Monogatari Series: Second Season
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| Well that is an ending for a season. I did not see anything in that last 2 minutes of the episode coming. Kaiki is died I presume so will there be another season since the name "ms.ougi" was hinted at the end. Overall a fantastic season I loved it. Great season!!! |
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| Can't believe Kaiki is done...what an ending. What a story. Who is this mr. Ougi...can't wait till next season. Whenever that is...I'll be waiting! |
| Damn it! Kaiki is one of my favourite characters ever, why that had to happen to him? I wish so badly that he comes back somehow, just bring a ghost or whatever damn it :P Loved the episode besides that, was thinking about what would happen after she said he was lying, and turned out to be pretty sweet hehe |
| this was definitely my favorite anime this year and after an ending like that I don't know how I'm going to be able to wait 2+ years for final season hopefully kizu comes out next year to hold me so I don't have to read the light novels. |
| What in the world..... What's up with characters suddenly dying/disappearing this season, first Mayoi, and now Kaiki, in previous 3 seasons of Monogatari, nobody died as I remember right. Anyway, pretty good last episode, except for Kaiki's death, just too surprising, got killed by a random kid lol. |
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gregory31 said: WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF W.T.F NUFF SAID. My thoughts exactly. Forget Nadeko, Ougi is the real snake in this story. |
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| lol Kike is dead now hope for a new season i realy like this anime 9/10 |
| KAIKI NOOOOO DON'T YOU DO DIS TO ME YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTARD |
| Uuuuuugh those CG snakes. As much as I love Shaft's surrealistic backgrounds and Monogatari's character designs, the animation had been pretty subpar. In any case, ep was pretty damn good: Keiki kept on delivering till the end. I loved that the part when he said to Nadeko that Araragi was repleacable, not something you would imagine to hear in a harem show. Time to tackle the novels. |
mugi said: tankoubon-feind said: so I don't have to read the light novels. You should if you can. I definitely plan on reading them after they've all been animated and going back and reading the ones ive already seen in anime form but the monogatari I know and love is the combination of shinbo akiyuki's amazing direction, beautiful scenery, amazing voice acting, and a host of other things that a novel couldn't give me when I experience final season for the first time I want to watch it the way shaft intended first. |
Pyro32 said: What's with all the negatives on the visuals? this is SHAFT they are pretty well known for over doing their budgets so last few episodes are always down in quality. True that Shaft is known for their "unique" animation styles. But this episode was pretty bad for their standards. It's definitely not as bad as episode 10 of bake or Mami's empty room on TV Madoka magica but still.. |
mugi said: D5 said: hpulley said: How can Kaiki narrate his own death, eh? Hmm... think about that... He totally bribed someone in hell, remember he said that he made some "pocket change".... Or, he is just deceiving us about his mortality. Going by his original appearance, I would say he's a vampire as well. Oh God,I'd be happy as hell if this would be true. I don't want Kaiki dead. |
| somehow I hope for a revival of kaiki.... or he's not really dead. either way. good season |
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| Why!!? did Kaiki have to die :'( |
| Kaiki always has a plan up his sleeve. He is going to be back, the only question is when... |
| With the Second Season over, the only thing we can do is wait till Hana or Kizu, does anyone have any news on Hana besides 2014? |
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| My heart jumped when Kaiki got hit. I didn't see that coming, and I thought it was Oshino for a second since he was talking about him before he got hit. But I'm 99% that Kaiki is not dead. Remember what he said in the first episode of this arc. I'm not gonna lie, I'm disappointed with this finale. My expectations were pretty damn high and I thought this arc in particular would have a grand exciting closure. Or a sudden involvement of a character. I was really shocked with animation quality. The snake CG looked ugly, I guess they will be fixed in the BDs. But man, I had a completely different idea of this arc, when I read the novel readers comments and what they were trying to imply. Even reading the synopsis of Koimonogatari gave me completely different expectations. Bakemonogatari's ending was better. I'm super excited about the possibility of Kizumonogatari happening in 2014. I think it will live up to the hype and I love me some Oshino and Adult Shinbou. Having said that, this is still the anime of the year hands down. I would have loved to give this 10/10 but nonetheless it still made it to my favorites 9/10. I'm gonna really miss my weekly dosage of Monogatari, I feel a bit empty :/. But I'm planning to re-watch the BDs and start all the way from Bakemonogatari. I'm getting goosebumps just think about all the fun that I'm gonna have. |
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| kaiki pls dont die qq, glad nadeka let herself be deceived though and I'm really curious as to who Ougi is now. |
