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Jan 14, 2014 9:04 AM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Well that's an interesting case.

Heh, the guilt resurfaces: http://imgur.com/QmQe6YB
Lol, I like Nice's reaction to the bomb situation. So damn calm. Murasaki is more badass though. Kinda glad Nice is able to move on though.

The ending is kinda creepy. Dem specimens..
 
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Jan 14, 2014 10:11 AM

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w. Nobu's character this ep. lol @ getting into their school and find out about missing art teacher, who saved him from bullying. BBS from the school website and actually already died. The teacher was actually the head of the bullying and acted as if he's the savior (his interest is to give others misfortune and get himself money).

Oh, that bumber came out so quick, in this ep. A student in this school.

Minimum holder that became later? by brain?
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Jan 14, 2014 11:31 AM
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Some cheesy and typical bits here and there like his deduction to find out there were six. Still really enjoyable, I love the colors as they use their powers. Seems like we're looking at our first real antagonist in the series since he's in the ED too. Good stuff.
 
 
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Jan 14, 2014 11:49 AM

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That antagonist has a few screws loose, but he seems interesting.

It's save to say, that for me Hamatora is definitely currently my favourite anime from this season.
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Jan 14, 2014 11:56 AM

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Another fun episode :D

Lol'd at the start with Birthday being thrown into jail with such an unlucky misunderstanding XD

I actually was feeling bad for the sensei with how brutal he was killed but the SOB totally deserved it lol...Loved how Theo Thanked him than starting destroying everything while bad mouthing him lol XD

Gotta love Nice and Murasaki. Their abilities are awesome. Lol'd at how he used his for lunch just to find it over budget XD And Murasaki's chimney climbing followed by a falcon punch was BA ^^

Seems we have a crazy nut as a villain. I'm liking him already. Seems like an awesome villain. Dat evil laugh XD
 
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Jan 14, 2014 11:57 AM

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the deal with the teacher!?!... everyone in this anime seems 2 have head problems that bully had some n that dude at the end... reminds me of school days endding
 
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Jan 14, 2014 12:03 PM

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This series is turning out to be really good, Miyazawa sensei what a bastard!

Hopefully they get to explain the minimum holder thing in later episodes, <3 the ED theme
 
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Jan 14, 2014 12:05 PM

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The early bit of backstory and connection between the cases was a nice surprise. I'm still confused by Nice's power, is it the power to move at the speed of sound?

@11:34 - It looks like the villain was in charge or at least was involved in whatever facility Nice and the others were tested in. Uh oh, don't tell me all those brains are from the minimum holders who didn't pass their standard.
 
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Jan 14, 2014 12:06 PM

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And another case closed. Seems like the main plot is setting in
 
 
Jan 14, 2014 12:11 PM
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that bully thing with the teacher was so lame and predictable,...
 
Jan 14, 2014 12:14 PM

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Kinda creepy having all of those brains in your house. Damn that teacher. I guess he got what he deserved.
 
 
Jan 14, 2014 12:42 PM

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Good episode. Funny how Birthday got locked up in the beginning. The teacher was a dick happy he died. From this episode I can tell that Nice can manipulate sound. Still don't know what Murasaki can do. Maybe his ability is to be cool as hell when he takes off his glasses. Nice giving Theo the bad was the best part in the episode for me. Dude with all the brains in his house can't be the bad guy. Don't believe it? Anyway Can't wait for the next episode.
 
Jan 14, 2014 12:42 PM

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Love the characters and the animation. Decent enough plot with this episode as well. Evil teacher! lol. For me this is the best of the newbies so far this season.
 
Jan 14, 2014 12:48 PM

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The case was boring and predictable. Still I hope it gets better now that we have thay guy stealing brains and so.

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Jan 14, 2014 12:49 PM
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This show is so horribly written it makes me want to barf. The antagonist's motivation and plan was laughable and the way how everything got resolved was awefully convenient and hamfisted with the Minimum Holder concept being more of a cheap plot gimmick than an actually interesting power. What set Darker than Black apart wasn't the character's various unique powers but how it incorporated these special traits to tell compelling and actually well-written stories.

