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The weekly manga and light novels rankings for December 16 - 22

Rank / This week's sales by copies / Cumulative sales / Titles

Manga
*1. 283,437 *,283,437 Fairy Tail Vol.41
*2. 152,727 *,152,727 Nanatsu no Taizai Vol.6
*3. 146,383 *,146,383 Diamond no Ace Vol.39
*4. 143,956 1,159,340 Shingeki no Kyojin Vol.12
*5. 130,175 *,293,223 Chihayafuru Vol.23
*6. *79,819 *,*79,819 Hoozuki no Reitetsu Vol.12
*7. *74,304 *,*74,304 Hayate no Gotoku! Vol.39
*8. *70,860 *,198,283 Soul Eater Vol.25
*9. *65,505 *,*65,505 UQ Holder! Vol.1
10. *62,147 *,*62,147 Genshiken Vol.15

11. *61,895 *,879,796 Naruto Vol.67
12. *61,678 *,*61,678 Yamada-kun to 7-nin no Majo Vol.10
13. *60,123 *,*60,123 Noragami Vol.9
14. *57,784 *,*57,784 Kami nomi zo Shiru Sekai Vol.24
15. *53,664 *,532,467 Kuroko no Basket Vol.25
16. *49,484 *,*49,484 Rin Vol.4
17. *48,238 *,*48,238 Biorg Trinity Vol.3
18. *45,741 *,*45,741 Hayate no Gotoku! Vol.39 (Limited Edition)
19. *44,312 *,*44,312 Zetman Vol.19
20. *43,719 *,*43,719 Destro 246 Vol.3

21. *43,260 *,*89,245 Kuragehime Vol.13
22. *41,227 *,*41,227 Fantasista Stella Vol.5
23. *38,007 *,*38,007 Kami nomi zo Shiru Sekai Vol.24 (Limited Edition)
24. *37,406 *,307,747 One Punch-Man Vol.5
25. *37,203 *,505,811 Bleach Vol.61
26. *36,038 *,*36,038 Akatsuki no Yona Vol.13
27. *33,455 *,*69,261 P to JK Vol.3
28. *33,296 *,637,076 Sakamoto desu ga? Vol.2
29. *33,237 *,*33,237 Shinjuku Swan Vol.38
30. *32,974 *,*32,974 AKB49: Renai Kirishi Jourei Vol.17

Rank 31-50

Light Novels and Anime/Manga related books
*1. 40,701 212,769 Sword Art Online: Progressive Vol.2
*2. 32,045 *32,045 Date A Live Vol.9
*3. 23,556 *39,114 Kaiketsu Zorori Series Vol.54
*4. 19,974 *19,974 Hidan no Aria Vol.16
*5. 16,459 *16,459 Log Horizon Vol.7 (Special Edition)
*6. 16,377 *68,830 Manga de Wakaru Nanatsu no Shuukan
*7. 10,559 140,671 Baka to Test to Shoukanjuu Vol.12
*8. 10,290 *10,290 Grancrest Senki Vol.2
*9. *9,953 *65,796 Hataraku Maou-sama! Vol.10
10. *9,276 *16,553 Dungeon ni Deai wo Motomeru no wa Machigatteiru no Darou ka Vol.4

11. *8,832 **8,832 Hyouketsu Kyoukai no Eden Vol.12
12. *7,768 **7,768 Sky World Vol.6
13. *7,591 **7,591 Gate: Jietai Kanochi nite, Kaku Tatakeri Vol.5 (First part)
14. *7,523 **7,523 Itsuka Tenma no Kuro Usagi Vol.13
15. *7,519 **7,519 Gate: Jietai Kanochi nite, Kaku Tatakeri Vol.5 (Second part)
16. *7,341 **7,341 Sono Yubi Saemo
17. *6,835 **6,835 Boku no Yuusha Vol.3
18. *6,758 **6,758 Complete Novice Vol.1
19. *6,489 **6,489 Taimadou Gakuen 35 Shiken Shoutai Vol.6
20. *6,355 **6,355 Toaru Hikuushi e no Seiyaku Vol.4

21. *6,217 *29,650 Yorozu Uranaidokoro: Onmyouya Series Vol.6
22. *5,993 *39,543 Eromanga-sensei: Imouto to Akazu no Ma
23. *5,830 **5,830 Chikasugite, Tooi

