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Here are the weekly Blu-ray & CD rankings for Dec 2nd - Dec 8th

Rank / This week's sales by copies / Cumulative sales / Titles

Blu-ray
1. 13,466 13,466 Free! Vol.4
2. 12,397 12,397 Mononoke Hime
3. *8,717 *8,717 Hataraku Maou-sama! Vol.6
4. *6,008 *6,008 Senki Zesshou Symphogear G: In the Distance, That Day, When the Star Became Music... Vol.3
5. *4,055 *4,055 Kill Me Baby Blu-ray Box
6. *1,886 38,600 Monogatari Series: Second Season Nekomonogatari (Shiro) Vol.2 Tsubasa Tiger 2 of 2
7. *1,859 *1,859 Neko no Ongaeshi/Ghiblies Ep.2
8. *1,854 16,041 Uta no☆Prince-sama♪ Maji Love 2000% Vol.6
9. *1,647 *1,647 Pokemon: The Origin
(cut-off 1,647)


DVD
*1. 8,042 *,**8,042 Free! Vol.4
*2. 2,164 *,**2,164 Doraemon: Nobita no Himitsu Dougu Museum
*3. 1,801 *,**1,801 One Piece 15th Season Gyojintou-hen Vol.13
*4. 1,691 *,**1,691 One Piece 15th Season Gyojintou-hen Vol.14
*5. 1,673 *,**1,673 Aikatsu! Vol.7
*6. 1,592 *,**1,592 Hataraku Maou-sama! Vol.6
*7. 1,476 *,**5,728 Detective Conan Movie 17: Private Eye in the Distant Sea Regular Edition
*8. 1,468 1,226,159 Tonari no Totoro
*9. 1,455 *,**8,922 Detective Conan Movie 17: Private Eye in the Distant Sea Limited Edition
10. 1,420 *,*11,411 Uta no☆Prince-sama♪ Maji Love 2000% Vol.6
11. 1,150 *,**1,150 Toriko Movie: Bishokushin no Special Menu
12. *,901 *,***,901 Naruto: Shippuuden Ninkai Taisen - Kanata kara no Kougekisha Vol.4
13. *,867 *,***,867 Pokemon: The Origin
14. *,723 *,**3,161 One Piece: Episode of Merry - Mou Hitori no Nakama no Monogatari Limited Edition
15. *,660 *,524,103 Majo no Takkyuubin
16. *,625 *,***,625 Senki Zesshou Symphogear G: In the Distance, That Day, When the Star Became Music... Vol.3
17. *,571 *,***,571 YanYan Machiko Vol.3
18. *,566 *,**1,975 Lupin III vs. Detective Conan Movie Premiere Celebration Edition
19. *,547 *,366,652 Mononoke Hime
20. *,543 *,*12,039 Shingeki no Kyojin Vol.5
21. *,502 *,**5,824 Crayon Shin-chan Movie 21: Bakauma! B-Kyuu Gourmet Survival Battle!!
(cut-off 502)


CD Single
*5. 28,290 423,417 Naruto: Shippuuden OP "Tsuki no Ookisa" by Nogizaka 46
*6. 25,813 *25,813 Pokemon XY OP "V (Volt)" by Yusuke
*7. 16,074 *16,074 Detective Conan ED “Ima Aitakute…” by DAIGO
24. *3,928 **3,928 Yozakura Quartet: Hana no Uta ED “Tsukiyomi” by phatmans after school
27. *3,685 *40,443 Love Live! School Idol Project Music S.T.A.R.T!! by μ's
29. *3,254 *13,161 Machine-Doll wa Kizutsukanai ED "Maware! Setsugetsuka" by Hitomi Harada, Ai Kayano, & Yui Ogura
31. *3,113 **3,113 Meganebu! ED “Colorful World” by Tomohisa Sako
42. *1,869 **1,869 Samurai Flamenco ED "Date TIME" by Mineral Miracle Muse
43. *1,808 *10,445 Kuroko no Basket Character Song (Makoto Hanamiya) "Mad Breaker" by Jun Fukuyama
49. *1,649 *10,497 Kuroko no Basket Character Song (Tatsuya Himuro) "Ready Fight!!" by Kishou Taniyama
51. *1,517 *54,824 Mahou Shoujo Madoka★Magica Movie 3: Hangyaku no Monogatari ED "Kimi no Gin no Niwa" by Kalafina
52. *1,507 **9,993 Magi: The Kingdom of Magic ED "Eden" by Aqua Timez
55. *1,409 230,810 Shingeki no Kyojin OP "Jiyuu e no Shingeki (Guren no Yumiya/Jiyuu no Tsubasa)" by Linked Horizon
56. *1,375 113,170 Kakumeiki Valvrave 2nd Season OP "Kakumei Dualism" by Nana Mizuki x T.M.Revolution
57. *1,370 **9,354 Detective Conan OP "Butterfly Core" by VALSHE
59. *1,356 *67,023 Mahou Shoujo Madoka★Magica Movie 3: Hangyaku no Monogatari Theme Song "Colorful" by ClariS
69. *1,142 **4,866 Kyoukai no Kanata ED "Daisy" by STEREO DIVE FOUNDATION
71. *1,128 **7,931 Strike the Blood ED "Strike my soul" by Yuka Iguchi
72. *1,123 *,*16,306 Kill la Kill OP "Sirius" by Eir Aoi
79. *1,019 *,*19,480 Yozakura Quartet: Hana no Uta OP "Sakura no Ato (all quartets lead to the ?)" by UNISON SQUARE GARDEN
(cut-off 1,000)