| Okay, glad I'm not the only one who thought that the visual presentation and the animation were quite horrendous during this episode. I actually started laughing a bit when those snakes flowed down like some shitty animated waterfall. But that aside, that was a really good episode. It gave us a pretty nice finish to this fantastic arc. Nadeko finally got her very own closure, just as Tsubasa and Mayoi during this season. Lastly, after reading through this thread, I came to the conclusion that it was a fucking great idea of Shaft to broadcast Hana last. Oh well... So Hana probably spring 2014 as 4 OVA episodes? And Kizu 2019? |
V0ltgDec 28, 2013 4:06 PM
| For people asking if Kaiki is dead or not... |
| “Right is right even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong even if everyone is doing it.” ― Saint Augustine |
| Turning good cost him his life. I don't know what I will give this show. |
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YeuSwina said: Actually? Is that a joke?Spoilers for Kaiki's fate ahead. Can you confirm this? |
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Emnay said: YeuSwina said: Actually? Is that a joke?Spoilers for Kaiki's fate ahead. Can you confirm this? That's a joke...-.-" |
| “Right is right even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong even if everyone is doing it.” ― Saint Augustine |
pkKodama said: Emnay said: YeuSwina said: Actually? Is that a joke?Spoilers for Kaiki's fate ahead. Can you confirm this? That's a joke...-.-" somehow I doubt there are multiple people making the same joke |
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Emnay said: pkKodama said: Emnay said: YeuSwina said: Actually? Is that a joke?Spoilers for Kaiki's fate ahead. Can you confirm this? That's a joke...-.-" somehow I doubt there are multiple people making the same joke I can't load that actually... but if that's true....wow lol o.O You sure the link is right? |
ColtBuntlineDec 28, 2013 4:30 PM
| “Right is right even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong even if everyone is doing it.” ― Saint Augustine |
| Awesome dialogue by the man Kaiki. Shame he died at the command of a person named Ougi? I'm wondering who that is and RIP Kaiki; you will be missed. That is if the death was part of the disclaimer you made at the start of the arc... |
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Sovietcong said: Ougi is the one Nadeko talked to before becoming a god, Araragi also talked to her at the end of Shinobu Time.Awesome dialogue by the man Kaiki. Shame he died at the command of a person named Ougi? I'm wondering who that is and RIP Kaiki; you will be missed. That is if the death was part of the disclaimer you made at the start of the arc... http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131108002534/bakemonogatari1645/images/9/94/Ougi.jpg Does this ring any bells? |
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Emnay said: Sovietcong said: Ougi is the one Nadeko talked to before becoming a god, Araragi also talked to her at the end of Shinobu Time.Awesome dialogue by the man Kaiki. Shame he died at the command of a person named Ougi? I'm wondering who that is and RIP Kaiki; you will be missed. That is if the death was part of the disclaimer you made at the start of the arc... http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131108002534/bakemonogatari1645/images/9/94/Ougi.jpg Does this ring any bells? The girl sounded mad, that can't be Ougi. |
| “Right is right even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong even if everyone is doing it.” ― Saint Augustine |
pkKodama said: Emnay said: Sovietcong said: Ougi is the one Nadeko talked to before becoming a god, Araragi also talked to her at the end of Shinobu Time.Awesome dialogue by the man Kaiki. Shame he died at the command of a person named Ougi? I'm wondering who that is and RIP Kaiki; you will be missed. That is if the death was part of the disclaimer you made at the start of the arc... http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131108002534/bakemonogatari1645/images/9/94/Ougi.jpg Does this ring any bells? The girl sounded mad, that can't be Ougi. Mad? Do you mean the person who beat the crap out of Kaiki? That was not Ougi. That wasn't even a girl. |
| WTF I though everything was going to end well. Until Kaiki was went down. I thought he was shot on the head or something LMAO.... Who the heck is Ougi......... ( I know her lol ) She started this whole mess, I bet. |
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pkKodama said: It wasn't Ougi. I'm pretty sure Ougi told the junior high kid that Kaiki came back in town. And the junior high kid got deceived by Kaiki so that's the reason why he was attacked.Emnay said: Sovietcong said: Ougi is the one Nadeko talked to before becoming a god, Araragi also talked to her at the end of Shinobu Time.Awesome dialogue by the man Kaiki. Shame he died at the command of a person named Ougi? I'm wondering who that is and RIP Kaiki; you will be missed. That is if the death was part of the disclaimer you made at the start of the arc... http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131108002534/bakemonogatari1645/images/9/94/Ougi.jpg Does this ring any bells? The girl sounded mad, that can't be Ougi. |
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huuuh said: pkKodama said: Emnay said: Sovietcong said: Ougi is the one Nadeko talked to before becoming a god, Araragi also talked to her at the end of Shinobu Time.Awesome dialogue by the man Kaiki. Shame he died at the command of a person named Ougi? I'm wondering who that is and RIP Kaiki; you will be missed. That is if the death was part of the disclaimer you made at the start of the arc... http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131108002534/bakemonogatari1645/images/9/94/Ougi.jpg Does this ring any bells? The girl sounded mad, that can't be Ougi. Mad? Do you mean the person who beat the crap out of Kaiki? That was not Ougi. That wasn't even a girl. ^Is that a spoiler? Because he/she didn't identify himself/herself. But he/she was voiced by a voice ACTRESS. So I think it's a girl. Futsuu nara... |
