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Jan 6, 2014 6:36 AM

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Tinkyourdead said:
Lil' question here : Should I watch Achiga-hen right now or it's not really important and I could just watch it after this season is finished? Thank you.
You should probably watch Achiga now, it looks as if studio is changing source material a bit and putting in more Achiga in Zenkoku-hen. In manga, Achiga didn't even exist and the Saki-Achiga encounter happened in Achiga manga but it looked much differently - http://www.batoto.net/read/_/63306/saki-achiga-hen-episode-of-side-a_ch3_by_u-scanlations/70 and next few pages.
Only Akado (pro) and Kuro (100% ability user) noticed Saki's power. Shizu and Ako were oblivious to it. They didn't manifest a tiniest bit of special power either. They only reacted to her uniform because it was the same as Nodoka's and Shizu rememebered Koromo's words.
Spoiler from Achiga manga:

Terrible retcon.
 
Jan 6, 2014 6:52 AM

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Tinkyourdead said:
Lil' question here : Should I watch Achiga-hen right now or it's not really important and I could just watch it after this season is finished? Thank you.
You should probably watch Achiga now, it looks as if studio is changing source material a bit and putting in more Achiga in Zenkoku-hen. In manga, Achiga didn't even exist and the Saki-Achiga encounter happened in Achiga manga but it looked much differently - http://www.batoto.net/read/_/63306/saki-achiga-hen-episode-of-side-a_ch3_by_u-scanlations/70 and next few pages.
Only Akado (pro) and Kuro (100% ability user) noticed Saki's power. Shizu and Ako were oblivious to it. They didn't manifest a tiniest bit of special power either. They only reacted to her uniform because it was the same as Nodoka's and Shizu rememebered Koromo's words.
Spoiler from Achiga manga:

Terrible retcon.


Achiga is a spin-off right. did the story intertwine in this anime. arghhh... I am currently is in no mood to watch anime anymore after a full 2 days watching the first season. maybe I try the manga first. :(
 
Jan 6, 2014 6:59 AM
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Tinkyourdead said:
Lil' question here : Should I watch Achiga-hen right now or it's not really important and I could just watch it after this season is finished? Thank you.
You should probably watch Achiga now, it looks as if studio is changing source material a bit and putting in more Achiga in Zenkoku-hen. In manga, Achiga didn't even exist and the Saki-Achiga encounter happened in Achiga manga but it looked much differently - http://www.batoto.net/read/_/63306/saki-achiga-hen-episode-of-side-a_ch3_by_u-scanlations/70 and next few pages.
Only Akado (pro) and Kuro (100% ability user) noticed Saki's power. Shizu and Ako were oblivious to it. They didn't manifest a tiniest bit of special power either. They only reacted to her uniform because it was the same as Nodoka's and Shizu rememebered Koromo's words.
Spoiler from Achiga manga:

Terrible retcon.


Achiga is a spin-off right. did the story intertwine in this anime. arghhh... I am currently is in no mood to watch anime anymore after a full 2 days watching the first season. maybe I try the manga first. :(
Achiga takes place simultaneously, following a different school where the team partially consists of Nodoka's friends from when she played back in middle-school. You can see from time to time when it takes place in the timeline compared to the original series, but the vast majority of it is more alongside Zenkoku-hen rather than the first season, so yes chronologically-speaking it is more sensical to watch Achiga-hen in-between the first anime season and this one.

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HaXXspetten said:
alinet86 said:
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Tinkyourdead said:
Lil' question here : Should I watch Achiga-hen right now or it's not really important and I could just watch it after this season is finished? Thank you.
You should probably watch Achiga now, it looks as if studio is changing source material a bit and putting in more Achiga in Zenkoku-hen. In manga, Achiga didn't even exist and the Saki-Achiga encounter happened in Achiga manga but it looked much differently - http://www.batoto.net/read/_/63306/saki-achiga-hen-episode-of-side-a_ch3_by_u-scanlations/70 and next few pages.
Only Akado (pro) and Kuro (100% ability user) noticed Saki's power. Shizu and Ako were oblivious to it. They didn't manifest a tiniest bit of special power either. They only reacted to her uniform because it was the same as Nodoka's and Shizu rememebered Koromo's words.
Spoiler from Achiga manga:

Terrible retcon.


Achiga is a spin-off right. did the story intertwine in this anime. arghhh... I am currently is in no mood to watch anime anymore after a full 2 days watching the first season. maybe I try the manga first. :(
Achiga takes place simultaneously, following a different school where the team partially consists of Nodoka's friends from when she played back in middle-school. You can see from time to time when it takes place in the timeline compared to the original series, but the vast majority of it is more alongside Zenkoku-hen rather than the first season, so yes chronologically-speaking it is more sensical to watch Achiga-hen in-between the first anime season and this one.