There's a severe lack of tension for the majority of the episode (the hollow phrases the characters were sprouting from time to time like "Be yourself" or "It's not so bad to live a lie" certainly didn't help) and the concluding scene that was supposed to be Theo's emotional farewell to his teacher was simply cringe-worthy, one of many occasions with horrible voiceacting despite this cast being composed of widely popular VAs (though I guess that's more because of the script they have to comform to than the actors` capabilities themselves).

Furthermore, this show falls short even on a technical level. It's only the second episode and there are already various cases of deformed faces and and derpy character design, the CG backgrounds used for the interiors which seem to aim for a stylish flair just look ugly and awkwardly inserted most of the time and the action scenes are still as short and unimpressive as they were last week. If I wanted to watch the eye-grating special effects used for them I could just change the colour settings of my video player. So far the only truly stylish aspects are still concentrated in the OP/ED.
 
Jan 14, 2014 12:49 PM

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love this ep as well. was the villian seiyuu, ono yuuki...

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that bully thing with the teacher was so lame and predictable,...


really? i was surprised though... I like the twist. but I hope seo wouldn't become twisted of the reality.
 
 
Jan 14, 2014 12:57 PM
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Ew...taking people's brains out and putting them inside your house, calling them your lovers o_o needing the brains of minimum holders in order to become a minimum holder...how did people find that out. The storytelling of this anime hasn't been anything special, but the action scenes are fun to watch. I wish the villains didn't have to seem so crazy or insane though. At least that's how it seems so far.
 
Jan 14, 2014 12:59 PM

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So, investigating a teacher who disappears for something huh, until he was some kind of ringleader for the group of six people. Well I guessed that was leaked and Kojima wanted to end his life. Damn Murasaki and Nice made a great Duo for finishing up the teacher's case.

Well another good episode, though it looks like a set up one.

 
Jan 14, 2014 1:07 PM
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Murasaki's punch was the best thing here but the time acceleration power and the guy spam clicking the stopwatch was the dumbest thing yet.


The villain's reveal with the brain jars did nothing for me.
 
Jan 14, 2014 1:19 PM

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The main plot that's being set up looks kind of cool but these self-contained mysteries are boring and feel rushed.
 
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Interesting episode once again. Loved the action scenes especially those colour vibes. Love the opening and ending - it just pumps me up. Well the truth always hurts 'ya know. Defi my fave anime right now. Can't wait for next week!
 
Jan 14, 2014 1:38 PM
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Nice episode. The pages that were using looked like 4chan.

Poor guy:
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Jan 14, 2014 1:38 PM

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Like that OP and the song is by livetune + Galileo Galilei.

That student with the ability to fast forward time was completely stupid. And I don't mean just the student, I mean the power as well.
 
 
Jan 14, 2014 1:59 PM

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Horrible teacher. Glad he got what he deserve. Dat baseball bashing. Ah so that's the guy who kills Minimum Holders. Thankfully Murasaki threw the bomb before Nice used his powers. Otherwise that guy would have seen him : O
 
Jan 14, 2014 2:23 PM

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So the guy they bumped into was the serial killer, interesting. Rest of the episode was meh, 3/5.
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Jan 14, 2014 2:31 PM

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Boring episode, even when it ends with a serial killer in love with brains...






 
Jan 14, 2014 3:08 PM

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I saw the teacher being the ringleader coming, but some other parts of the case were a little unexpected. It was also a little obvious that guy he bumped into would be important. What kind of background character has that kind of crazy hairstyle?
 
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What an interesting hobby he got going on there.
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man most of the cast here are so mentally crazy that even Izaya from Durarara seems like a normal guy comparing to them XD brain collector it reminded me Psycho pass :P

The story was pretty predictable, but still fun. It kinda sucks that we had the same cast from the prev ep, Koneko and Hajime haven't got their time to shine :P

It is interesting that author must have some kind of strong resentment against people who can't decide for themselves, dont have their own will. Though this happens often in anime but here the author presents it by completely ridiculing people like that, making them stupid, unable to function in life, unable to live outsid of lie

First we got rich boy who followed his fathers without any objection until realizing his father was perverted pedo, leaving kid mentally crashed without realising what to do now?

Then we have two good school kids, who followed all rules properly which turned them into other toys, stucking blindly to live in a lie

Then bomber(though a bit different) who thought doing what others do always is good, so he can bully others, without setting his own priorities
 
 
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man most of the cast here are so mentally crazy that even Izaya from Durarara seems like a normal guy comparing to them XD


So true xD
 
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last week i said i liked this anime but this weeks episode was WEAK. it was soo predictable and the damn colors every time they use theitr minimum ability are starting to annoy me.

it was a boring episode because it was sooo predictable and the action is just meh at this point.