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*1. 283,437 *,283,437 Fairy Tail Vol.41
*2. 152,727 *,152,727 Nanatsu no Taizai Vol.6
*4. 143,956 1,159,340 Shingeki no Kyojin Vol.12
*5. 130,175 *,293,223 Chihayafuru Vol.23
*6. *79,819 *,*79,819 Hoozuki no Reitetsu Vol.12
*7. *74,304 *,*74,304 Hayate no Gotoku! Vol.39
*8. *70,860 *,198,283 Soul Eater Vol.25
*9. *65,505 *,*65,505 UQ Holder! Vol.1
10. *62,147 *,*62,147 Genshiken Vol.15
12. *61,678 *,*61,678 Yamada-kun to 7-nin no Majo Vol.10


Nice. Most of these I follow made it to the top. Really hoping Yamada-kun gets an anime adaptation in the future...
Interesting to see Hoozuki no Reitetsu up as well, hopefully will be a decent anime this upcoming Winter.

Oh I didn't even know DAL Volume 9 is up now. Hmm interesting.
 
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Woa, Kodansha attacking!

- Fairy Tail and Nanatsu on top, nice! It'll be quite a while before Nanatsu stands above Fairy Tail though!

- Shingeki, Shingeki. So it's about 1.4 mil copies now, (yes, we're counting the limited editions), next week should surpass it!

- UQ Holder! got 65k for first volume, great! Expect no less from Ken! And well, since uQ is a sequel to Negima, after all.

- Yamada-Kun's vol 10 first week is lower than Vol 9's! Hoping that it will gain another batch of sales next week!

-AKB49's tank sales keep rising and rising for each first week! Nice! This should keep up!

-I'm interested to see how much Reitetsu and Norahami's tank sales will increase after their anime.

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To Love Ru Darkness and Gintama still charting, very nice.

Nichijou's total sales has been increasing for each volume, nice!

............

Finally, Himouto finally charts!!!! This is a good day!
 
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Nanatsu seriously needs an anime adaption and so does Yamada.
 
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Nanatsu seriously needs an anime adaption and so does Yamada.

^ totally.

Glad to see nanatsu and diaace on top~
 
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Nanatsu seriously needs an anime adaption and so does Yamada.


Definitely. I think I did see an anime promo of sorts for Yamada but it was only for the manga.
 
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I am glad to see UQ Holder with such great sales for the very first volume of it! I hope that Nanatsu no Taizai is going to get a anime adoption, it's selling very good afterall! :)
 
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the previus volumes of log horizon never made it close to the ranks and now the latest release got in top 5 thats already good progress i guess the anime series really helped in promoting it :)
 
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Hoozuki sounds like it really has no excuse for being anything less than amazing. Fingers crossed.
 
Dec 25, 2013 3:24 PM

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Genshiken doing good. I want new season of anime :(
And adaptation for Yamada when?

 
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Hidan No Aria Volume 16 just came out today, and on the cover it says "New project in production"

Season 2 Anime Adaption Perhaps?

The light novel is amazing but the anime butchered it to no ends.
 
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Yamada adaptation please and thank you. ;~;
 
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Hidan No Aria Volume 16 just came out today, and on the cover it says "New project in production"

Season 2 Anime Adaption Perhaps?


Please no.
 
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Good for UQ Holder to sell like that for its 1st volume.

tsudecimo said:
Nanatsu seriously needs an anime adaption and so does Yamada.


Amen to that.
 
Dec 25, 2013 9:45 PM

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Shingeki no Kyojin almost 1.5m sales combine with limited edition sales, nice.
 
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Nice list.

Zetman looks good, added on my plan to read :3
 
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wow really thought singeki no kyojin would be higher !! all theses haters out there wake up and smell the TITANS !!!!!!!
 
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P to JK is something I've been interested in reading for a while now. And those are nice sales for just the third volume.
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On the other hand I like how UQ Holder ranking here but seeing KamiNomi have sales lower than it make me sad.
 
Dec 26, 2013 6:19 AM
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Light Novels and Anime/Manga related books
*1. 40,701 212,769 Sword Art Online: Progressive Vol.2

*5. 16,459 *16,459 Log Horizon Vol.7 (Special Edition)


i don't understand why SAO sales more than Log Horizon ? what elements in SAO novel that makes this novel sale so much ?
is it really good ?
 
