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Apr 1, 2009 6:52 AM

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Vudis said:
i like how everyone complains about the costs..
i dunno how much it is in dollars but 13 euros per month is NOTHING...

Not everyone has their parents to pay for it. I've played for 4 years that means I've spent 720$ on fucking virtual time. That's not counting the purchase of the game and the first expansion.

Don't waste your time on MMORPGs kids
 
Apr 1, 2009 6:54 AM

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Avarance said:
Vudis said:
i like how everyone complains about the costs..
i dunno how much it is in dollars but 13 euros per month is NOTHING...

Not everyone has their parents to pay for it. I've played for 4 years that means I've spent 720$ on fucking virtual time. That's not counting the purchase of the game and the first expansion.

Don't waste your time on MMORPGs kids


True that.

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PvP is good beacuse they actually built a decent combat model, where you have to strategize to win where you grind uber gear and win from everyone that doesn't have such equipment, and make use of all the many tools your class has.


Fixed that up.

you are just bad


Says the guy that is incapable of comprehending any arguments nor is he capable of participating in any debates.
 
Apr 1, 2009 7:53 AM

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Also, I found a terrific article about WoW. Read it and be fair to yourself: most of it is true.
Firstly before I attempt to jump on this entertaining band-waggon of laughs and giggles I must awknowledge how awesome this link is.

I won't bother multi quoting everyone:

Reguards to dropping of your 'hard earned loot' that mechanic server as a penality and is common on several MMO's over the past 2 decades to serve as a deterant of players who aimless PK people. During PVP conflicts there has never been any loss of equipment equiped to a player.

PVP and PK are completely different things, simply put Chavez is the only one here with valid points. PVP is usually done in certain areas permitting the act such as a fortress/castle siege for example, alliance/guild/legion/faction wars. PK is when you attack or are attacked within the PvE enviroment which usually activates a different status upon the attacker. That is when the item drop mechanic comes into play.

And lastly a montly subscribtion is nothing, grow up children and get a job.

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Funny how World of Warcraft threads are prone to such debates. There's no such thing as "World PvP" in that game, it died a while ago. I've heard that Lineage II is the best MMORPG to play if you want to PvP.
Obviouosly, refer to my post on page 1 as to why that is. But for a rich PvP experience WAR (Warhammer Age of Reckoning) is doing it right though is lacking in people, last I checked it had around 300,000 subscribers.
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Apr 1, 2009 7:58 AM

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Chavez said:

Vudis said:
i like how everyone complains about the costs..
i dunno how much it is in dollars but 13 euros per month is NOTHING...


+ $20,- (world of warcraft) + $25,- (burning crusade) + $40,- (wrath of the lich king) + any future expansions (at least 3 or 4 to come).


you have to pay for normal computer games too

Avarance said:

Not everyone has their parents to pay for it. I've played for 4 years that means I've spent 720$ on fucking virtual time. That's not counting the purchase of the game and the first expansion.


my parents didnt pay for it since i work for my money
and its still nothing
you buy a computer game and pay around 40-50 euros if its a newer one
but you play through it in...well depends on the game around 1 week to 1 month if you play 2-3h a day
and that bought game you'll prob dont play for a year or so
you can play wow way longer and if you have to pay for it then be it so...its prob way cheaper as if you buy a new game every month (except its some older 10 euro game)
well if wow didnt get all boring in the past 2 years id prob continued playing
 
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BlackDeath said:

And lastly a montly subscribtion is nothing, grow up children and get a job.


THANK YOU!
 
Apr 1, 2009 8:01 AM

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PK is when you attack or are attacked within the PvE enviroment which usually activates a different status upon the attacker. That is when the item drop mechanic comes into play.


and i love it when that happens, so i dont want there to be a retarded 'deterant' to this great feature. a more effective and sensible deterant would be to remove the fucking feature completely
Almost all games have different server types so just stop complaining like a child and join a PK Server.

I don't think it is fair for high level people to PK the lower levels who are just trying to gain some levels without the PK'er being punished in someway. It is a good mechanic, if you dont like losing items don't PK in non designated areas or go play something else.
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Apr 1, 2009 8:11 AM

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BlackDeath said:
Firstly before I attempt to jump on this entertaining band-waggon of laughs and giggles I must awknowledge how awesome this link is.

I won't bother multi quoting everyone:

Reguards to dropping of your 'hard earned loot' that mechanic server as a penality and is common on several MMO's over the past 2 decades to serve as a deterant of players who aimless PK people. During PVP conflicts there has never been any loss of equipment equiped to a player.

PVP and PK are completely different things, simply put Chavez is the only one here with valid points. PVP is usually done in certain areas permitting the act such as a fortress/castle siege for example, alliance/guild/legion/faction wars. PK is when you attack or are attacked within the PvE enviroment which usually activates a different status upon the attacker. That is when the item drop mechanic comes into play.


