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Dec 11, 2013 5:29 PM

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The fight scenes and the shots of the boundary were amazing.
A son hitting his mother, nobody has a problem with that? no? okay, her knight gag was hilarious.
 
 
Dec 11, 2013 5:41 PM

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This episode was so awesome and action packed for a second I thought this was the last episode of the series and I got sad but it is not WOOT!'

Great episode!!!
 
Dec 11, 2013 5:46 PM

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Series really bumped up its storytelling but I feel the pacing is way too fast now. Packed too much explanation into one episode. The scene with Akihito running to Mirai was good with the OP song which I love. I know your mom is annoying but you don't need to knock her around, I know it was supposed to be funny but it really bothered me for some reason.
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Dec 11, 2013 6:18 PM

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Now that was friggin awesome, I love this show
 
Dec 11, 2013 6:25 PM

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gosh that ending!! That "serves you right" word! This episode is really 15/10 to me! (except when Yayoi appears..)
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Dec 11, 2013 6:41 PM
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Akihito able to freely transform his right hand/arm into youmu form now? :O

Regardless of what the haters say, I'd still be happy to have a second season of KnK.
 
Dec 11, 2013 6:43 PM
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thats one heck of an episode and lol at the mother she is hot though and last episode next week! i hope its a happy ending one
 
Dec 11, 2013 6:49 PM
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How was Mirai able to fight for so long? Cursed blood, sad memories, BtB taking all super natural power from humans or maybe Mirai wish for Akihito to have normal life. Since they are one then they are immortal and can battle for all eternity.


It's a spirit world, so it is not like Mirai needs food or sleep there. Mirai could fight so long because she knew that defeating the BtB would save Akihito in the real world. The doll of Akihito she created was to ground her during the fight and remind her of why she was fighting. So basically love was where she got the strength. BtB wouldn't have been able to last forever, it was actually losing and was draining Youmu and Spirit Warriors in the real world in a desperate attempt to save itself, but had not the Magical Association Person interfered, Mirai would have defeated it and both she and the BtB would disappear together.

The two big remaining questions are, what role Akihito's mother plays in all this. We will not get the answer to that (most likely) since the novels are still be published (or at least are much longer than this series and I figure that is a huge plot point), that is annoying but nothing we can do about that (assuming that this arc isn't completely different from the novels), the bigger question I have is why the Magical Association guy is doing all this. I hate shows and books where the evil guy just does evil things because he is evil. I really hope and expect a better explanation for his motives (unless they already did it and I just missed it). Knowledge and power are lame reasons. I also have to question the logic behind a car battery being able to power up BtB that much. I know, artistic license, but still pretty stupid license (youmu are supposed to be weak because of light (which electricity provides), and a car battery why not a friggin 9 volt battery if you are going to do that.

That last one is a very very very minor complaint, just something that bugged me.
 
Dec 11, 2013 7:24 PM

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Akihito's mum is so random and funny. Loved how he caught Kuriyama as she was falling. The final battle is beginning.
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Dec 11, 2013 7:45 PM

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Is it just me or have a lot of people given up on this show way too early?

I remember when this series was within it's first 6 or 7 episodes and people were calling it a massive disappointment from Kyoto Ani. However, it seems like they really didn't give this series a chance to come to fruition. The last 3 or 4 episodes have been simply outstanding. I'd even put this up there with Hyouka in regards to how great its been.
 
Dec 11, 2013 8:16 PM

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I think I have a serious problem. Based on the comments, it seems like I'm the only one who's not enjoying this as much as I should. I know I was supposed to feel something when Akihito read Mirai's message but...I didn't feel anything. If any, all I saw was a label "this is the scene where we want you to feel sad" but that didn't resonate with me.

Also, that part with Aki's mom...it felt forced. She was hilariously random but it just felt out of place? Like okay shit's going down, youmus are floating and getting sucked into that sphere. The group races to the club room (why the club room btw?!) when they saw that flier stating Mirai's alive. They open the door. Then the gag happens. It broke, no, annihilated the ongoing flow as well as the "shit just got real" atmosphere.

When a writer uses the "for some unknown reason, X happened" card, it usually means "we're not sure which direction we want to take this" but that scene with Aki asking his mom to tell him about herself someday...well that kind of made me less worried. Also a hook for another season obviously.

And a car battery powering up that uh...thing. I need to get in touch with that dude and ask him where he gets his car batteries because mine gets easily discharged.

So tell me, am I just nitpicking or is there really a problem with the storytelling?

