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Dec 19, 2013 2:38 AM
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Those battle sequences were sex to the eyes. Kyoani animation at its best.

Overall, an average series. Please patch up those plotholes next time Kyoani, will you?
5/10
 
Dec 19, 2013 2:43 AM

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Whoever cried when Mirai disappeared is a dum ass.

You shouldve known already KyoAni pulls a bullshit "happy" ending out of there ass for every possible anime they create. Ending was so bullshit since Mirai appeared like nothing, no explanation.

Shitty moe anime to its max.

As I said battle scenes and the OST were good, nothing else.
 
Dec 19, 2013 2:45 AM
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What I'm not understanding is: does Akkey love Mirai? Oh gosh
 
Dec 19, 2013 2:49 AM
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^doesn't matter. Glasses.

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Oookay, I think i'm dumb but someone can explain to me about:
1. Why Mirai got revived in the end? Wtf, how?While in the anime it took maybe a few months, in our real world it took less than five minutes with no indications or clue whatsoever (beyond the ring disappearance) and lo and behold she revived on the school rooftop, I mean HOW?
2. Who Aki's father and what the circumstances of his birth that make Aki harbor KnK?
3. Who the old dude in Nase family secret hideout (is he really grandfather biologically or it's just a title), and what his purpose?
4. Who is Fujima boss (I think he's just underling, am I wrong?) and what happened in the past that make him hate Izumi?
5. Where Izumi gone?
Overall I think 6/10 especially because the second half of the ending is so rushed and lame :s


1.) Because happy endings are a must.
2.) Who cares? Glasses.
3.) Another glasses freak.
4.) Izumi broke their childhood promise: they'll marry once they grow up.
5.) At some Okinawan beach.

By the way, these question aren't dumb; not everyone thinks when watching an anime.
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Dec 19, 2013 3:10 AM

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LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMME LAAAAME LAAAAAAAAAAME LAME FYULAMEKAI DESU


All these are so forced. Man I was so happy when Kuriyama "died" then they assed it up and she lives? Like wtf. I was gonna give this an 8 now fuck dis shit this is 6. I'm so mad right now.
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Dec 19, 2013 3:27 AM
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and so the One Ring fell into the abyss as Gollum desperately threw himself down along with it


don't logically understand how the fuck she's still alive but whatever...
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A cuddle a day keeps the pouting away~
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Dec 19, 2013 3:30 AM
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The ending was a bit cliched and predictable, but it was sweet nonetheless. One would wish for those two to be together when watching the show.
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Dec 19, 2013 4:30 AM

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Lots of things left unexplained.

Akihito's mom, Yayoi, what is her involvement in this? Izumi's past about her and Miroku and how did they get youmu in them. Her disappearance in the end. And Mirai's sudden revival. What was that?

So the whole plot of this anime is Izumi trying to kill KnK in Akihito but failed and Akihito took KnK back into himself again and we're back to square one....

Cant say much about this show. Everything is perfect, the art, animation, songs but just not the story.
 
Dec 19, 2013 4:33 AM

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julyan04 said:

1.) Because happy endings are a must.
2.) Who cares? Glasses.
3.) Another glasses freak.
4.) Izumi broke their childhood promise: they'll marry once they grow up.
5.) At some Okinawan beach.

Aaaaaah. That makes sense. Maybe they should have put more empasis on the glasses thing.

Best thing of all is: KnK is back in Akkey. So basically nobody has achieved anything. During thet time when Akkey and his Youmu are split, we have an evil glasses guy doing something because (...?) - he's gone now. And a dead Mirai...? Ok, revert everything, nothing ever happened. Happy end!

Well, the show wasn't that bad. Animation, Enjoyment etc. was good. The story just feels aimless and incomplete.
 
Dec 19, 2013 4:34 AM

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Generic beginning all the way to mid until the scene with Kuriyama vanishing appeared, touching dialogues. Then it ended up on a generic note again, such a waste of so much potential.. In the end, wasn't he more in love with glasses than Mirai herself? I mean, it would have went so much better if slowly, he started realizing that it's not just her glasses which make her attractive but her 'everything'...