Exactly, but I'll add the following: Attacking a player in Lineage 2 in PvE areas does give you a certain status (purple name) but does not give you karma (that what you need in a quite large amount to start dropping anything when being killed). To gain karma, you need to attack and kill the player without having him return the aggression (it's also called murder).

Vudis said:
Chavez said:

Vudis said:
i like how everyone complains about the costs..
i dunno how much it is in dollars but 13 euros per month is NOTHING...


+ $20,- (world of warcraft) + $25,- (burning crusade) + $40,- (wrath of the lich king) + any future expansions (at least 3 or 4 to come).


you have to pay for normal computer games too


Stop your whining, I never moaned about it, just showed you that $13,- is nothing compared to what you really pay. There's a lot of MMORPG's that come cheaper and offer more quality and don't require you to buy any expansion packs to keep on playing.
 
Apr 1, 2009 8:17 AM

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You didn't get my point though, look at the amount of money I've wasted after playing so many years. All that money could have been invested in something much better. Heck, you're only missing a few hundred to build a brand new rig. If you have the time and luxury to waste your money on it then go for it.
 
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the point with PvP maps is to FORCE the other player to defend themselves, that is what is so fun about them. if they are dumb enough not to attack you then they fucked up and should die for it. so 'murder' is not dishonorable in any way and should not be punished. as for low lvls, i wouldnt care about some sort of punshment there, but gear loss is pretty extreme.

edit: ok the pvp maps might be confusing, pve maps with pvp enabled i meant


You're confusing in general, you jump from one statement to another, your arguments have taken like 6 turns already and now you're sounding just like one of those weaboos that think it's rightful to be able to maul any skilled player because you got better gear by grinding for a day.

I'm pulling the line here, have fun trolling someone else.
 
Apr 1, 2009 1:37 PM

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I used to be in love with the game 3 years ago.
But lately I find I'm liking the game less and less.

PvP has never really been my thing. And the PvE content which I used to love has become easier and easier to the point where PUGs can clear them without breaking a sweat. Crowd-Control is a thing of the past for heroic 5 mans, you can virtually AoE down every trash pack. Sarth+3 10man is the only mildly difficult thing in the game.
Call me elitist, but I think there should be a certain level of instancing which your average random group or low-end guild can't clear.
Heh. At least my guild-less alts are getting geared...
 
Apr 1, 2009 1:52 PM

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I played it for about a week. It was alright. Takes up too much time.
 
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Takes up too much time.

So true, the game is a MASSIVE time sink, but only once you reach the max level. Leveling can be as casual as you like it. Theres nothing that will power down your character or erase your gear if you level like an asmatic snail.
 
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I used to be in love with the game 3 years ago.
But lately I find I'm liking the game less and less.

PvP has never really been my thing. And the PvE content which I used to love has become easier and easier to the point where PUGs can clear them without breaking a sweat. Crowd-Control is a thing of the past for heroic 5 mans, you can virtually AoE down every trash pack. Sarth+3 10man is the only mildly difficult thing in the game.
Call me elitist, but I think there should be a certain level of instancing which your average random group or low-end guild can't clear.
Heh. At least my guild-less alts are getting geared...


well its as blizzard said...why spending a hole shitload of money and time on building an instance like sunwell if only 0,5% of the players see it before nerfing it like hell so nearly every guild got through it after patch 3.0.6 or what it was
 
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Vudis said:
well its as blizzard said...why spending a hole shitload of money and time on building an instance like sunwell if only 0,5% of the players see it before nerfing it like hell so nearly every guild got through it after patch 3.0.6 or what it was


Perfectly understandable, and they'll attract more customers that way if the new players know they have a chance of seeing everything.

Its just a big e-peen deflator to know you have some of the best PvE gear available, only to see the guy next to you in <WE HNK FO FAT CHIKS> wearing exactly the same gear.

Hopefully the next patch will make 25man Ulduar difficult, so it restricts the flow of loot to some people. While certain people who don't have the skill to clear 25 mans, they can do the 10 man and still see all the content.
I really do hope Algalon the Raid Destroyer lives up to his nickname. I'm one of the few that like to 'bang their head against the wall', as the blues said.
 
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from what ive heard it should be as difficult as sunwell was at the beginning but i doubt its true
well i wont play anymore even if pve would get more difficult^^
 
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from what ive heard it should be as difficult as sunwell was at the beginning but i doubt its true
well i wont play anymore even if pve would get more difficult^^


I'm on the verge of quitting myself. If my guild manages to steamroll Ulduar 25man like a knife through hot butter, then I'm out. I'll find a new MMO to waste my money on.
 
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- PvE became meaningless when they got rid of attunement requirements for Mount Hyjal and Black Temple.

