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Dec 11, 2013 2:31 PM

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Only 2 more episodes to go! I think Kyoukai no Kanata is up there for surprise of the fall season. By the way, anyone else thinks that the ED in this is flawless? That song is just so awesome! Can't wait for next week!
 
Dec 11, 2013 2:34 PM

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Akkey's mom's hilarious. So did Akkey get back his immortality or some thing back when he joined with the Mirai's Akkey version?
 
Dec 11, 2013 2:36 PM

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Ending made my heart flutter.

His mom was quite amusing too. Though I do wish they got a bit into his history/backstory or something.
 
Dec 11, 2013 2:42 PM

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Dat shiny sphere...
Made my eyes sparcle.
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Dec 11, 2013 2:42 PM

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too many unexplained plot holes :\
felt really rushed

 
Dec 11, 2013 2:43 PM

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Zeally said:
too many unexplained plot holes :
felt really rushed


Geeze, it is not finished yet...
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Dec 11, 2013 2:48 PM

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A lot of action happening in that other world.

Funny how the guys were just sitting there while watching Akihito and his mom argue lol.
 
Dec 11, 2013 2:50 PM

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0-fu_k-giver said:
Zeally said:
too many unexplained plot holes :
felt really rushed


Geeze, it is not finished yet...


i know but there's only 2 episodes left :c


this anime has the best op/ ed tho!!

 
Dec 11, 2013 2:52 PM

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Is it really the final ep next week? But its 13 eps in all right? hm. Good ep. Fan service from Akkey's mom this time.
 
 
Dec 11, 2013 2:58 PM

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amazing episode
explained a bit more about the story, but she's still pretty much stuck

Akihito's mother came out of nowhere showing how to save Mirai, I found forced through this part ..

really like this anime scene cuts, as well as the soundtrack
 
 
Dec 11, 2013 3:02 PM

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Akihito's mom is so cutee. I hope she explain how she knew those things.
So much happened in the last few seconds. Can't wait for the next episode!
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Dec 11, 2013 3:10 PM

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this was an amazing episode! akkey's mom is hot and i loved the ending with the OP song insert, so good :D
 
Dec 11, 2013 3:25 PM

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Felt rushed. This show doesn't really create an atmosphere for me because it's squeezing too much stuff in one episode.

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Dec 11, 2013 3:26 PM

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Every episode thus far is so <3

Akki's mother got introduced, which is nice and I like the way she acts, even for her age :)

The ending was so amazing, Akihito saving Mirai, aiding her against Beyond the Boundary <3
 
Dec 11, 2013 3:27 PM
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Akihito's mother showing up and knowing what to do was surprising at first but I think I understand now. Remember when Izumi showed up and Akkey's mother recognized her and even said her name? The two seem to know each other somehow and I'm sure their relationship will be explained either next episode or the last episode (episode 13). Remember My guess is Akkey's mother somehow got that information from Izumi, but she was unwilling to tell our half youmu pervert. That's just a theory, but it seems very likely.
 
Dec 11, 2013 3:33 PM
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This episode was spectacular. My feeling are overflowing right ugh I can't stop
 
Dec 11, 2013 3:40 PM

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Zeally said:
too many unexplained plot holes :
felt really rushed


Yeah, it's looking like last week is going to hold up as the episode that had the least overall problems of any episode in this show. We're back to 2/5 territory here again sadly after a more decent effort last time. I find it funny that this episode got the title Black World when it was last episode that felt more melancholic.
 
Dec 11, 2013 4:21 PM
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amazing episode
explained a bit more about the story, but she's still pretty much stuck

Akihito's mother came out of nowhere showing how to save Mirai, I found forced through this part ..

really like this anime scene cuts, as well as the soundtrack


My theory is that Izumi went seeking advice with Aki's mom after her original plan failed, and it was Aki's mom that came up with the "Mirai sacrifices" plan.
 
 
Dec 11, 2013 4:28 PM
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artesox said:
drama_menck said:
amazing episode
explained a bit more about the story, but she's still pretty much stuck

Akihito's mother came out of nowhere showing how to save Mirai, I found forced through this part ..

really like this anime scene cuts, as well as the soundtrack


My theory is that Izumi went seeking advice with Aki's mom after her original plan failed, and it was Aki's mom that came up with the "Mirai sacrifices" plan.