| “Right is right even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong even if everyone is doing it.” ― Saint Augustine |
pkKodama said: ^Is that a spoiler? Because he/she didn't identify himself/herself. But he/she was voiced by a voice ACTRESS. So I think it's a girl. Futsuu nara... ...No, it's not a spoiler. You need to rewatch the scene, I guess. |
pkKodama said: You totally need to watch that scene again. The guy clearly says "Ougi was right" or something along those lines.^Is that a spoiler? Because he/she didn't identify himself/herself. But he/she was voiced by a voice ACTRESS. So I think it's a girl. Futsuu nara... |
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| i am a little sad about kaikis, death cause actually as he said araragi was useless for nadeko but actually kaiki gave her strenght |
| My favorite quotes from animes: Those who seek miracles will never experience one. The hand of salvation only extends to people who try to make miracles happen. - Ef a tale of melodies. I destroy worlds. I create worlds. - Code geass We are humans. - Shinsekai yori 100 push-ups, 100 sit-ups, 100 squats, and a 10km run EVERY SINGLE DAY!!! - One punch man |
| ougi is the real snakeeeee in the story, hopefully 2014 will cover more info on her. 10/10 regardless |
Matheine said: WTF I though everything was going to end well. Until Kaiki was went down. I thought he was shot on the head or something LMAO.... Who the heck is Ougi......... ( I know her lol ) She started this whole mess, I bet. Wow, first it was implied that she caused the whole shadow issue for Mayoi's incident, rather people even started speculating that she might even be the shadow herself; And now she kills off Kaiki for successfully bringing back Nadeko... >> I am starting to really despite that deadfish-eyed girl... |
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vlasic said: Ougi said at the end of Shinobu's arc to Araragi that her job was to punish liars, was she referring to Kaiki? I think Ougi is just someone who likes to punish liars just like Yozuru liked punishing Tsukihi just because she was immortal. Those 2 seem to just want to correct things. Araragi also suspected Ougi for being involved with Mayoi and only told her about Mayoi's disappearance to see how things pan out. Ougi is more "an opponent" than enemy I think. Ougi told Araragi her job "specifically" involved punishing liars, but prior to that she said it was "to right wrongs and bring to an end that which must end." The darkness from the past arc targeted Mayoi for no longer functioning in accordance with her existence (as the lost cow), and in the past targeted Shinobu for the same (pretending to be a god when she is a vampire). We can look at it simplistically and say she punished Kaiki for 'lying', or you could argue that she punished him for behaving in a way that contradicted his own existence (or you could follow Kaiki's suspicions about the activity in the town and consider that someone may even be pulling Ougi's strings just as she did with the boy who attacked Kaiki). As for Yozuru, she didn't attack Tsukihi for being immortal, she was attempting to exorcise an oddity (which just happens to be Tsukihi) that exists by effectively eliminating the fetus of a pregnant woman, which if looked at objectively (i.e. by someone who hasn't been introduced to Tsukihi's character as we were) actually would appear to be a just objective. |
| A truly great ending which was bittersweet with Kaiki getting killed! Who would've thought Kaiki was actually a good guy on the inside and would be a tragic hero?! That was some arc. I grew quite fond of Kaiki and his relationship with Senjougahara was great as well. Can't wait to see what happens next. Who the hell is Ougi exactly and what is she planning! |
| "Relying on someone, helping each other out, and supporting each other. Most would say that's the right thing to do. However, that's just idealistic. In reality, someone always gets the short end of the stick" http://p1.i.ntere.st/3b9596c6911c1c6844478fe7ace4e887_480.jpg |
Tsundere-lover said: I'm surprised people don't know who Ougi is.Who the hell is Ougi exactly and what is she planning! |
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huuuh said: pkKodama said: ^Is that a spoiler? Because he/she didn't identify himself/herself. But he/she was voiced by a voice ACTRESS. So I think it's a girl. Futsuu nara... ...No, it's not a spoiler. You need to rewatch the scene, I guess. Ok...I rewatched. So? I think you're the one who needs to rewatch it. Kaiki was just guessing that it could be the Sengoku's boy. |
| “Right is right even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong even if everyone is doing it.” ― Saint Augustine |
pkKodama said: I just watched it again.huuuh said: pkKodama said: ^Is that a spoiler? Because he/she didn't identify himself/herself. But he/she was voiced by a voice ACTRESS. So I think it's a girl. Futsuu nara... ...No, it's not a spoiler. You need to rewatch the scene, I guess. Ok...I rewatched. So? I think you're the one who needs to rewatch it. Kaiki was just guessing that it could be the Sengoku's boy. The first thing the boy says is "It's just like Ms. Ougi said." |
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