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*2. 152,727 *,152,727 Nanatsu no Taizai Vol.6

Happy to see NnT selling. Hope anime is announced later next year.


10. *9,276 *16,553 Dungeon ni Deai wo Motomeru no wa Machigatteiru

So is finally appearing in the charts. Glad to see this. Continues to sell so it can get anime adaption. I would really like to see it.
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DinadanCarleon said:
Snowical said:

Light Novels and Anime/Manga related books
*1. 40,701 212,769 Sword Art Online: Progressive Vol.2

*5. 16,459 *16,459 Log Horizon Vol.7 (Special Edition)


i don't understand why SAO sales more than Log Horizon ? what elements in SAO novel that makes this novel sale so much ?
is it really good ?


Book sales anywhere only have the loosest of correlations to how well written it is.

Still, the two series aren't really worth comparing. In terms of what actually matters, there's very little similarity between them.
Weekly light novel releases (from 20/10/2014)
Monthly light novel sales ranks (from Jan 2015)
Bestselling light novel volumes of the year/all time* (and more in the same club).
*that there is data for

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Dec 26, 2013 8:31 AM

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Did anyone know when Masamune-kun no Revenge vol.2 will sale?
 
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DinadanCarleon said:
Snowical said:

Light Novels and Anime/Manga related books
*1. 40,701 212,769 Sword Art Online: Progressive Vol.2

*5. 16,459 *16,459 Log Horizon Vol.7 (Special Edition)


i don't understand why SAO sales more than Log Horizon ? what elements in SAO novel that makes this novel sale so much ?
is it really good ?


Log Horizon is better written than SAO and much more work has been put into building the world of Log Horizon, but it doesn't have the moe waifus and Gary Sue wish fulfillment that SAO had. It's not hard to imagine which will sell better among the kids in Japan.
 
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i don't understand why SAO sales more than Log Horizon ? what elements in SAO novel that makes this novel sale so much ?
is it really good ?

It's... probably not a question worth worrying about. I just ignore it and enjoy what an amazing show Log Horizon is. It'll never approach SAO in popularity, but then it was never expected to.
Anime sales website at http://www.someanithing.com/
 
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Ya never understood why SAO novels do so well, I read frist 4-5 volumes a few months ago and frankly they where pretty boring.

 
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*2. 152,727 *,152,727 Nanatsu no Taizai Vol.

One of my friend been recommending me to read this manga so i guess i might start as well since it's dong so good.

*3. 146,383 *,146,383 Diamond no Ace Vol.39

Not bad
 
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Ya never understood why SAO novels do so well, I read frist 4-5 volumes a few months ago and frankly they where pretty boring.


Cause, manz. Dat crap-train anime adaptation manz.
 
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Manga
*1. 283,437 *,283,437 Fairy Tail Vol.41
*2. 152,727 *,152,727 Nanatsu no Taizai Vol.6
15. *53,664 *,532,467 Kuroko no Basket Vol.25
24. *37,406 *,307,747 One Punch-Man Vol.5
36. *28,416 2,602,053 One Piece Vol.72
41. *25,601 *,293,870 Gintama Vol.52
50. *22,313 *,271,570 Shokugeki no Souma Vol.5

Always good to see these rank. Hoping for Nanatsu no Taizai and Shokugeki no Souma anime adaptions at some point.

Light Novels and Anime/Manga related books
*1. 40,701 212,769 Sword Art Online: Progressive Vol.2

Great to see SAO up there as well. Really hope that if SAO is successful for them Yen Press may think about bring over the Progressive novels.
 
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While I'm sort of glad some of the big shounen series are ending soon, I'm still a bit pissed that the ones that are here to stay (Fairy Tail) can't form some cohesive plot which can last more than 40-50 chapters without everything starting over again.
 
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Ya never understood why SAO novels do so well, I read frist 4-5 volumes a few months ago and frankly they where pretty boring.


Part anime boost and part existing fan-base(those who read the original online version).
 
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DinadanCarleon said:
Snowical said:

Light Novels and Anime/Manga related books
*1. 40,701 212,769 Sword Art Online: Progressive Vol.2

*5. 16,459 *16,459 Log Horizon Vol.7 (Special Edition)


i don't understand why SAO sales more than Log Horizon ? what elements in SAO novel that makes this novel sale so much ?
is it really good ?