CD Album
11. 11,907 11,907 Sazae-san OST
16. *8,769 55,638 Gintama Best 3
26. *5,454 *5,454 New Prince of Tennis Bunta Marui Character Song Album “Bun Bun A La Carte” by Naozumi Takahashi
87. *1,307 27,302 Yukari Tamura "Rasen no Kajitsu" by Yukari Tamura
91. *1,228 19,447 The iDOLM@STER 765Pro AllStars+ Gre@test Best! -Cool & Bitter!-
94. *1,136 *3,999 Yozakura Quartet: Hana no Uta Character Song CD & OST "Sakura Shinbachi no Narashigata."
(cut-off 1,025)

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Nothing really interest me here aside for HaMaou.
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CD Single
24 *3,928 **3,928 Yozakura Quartet: Hana no Uta ED “Tsukiyomi” by phatmans after school
29 *3,254 *13,161 Machine-Doll wa Kizutsukanai ED "Maware! Setsugetsuka" by Hitomi Harada, Ai Kayano, & Yui Ogura
31 *3,113 **3,113 Meganebu! ED “Colorful World” by Tomohisa Sako
51 *1,517 *54,824 Mahou Shoujo Madoka★Magica Movie 3: Hangyaku no Monogatari ED "Kimi no Gin no Niwa" by Kalafina
52 *1,507 **9,993 Magi: The Kingdom of Magic ED "Eden" by Aqua Timez
55 *1,409 230,810 Shingeki no Kyojin OP "Jiyuu e no Shingeki (Guren no Yumiya/Jiyuu no Tsubasa)" by Linked Horizon
56 *1,375 113,170 Kakumeiki Valvrave 2nd Season OP "Kakumei Dualism" by Nana Mizuki x T.M.Revolution
57 *1,370 **9,354 Detective Conan OP "Butterfly Core" by VALSHE
79 *1,019 *,*19,480 Yozakura Quartet: Hana no Uta OP "Sakura no Ato (all quartets lead to the ?)" by UNISON SQUARE GARDEN

CD Album
94 1,136 3,999 Yozakura Quartet: Hana no Uta Character Song CD & OST "Sakura Shinbachi no Narashigata."

<3 I'm glad that Colorful World is there, and Butterfly Core stays!
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Dec 10, 2013 2:35 AM
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5. *4,055 *4,055 Kill Me Baby Blu-ray Box

This is best joke this series made so far :D
I would never guess those sales months ago, not after quite disastrous individual volume sales.
 
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Happy for Hataraku Maousama! but...