So the anime actually happen during the tournament but with different school. Well that make sense to watch Achiga. I thought it was a different story and I was gonna ignore it for some time. Thanks for the info btw.
 
Jan 6, 2014 7:54 AM
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alinet86 said:
HaXXspetten said:
alinet86 said:
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Tinkyourdead said:
Lil' question here : Should I watch Achiga-hen right now or it's not really important and I could just watch it after this season is finished? Thank you.
You should probably watch Achiga now, it looks as if studio is changing source material a bit and putting in more Achiga in Zenkoku-hen. In manga, Achiga didn't even exist and the Saki-Achiga encounter happened in Achiga manga but it looked much differently - http://www.batoto.net/read/_/63306/saki-achiga-hen-episode-of-side-a_ch3_by_u-scanlations/70 and next few pages.
Only Akado (pro) and Kuro (100% ability user) noticed Saki's power. Shizu and Ako were oblivious to it. They didn't manifest a tiniest bit of special power either. They only reacted to her uniform because it was the same as Nodoka's and Shizu rememebered Koromo's words.
Spoiler from Achiga manga:

Terrible retcon.


Achiga is a spin-off right. did the story intertwine in this anime. arghhh... I am currently is in no mood to watch anime anymore after a full 2 days watching the first season. maybe I try the manga first. :(
Achiga takes place simultaneously, following a different school where the team partially consists of Nodoka's friends from when she played back in middle-school. You can see from time to time when it takes place in the timeline compared to the original series, but the vast majority of it is more alongside Zenkoku-hen rather than the first season, so yes chronologically-speaking it is more sensical to watch Achiga-hen in-between the first anime season and this one.


So the anime actually happen during the tournament but with different school. Well that make sense to watch Achiga. I thought it was a different story and I was gonna ignore it for some time. Thanks for the info btw.
It's basically like this: Achiga and Kiyosumi are on the opposite sides of the Nationals bracket so you can see what happens on both sides without spoiling the other very much

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Saki no-pan confirmed lol. Glad that wahaha has returned
This and the floating towels made me LOL. Who knew that Saki had it in her to go no pan in the tournament?
Literally all of them are no pan. Concept of underwear doesn't exist in 2050.

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It's basically like this: Achiga and Kiyosumi are on the opposite sides of the Nationals bracket so you can see what happens on both sides without spoiling the other very much
True but Zenkoku-hen already kinda spoiled a bit from Achiga-hen so it's probably better to watch Achiga-hen first. Also, main Saki anime likes to add small bits here and there compared to source material so the studio might incorporate some scenes from Achiga-hen.
 
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Saki no-pan confirmed lol. Glad that wahaha has returned
This and the floating towels made me LOL. Who knew that Saki had it in her to go no pan in the tournament?
Literally all of them are no pan. Concept of underwear doesn't exist in 2050.

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It's basically like this: Achiga and Kiyosumi are on the opposite sides of the Nationals bracket so you can see what happens on both sides without spoiling the other very much
True but Zenkoku-hen already kinda spoiled a bit from Achiga-hen so it's probably better to watch Achiga-hen first. Also, main Saki anime likes to add small bits here and there compared to source material so the studio might incorporate some scenes from Achiga-hen.


Though I did notice at the end with the skirt scene, I had no idea they were all nopan. I clearly haven't been paying attention.
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You can go through all manga and won't find a single panty shot. Hell, you won't even find a single shot of panties.
 
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HaXXspetten said:
alinet86 said:
HaXXspetten said:
alinet86 said:
Progeusz said:
Tinkyourdead said:
Lil' question here : Should I watch Achiga-hen right now or it's not really important and I could just watch it after this season is finished? Thank you.
You should probably watch Achiga now, it looks as if studio is changing source material a bit and putting in more Achiga in Zenkoku-hen. In manga, Achiga didn't even exist and the Saki-Achiga encounter happened in Achiga manga but it looked much differently - http://www.batoto.net/read/_/63306/saki-achiga-hen-episode-of-side-a_ch3_by_u-scanlations/70 and next few pages.
Only Akado (pro) and Kuro (100% ability user) noticed Saki's power. Shizu and Ako were oblivious to it. They didn't manifest a tiniest bit of special power either. They only reacted to her uniform because it was the same as Nodoka's and Shizu rememebered Koromo's words.
Spoiler from Achiga manga:

Terrible retcon.


Achiga is a spin-off right. did the story intertwine in this anime. arghhh... I am currently is in no mood to watch anime anymore after a full 2 days watching the first season. maybe I try the manga first. :(
Achiga takes place simultaneously, following a different school where the team partially consists of Nodoka's friends from when she played back in middle-school. You can see from time to time when it takes place in the timeline compared to the original series, but the vast majority of it is more alongside Zenkoku-hen rather than the first season, so yes chronologically-speaking it is more sensical to watch Achiga-hen in-between the first anime season and this one.