- PvP became meaningless at the end of season four, which is right before WotLK.

Those are two really good reasons to stop playing.
 
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- PvP became meaningless at the end of season four, which is right before WotLK.


Why?
 
Apr 1, 2009 5:00 PM

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If it's your first, you'll find yourself playing 10 hours straight on and still want to play. Now you'll find it repetitive if you've been playing for months.
 
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Avarance said:

- PvP became meaningless at the end of season four, which is right before WotLK.


Why?


Because if you werent one of the topped gear ppl, you would never be able to get the points to not get WTFPWNED everytime you walked into an arean.
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At the end of season 4... WOTLK came out and season 5 initially started like season 1, in the sense that no one had resil gear thus everything was burst damage. Meaning gear obtained from season 4 had no use at level 80 (well, near no use) due to the stats being far under-par.

I'll agree with you in saying that Top-End Arena is not for casual players.
 
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Arenas have always been casual friendly. The actual game right now is as casual friendly you could ever imagine which is a good thing for some people. World of Wacraft is just a piece of shit of recycled content now, yet people still play it. Arenas used to be like a game of chess, now they're just a autistic-free facerolling fest. I still have a few of my arena teammates that compete in the Arena Tournament that talk to me about it. There's too many things to add, I could write a fucking novel on this.

I'll end it here.
 
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2v2 arenas are like rock paper scissors. Your team either has the class/gear to win, or it doesnt. Plain and simple
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2v2 arenas are like rock paper scissors. Your team either has the class/gear to win, or it doesnt. Plain and simple
More like comparing penises. At least rock, paper, scissors guarantees both sides a small chance of winning.
 
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Haven't played it so I don't know :P
 
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2v2 arenas are like rock paper scissors. Your team either has the class/gear to win, or it doesnt. Plain and simple


Yep....
 
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all you do is now hanging around in dala everytime cause there is nothing to do since you get all the gear you need really fast^^

as for pve: it got boring since the first expansion
40 man raids were really hard cause sometimes it depended on 1-4 ppl if its a wipe or not^^

pvp: i havent been playing pvp very often but at least i think its better than the rank system

but really even if i wasnt bored i would have quitted...i mean what blizzard is doing with the classes is like a punch in the balls (sry ladies)
with every patch they change the classes abilities so much that sometimes you even think you are playing another class -.-
just look at the next patch details you need like 10 hours to read through it
 
Apr 2, 2009 11:25 AM

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I regret the 3 years of my life I wasted playing that game.

It is seriously a life drainer. All those stereotypes you hear about wow players are true.

While I was playing it my grades went way down, social life declined, I didnt want to do anything else but play.

But im happy I quit for good, its been 3 months now and I dont even think about wanting to play the game or log on at all. Plus, its getting really boring now I hear.
 
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The community is going down the pan fast since its becoming extremely popular.
The developers seem to realise this and design the game around the average moron who likes to do nothing but go through painfully-easy content and think they've achieved something, or spend their entire time within cities doing PvP and sitting at 1600 rating, and complaining that they keep getting their backsides kicked, while not bothering to put in the effort to get some battle-ground PvP gear to improve their chances of survival.

The people who have never played the game, or tried it for something stupidly short like one week jump on the hate bandwagon without actually trying what the main part of the game is about: the end-game content, which once used to be very fun.
The smart people who still play the game either disappear up their own backsides, causing anything they type to be spewed out onto the screen in a form of verbal daihorrea, or have become increasingly irritated and insular due to the average community moron, and start to dislike the game, causing them to quit.
The average moron numbers continue to increase like breeding rats and cause the game to become more and more bastardised just so that Blizzard Entertainment can fill their greedy pockets more by satisfying the retards.

Why do I still play the game with people and content such as this?
Because I have a lot of free time, and going out with friends every night gets expensive. This game is a massive popular time sink, but at the moment thats about all it is.

/rage
 
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The community is going down the pan fast since its becoming extremely popular.
The developers seem to realise this and design the game around the average moron who likes to do nothing but go through painfully-easy content and think they've achieved something, or spend their entire time within cities doing PvP and sitting at 1600 rating, and complaining that they keep getting their backsides kicked, while not bothering to put in the effort to get some battle-ground PvP gear to improve their chances of survival.

The people who have never played the game, or tried it for something stupidly short like one week jump on the hate bandwagon without actually trying what the main part of the game is about: the end-game content, which once used to be very fun.
The smart people who still play the game either disappear up their own backsides, causing anything they type to be spewed out onto the screen in a form of verbal daihorrea, or have become increasingly irritated and insular due to the average community moron, and start to dislike the game, causing them to quit.
The average moron numbers continue to increase like breeding rats and cause the game to become more and more bastardised just so that Blizzard Entertainment can fill their greedy pockets more by satisfying the retards.