2/5 not good!
 
Jan 14, 2014 6:13 PM

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Way better than the first episode. It felt a little rushed but fine.
 
 
Jan 14, 2014 6:22 PM

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whats with Nice's band aids??? they just make him look like an idiot

those colors are hurting my eyes....
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Jan 14, 2014 6:37 PM

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I enjoyed this episode but it wasn't something special...We are still in the beggining so those 2-3 episodes must be setup episodes...We saw the serial killer and his interesting hobby...

I have a feeling next episode gonna be better

One of my favs this season...I like Nice and his ability so much..
 
Jan 14, 2014 7:13 PM

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btr than the first episode, but stil zzz.

Looks like the main plot is coming tho?
 
Jan 14, 2014 8:11 PM

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Fucked up ending 0_0
 
Jan 14, 2014 8:35 PM

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aaaand here comes the cray.
 
Jan 14, 2014 8:49 PM

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12 Episodes?!?! (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ WHY. I love this series (╥﹏╥) The end part about the Minimum Holder's Brain was just downright creepy and disturbing.
 
Jan 14, 2014 8:56 PM

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i really like the animation.. and koneko seems likable..

 
 
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And finally we get the ball rolling onto our first major arc.

Hmm I feel like the first episode was actually better. Must be because I watched this right after that awesome episode 14 of Tokyo Ravens?
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-----Cons-----
1. Birthday = jackass, prick, reckless

2. Nice = hyper with high pitch guy voice, which comes across as annoying

3. Super powers = predictable, not even buying it one bit. Seen better

4. Story = there is no main story. It's all episodic and ends as soon as the episode ends. Not a deep series at all. Although a main story seems to be unfolding at the end of each episode, the pace to the main story is just terrible

5. This Show = 'monster of the week' vibe, stories end fast & don't last. So predictable that THE HEROS WILL ALWAYS WIN AT THE END OF EVERY EPISODE JUST LIKE Ep 1 & 2.

-----Pros-----
1. The first 37 seconds of the OP song was so beautiful that it made me cry man tears. Such a beautiful song.
2. Voice acting, music, graphics are top grade

-----Verdict-----
-even though the OP song was so awesome and the VA, music and graphics were great, I can't get past how shitty Birthday and how annoying Nice are, superpowers and this show are way too predictable, and the story doesn't last long enough past an episode

-hope u other people enjoy this series. I'm definitely off this train. I rather watch me some ImoCho, Sakura Trick or Engaged to the Unidentified instead of this Hamtaro shit

Ep2: -0/10
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Jan 14, 2014 9:35 PM

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I felt like I enjoyed this episode more than the first, it didn't make me want to fall asleep as much.
Ew brains.
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Jan 14, 2014 9:41 PM

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I either think this is turning out brilliantly or terribly. I can't tell. :/

Hopefully the former. But I have such mixed feelings about the protagonist and the story so far.
 
Jan 14, 2014 10:09 PM

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That case and the antagonists were lame as hell. At least the ending was sort of interesting.
 
 
Jan 14, 2014 10:51 PM

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pretty good ep, i liked it. i like the i mystery per episode layout too (no annoying cliffhangers). they slowly showed more of the characters (mostly just nice's) past and the brain collecting thing was predictable since the victims from those murders had missing brains.

btw, loving the OP song~
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Jan 14, 2014 11:12 PM

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The main plot that's being set up looks kind of cool but these self-contained mysteries are boring and feel rushed.

Yeah, this Minimum Holder killer is only things,which keeps my interest on show.
 
Jan 14, 2014 11:15 PM

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wow, so much happening this episode. i kind of liked ep.1 more. but the white-haired guy (who i guess is going to be a major antagonist) seems interesting.
 
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This show is so horribly written it makes me want to barf. The antagonist's motivation and plan was laughable and the way how everything got resolved was awefully convenient and hamfisted with the Minimum Holder concept being more of a cheap plot gimmick than an actually interesting power. What set Darker than Black apart wasn't the character's various unique powers but how it incorporated these special traits to tell compelling and actually well-written stories.