That's another theory I hadn't thought of. Man I really can't wait to find out how Aki's mom knows so much.
 
Dec 11, 2013 5:15 PM

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Story so far. Hope I got this all right.

Nase Izumi contacts Kuriyama Mirai offering her a task of vanquishing great calamity bringer Beyond the Boundary. Mirai transfer to same class as Akihito (BtB host) and starts killing him.

Due to being fused with Beyond the Boundary Akihito is immortal and as such Mirai attacks are harmless. First tactics failed.

Second opportunity came when Hollow Shadow came to the city. Mirai wanted to beat him as a revenge for childhood friend death but failed. Akihito the immortal helped her by becoming host to the Hollow Shadow. They won and Akihito gone wild.
He was later subdued with the help of Nase family and his teacher. Mirai once again failed to kill Beyond the Boundary weakened by Hollow Shadow. She got too attached to Akihito.

Then the Calm came. Izumi made sure that Akihito would manifest into Beyond the Boundary. Izumi told Mirai that She can use her cursed blood and draw BtB from Akihito and thus save him.
Mirai did just that. What Izumi didn't predict was that Beyond the Boundary would fuse with Mirai (or her blood) and seal both of them in pocket dimension. Mirai was able to battle BtB for 3 month without taking a break.

How was Mirai able to fight for so long? Cursed blood, sad memories, BtB taking all super natural power from humans or maybe Mirai wish for Akihito to have normal life. Since they are one then they are immortal and can battle for all eternity.

With tiny shard snapped from Beyond the Boundary Akihito goes to save Mirai and after few more action packed scenes they finally reunite.

Then the freaking episode ends :(
 
Dec 11, 2013 5:29 PM

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The fight scenes and the shots of the boundary were amazing.
A son hitting his mother, nobody has a problem with that? no? okay, her knight gag was hilarious.
 
Dec 11, 2013 5:41 PM

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This episode was so awesome and action packed for a second I thought this was the last episode of the series and I got sad but it is not WOOT!'

Great episode!!!
 
Dec 11, 2013 5:46 PM

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Series really bumped up its storytelling but I feel the pacing is way too fast now. Packed too much explanation into one episode. The scene with Akihito running to Mirai was good with the OP song which I love. I know your mom is annoying but you don't need to knock her around, I know it was supposed to be funny but it really bothered me for some reason.
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Dec 11, 2013 6:18 PM

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Now that was friggin awesome, I love this show
 
Dec 11, 2013 6:25 PM

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gosh that ending!! That "serves you right" word! This episode is really 15/10 to me! (except when Yayoi appears..)
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Dec 11, 2013 6:41 PM
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Akihito able to freely transform his right hand/arm into youmu form now? :O

Regardless of what the haters say, I'd still be happy to have a second season of KnK.
 
Dec 11, 2013 6:43 PM
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thats one heck of an episode and lol at the mother she is hot though and last episode next week! i hope its a happy ending one
 
Dec 11, 2013 6:49 PM
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How was Mirai able to fight for so long? Cursed blood, sad memories, BtB taking all super natural power from humans or maybe Mirai wish for Akihito to have normal life. Since they are one then they are immortal and can battle for all eternity.


It's a spirit world, so it is not like Mirai needs food or sleep there. Mirai could fight so long because she knew that defeating the BtB would save Akihito in the real world. The doll of Akihito she created was to ground her during the fight and remind her of why she was fighting. So basically love was where she got the strength. BtB wouldn't have been able to last forever, it was actually losing and was draining Youmu and Spirit Warriors in the real world in a desperate attempt to save itself, but had not the Magical Association Person interfered, Mirai would have defeated it and both she and the BtB would disappear together.

The two big remaining questions are, what role Akihito's mother plays in all this. We will not get the answer to that (most likely) since the novels are still be published (or at least are much longer than this series and I figure that is a huge plot point), that is annoying but nothing we can do about that (assuming that this arc isn't completely different from the novels), the bigger question I have is why the Magical Association guy is doing all this. I hate shows and books where the evil guy just does evil things because he is evil. I really hope and expect a better explanation for his motives (unless they already did it and I just missed it). Knowledge and power are lame reasons. I also have to question the logic behind a car battery being able to power up BtB that much. I know, artistic license, but still pretty stupid license (youmu are supposed to be weak because of light (which electricity provides), and a car battery why not a friggin 9 volt battery if you are going to do that.