Why SAO sells more than Log Horizon? It is more popular. People are invested in the franchise and buy it up.

I was really happy to see both UQ Holder and Yamada-Kun as high in sales as they are! Great performance for a first volume for UQ, but it is a sequel to Negima! so it may not really count as a "1st volume"... Maybe "1st* Volume", with the * meaning (for a sequel).

None the less, nice sales figures! I hope it keeps getting better, like it has over the past few chapters.
 
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DinadanCarleon said:
Snowical said:

Light Novels and Anime/Manga related books
*1. 40,701 212,769 Sword Art Online: Progressive Vol.2

*5. 16,459 *16,459 Log Horizon Vol.7 (Special Edition)


i don't understand why SAO sales more than Log Horizon ? what elements in SAO novel that makes this novel sale so much ?
is it really good ?

Why SAO sells more than Log Horizon? It is more popular. People are invested in the franchise and buy it up.

I was really happy to see both UQ Holder and Yamada-Kun as high in sales as they are! Great performance for a first volume for UQ, but it is a sequel to Negima! so it may not really count as a "1st volume"... Maybe "1st* Volume", with the * meaning (for a sequel).

None the less, nice sales figures! I hope it keeps getting better, like it has over the past few chapters.
 
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I wonder if there's anyway to know about lesser popular titles' sales status? I want to know how some of my favourite lesser known series like Sotomura-san and Ryuushika Ryuushika do in sales?

Oh, and are those NNB reprints on sale yet?
 
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I wonder if there's anyway to know about lesser popular titles' sales status? I want to know how some of my favourite lesser known series like Sotomura-san and Ryuushika Ryuushika do in sales?

Oricon is really all we've got, just like for video disc sales. The problem is just exacerbated for novels and manga because thresholds are so much higher, and sales are less front-loaded than with anime. If an anime ranks twice, you've got a pretty close number to what it really sold. If a novel ranks twice (or more like once for a lot!) you could miss out on a pretty significant percentage of sales. It's a shame but I don't know of any way around it.
Anime sales website at http://www.someanithing.com/
 
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Anything that ranks here on the manga and novel lists is doing quite well even if it isn't Sword Art Online or Shingeki no Kyogin.

I think series that don't rank but which continue to run in their magazines, they are doing well too. That is actually the danger at times for running in the big magazines; they have higher expectations than the smaller magazines. Your run in Shounen Jump may end with sales levels which would make them the flagship title of smaller publishers.

If your favorites are still being made then I think you can probably just be happy about that. Having Naruto/One Piece sales is not always good; I'm not sure how much freedom they have to end those series when they want to end them.
 
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Oh, and are those NNB reprints on sale yet?


Honto has vols 1-3 listed as shipping within 1-3 days, which usually means that they're sold out but can get new stock in without problems. So I would guess yes.

On the other hand vols 4-6 are listed as shipping within 7-21 days, which pretty much means "no stock available but expect to get some eventually".

Amazon has vols 1, 2 and 6 in stock. CDJapan has everything except volume 4 listed as "within 5-7 days" - volume 4 being out of print.

Perhaps they've reprinted the first half so far but not the second. It certainly looks as though they've done the first 2 volumes but not volume 4.
Weekly light novel releases (from 20/10/2014)
Monthly light novel sales ranks (from Jan 2015)
Bestselling light novel volumes of the year/all time* (and more in the same club).
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I ended up having to get Non Non Biyori from CDJapan for vols. 1-5, as Amazon only had vol. 6 in stock when I ordered early on after the anime started.

It still baffles me how bad publishers are at maintaining stock at major online retailers when their property is getting an anime adaptation. I know they need to be cautious about reprinting too many, but they seem to be far too conservative. I've had this problem with every series I've tried to buy the manga for after seeing the anime. Every single one. I went ahead and bought Sakura Trick early just to be safe because I bet it'll happen there too, even though the anime will sell low at best. It seems to affect series at all different popularity levels.

Perhaps they're giving heavy preference to B&M stores, but I don't see why that would be the case.
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I ended up having to get Non Non Biyori from CDJapan for vols. 1-5, as Amazon only had vol. 6 in stock when I ordered early on after the anime started.