Anyways, I am disappointed with the ending but overall, the series was great (last two episodes didn't work out for me) 9/10
 
Dec 19, 2013 4:45 AM

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It was very generic and with gaps in logic until episode 6, but then the new story started and filled many those holes left before and added some interesting twists, but left some questions unanswered and this happy ending came out of nowhere.
Decent show overall, 6/10.
 
Dec 19, 2013 4:58 AM

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Didn't Izumi call Mirai to kill Akihito and his Hollow Shadow in the first place ? How come everyone is happy at the end even though they just went back to the initial context ?

Did I skip something ?
 
Dec 19, 2013 5:16 AM

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It did feel slightly rushed but I still enoyed it.
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Dec 19, 2013 5:55 AM

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A decent show. Not bad and not great, but overall I enjoyed it
 
Dec 19, 2013 6:04 AM

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Iro-sama said:
I don't wanna seem mean but the thing I thought the most during this episode was just
can we get another season of haruhi on this level of animation??? please?????????? because holy toast


No season 3 yet, but we get this instead https://www.animenewsnetwork.co.uk/news/2013-12-17/the-disappearance-of-nagato-yuki-chan-anime-listed so maybe in a year or 2, fingers crossed.
 
Dec 19, 2013 6:28 AM

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Damn, noting is explained in this episode...
 
Dec 19, 2013 6:37 AM

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7/10 for rating the anime , minus one because how did she live again lol
and mirai was cute without glasses <3
Great anime ^_^ but 4/5 expected more from the final episode

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Dec 19, 2013 6:52 AM
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Beautiful just beautiful..Great ending to a great anime...although it felt a bit rush it made almost cried when I thought Mirai was going to vanish forever..a satisfying ending despite that the anime left some questions unanswered such as how did Kanbara get Beyond the boundary in the first place. Since the light novel are still ongoing (status says ongoing), I have hopes for a season 2 that might explain everything (although it might be awhile). I also wanted to see Kanbara fight more with his youmu powers and his see his mom a bit more..
 
Dec 19, 2013 6:54 AM

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I hope an adequate explanation, because I'm confused.
Cute and beautiful anime.
 
Dec 19, 2013 7:05 AM

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That she would return at the last moment of this episode was rather obvious it's that type of anime after all.

Personally i have to say this wasn't what i expected or at least what we usually see from Kyoani and i don't think it was a good anime especially not for Kyoani.
The main characters especially Mirai where bad the side characters where better and could have used some more screen time the story was mediocre.
And that willer of episode 6 was just bad and pointless as was the obsession with glasses.
The last few episodes where decant tho somethings remain unexplained.
 
Dec 19, 2013 7:12 AM

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Whoever cried when Mirai disappeared is a dum ass.

You shouldve known already KyoAni pulls a bullshit "happy" ending out of there ass for every possible anime they create. Ending was so bullshit since Mirai appeared like nothing, no explanation.

Shitty moe anime to its max.

As I said battle scenes and the OST were good, nothing else.


Says the guy that have Angel beats, Clannad and Shana as favorite. If you're going to like shit you might as well not discriminated the shit others like.

Clannad spoiler:


And you're seriously talking about 'bullshit happy ending', come on Clannad's was even more shitty and you're probably licking it like it was the rightest of stuff.
Obviously you cannot compare Kyoukai no Kanata's to Clannad's. One is the product of a completed work (and was still bullshit) while the other is only the ending point of the first volume, with others to come.

Shitty moe anime to the max, I agree. Kyoukai no kanata wasn't what I'd call a good anime but seeing people hating on it when their favorites have the exact damn same flaw they're condemning is the peak of irony.
 
Dec 19, 2013 7:15 AM

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Says the guy that have Angel beats, Clannad and Shana as favorite. If you're going to like shit you might as well not discriminated the shit others like.


What a totally different viewpoint LOL. I thought 'Even he who has Angel Beats! as his favorite hates KnK'.
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Dec 19, 2013 7:23 AM

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Disappointed, period!

Has one of the very best anime ending I have ever heard though.
 
Dec 19, 2013 7:25 AM

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I dunno 5/10 I guess? It wasn't unbearable thanks to production values and seiyuu performances, but I really gave no fucks about the story/characters. I did like the way Episode 10 played out though, that was neat I suppose. It's very flawed, but there's enough saving it from me calling it bad or worse.
 