Why do I still play the game with people and content such as this?
Because I have a lot of free time, and going out with friends every night gets expensive. This game is a massive popular time sink, but at the moment thats about all it is.

/rage


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Yeah, I like it. Too bad it burned a hole in my wallet and now I have no money left. Still wish I could play it, though.

Only problem for me playing was probably the amount of pricks on Frostmane.
 
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Rubba said:

The people who have never played the game, or tried it for something stupidly short like one week jump on the hate bandwagon without actually trying what the main part of the game is about: the end-game content, which once used to be very fun.
The smart people who still play the game either disappear up their own backsides, causing anything they type to be spewed out onto the screen in a form of verbal daihorrea, or have become increasingly irritated and insular due to the average community moron, and start to dislike the game, causing them to quit.
The average moron numbers continue to increase like breeding rats and cause the game to become more and more bastardised just so that Blizzard Entertainment can fill their greedy pockets more by satisfying the retards.


this this this
Rubba said:

Because I have a lot of free time, and going out with friends every night gets expensive.


and this
 
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Played it a few years ago for 9 months straight. I had nothing but time to kill, so it all went into the game. Got bored of it being to monotonus after a while and quit. Haven't looked back since.

Those griefing videos on youtube are pretty funny, though.
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been on and off since release. mess on my rogue every now and then.





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Apr 3, 2009 1:35 AM

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No, because it's full off kids who 'talk liek thies'.

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Apr 3, 2009 3:36 AM

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I don't like this game because it's too expensive and I wouldn't pay that much money for playing it. I played it once on private serwer but I didn't enjoy it (too much bugs). If it could be like with diablo 2 (buy and you can play battlenet) I would think about buing that game.
 
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give back eq1 pre pop with updated graphics! :)
 
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/sigh

I'm still playing this... -_-
Although I'm starting to lose all interest in it fast.

Rubba said:
The community is going down the pan fast since its becoming extremely popular.
The developers seem to realise this and design the game around the average moron who likes to do nothing but go through painfully-easy content and think they've achieved something, or spend their entire time within cities doing PvP and sitting at 1600 rating, and complaining that they keep getting their backsides kicked, while not bothering to put in the effort to get some battle-ground PvP gear to improve their chances of survival.

The people who have never played the game, or tried it for something stupidly short like one week jump on the hate bandwagon without actually trying what the main part of the game is about: the end-game content, which once used to be very fun.
The smart people who still play the game either disappear up their own backsides, causing anything they type to be spewed out onto the screen in a form of verbal daihorrea, or have become increasingly irritated and insular due to the average community moron, and start to dislike the game, causing them to quit.
The average moron numbers continue to increase like breeding rats and cause the game to become more and more bastardised just so that Blizzard Entertainment can fill their greedy pockets more by satisfying the retards.

Why do I still play the game with people and content such as this?
Because I have a lot of free time, and going out with friends every night gets expensive. This game is a massive popular time sink, but at the moment thats about all it is.

/rage


I couldn't agree with you more, that's the same reason I'm still playing at this moment.
 
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they need to bring back a more hardcore game for the real gamers.. and not this insta gratification stuff that WoW is. But then again, the companies want to make money and see where vanguard ended up, its wowified like crazy nowadays. Wich kind of sucks :(. It started out way better, even though it had tons of bugs.

 
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I don't like WoW.
Wanna hear my reasons?
 
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I don't like WoW.
Wanna hear my reasons?


True...

I´ve played Wow for almost 6 years and I stopped it....

Real life is much better... now I see it....
 
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No. Who the fuck would spend 15 dollars a month on a game? That insane, waste of money.
 
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$15 / month on a game isn't that big of a deal. It's a helluva lot cheaper than buying a new game every 2-3 months.
 
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No, because it's full off kids who 'talk liek thies'.


So does the internet...

Yes I play it and still enjoy it quite a bit. Not because of the raiding, no I did that and got burned out back in BC. Got a group of people I enjoy going around and killing things, nothing more or less.

And Hard Mode ICC 25 is still mad hard even with buff, so yes blizzard is making it easier for the casual player to go through content, but the challenging stuff is still there.
 
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Paying every month to play a game? When you already paid for the actual game? Lame. I stick to console games, so WoW has never been something I've been interested in, especially not after hearing reports of what it's done to peoples' lives.
 
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It eats souls...no seriously the guys that play it at school become zombies.
personally no I don't like it.

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Was kind of bored of it when a friend urged me to play.

Plus why should I pay-to-play every month when I already paid for the actual disc?
 
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Why bother playing spending 15 dollar a month when you can buy a lot of, decent PC games for that amount of money hey just save up money every week or month hey there might be games under 15 buck actual fun games? Better than playing on,some boring world where nothing interesting happened.
 
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