The animation for the action scenes was amazing though I'll give them that.
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Dec 11, 2013 8:25 PM
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Is it just me or have a lot of people given up on this show way too early?

I remember when this series was within it's first 6 or 7 episodes and people were calling it a massive disappointment from Kyoto Ani. However, it seems like they really didn't give this series a chance to come to fruition. The last 3 or 4 episodes have been simply outstanding. I'd even put this up there with Hyouka in regards to how great its been.


Well, the Kyo-Ani haters aside, the first 6 or so episodes contained a lot of filler that had little to do with the main plot, and for several episodes, because of this, the show drifted around without seeming to have any direction. Pacing problems are one of the biggest turnoffs for people.

But of course once they got back to the actual novels the show found its grove and improved dramatically.
 
Dec 11, 2013 8:49 PM

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Although the ending was a lil rushed (i wanted more of dem feels) but IT WAS BEEEEAUTIFULLLL ^~^


And the long wait for the next ep begins
 
 
Dec 11, 2013 9:08 PM

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damn I love this kind of anime... where they will show you boring stuff for the first 9 episodes and from episode 10 up to the last everything will be explained and nothing but badass and epic moments will happen...

epic scene that matches with the epic ED... dayuuuuuum!
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Dec 11, 2013 9:37 PM
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rather mediocre episode, but awesome ending
 
Dec 11, 2013 9:44 PM

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Akkey's mom has got it goin' on
She's all I want and I've waited for so long
Mirai, can't you see you're just not the girl for me
I know it might be wrong but I'm in love with Akkey's mom
 
Dec 11, 2013 9:46 PM

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Takuan_Soho said:
Toucanbird said:
Is it just me or have a lot of people given up on this show way too early?

I remember when this series was within it's first 6 or 7 episodes and people were calling it a massive disappointment from Kyoto Ani. However, it seems like they really didn't give this series a chance to come to fruition. The last 3 or 4 episodes have been simply outstanding. I'd even put this up there with Hyouka in regards to how great its been.


Well, the Kyo-Ani haters aside, the first 6 or so episodes contained a lot of filler that had little to do with the main plot, and for several episodes, because of this, the show drifted around without seeming to have any direction. Pacing problems are one of the biggest turnoffs for people.

But of course once they got back to the actual novels the show found its grove and improved dramatically.


Have to agree with you there, they spent a little too much time with the filler(especially the episode with the fruit youmu) when they could have been expanding on the story more, however the last few episodes have been great.

Also a lot of people should consider finishing the series they have dropped after they end since they could turn out completely different then you expect them to be. I mean I wasn't very fond of Shin Sekai no Yori, but I came back to it and now its one of my top 10 ^^.
 
 
Dec 11, 2013 10:14 PM

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His mom :P

Next is last ep! Mal says there is 13 :/
 
Dec 11, 2013 10:24 PM

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Series really bumped up its storytelling but I feel the pacing is way too fast now. Packed too much explanation into one episode.

This. If the series didn't use up so much time on filler and instead focused on plot, then this would have easily become one of the best anime of the year. Now I feel cheated as I watch these later episodes not being able to forget the disappointment in the beginning.
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Dec 11, 2013 10:30 PM

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This was a pretty great episode! No wonder this is one of the series I look forward to the most every week!
 
Dec 11, 2013 10:45 PM

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Aki's mom was great XD
 
Dec 11, 2013 11:17 PM

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I like the last two episodes but this episode felt too rushed man.Now only if they could've done more when they were airing fillers. So dumb. I was really hoping Mirai dies. It would leave more impact in the series. I dno't hate her but I think it would've been a great ending. Text scene didn't leave an impact at all. didn't make me cry or didn't leave an epic feeling like Chuunibyou.

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Dec 11, 2013 11:54 PM

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This had gone from an easy 6.5 to a solid 9 for me in just two episodes.
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Dec 12, 2013 12:02 AM

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I know this is just a cartoon and not to be taken seriously, but it still bothered me. I don't care what kind of culture you're from, you should never physically abuse your own mother. :(
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Dec 12, 2013 1:32 AM

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Amazingly beautiful animation. Like the best of any tv anime.

Good episode, a bit more complicated then I'd have liked.
 
Dec 12, 2013 5:23 AM
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EVERYTIME the opening is blended into the actual content of an anime, i go crazy and get goosebumps. (anyone remember the digimon adventure's ending where they have to leave the digiworld and suddenly the opening starts while i-only-know-her-german-name-damn throws her hat to her digimon? i just started crying like crazy haha)

this episode was SO good though. makes me desperately want to read the light novels, but alas, i don't want to start when it hasn't been translated completely yet. ///
 
Dec 12, 2013 5:40 AM
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Takuan_Soho said:
Toucanbird said:
Is it just me or have a lot of people given up on this show way too early?