There's a severe lack of tension for the majority of the episode (the hollow phrases the characters were sprouting from time to time like "Be yourself" or "It's not so bad to live a lie" certainly didn't help) and the concluding scene that was supposed to be Theo's emotional farewell to his teacher was simply cringe-worthy, one of many occasions with horrible voiceacting despite this cast being composed of widely popular VAs (though I guess that's more because of the script they have to comform to than the actors` capabilities themselves).

Furthermore, this show falls short even on a technical level. It's only the second episode and there are already various cases of deformed faces and and derpy character design, the CG backgrounds used for the interiors which seem to aim for a stylish flair just look ugly and awkwardly inserted most of the time and the action scenes are still as short and unimpressive as they were last week. If I wanted to watch the eye-grating special effects used for them I could just change the colour settings of my video player. So far the only truly stylish aspects are still concentrated in the OP/ED.


I don't know why you think this, but I thought the action scenes were sufficient and beautifully animated. I happen to think the stylish flair of the show is rather refreshing and a good addition to my weekly watch list. Also, maybe the creators are trying to give off the detective job type feel for the show instead of pointless action every week which I hope is the case.

However, I do agree with you about this episode being poorly written. I lost interest halfway through and was checking when the episode was going to be over instead of enjoying every minute like last week. The plan was thought out wrong and they shouldn't make it feel like the "minimum holders" are going to solve each case this easily.

I did like how the villian was portrayed and i'm excited to see how this story progresses next week and on.
 
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that fcking teacher >.<
nice OP and ED
another Ilegal Minimums :o
 
 
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Eudaimonia said:
This show is so horribly written it makes me want to barf. The antagonist's motivation and plan was laughable and the way how everything got resolved was awefully convenient and hamfisted with the Minimum Holder concept being more of a cheap plot gimmick than an actually interesting power. What set Darker than Black apart wasn't the character's various unique powers but how it incorporated these special traits to tell compelling and actually well-written stories.

There's a severe lack of tension for the majority of the episode (the hollow phrases the characters were sprouting from time to time like "Be yourself" or "It's not so bad to live a lie" certainly didn't help) and the concluding scene that was supposed to be Theo's emotional farewell to his teacher was simply cringe-worthy, one of many occasions with horrible voiceacting despite this cast being composed of widely popular VAs (though I guess that's more because of the script they have to comform to than the actors` capabilities themselves).

Furthermore, this show falls short even on a technical level. It's only the second episode and there are already various cases of deformed faces and and derpy character design, the CG backgrounds used for the interiors which seem to aim for a stylish flair just look ugly and awkwardly inserted most of the time and the action scenes are still as short and unimpressive as they were last week. If I wanted to watch the eye-grating special effects used for them I could just change the colour settings of my video player. So far the only truly stylish aspects are still concentrated in the OP/ED.


I don't know why you think this, but I thought the action scenes were sufficient and beautifully animated. I happen to think the stylish flair of the show is rather refreshing and a good addition to my weekly watch list. Also, maybe the creators are trying to give off the detective job type feel for the show instead of pointless action every week which I hope is the case.

However, I do agree with you about this episode being poorly written. I lost interest halfway through and was checking when the episode was going to be over instead of enjoying every minute like last week. The plan was thought out wrong and they shouldn't make it feel like the "minimum holders" are going to solve each case this easily.

I did like how the villian was portrayed and i'm excited to see how this story progresses next week and on.


The action scenes aren't too horrible by any means (at least they are actually animated unlike, say, Nobunagun), they are just unimpressive and add nothing outstanding to this show especially giving how much more proficient other anime airing this season are in this department and I seriously expect something better from a show that makes such a big deal about its own set of special powers. As to its attempts to create a stylish visual flair, well it certainly seems to try channeling an urban atmosphere but it's not very successful in my eyes for reasons I stated above.

I appreciate style to some extent but not when it's presented so poorly. There's a world of difference between what K, which also couldn't pride itself on storytelling, brought to the table in terms of style (and animation) compared to this. And I wouldn't even mind it that much if it would do a great job as a detective-story but alas it is not from my point of view so there's basically nothing for me to hold onto.
I do agree though that the last scene with the apparent final boss had some eerie soundtrack that was used to enhance the atmosphere rather well.
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