It still baffles me how bad publishers are at maintaining stock at major online retailers when their property is getting an anime adaptation. I know they need to be cautious about reprinting too many, but they seem to be far too conservative. I've had this problem with every series I've tried to buy the manga for after seeing the anime. Every single one. I went ahead and bought Sakura Trick early just to be safe because I bet it'll happen there too, even though the anime will sell low at best. It seems to affect series at all different popularity levels.

Perhaps they're giving heavy preference to B&M stores, but I don't see why that would be the case.


Wait, so the reprints for NNB are out already?

And. I'd imagine Sakura Trick get a reprint if the anime sells well enough.

I'm not too pessimistic about Sakura Trick, since we have Yuru Yuri which sold pretty well, both are of the Yuri genre.
 
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Wait, so the reprints for NNB are out already?

No idea, I ordered back on November 3rd and haven't been watching stock after that.

And. I'd imagine Sakura Trick get a reprint if the anime sells well enough.

I don't doubt that the publishers do print more when an anime adaptation starts, but they clearly don't print enough. Kin-iro Mosaic, Yuyushiki, Prisma Illya, Non Non Biyori, Yozakura Quartet and so on - none of them had every volume in stock (some only had 1-2 available) at a huge retailer like Amazon. They have to be losing sales when people try to buy them and can't find them either forget or give up and don't try again. Again maybe the situation is a lot better in physical stores, and buyers go there instead, but jeeze if it's anything like online...

I'm not too pessimistic about Sakura Trick, since we have Yuru Yuri which sold pretty well, both are of the Yuri genre.

I'll consider Yuri Yuri the exception to the rule until we can rack up a couple more successes. The flopping of Aoi Hana and Sasameki Koto worry me a lot more than the success of Yuru Yuri heartens me. But I'm pessimistic by nature about things I like, to avoid being disappointed if all goes poorly.
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*1. 283,437 *,283,437 Fairy Tail Vol.41
*3. 146,383 *,146,383 Diamond no Ace Vol.39
*4. 143,956 1,159,340 Shingeki no Kyojin Vol.12
*5. 130,175 *,293,223 Chihayafuru Vol.23


great
 
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Light Novels and Anime/Manga related books
*1. 40,701 212,769 Sword Art Online: Progressive Vol.2

*5. 16,459 *16,459 Log Horizon Vol.7 (Special Edition)


i don't understand why SAO sales more than Log Horizon ? what elements in SAO novel that makes this novel sale so much ?
is it really good ?


Book sales anywhere only have the loosest of correlations to how well written it is.

Still, the two series aren't really worth comparing. In terms of what actually matters, there's very little similarity between them.


my bad.
but i'm curious why so many people buy this LN.

why this novel attracts so many people ?

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Snowical said:

Light Novels and Anime/Manga related books
*1. 40,701 212,769 Sword Art Online: Progressive Vol.2

*5. 16,459 *16,459 Log Horizon Vol.7 (Special Edition)


i don't understand why SAO sales more than Log Horizon ? what elements in SAO novel that makes this novel sale so much ?
is it really good ?


Log Horizon is better written than SAO and much more work has been put into building the world of Log Horizon, but it doesn't have the moe waifus and Gary Sue wish fulfillment that SAO had. It's not hard to imagine which will sell better among the kids in Japan.



so, novel need Moe and Gary Sue stuff to be popular ?
 
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I'm not too pessimistic about Sakura Trick, since we have Yuru Yuri which sold pretty well, both are of the Yuri genre.


Yuru Yuri is first and foremost a moe slice of life comedy series, it's not that different from being Lucky Star MKII, the type of series that Japan absolutely loves except that it has Yuri as a comedy device. Sakura Trick looks like a more serious Yuri series, the type that's a really hard sell and that rarely does well.
 
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I'm not too pessimistic about Sakura Trick, since we have Yuru Yuri which sold pretty well, both are of the Yuri genre.


Yuru Yuri is first and foremost a moe slice of life comedy series, it's not that different from being Lucky Star MKII, the type of series that Japan absolutely loves except that it has Yuri as a comedy device. Sakura Trick looks like a more serious Yuri series, the type that's a really hard sell and that rarely does well.


Aoi Hana was drama-heavy yuri. Sakura Trick is tagged as a comedy. There is still a chance.
 