69. *1,142 **4,866 Kyoukai no Kanata ED "Daisy" by STEREO DIVE FOUNDATION
Man :(
 
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21k for free ..well that's quite a drop
 
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Happy for:

27. *3,685 *40,443 Love Live! School Idol Project Music S.T.A.R.T!! by μ's
29. *3,254 *13,161 Machine-Doll wa Kizutsukanai ED "Maware! Setsugetsuka" by Hitomi Harada, Ai Kayano, & Yui Ogura


Wish these were doing better:

69. *1,142 **4,866 Kyoukai no Kanata ED "Daisy" by STEREO DIVE FOUNDATION
71. *1,128 **7,931 Strike the Blood ED "Strike my soul" by Yuka Iguchi


Sad for Date Time as I absolutely love this song by Mineral Miracle Muse, the best fake idol group name ever, love it! Only good thing for me personally is it means I was able to get a first press bonus edition when I thought they were sold out which made me very happy until I saw these sales:

42. *1,869 **1,869 Samurai Flamenco ED "Date TIME" by Mineral Miracle Muse


Surprised these are still, STILL charting:

55. *1,409 230,810 Shingeki no Kyojin OP "Jiyuu e no Shingeki (Guren no Yumiya/Jiyuu no Tsubasa)" by Linked Horizon
56. *1,375 113,170 Kakumeiki Valvrave 2nd Season OP "Kakumei Dualism" by Nana Mizuki x T.M.Revolution



BD
4. *6,008 *6,008 Senki Zesshou Symphogear G: In the Distance, That Day, When the Star Became Music... Vol.3
5. *4,055 *4,055 Kill Me Baby Blu-ray Box

DVD
16. *,625 *,***,625 Senki Zesshou Symphogear G: In the Distance, That Day, When the Star Became Music... Vol.3

Happy that Symphogear v6 is at least maintaining v2 sales for the most part. Episodes 5-6 are super awesome, especially great to see without the dark gore censorship. Hibiki! And Orbital Beats on OST CD3 is awesome too.

Kill Me Baby! So funny, Bluray Box sells more than the original discs... could it have a week 2? Go for 5K!!! Season 2! LOL
 
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One of those Mononoke Hime numbers is my BD purchase :D. Mononoke Hime was absolutely gorgeous in HD, worth every $.

Dat Kill Me Baby though... ~^o^~
 
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So what did maou's average out to in sales?

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

 
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silverwalls said:
21k for free ..well that's quite a drop


Volume 1 withot event ticket had 26k sales first week it was volume 1 somit's bound to sell better. Remember that this is only the first week. By the second week it could come to 23-24k.

It's only a 5k drop really. A bit more than expected but defintely not a disaster.
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5. *4,055 *4,055 Kill Me Baby Blu-ray Box

This is best joke this series made so far :D
I would never guess those sales months ago, not after quite disastrous individual volume sales.


The manga itself is pretty good, and the anime had a lot of potential. Too bad they got a complete idiot and flop as director (the same bastard who ruined Little Buster).
 
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So what did maou's average out to in sales?


Currently 11,278... but it'll chart again next week.

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Oricon Daily All-Genre Top 30 DVD/Top 20 BD Rankings for Dec 9.

DVD
**9 *10 *11 *12 *13 *14 *15  週
**7 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Free!4
*17 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Tonari no Totoro
*28 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Detective Conan Movie 17

BD
**9 *10 *11 *12 *13 *14 *15  週
**3 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Free!4
**4 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Mononoke Hime
**6 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Hataraku Maou-sama!6
**8 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Shingeki 5
*10 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | SymphogearG 3
*12 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | NekoShiro 2
*18 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | UtaPri 2000% 6
*20 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Detective Conan Movie 17
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Ejc said:
JizzyHitler said:
So what did maou's average out to in sales?

Currently 11,278... but it'll chart again next week.
Thats good to hear, glad the series did that well. Heres hoping they are more inclined to do a 24 episode series for it seeing how the first season only adapted 2 of the 9 novels

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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

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Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

 
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The manga itself is pretty good, and the anime had a lot of potential. Too bad they got a complete idiot and flop as director (the same bastard who ruined Little Busters).
If you consider the Little Busters! adaptation a ruined one, then I'm not really sure what to say. Especially considering that the most important part of the anime hasn't even been aired yet.

But then again, it seems that most of the (almost exclusively VN player) disdain on MAL toward the adaptation isn't necessarily because of what the anime did and how, but rather, how it differed from what people blindly assumed KyoAni would've done.

Seriously, I saw someone call Little Busters! the next Tsukihime in terms of "adaptation failure." If people really take it that far, then I don't think even Black Jack could help them.
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Blu-ray
1. 13,466 13,466 Free! Vol.4
3. *8,717 *8,717 Hataraku Maou-sama! Vol.6


SEASON TWO , WE NEED IT.
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AndyRayy said:
scytheavatar said:
The manga itself is pretty good, and the anime had a lot of potential. Too bad they got a complete idiot and flop as director (the same bastard who ruined Little Busters).
If you consider the Little Busters! adaptation a ruined one, then I'm not really sure what to say. Especially considering that the most important part of the anime hasn't even been aired yet.

