, of course he wouldn't shy away from killing his former best friend. Absolutely ruthless. And how gripping and powerful the portrayal was. Two friends reminiscing about their past, who grew even more and more distant over the course of the episode, along with the melancholy in the air, that was really nicely done. |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
| I have an admittedly difficult time understanding Harry's motivation up to this point in all this. He talks about having the desire to possess everything - like money, objects, influence and such, and with that the power to give them away to whom he chooses at will. To live lavishly and pour his wealth back out into the world in the manner he sees fit. In this very episode he mentions a plan to purchase the orphanage where he and Brandon grew up in the slum to give the kids there a better life and chance at a future. And I believe him. He would do it not just out of altruism or the more direct kind of empathy, but also a sense of vanity and pride. And that's most, if not all people - there is always a certain degree of selfishness and vanity inherent to charity. Of wanting to be seen a certain way by society and being able to see yourself as a benevolent figure. For those who derive their personal sense of self-worth and elevation from the dopaminergic feedback obtained through social approval. But the point is, he would basically live large, shower Walken's daughter, the girl he's courting, with items of privilege and status, and also have a public face as a philanthropist. It isn't like he's a sadist who would just torture people for kicks or something. So what motivates this drive to carry out a coup? Because everything I described above seem like things he's able to do now. What does he want to do that he can't do in his current position? He has millions of dollars/yen/"yules". He can live in a mansion and drive fancy sports cars, marry whom he wants, and bankroll whichever organizations of his choosing even now. So what would taking the boss' position allow him to do that he doesn't already have access to? That's what I don't get or don't really see as having been detailed or explained in the dialogue so far. Maybe it will be later. This series is often compared to Berserk (I believe it's still the top corresponding recommendation) and with that Harry is compared to Griffith and the relationship between Harry and Brandon compared to that of the one between Griffith and Guts. But in Berserk, Maybe, even if on a smaller scale, it's also something Harry craved since boyhood, but if so I'd like it better explained. |
WatchTillTandavaMay 25, 2020 8:25 PM
| This was the turning point the show. Harry for no better reason kills Brandon, just because he was desperate to climb high but the biggest shock was Maria had the old man's child. I heard from now on the show will become some sci-fi terminator show but whatever I will have to see when will Brandon come back and most importantly what will become of Maria and her child. |
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| Yeah, I was expecting the betrayal, but I did not though he was the one who was going to pull the trigger. Also, it's confirmed the woman in the first episode was Maria and Big Daddy's daughter. |
| No tomo malas decisiones, solo me gusta apoyar causas perdidas. Disfruté Mayoiga, Ou-sama Game, Evil or Live, Mirai Nikki, Big Order, Arifureta, Ex-Arm, Tesla Note, Shuumatsu no Harem y Platinum End nope les falle con esa, lo siento pero todos tenemos nuestros límites. Así de jodido es mi gusto en anime, ¡Y estoy pinche orgulloso de ello!  |
| So Brandon and Harry were childhood friends. I knew they had a close relationship because of how devoted Brandon was in following Harry, but they could have done a better job of setting that up from the outset. Trigun is guilty of a similar thing I was originally going to comment that the light/dark motif in the elevator didn't work as a metaphor since Brandon and Harry are both pretty terrible people, but I wasn't expecting it to be so robust. The obvious interpretation as the scene went on was that Brandon would be going towards the light while Harry continued to live on in the darkness, but it also serves to illustrate how different they were in the end. Harry's bravado and superficial charm hid the evil within him, whereas Brandon's cold and calculating exterior concealed some degree of nobility and honour (which is also reflected through the suits they were wearing). Despite my initial criticisms, the first episode did a great job at making Brandon's fate seem more looming and ominous, even if it was at the expense of the viewer. We all knew Harry would be the one to take Brandon's life, but speculating about when he would do it really went a long way in getting me hooked on this show. I typically juggle between watching two anime at a time, but ever since this show started getting good I haven't been able to pick up anything else. I'm really excited to see where the series heads from here. |
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| Man, that elevator scene was amazing. As a whole, this anime isn't particularly spectacular but when it has its good moments, they are always amazing. |
| Actually insane episode, the best one so far imo, Harry is starting his domination plans for real now that another boss has been chosen and that it is someone random (at least for what the story showed)... and the 2nd part was incredible, how nostalgic and sad to be remembered of Harry and Brandon original story, how everything debuted as two orphans kids, their previously deceased friends and especially how Harry started to even forget about his friends because of his will of power... and the scene that happened right after that in the elevator was sure something, now it's the beginning of the truly insane Brandon we saw in EP1 I believe, basically being revived as undead by Harry for his domination plans and it won't go exactly as he planned I hope. |
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| this episode is insane, from beginning to end |
| Had to laugh at Maria getting knocked up with Big Daddy's kid. I know Advanced paternal age isn't common knowledge, so no one pays much mind to it, but when did she become attracted to him? Brandon not being remotely tempted of going along with Harry's ambition of killing Big Daddy is perplexing, at least as a way to make up for being cuckolded by a wrinkly old man. Maria even deliberately goaded Harry at one point by repeating herself about how she loved Big Daddy, then further insinuating that she was pregnant while she was caressing her belly. Brandon has to be one of the dumbest protagonists I've seen in a long time, especially for someone who is supposed to be a desensitised killer. Outside of combat, he's completely incapable of making rational or perceptive decisions, even when the writing is on the wall. I'm assuming he gets necrolyzed after this, which will at least remove that hesitancy issue he has. How he didn't shoot Harry after he realised that the two people he joined Millennion for (Maria and Harry) ditched him is beyond me. If Brandon is a person whose reticent character harbours "strong emotions", then the emotion of anger should've erupted by then with all the lethality he previously dispatched enemies to Millennion with. It's not as if he was any closer with Harry at this point than he was Maria, so dropping his gun and moping pathetically on the floor is glaringly out of character. |
  ｲ乇刀乇乃尺ﾑ乇 ㊎   ㊰☽ Shaded Horizon ☾ |
| I have wondered since episode one why Harry would betray Brandon. Now I know why. I suspected as much since Harry started to let his unholy ambitions show. |
If you are going to disagree with me, don't bother talking to me. I will seriously hurt you! |
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