That last one is a very very very minor complaint, just something that bugged me.
 
 
Dec 11, 2013 7:24 PM

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Akihito's mum is so random and funny. Loved how he caught Kuriyama as she was falling. The final battle is beginning.
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Dec 11, 2013 7:45 PM

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Is it just me or have a lot of people given up on this show way too early?

I remember when this series was within it's first 6 or 7 episodes and people were calling it a massive disappointment from Kyoto Ani. However, it seems like they really didn't give this series a chance to come to fruition. The last 3 or 4 episodes have been simply outstanding. I'd even put this up there with Hyouka in regards to how great its been.
 
 
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I think I have a serious problem. Based on the comments, it seems like I'm the only one who's not enjoying this as much as I should. I know I was supposed to feel something when Akihito read Mirai's message but...I didn't feel anything. If any, all I saw was a label "this is the scene where we want you to feel sad" but that didn't resonate with me.

Also, that part with Aki's mom...it felt forced. She was hilariously random but it just felt out of place? Like okay shit's going down, youmus are floating and getting sucked into that sphere. The group races to the club room (why the club room btw?!) when they saw that flier stating Mirai's alive. They open the door. Then the gag happens. It broke, no, annihilated the ongoing flow as well as the "shit just got real" atmosphere.

When a writer uses the "for some unknown reason, X happened" card, it usually means "we're not sure which direction we want to take this" but that scene with Aki asking his mom to tell him about herself someday...well that kind of made me less worried. Also a hook for another season obviously.

And a car battery powering up that uh...thing. I need to get in touch with that dude and ask him where he gets his car batteries because mine gets easily discharged.

So tell me, am I just nitpicking or is there really a problem with the storytelling?

The animation for the action scenes was amazing though I'll give them that.
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Dec 11, 2013 8:25 PM
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Is it just me or have a lot of people given up on this show way too early?

I remember when this series was within it's first 6 or 7 episodes and people were calling it a massive disappointment from Kyoto Ani. However, it seems like they really didn't give this series a chance to come to fruition. The last 3 or 4 episodes have been simply outstanding. I'd even put this up there with Hyouka in regards to how great its been.


Well, the Kyo-Ani haters aside, the first 6 or so episodes contained a lot of filler that had little to do with the main plot, and for several episodes, because of this, the show drifted around without seeming to have any direction. Pacing problems are one of the biggest turnoffs for people.

But of course once they got back to the actual novels the show found its grove and improved dramatically.
 
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Although the ending was a lil rushed (i wanted more of dem feels) but IT WAS BEEEEAUTIFULLLL ^~^


And the long wait for the next ep begins
 
Dec 11, 2013 9:08 PM

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damn I love this kind of anime... where they will show you boring stuff for the first 9 episodes and from episode 10 up to the last everything will be explained and nothing but badass and epic moments will happen...

epic scene that matches with the epic ED... dayuuuuuum!
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Dec 11, 2013 9:37 PM
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rather mediocre episode, but awesome ending
 
 
Dec 11, 2013 9:44 PM

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Akkey's mom has got it goin' on
She's all I want and I've waited for so long
Mirai, can't you see you're just not the girl for me
I know it might be wrong but I'm in love with Akkey's mom
 
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Takuan_Soho said:
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Is it just me or have a lot of people given up on this show way too early?

I remember when this series was within it's first 6 or 7 episodes and people were calling it a massive disappointment from Kyoto Ani. However, it seems like they really didn't give this series a chance to come to fruition. The last 3 or 4 episodes have been simply outstanding. I'd even put this up there with Hyouka in regards to how great its been.


Well, the Kyo-Ani haters aside, the first 6 or so episodes contained a lot of filler that had little to do with the main plot, and for several episodes, because of this, the show drifted around without seeming to have any direction. Pacing problems are one of the biggest turnoffs for people.

But of course once they got back to the actual novels the show found its grove and improved dramatically.