But then again, it seems that most of the (almost exclusively VN player) disdain on MAL toward the adaptation isn't necessarily because of what the anime did and how, but rather, how it differed from what people blindly assumed KyoAni would've done.

Seriously, I saw someone call Little busters! the next Tsukihime in terms of "adaptation failure." If people really take it that far, then I don't think even Black Jack could help them.
It is terrible. I played like an hour of LB! VN and it was infinitely better than what I saw in anime - bland characters, unfunny jokes, rushed, seemingly (seemingly because I'm rather sure it's done properly in VN. Certainly isn't in anime's Komari arc) forced drama, mediocre art...
 
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It is terrible. I played like an hour of LB! VN and it was infinitely better than what I saw in anime - bland characters, unfunny jokes, rushed, seemingly (seemingly because I'm rather sure it's done properly in VN. Certainly isn't in anime's Komari arc) forced drama, mediocre art...
Fair enough.

However, I've played the entire visual novel (interestingly, I started and finished it around the midpoint of the first season airing) and let me just be honest here: the hype that the VN players spread about LB! being the next Clannad and whatnot are, in my option, completely unfounded. Especially considering that the positive reception from Little Busters! quite literally comes entirely from its refrain arc, as in, the season currently airing now since it evolves into more than just the whole "kids messing around a cat delivering random messages" kind of story.

While I can at least understand why someone would find the art to be "mediocre", the other things you listed are just as prevalent in the VN (except perhaps the rushed bit, but when you have an infamously long VN to animate with as small a budget as they did, things are bound to turn out that way).

Other than the main 5, the drama of the girls all felt silly to me reading in the visual novel. The characters only actually started to interest me once the refrain arc started (which is exactly what I'm seeing is the case for a lot of the viewers of the current season) and


I hope people who aren't fully acquainted with the VN aren't letting the unfounded hype convince them that the adaptation is a failed one, since all of the problems that people seem to generally complain about are, at least in my opinion, equally prevalent in the source material. So if people feel so strongly that the anime is bad, then they would probably think the exact same thing if they fully played the original.
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I loved and bought the first season of Little Busters! I am one of the few it seems who thought it was really well done, really well adapted as an anime, not as an attempt to blindly copy some routes in the game.

It isn't over so far but I'm not getting the same feeling in Refrain. I have no plans to buy it at this point. Definitely seems like they haven't taken as much care to make it feel like an anime story rather than just showing some routes from a game. It is a very tough arc to adapt. Refrain is super awesome amazing in the game but I think it works better as VN than anime without more adaptation than they've done. Which would anger the VN fans but IMO if you're making an anime you have to make enough of an adaptation to make sure it is a good anime, not just a decent retelling of a game.
 
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There's nothing I really care about in this week's sales. Except -monogatari and the Pokemon Origins thing maybe.
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11. 1,150 *,**1,150 Toriko Movie: Bishokushin no Special Menu

1150 in 2 days is pretty amazing

toriko ftw :)


i wonder why the blu ray version isnt ranked xd

how much dvd/bluray does a movie need to sell in order to break even?
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how much dvd/bluray does a movie need to sell in order to break even?
Certainly much more than two episodes of TV series. Looking at its performance Toriko movie has no chance of breaking even with BDs/DVDs alone. However I'm pretty sure it already broke even with ticket sales, not to mention boosts to manga or merchandise sales.
 
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Progeusz said:
aboe said:
how much dvd/bluray does a movie need to sell in order to break even?
Certainly much more than two episodes of TV series. Looking at its performance Toriko movie has no chance of breaking even with BDs/DVDs alone. However I'm pretty sure it already broke even with ticket sales, not to mention boosts to manga or merchandise sales.


do u think the movies boosted or will boost the volume sales?
 
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21k for free ..well that's quite a drop
I had to recheck my math when I first did the addition there. I was like "Wait, am I missing something here?" Hopefully residual sales will pick up the slack. Other than that though, I'm not really interested in anything else here.

It would have been nice to see a few more sales for Hidamari~

 
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Pokémon: The Origin isn't as high as I was hoping...
Bum Bum Dum Dum

 
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Yaaaaay! Free!!! ^3^ best anime ever.
 
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Pokémon: The Origin isn't as high as I was hoping...