So the anime actually happen during the tournament but with different school. Well that make sense to watch Achiga. I thought it was a different story and I was gonna ignore it for some time. Thanks for the info btw.
It's basically like this: Achiga and Kiyosumi are on the opposite sides of the Nationals bracket so you can see what happens on both sides without spoiling the other very much

The whole translated ladder of the nationals here: http://i.imgur.com/iUhmt.jpg
(translated by arsonal@MAL). Looking over this should help your confusion.

 
Jan 6, 2014 2:00 PM

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Tinkyourdead said:
Lil' question here : Should I watch Achiga-hen right now or it's not really important and I could just watch it after this season is finished? Thank you.
No, its not important. Maybe not watching Achiga-hen first will make Zenkoku-hen more interesting since there is spoiler in Achiga-hen.
 
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Tinkyourdead said:
Lil' question here : Should I watch Achiga-hen right now or it's not really important and I could just watch it after this season is finished? Thank you.


Definitely watch Achiga first. If not for the sake of their team, you'll get plenty of backstory for Nodoka! And the main continuity here will eventually take things farther than Achiga.

It's a spinoff, but you can make your own opinion of it. Be wary of the Achiga haters. There seem to be many around here.
 
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I'm so happy Saki is back. I've been waiting for this since the last season ended. I would love for Kiyosumi to win the nationals but more importantly, I want to see what happens when Saki finally sees her sister again. They talked about it so much in the first season, I was so disappointed that they never met there. Plus, with the Achiga girls wanting to see Nodoka so badly. This will definitely be an interesting season.

I'm also happy to see Kanbara this season. Love her 'wahaha'.
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Yuuki's stuffed animal doesn't seem to change expressions with her anymore :(
 
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MagicFlier said:
HaXXspetten said:
alinet86 said:
HaXXspetten said:
alinet86 said:
Progeusz said:
Tinkyourdead said:
Lil' question here : Should I watch Achiga-hen right now or it's not really important and I could just watch it after this season is finished? Thank you.
You should probably watch Achiga now, it looks as if studio is changing source material a bit and putting in more Achiga in Zenkoku-hen. In manga, Achiga didn't even exist and the Saki-Achiga encounter happened in Achiga manga but it looked much differently - http://www.batoto.net/read/_/63306/saki-achiga-hen-episode-of-side-a_ch3_by_u-scanlations/70 and next few pages.
Only Akado (pro) and Kuro (100% ability user) noticed Saki's power. Shizu and Ako were oblivious to it. They didn't manifest a tiniest bit of special power either. They only reacted to her uniform because it was the same as Nodoka's and Shizu rememebered Koromo's words.
Spoiler from Achiga manga:

Terrible retcon.


Achiga is a spin-off right. did the story intertwine in this anime. arghhh... I am currently is in no mood to watch anime anymore after a full 2 days watching the first season. maybe I try the manga first. :(
Achiga takes place simultaneously, following a different school where the team partially consists of Nodoka's friends from when she played back in middle-school. You can see from time to time when it takes place in the timeline compared to the original series, but the vast majority of it is more alongside Zenkoku-hen rather than the first season, so yes chronologically-speaking it is more sensical to watch Achiga-hen in-between the first anime season and this one.

So the anime actually happen during the tournament but with different school. Well that make sense to watch Achiga. I thought it was a different story and I was gonna ignore it for some time. Thanks for the info btw.
It's basically like this: Achiga and Kiyosumi are on the opposite sides of the Nationals bracket so you can see what happens on both sides without spoiling the other very much

The whole translated ladder of the nationals here: http://i.imgur.com/iUhmt.jpg
(translated by arsonal@MAL). Looking over this should help your confusion.


No confusion for me now that I have finished watching Achiga. lol for the spoiler. now we know who gonna fight at the final. at least we know 3 of them already. :D
awesome can't wait but what with only 13 ep. arghhh..... I think this will be another cliffhanger. :(
 
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I would love for Kiyosumi to win the nationals but more importantly, I want to see what happens when Saki finally sees her sister again.


I don't think we even got to see it in the manga yet. So if we're lucky we'll get to see that fateful encounter in a couple of years >_< Wahaha.
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I would love for Kiyosumi to win the nationals but more importantly, I want to see what happens when Saki finally sees her sister again.


I don't think we even got to see it in the manga yet. So if we're lucky we'll get to see that fateful encounter in a couple of years >_< Wahaha.