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Light Novels and Anime/Manga related books
*1. 40,701 212,769 Sword Art Online: Progressive Vol.2

*5. 16,459 *16,459 Log Horizon Vol.7 (Special Edition)


i don't understand why SAO sales more than Log Horizon ? what elements in SAO novel that makes this novel sale so much ?
is it really good ?


Log Horizon is better written than SAO and much more work has been put into building the world of Log Horizon, but it doesn't have the moe waifus and Gary Sue wish fulfillment that SAO had. It's not hard to imagine which will sell better among the kids in Japan.



so, novel need Moe and Gary Sue stuff to be popular ?


SAO selling more than Log Horizon has a very simple explanation. SAO has a huge fanbase (that it had years to build up) from back when it was an online web novel. Log Horizon is still fairly new. The outcome of the anime usually has the effect of boosting sales of the novel, as it's an advertisement. It's not going to suddenly cause fans of the novel to abandon it or anything.

None of this moe and Gary Sue nonsense that some in the western fanbase like to sprout around, which most likely originated from /a/ on 4chan or something along those lines.

Moe isn't a genre, it's a rising feeling that can invoked by pretty much anything... An example I like to give is the tanks in Girls und Panzer. These tanks invoked the moe feeling amongst military otaku. I'm quite sure those tanks aren't cute girls at all like the western fanbase like to stereotype too much.

The Japanese are also not so shallow to like something just because it has cute girls, a possible overpowered main character, harem, etc. They look for a balance of everything (good characters, character interactions, music, plot, etc), unlike some in the western fanbase who places too much emphasis on plot for something to even interest them. That shallow obsession with plot is displayed so well in the Anime Discussion forum, on ANN, and also in the News Discussion threads (with those whiny posts on "why does this shit sell so much when anime B is oh so much better", etc etc, we see so often)
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Dec 26, 2013 8:27 PM
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Ejc said:
SAO selling more than Log Horizon has a very simple explanation. SAO has a huge fanbase (that it had years to build up) from back when it was an online web novel. Log Horizon is still fairly new. The outcome of the anime usually has the effect of boosting sales of the novel, as it's an advertisement. It's not going to suddenly cause fans of the novel to abandon it or anything.

None of this moe and Gary Sue nonsense that some in the western fanbase like to sprout around, which most likely originated from /a/ on 4chan or something along those lines.


Mahouka is newer than Log Horizon, hasn't had its anime aired yet and yet it's massively more popular than Log Horizon.
 
Dec 26, 2013 8:41 PM

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Fairy Tail in first. That's really rare, but good to see, at least for me.
For the people saying that Nanatsu no Taizai needs an anime adaptation, I found this:
http://myanimelist.net/anime/18093/Nanatsu_no_Taizai
It's going to air somewhere in 2014.

Also: Nanatsu & Fairy Tail Crossover coming! :D
 
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Ejc said:
SAO selling more than Log Horizon has a very simple explanation. SAO has a huge fanbase (that it had years to build up) from back when it was an online web novel. Log Horizon is still fairly new. The outcome of the anime usually has the effect of boosting sales of the novel, as it's an advertisement. It's not going to suddenly cause fans of the novel to abandon it or anything.

None of this moe and Gary Sue nonsense that some in the western fanbase like to sprout around, which most likely originated from /a/ on 4chan or something along those lines.


Mahouka is newer than Log Horizon, hasn't had its anime aired yet and yet it's massively more popular than Log Horizon.


Obviously because the Japanese think it is more interesting than Log Horizon? I don't know what you're trying to prove here, but I obviously didn't mean in a literal sense that a longer running series with naturally have a larger fanbase as with the case of SAO and Log Horizon. It is just evident that is the case, due to how many potential people could have bought the novel (since they wanted to own it, and read more of it later) when it was serialised in 2009, as the original SAO web novel had millions of pageviews.

If you're referring to my next sentence in the quote, then no. Just because it can invoke the moe feeling, and the main character is overpowered, doesn't mean it's a sure formula for success. There are many other novels that have the same elements that may not be as successful. It's all to do also with how heavily advertised it is, how it was serialised, and many other factors.

I'm sure someone else can explain the other factors involved with novels that can potentially make them successful.
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Will we get a thread this week or are the manga charts 'on break' as well? Thanks.
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