It isn't surprising that its BD/DVD sales hasn't met your expectations... Most mainstream and kid's anime typically do poorly in BD/DVD sales, with a few exceptions. They rely more on miscellaneous sales such as merchandise, music, etc and also on TV ratings.
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do u think the movies boosted or will boost the volume sales?
I'm not following sales of Toriko closely but if there was a boost (I believe there was), it happened back when the movie was airing in cinemas. DVD/BD release of anime has no impact on sales of manga.

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Pokémon: The Origin isn't as high as I was hoping...


It isn't surprising that its BD/DVD sales hasn't met your expectations... Most mainstream and kid's anime typically do poorly in BD/DVD sales, with a few exceptions. They rely more on miscellaneous sales such as merchandise, music, etc and also on TV ratings.
Are you implying that this year's adaptation of the game from 90's is kids' anime? People who played I Gen when it came out (the anime represents our mindset very accurately - in Origins Red is making the same mistakes and takes the same approach to training as we did when we first played the game years ago) are all over 20 years old now.
 
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WOW NICE!!Toriko Movie: Bishokushin no Special Menu dvd/blu ray are out of stock on amazon.jp and also out of stock on TOEI's website!

that means it must be doing well :D
 
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5. *4,055 *4,055 Kill Me Baby Blu-ray Box

This is best joke this series made so far :D
I would never guess those sales months ago, not after quite disastrous individual volume sales.


The manga itself is pretty good, and the anime had a lot of potential. Too bad they got a complete idiot and flop as director (the same bastard who ruined Little Buster).


I've read that the Japanese otaku really got into the show halfway through, hence why it's doing better now than it did back then. And that pleases me, because I really liked it and it might revitalize the possibility for more.

OT: Machine Doll ED is doing quite well. That makes me happy.
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KMB was underestimated? Thats good news.

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Are you implying that this year's adaptation of the game from 90's is kids' anime? People who played I Gen when it came out (the anime represents our mindset very accurately - in Origins Red is making the same mistakes and takes the same approach to training as we did when we first played the game years ago) are all over 20 years old now.


I-it was that long ago..? Damn...
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*5. 28,290 423,417 Naruto: Shippuuden OP "Tsuki no Ookisa" by Nogizaka 46

It surprised me... Why so much?
 
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*5. 28,290 423,417 Naruto: Shippuuden OP "Tsuki no Ookisa" by Nogizaka 46

It surprised me... Why so much?
This post ought to clear things up a bit.

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My current guesstimate is that it'll end up around 24k total, and v5-6 will do roughly the same. If that plays out, final average will be right around 28k.
That definitely sounds good to me. Even with a bit of a drop, a final average that high is nothing to sneeze at.
Thursday! It should hit at least 16k on Thursday I'd think, needs less than 700 more BDs to reach that.
Ah, I see!

That's definitely good news then. This is one show I hope Shaft keeps making more of and more of until people stop buying it; just goes to show that "milking" can most certainly bring out the best of a series. Now just waiting patiently for next season announcement.

Thank you for the detailed response.
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3. *8,717 *8,717 Hataraku Maou-sama! Vol.6

Season 2 when?!

I'm also happy to see this:
6. *1,886 38,600 Monogatari Series: Second Season Nekomonogatari (Shiro) Vol.2 Tsubasa Tiger 2 of 2
 
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still hoping for that Maou-Sama! season 2 announcement..
 
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I'm surprised that Symphogear is selling well as this anime is not very popular in MAL. I Hope that there is 3rd season

And also like to see 2nd season for Maou-Sama
 
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Nice to see Aikatsu and pokémon on the list.
 
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Love Live! motherfuckers goin HAM holy shit I can't compete
 
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So many love for Sazae-san OST. :D
「友達なんていない。人はすぐに裏切るし、学校っていうのは誰かを標的にしないとやってられない馬鹿共の集 まり。ままごとみたいな役決めて、仲のいいふりして都合が悪くなったら知らんぷり。そんな奴らと仲良くした いとか全然思わない。」
 
Dec 10, 2013 3:48 PM

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Yay for Hataraku~

 
Dec 10, 2013 4:54 PM

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MAOU RULES!!!

SECOND SEASON PLS!!!!
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Dec 10, 2013 5:05 PM

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Ulrihs said:
5. *4,055 *4,055 Kill Me Baby Blu-ray Box

This is best joke this series made so far :D
I would never guess those sales months ago, not after quite disastrous individual volume sales.