Makes me wonder how many chapters the finals will make up. XD
Right now, it seems for each player for the semi-finals in the manga go as far as 6 chapters each match. So weill probably have to wait 18 months for the 3 remaining matches to see the finals start in the manga if it remains a monthly release...

 
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The prequel and the spinoff series were mediocre sports shows at the very best but since I've seen them I might just as well keep watching.
Ep. 1 wasn't exciting either. It might turn out better though when the actual games start, we'll see.
 
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Totally watching this for the mahjong... lol...

So is there a female archetype that this anime hasn't done yet? Lmao.

Was also wondering why Saki was wearing a long skirt, back in Achiga, I guess that explains why.

Also ew at the priest girl made purposely for lolicons.
 
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all i want is blood and achiga beaten into a pulp by kiyosumi and shiraitodai winning the nationals for teru getting a threepeat championship achiga and kiyosumi can win when teru graduates high school btw i couldn't careless about the other teams i didn't mention cause they're too damn boring and besides they look like clamp characters for god's sake its annoying why the hell do they look so damn thin? maybe they're really clamp fucking characters?
 
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Soooo are the Miyamori girls the secondary protagonists?
 
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all i want is blood and achiga beaten into a pulp by kiyosumi and shiraitodai winning the nationals for teru getting a threepeat championship achiga and kiyosumi can win when teru graduates high school btw i couldn't careless about the other teams i didn't mention cause they're too damn boring and besides they look like clamp characters for god's sake its annoying why the hell do they look so damn thin? maybe they're really clamp fucking characters?


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the anime is finally here :)

so Saki does sense the power of the Achiga girls, I guess trying to show they are a strong team...
 
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Oh Saki, how I've waited for thee <3

Ok so I'm just super excited for more mahjong and moeness! :D

Nice to see all the teams being introduced. Gotta love Saki's myriad of characters.
Which reminds me I have to actually watch Achiga-hen sometime.

Waiting for the awesome mahjong battles to come *_*

(Is it really only 1-cour? D: Guess they're not covering the semis...)
 
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To those who answered me (HaXXspetten, mianghuei, Progeusz, Faiyez, Renfire), thank you, very much appreciated. Considering everything that was said, I will try marathoning Achiga-hen.
 
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How is Saki manga? Is it still in semi final?Are they still in vanguard,sergeant,lieutenant,vice captain or captain?
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Soooo are the Miyamori girls the secondary protagonists?

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And that Hisa x Mihoko bit in the ED. OTP.


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Terrible retcon.

There was no retcon. Ritz Kobayashi is involved in the production of all manga and anime series. The Saki–Achiga encounter is all a matter of perspective. Recall that Saki also has the ability to gauge the strength of players, albeit not as accurately as her sister. All she knows is that Shizuno has some sort of hidden ability and not her friendly personality. As a result, her view of Shizuno is different from what we know her to be.

I'm glad Gokumi redrew the opening ceremony to correct the mistake in the first series and Blu-ray of labeling this tournament as the 89th Inter High.

It seems they've also put a voice actor for Mayuko Tajihi in this episode. I hope we get more backstory to her in the future.
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MOAR!!

So they still don't wear undies huh.
 
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Finally, an S2, been 5 years. But wait, 13 Eps? Well, considering what's happening in the manga right now, I guess that's enough to cover that.
 
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They changed Nodoka's hair style. Also, I prefer Saki in short skirt. Why they change these?
 
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Awesome! Glad I watched (at least 8 episodes) Achiga-hen before this episode. It made the scene where they passed each other in the hallway WAY funnier.
 
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They changed Nodoka's hair style. Also, I prefer Saki in short skirt. Why they change these?

These changes were made in the manga, so it's not an anime-specific change.
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Well it's finally time to continue the series where I don't know what's going on half of the time but still pulls me in and keeps me watching. I'm guessing the team Saki passed by was from that other season, I should probably get to that eventually since I'll be out of the loop on any references to it.

Looking forward to how these nationals shape up, so many contenders. Also that announcer Kouko is really hyper and funny, hope to hear her throughout the season.
 
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get the BDs, bath scene has less fog
 
Apr 24, 2014 6:21 AM

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An interesting, cute and especially great start of this last season of Saki! So well let's see what this last season will present us with!
 
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Glad it was worth the wait for BD.. the fog is just annoying.
Nodoka's hair is nice but.. why change Saki's mini skirt ? Looks a little weird.
I was hoping for a two cour but too bad. I want more moe mahjong.
 
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And after the enjoyable Achiga-hen, is time to go back to the main cast! Loved to see everyone back, including the characters from other schools (Butler still best!)

Calm episode, classic fanservice (now with levitating towels) and lots of hype.

I have to make a confession tho, I honestly started the Saki series due to Kasumi Iwato's character, I loved how she looked, I can't wait to see her in action!
 
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