 
Dec 19, 2013 7:54 AM

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Shangetsu said:
Says the guy that have Angel beats, Clannad and Shana as favorite. If you're going to like shit you might as well not discriminated the shit others like.


What a totally different viewpoint LOL. I thought 'Even he who has Angel Beats! as his favorite hates KnK'.


No sir we have a similar viewpoint but we have a different position on the matter. We both find that AB isn't inferior or superior to KnK except I think both of them are bad while you seems to think that both of them are good.

Still the point hits home, hating one so much when you like the other is ironic.
 
Dec 19, 2013 8:03 AM

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Ah, it's over. Uhhh... cool.. i guess...
4/10 from me
 
Dec 19, 2013 8:04 AM

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No sir we have a similar viewpoint but we have a different position on the matter. We both find that AB isn't inferior or superior to KnK except I think both of them are bad while you seems to think that both of them are good.

Still the point hits home, hating one so much when you like the other is ironic.

I don't like both anime. To rephrase, I thought he couldn't stomach KnK even though... you know. Anyway, people aren't always logical on matters of preference. Sometime I love a series widely known as bad, for any or no reason.
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Dec 19, 2013 8:39 AM

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So I was confused at how she came back, then realized I was watching an anime.

Nice little series, was sweet, not my fave anime of the season but a good one.
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Dec 19, 2013 8:44 AM

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Okay... Mirai remained adorable in the end.
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Dec 19, 2013 9:03 AM
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Lol I find it funny on how this is turning into a flame post..don't like it-get out simple...@ TehWhiteTiger I "think" it was because some of her "existence" or "memories" if u like that term was still in the ring that proved she existed..cuz the bonsai in the club room was gone as if she didn't exist at all in the first place..so i guess the ring disappear to magcially bring Mirai back aahha..aha ..I find it ironic that it was the same place they first met at the beginning of the series
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Dec 19, 2013 9:08 AM
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.....after watching the show quite painfully (those first 6-7 episodes were so filler), I think the story could have been told on maybe 6 episodes.....as a matter of fact from my point of view the only good thing of the show is its music, and this ridiculous last episode even makes the anime even more lame.....sad, indeed.....with a better execution and cutting of those creepy and boring attempts at humor it could have been a decent show.....
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Dec 19, 2013 9:14 AM

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Lusbox said:
Iro-sama said:
I don't wanna seem mean but the thing I thought the most during this episode was just
can we get another season of haruhi on this level of animation??? please?????????? because holy toast


No season 3 yet, but we get this instead https://www.animenewsnetwork.co.uk/news/2013-12-17/the-disappearance-of-nagato-yuki-chan-anime-listed so maybe in a year or 2, fingers crossed.


Probably the only reason for me to watch or read about anything Haruhi related. Loved Yuki!
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Dec 19, 2013 9:22 AM

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Shangetsu said:
The way Kyoukai no Kanata responded to Kanbara's feeling near the end pretty much hint at it being the 'dark side' of Kanbara.

The reason it went berserk was because Kanbara rejected his dark feeling and thus rejected the part of himself that contained Kyoukai no Kanata. He wanted to live as a human so he rejected his youmu half in an attempt to live a normal life.
When he accepted himself as a whole, he accepted Kyoukai no Kanata at the same time.

While it might seems that it's back to square one it's actually quite different. Since Kyoukai no Kanata and Kanbara made peace there's basically no reason for it to go berserk on it's own anymore. Kanbara is even very likely to be able to use it's power if the series actually continued.


thanks for the explanation.
 
Dec 19, 2013 9:27 AM
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Hahah just as similar as Naruto and his nine tails..Sorry ahah just had to say it
 
Dec 19, 2013 9:47 AM

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What an underwhelming and rushed ending.... And they had to add a miracle at the end too....

Final Episode - 3.5/5
Series - 7/10
 
Dec 19, 2013 9:54 AM

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I literally shouted 'Fuck my life' once I saw Mirai coming back. That put a sour ending on the series.

Also, why are people annoyed about those two not kissing? Do you even know that public display of affection such as 'kissing' is frowned upon or embarrassing even among the Japanese youth?