The manga itself is pretty good, and the anime had a lot of potential. Too bad they got a complete idiot and flop as director (the same bastard who ruined Little Buster).


I expected a lot from little busters since so man people said that the VN was godly...but I sure hate that anime series
 
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Always happy to see Free! doing well. :)
 
Dec 10, 2013 6:31 PM
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I expected a lot from little busters since so man people said that the VN was godly...but I sure hate that anime series


Others tried to temper expectations. On the VN, half the writing team was new, and it showed. LB scores so well because most readers like Refrain a lot.

Some readers like all of Little Busters. They're the ones hyping the VN to bits.
Some enjoy certain routes (Mio and Kurugaya often deemed to be flawed but better), but not the others. Refrain makes up for any doubts.
Some are more or less unhappy with all routes except Rin + Refrain.

The gist of it is that dissatisfaction is negated by Refrain buzz, so there are lots of happy readers. In the end, the bad parts are validated on the rationale that they prepare us for the main course: Rin and Refrain.

Responses to the anime actually parallel game reception. People tend to hate (Komari's arc in particular) and like the corresponding parts, with the current season even winning over several viewers who were disappointed by the first.
 
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The Little Buster Adaptation in a nutshell:

The adaptation doesn't even deserve to be called Little Busters. Every bit of comedy is terribly worse than in the anime. The animation is crap and inconsistent, and the directing is laughable. The pacing is awful. Every character is significantly worse and less dynamic than they were in the VN. The foreshadowing is excessive, forced, and unnecessary. Watching Riki in 3rd person help a watered down heroine in a watered down heroine route that is reduced to 25% of the dialogue, FRIENDSHIP via detatchment of the characters, lack of intimacy between the heroine and Riki, and thus the characters and the viewer, and bad pacing overall. The heroine routes are plain boring compared to how they should be. They seem to have no other way to make the how interesting due to their lack of talent and budget. Without going into specific detail, the anime is barely half as good as the VN. I can't blame anyone for liking every other Key adaptation but this, because this doesn't even feel like "Little Busters" for 95% of the show. It feels like some scummy cheap adaptation stealing the name, and some loose idea of how the plot and characters are supposed to be presented. I don't care if you don't even like the characters, because on average, they're 1/10th as great and likable as they are in the VN. They lost their dynamic and developing personalities through the poor series composition and voice directing in the anime.

If you did enjoy the adaptation, good for you. I'm glad JCS's interpretation of the events didn't ruin the experience like it did for a lot of people. Little Busters could've been something amazing, mindblowing, and repeatedly heartbreaking if it was done right.

So, if you think our ideas are unfounded, cool.
There are plenty of people who hate the anime and like the VN.
A few people like AndyRayy finding the entire VN to be mediocre up until Refrain doesn't mean that it was. The common routes and heroine routes were much better in the VN.
If you can't comprehend the FACT that the common route comedy and heroine routes were better in the VN than the anime, then you have literally no room to talk. The fanbase that enjoyed the source material in its entirety for its execution, and was disappointed by how mediocre it transitioned to anime is who gets the say here.

There were, at most, 5 concepts or scenes that even improved in the anime, while hundreds were made worse.


The point about the VN art being bad and the anime art being bad is unfounded, because this is a different medium, and reading and listening to endless monologues in an ANIME because there isn't budget for enjoyable animation is a reason to find it less enjoyable.

So, please, come at me with any argument you have that the adaptation's poor reception is based on the source material. The fact is that they've made nearly every aspect of the VN worse, and failed to consciously create a more consistently enjoyable series.
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Love Live Longevity Project

I personally never got why Key stuff is so hyped up to begin with. When it comes to VN stuff I totally get Type/Moon's popularity and I'm starting to see things from Leaf/Aquaplus and AGE lately (I've always liked Eushully and Alicesoft though) but Key is just kind of like....meh. The shows just seem weirdly juxtaposed with awkward arguably funny comedy segments towards the beginning and extremely emotionally manipulative stuff at the start and I just don't particularly care for their casts much usually. There was usually like one character I really felt even the slightest interest in and any of them and the rest of them just kind of felt too cutesy and childish to really feel any particular way about. I don't know, maybe Key is just not for me.