Have to agree with you there, they spent a little too much time with the filler(especially the episode with the fruit youmu) when they could have been expanding on the story more, however the last few episodes have been great.

Also a lot of people should consider finishing the series they have dropped after they end since they could turn out completely different then you expect them to be. I mean I wasn't very fond of Shin Sekai no Yori, but I came back to it and now its one of my top 10 ^^.
 
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His mom :P

Next is last ep! Mal says there is 13 :/
 
Dec 11, 2013 10:24 PM

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Series really bumped up its storytelling but I feel the pacing is way too fast now. Packed too much explanation into one episode.

This. If the series didn't use up so much time on filler and instead focused on plot, then this would have easily become one of the best anime of the year. Now I feel cheated as I watch these later episodes not being able to forget the disappointment in the beginning.
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Dec 11, 2013 10:30 PM

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This was a pretty great episode! No wonder this is one of the series I look forward to the most every week!
 
Dec 11, 2013 10:45 PM

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Aki's mom was great XD
 
Dec 11, 2013 11:17 PM

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I like the last two episodes but this episode felt too rushed man.Now only if they could've done more when they were airing fillers. So dumb. I was really hoping Mirai dies. It would leave more impact in the series. I dno't hate her but I think it would've been a great ending. Text scene didn't leave an impact at all. didn't make me cry or didn't leave an epic feeling like Chuunibyou.

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Dec 11, 2013 11:54 PM

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This had gone from an easy 6.5 to a solid 9 for me in just two episodes.
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I know this is just a cartoon and not to be taken seriously, but it still bothered me. I don't care what kind of culture you're from, you should never physically abuse your own mother. :(
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Dec 12, 2013 1:32 AM

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Amazingly beautiful animation. Like the best of any tv anime.

Good episode, a bit more complicated then I'd have liked.
 
Dec 12, 2013 5:23 AM
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EVERYTIME the opening is blended into the actual content of an anime, i go crazy and get goosebumps. (anyone remember the digimon adventure's ending where they have to leave the digiworld and suddenly the opening starts while i-only-know-her-german-name-damn throws her hat to her digimon? i just started crying like crazy haha)

this episode was SO good though. makes me desperately want to read the light novels, but alas, i don't want to start when it hasn't been translated completely yet. ///
 
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Takuan_Soho said:
Toucanbird said:
Is it just me or have a lot of people given up on this show way too early?

I remember when this series was within it's first 6 or 7 episodes and people were calling it a massive disappointment from Kyoto Ani. However, it seems like they really didn't give this series a chance to come to fruition. The last 3 or 4 episodes have been simply outstanding. I'd even put this up there with Hyouka in regards to how great its been.


Well, the Kyo-Ani haters aside, the first 6 or so episodes contained a lot of filler that had little to do with the main plot, and for several episodes, because of this, the show drifted around without seeming to have any direction. Pacing problems are one of the biggest turnoffs for people.

But of course once they got back to the actual novels the show found its grove and improved dramatically.


But this is not from the novel. Vol.1 only included Hollow Shadow arc so I don't know what you're saying.

KyoAni is only animating the first novel.

Edit: Rougly 80-90% is original from 6 and beyond.
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Mirai is still alive. My goodness. I really love how the Nase siblings stood up to Izumi this time.
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Takuan_Soho said:


Well, the Kyo-Ani haters aside, the first 6 or so episodes contained a lot of filler that had little to do with the main plot, and for several episodes, because of this, the show drifted around without seeming to have any direction. Pacing problems are one of the biggest turnoffs for people.

But of course once they got back to the actual novels the show found its grove and improved dramatically.

It's the other way around. Kyo ani went original from the filler fan-service episode and onwards.
 
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tsudecimo said:
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Well, the Kyo-Ani haters aside, the first 6 or so episodes contained a lot of filler that had little to do with the main plot, and for several episodes, because of this, the show drifted around without seeming to have any direction. Pacing problems are one of the biggest turnoffs for people.

But of course once they got back to the actual novels the show found its grove and improved dramatically.

It's the other way around. Kyo ani went original from the filler fan-service episode and onwards.

Have any novel readers, or anyone for that matter, confirmed that? If it's true, I have to praise KyoAni for fixing the story.
 
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