I remember when this series was within it's first 6 or 7 episodes and people were calling it a massive disappointment from Kyoto Ani. However, it seems like they really didn't give this series a chance to come to fruition. The last 3 or 4 episodes have been simply outstanding. I'd even put this up there with Hyouka in regards to how great its been.


Well, the Kyo-Ani haters aside, the first 6 or so episodes contained a lot of filler that had little to do with the main plot, and for several episodes, because of this, the show drifted around without seeming to have any direction. Pacing problems are one of the biggest turnoffs for people.

But of course once they got back to the actual novels the show found its grove and improved dramatically.


But this is not from the novel. Vol.1 only included Hollow Shadow arc so I don't know what you're saying.

KyoAni is only animating the first novel.

Edit: Rougly 80-90% is original from 6 and beyond.
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Dec 12, 2013 6:08 AM

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Mirai is still alive. My goodness. I really love how the Nase siblings stood up to Izumi this time.
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Dec 12, 2013 7:03 AM

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Well, the Kyo-Ani haters aside, the first 6 or so episodes contained a lot of filler that had little to do with the main plot, and for several episodes, because of this, the show drifted around without seeming to have any direction. Pacing problems are one of the biggest turnoffs for people.

But of course once they got back to the actual novels the show found its grove and improved dramatically.

It's the other way around. Kyo ani went original from the filler fan-service episode and onwards.
 
 
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Well, the Kyo-Ani haters aside, the first 6 or so episodes contained a lot of filler that had little to do with the main plot, and for several episodes, because of this, the show drifted around without seeming to have any direction. Pacing problems are one of the biggest turnoffs for people.

But of course once they got back to the actual novels the show found its grove and improved dramatically.

It's the other way around. Kyo ani went original from the filler fan-service episode and onwards.

Have any novel readers, or anyone for that matter, confirmed that? If it's true, I have to praise KyoAni for fixing the story.
 
Dec 12, 2013 7:26 AM

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There is a 2nd novel. Does anyone know if the KnK story arc is in that?

Someone asked "Why the clubroom?" Why? Because that is where the shard of KnK was to re-youmoufy Aki.

I must be in the minority since I didn't feel that this was rushed at all. If anything, I thought they dragged out the story a bit in the last two episodes. I really have enjoyed the series and look forward to the "not unpleasant" ending for Aki and Mirai. (Call her Mirai for once, Aki! You don't have to be so formal with the girl you love!)
 
 
Dec 12, 2013 7:43 AM

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In the Kyoukai no Kanata, the dead Akihito was just a puppet so Akihito will be able get up to the KnK to save Mirai.

Black World is about the Kyoukai no Kanata, Akihito's mom tell to akihito how to save Mirai, the question is how Akkey's mom know what to do to save Mirai.

Akihito was sleeping for three months????? So Mirai has been facing off the KnK for three months?? that was too long.

I didn't notice Hiroomi was not wearing his scarf until Akkey said it.

This is the first time I saw Sakura worrying for Mirai. I think she hate Akihito by sacrificing Mirai to save him.

I almost cried when Akihito read the message of Mirai while showing Mirai fighting the KnK. "I don't feel unpleasant".

I laughed when Akihito is running then Sakura kicked him.
What the heck is happening, youmu's are pulling up in the KnK, even Ai-chan and Ayaka-san is pulling up.

Lol, Akkey knew that it's his mother inside the armor then he went uppercutting his mom. She's a hot mom :3 and even when bad times she can still joke around.

Akihito entering the KnK to save Mirai was pretty intense and in some way of awesomeness, hearing the OP twice was great and it inserted also in the great part of ending.

Mirai stabbed herself, noo???
Mirai was fine thankgoodness, Akihito almost cried and still kidding at the end.

Can't wait next week, the Gray World, it's like they helped each other to escape the Kyoukai no Kanata.
They really made their best make the last episodes, KyoAni really made a great job, even though I haven't watched the last episode I can say their doing their best :)


Last Episode next week.
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Dec 12, 2013 7:48 AM

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There is a 2nd novel. Does anyone know if the KnK story arc is in that?


2nd novel? so that means there's a 2nd season of anime?? I hope so.
Don't know the arc, hope it's promising.
 