All I remember with Little Busters is the tremendous amount of butthurt that it was J.C Staff and not Kyoto Animation working on the project. It was honestly kind of amusing watching the nuclear meltdown of the fandom from a distance having no particular interest in Key stuff by that point.

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Pokémon: The Origin isn't as high as I was hoping...


Kids show. Those make their bones via merchandising and selling games.

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I'm surprised that Symphogear is selling well as this anime is not very popular in MAL. I Hope that there is 3rd season

And also like to see 2nd season for Maou-Sama


There's no such thing as a correlation between what MAL thinks and what sells in Japan otherwise you'd have things like Love Live bombing hard and Chihayafuru being a mega seller.
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Heh, if there was a correlation with MAL and Japan's taste, shows that get 2 or 3 seasons to sell the source material that are popular over here like TWGOK would just have infinite seasons or full adaptations.
 
Dec 10, 2013 7:49 PM

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69. *1,142 **4,866 Kyoukai no Kanata ED "Daisy" by STEREO DIVE FOUNDATION


Noooooo, the song is really good! :(

"Let me keep believing... so that I can keep on living."
 
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I was hesitant to make my initial post about the Little Busters! VN as I was aware of the possibility that it could start to turn this thread into a full blown visual novel vs. anime assault.

Vlazd0r:


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tsubasalover said:

69. *1,142 **4,866 Kyoukai no Kanata ED "Daisy" by STEREO DIVE FOUNDATION
Noooooo, the song is really good! :(
I just noticed that.

Darn, I really like that song too. Oh well, you win some and you lose some, I suppose.
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Nice response. I'm glad you stayed much more neutral than I expected.
I don't consider LB a failed adaptation. It presents what the VN did, but it really just didn't have that same spark that it had.

I said I enjoyed the VN in the common route and heroine routes, but I felt the same thing as you, like "Can we just move on with things?" towards the beginning of the routes. I still found them to get a lot better and more engaging by the end, even if they beat around the bush for the first hour, and the common route is incredibly long.
I just think they selected segments of the heroine routes and common route pretty quickly, and wrote the script pretty quickly, and it was too fast paced. They removed plenty of the bad parts, but removed dozens of great parts as well, sadly, when a lot of them didn't need to be removed. (I'm referring to things like in Masato's arc with him reaching out to Rin, for example, that aren't related to the romance->friendship change)).The character interactions, the comedy, and the pacing could've been improved easily with more budget and episodes, and maybe a director who was more dedicated to the show, because Yamakawa only directs the climactic episodes in the series, and there are weaker directors working with less budget for the remainder of the episodes, and it definitely shows and makes the experience inconsistent.

Refrain aims pretty high with what emotional heartstrings it tried to pull, and in order that the kind of intense drama in some of the LB routes to be good, that extra padding and character attachment through the excessively long common route, good parts and bad, seemed necessary.

I don't think it's a failure of an adaptation. I think it's a better adaptation than Fate/Stay Night was, because that felt plain bland to watch after reading the VN. It's certainly no Tsukihime either.
It's just decent, and the characters feel more ordinary in the anime and to anime viewers than they felt to me.

I just want people to come to know the Little Busters the way I did, and I felt entitled to the level of special treatment and quality presentation from Key's other adaptations. The story and concepts are still there, and if we're going be story rather than the natural experience of watching the show, the LB anime could still equate to something good for a lot of it.

Now, about the LB anime thing.
http://visualnovelaer.fuwanovel.org/2011/11/vava-answers-why-was-little-busters-never-made-into-an-anime/

They turned down an adaptation by Aniplex that would've been 13 episodes for LB (way too short), and they stopped waiting for KyoAni. It seems like for some reason, they thought LB was fine as a VN only, but after years of not doing much more besides EX, Kud Wafter, Rewrite, and Maeda's anime-original Angel Beats, they finally got a decent offer for Little Busters through Warner Bros. and JC Staff.

So yeah, the adaptation isn't terrible. It's average or decent, maybe 60% of where it should be in terms of developing and leading up to the emotions of the VN.
 
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Non Non Biyori flying high on stalker, having been in the top 50 for 32 of the last 33 hours. Even the DVD seems to be getting in on the act.

Nice to have my favourite anime of the season actually on the top of the rankings for once.
Weekly light novel releases (from 20/10/2014)
Bestselling light novel volumes of the year/all time* (and more in the same club).
*that there is data for

There is no such thing as shit taste. Only idiots who think everyone should have the same taste as they do.
 
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