Hell, they even think of 'kissing' as a form of oral sex. That's why we don't get many anime showing that. It is an embarrassing subject for them.

Note: I am not an expert on Japanese Culture. I just read Culture Shock too much.
 
Dec 19, 2013 9:55 AM

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Her return was only for the sake of an happy ending. I hate those kind of endings. I cried though.
Overall, I hated the fanserv and I had a hard time understanding the story. Though I liked the four main characters. This anime encountered a truly sad yet common fate: it started very well, had a lot of crappy episodes inbetween, and had an end that brings you to tears so you forget about what happened before.
It'll be a 6/10 for me, especially for the soundtrack and the animation (which I both found very pleasant), and for the characters development.
 
Dec 19, 2013 10:06 AM

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So in the end, the plot was rushed and a forced conclusion was shown. Not a good way to end a series.

Beyond the Boundary has its ups and downs, and at one point it seemed as though this show was irredeemable, but after the blatant filler episodes and bullshit one-dimensional characterization in the beginning, the writing did get a little better (not by much). I'm disappointed that they didn't bother building the world for us, but that would require a second cour to be effective. I'll give it:

5/10

For having superior visuals, but ultimately having weak writing, this series is mediocre at best. It's not outright garbage, but it's not something I'd consider rewatching or purchasing.
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Dec 19, 2013 10:17 AM
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Shit show. 5/10.
 
Dec 19, 2013 10:25 AM

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NO KISS! NOT EVEN A HUG!! OMG!!!

Beautiful show it is (something i'd expect from KyoAni), but the romance between Akkey and Mirai was just... ehh I didn't feel it!

Final thoughts: confusing, forced and rushed. Great visuals and soundtrack though.

6/10.

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Dec 19, 2013 11:08 AM
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My opinion is that the episode had a very impressive art , they probably blew most of the budget on this episode. Well , great show , to be expected from KyoAni , enjoyed it a lot.

9/10
 
Dec 19, 2013 11:09 AM

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I'm kind of confused about my feelings for this show and I guess, in a way, that's good. The ending was a bit rushed and I don't understand why she came back at the very end (maybe she's not actually there but a shadow that Akkey summoned from himself? Maybe she exists entirely as a dreamshade now?) but at the same time I only really liked the show after it stopped following the LN. The entire show was a visual feast and I liked Hiroomi and Akkey. Maybe this would have benefited from being a 2 cour show or maybe it will get a second season to expand on things.

In the end, I don't regret watching this and I would watch any new content of it in the future. I just don't feel as satisfied with it as I wanted to be.
 
Dec 19, 2013 11:36 AM

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Sooo close to being a decent ending ... until she returned ...


 
Dec 19, 2013 11:45 AM

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I wonder if people would be okay with the ending if it just showed Akihito running up the stairs and then ending it right as he opens the doors and sees the rooftop, with light covering the screen, keeping it ambiguous.
 
Dec 19, 2013 11:54 AM

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i dont know why, but i dont feel want to cry at any scene n i emotionless at this last episode -.-
this episode goes too fast n also that mirai revive with no reason? i hate ending like this. this series become like dragon ball, died revive died revive but still dragon ball have their own reason..... i give 1.5/5 on this last episode.... and 7/10 for entire series...
 
Dec 19, 2013 11:54 AM

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I wonder if people would be okay with the ending if it just showed Akihito running up the stairs and then ending it right as he opens the doors and sees the rooftop, with light covering the screen, keeping it ambiguous.


I think it would still piss off people either way since it is pointing to her return.

I would've had it with him reflecting over the sacrifice and end with the line "I feel unpleasent". Bam, bittersweet ending and I would've respected the show much more for it.
 
Dec 19, 2013 12:31 PM

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That fast ending... Hoping for an adequate explanation in a possible next season
But great anime =D

8/10
 
Dec 19, 2013 12:41 PM

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Wait what... but she was dead?
 
Dec 19, 2013 1:15 PM

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Despite not understanding nor explaining how she came back I still enjoyed the episode. Only thing that really bothered me was how they only showed the sparks from Izumi and Miroku's fight, though there was plenty of it with Mirai and Akkey.

And all those Mirai smile moments. HNG.
 
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