Dec 12, 2013 8:13 AM

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His mother sure is a unique person with that behaviour of her not to mention all the outfits that she was wearing, which makes me wonder about his father.
The episode itself was mostly overly dramatic in my opinion especially Akihito's behaviour could have been done better, not to mention some of the other characters.
 
Dec 12, 2013 9:39 AM

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From when the opening started playing in the show at the end, it was badass and awesome. I was screaming GO AKKEY GO SAVE MIRAI ~
 
Dec 12, 2013 10:41 AM

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Way to bring sexy back.
 
Dec 12, 2013 11:05 AM

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Wow that episode was so awesome!

I was getting all teary eyed when he was reading Mirai's letter. OMG

I got all kinds of feels the exact moment they mixed in the OP song and those last couple of scenes. This is ending really well and I can't wait till next week.
 
Dec 12, 2013 11:08 AM

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Awesome episode. Had me feeling when he was reading her message. The ending scene was to awesome. The song op with it went perfect. Can't wait till next Wednesday


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Dec 12, 2013 11:12 AM

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Only 2 more episodes to go! I think Kyoukai no Kanata is up there for surprise of the fall season. By the way, anyone else thinks that the ED in this is flawless? That song is just so awesome! Can't wait for next week!


that ed was beyond flawless!
 
Dec 12, 2013 11:22 AM

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oh god that text :'(

I really wish they had expanded this story line in the earlier episodes. I doubt Akkey's mother is going to tell him about himself in the next episode, so I'm hoping for a second season now.
 
Dec 12, 2013 11:32 AM

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Wow nice catch~ next week last episode
 
Dec 12, 2013 12:02 PM

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So tell me, am I just nitpicking or is there really a problem with the storytelling?
The animation for the action scenes was amazing though I'll give them that.

I do feel the same. It's pretty to watch but the characters are very bland and the story... well, I don't think I've ever felt this disconnected from a story. It just feels hollow and messy.
And that's strange because when I watch it, I feel like I should love this show but I just don't.
Hard to put it into words. :-P
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Dec 12, 2013 12:35 PM

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Amazing episode imo, really like the sentimental speech from Mirai when she left a message from Akihito. What's best that she is back in the ending scene :D

Those fight scenes, as well as Akkey's mom came by XD, just made the episode great. Also the op combining with the ed song made full of hype for next week's episode.

 
Dec 12, 2013 1:38 PM

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Holy Shit! This episode was amazing! im not sure how anyone could have anything bad to say about this episode! :)
 
Dec 12, 2013 2:40 PM
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Dat dropkick.

Dat was one long ass text.

"Senpai,I don't feel unpleasant at all." Ofc.

Lol @ dat punch & Akihito's mom.Even more when I saw what she was wearing.

Akihito reunited with Mirai.The whole scene with Akihito running to her seemed so overdramatic/forced.


 
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Dec 12, 2013 3:02 PM

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Damn those last few minutes were awesome
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Dec 12, 2013 3:08 PM

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Gotta say, Akihito's mom saved the episode from coming off as cringe-worthy to me.
 
Dec 12, 2013 3:15 PM

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Holy Shit! This episode was amazing! im not sure how anyone could have anything bad to say about this episode! :)

I have quite a few but the main one was the bad guy we still don't know shit about, explaining what's going on while talking to himself and constructing a weird device (we also don't know shit about) powered by his car. That was some golden lazy storytelling.
Also, the weird mother seemed very out of place and Sakura is as useless as ever.

On the bright side, the action scenes were very nice to look at.
 
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Litrydow said:
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Well, the Kyo-Ani haters aside, the first 6 or so episodes contained a lot of filler that had little to do with the main plot, and for several episodes, because of this, the show drifted around without seeming to have any direction. Pacing problems are one of the biggest turnoffs for people.

But of course once they got back to the actual novels the show found its grove and improved dramatically.

It's the other way around. Kyo ani went original from the filler fan-service episode and onwards.

Have any novel readers, or anyone for that matter, confirmed that? If it's true, I have to praise KyoAni for fixing the story.


The anime went anime original after the 2nd episode. Actually, even the first 2 episodes had a lot of revisions to accommodate the changes the anime made. The Hollow Shadow arc is the story for the first volume, but it was SIGNIFICANTLY altered for the first arc of the anime. In fact, a lot of the characteristics and themes from the Kyoukai no Kanata arc from the anime consists of stuff they took from the original Hollow Shadow arc. They basically split the the Hollow Shadow arc into the anime Hollow Shadow arc and the anime Kyoukai no Kanata arc. They then filled the gaps with anime original content.

In the LN, Akihito's mom comes in at the last minute to save the day too.
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