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Nov 26, 2013 11:07 AM
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Ok, this is off topic, but, the scence where setsuna is singing to that song in the car, is that a real song? And if so, does anyone know it?

Btw, I'm new here nice to meet everyone. :)
 
Nov 26, 2013 11:36 AM

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MagicFlier said:
AsianKungFu said:
Why did Haruki started dating Setsuna when he doesn't even seem in love with her? although i'm rooting for Setsuna i don't want them to end up like this. This episode is a slap on the face saying Kazusa is the main heroine and Setsuna is the fifth wheel.

This is True Tears all over again
Haruki = Shinichiro, Hiromi = Kazusa, Noe = Setsuna

It seems like Haruki is starting to become an indecisive bastard...

Mixed baths anyone?

He doesn't even love her? ...Are we even watching the same show here?

It's already shown that Haruki is attracted to Setsuna in some way.
We've also already been shown that Haruki is convinced that Kazusa doesn't seem to be attracted to him through a few implications it seems. He even told Kazusa directly that he started dating Setsuna. Setsuna made the first move, and she got her prize, simple as that; And he accepted it because he is also attracted to Setsuna, so at this point he still hasn't realized his true feelings on who he is actually attracted to.
There is no rule where you can only be attracted to a single girl or guy. So you could say he loves them both.
Love is all about indecisiveness if your rash with your decisions. That doesn't mean any of the people involved are to blame though, because you can't help but be rash when your experiencing something the first few times.


That...is actually very well put and I don't think I could have explained it to AsianKungFu better myself.

No offense AsianKungFu, but if we went by your mindset, the act of "cheating" would never exist. As MagicFlier so eloquently put it, Haruki simply feels conflicted because he's essentially in love with two girls. Yes, that is POSSIBLE and due to the circumstances surrounding Haruki, Kazusa, and Setsuna just so happen to be creating such a case.

With that being said, does that make Haruki a bad person? Does that make all people who cheat in relationships bad people? No. While there are some bad people that cheat, good people making poor decisions can cheat as well.

It certainly isn't unnatural to like two girls at the same time. Hell, even I'll admit I like two girls at the moment (and strangely enough out of a strange set of circumstances, I cannot date either of them since one is studying in NYC and the other is studying in Calgary...with myself being stuck in-between studying in Minnesota). You make it sound simple when feelings don't work that way. It is incredibly difficult to part ways with someone that you have feelings with and Haruki is in a difficult position because not only would that be potentially damaging to his relationship to Setsuna, but the friendship the three of them share together as well.

It's a slippery slope to say the least and that's what gives this series a rather ominous feel. We've heard bits and pieces of Haruki's inner monologue about the events that have taken place and the tone of his voice gives this series the feel that he feels deep regret for something. I'm interested in seeing how this plays out and this series might dive into the details of what happens when you engage in two relationships at the same time (here's hoping this series doesn't turn out like School Days). Kanpai! *taps glasses with both of you*
 
Nov 26, 2013 11:54 AM
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I agree, great evaluation.
 
Nov 26, 2013 12:49 PM

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lawl white album 2 is similar to true tears/kimikiss but not as crap basically (well IC at the very least).

True tears basically failed to show any proper chemistry between the MC and Hiromi. So when he picked her at the end, it felt empty and a lot of audience members couldn't even see why he would pick her other than she was hotter (and yeah that really is the only reason the show ever gave). While at least in WA2 he's been shown to have chemistry with both girls. It's much much much better written in that regard.
 
Nov 26, 2013 1:36 PM

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Glad to see someone else actually understands on how Haruki feels about his dilemma.

You're okay to hate his actions and decisions, but please try to understand on how hard it is for him and for both of the girls, there's no easy path for Haruki to choose.

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Nov 27, 2013 3:32 AM

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Glad to see someone else actually understands on how Haruki feels about his dilemma.

You're okay to hate his actions and decisions, but please try to understand on how hard it is for him and for both of the girls, there's no easy path for Haruki to choose.


agree, whatever path it take, a girl will be broken a part, i got surprise about this episode, but i just think its the calm before the storm, it was clearly evident that haruki has feeling for touma and touma for haruki, the show clealy showed it when touma say about boyfriend, the show focused on the haruki reaction followed by setsuna seeing it.

p.s he will be difficult for our MC... excited for the sequel, actually this show is so far VERY GOOD 9/10, a great potential forward it
 
Nov 27, 2013 11:06 AM

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Thanos_ said:
HowTragic said:
kaimax said:
HowTragic said:
Looks like the performance was really the pinnacle of this season. Unfortunately, it's looking more like a generic love-triangle romance anime now.


NOPE
I assure you, If it was generic, it won't get many awards in 2011. And the VN community is pretty strict about it.
Getchu awards version 2011
-Best General (Overall)
-Best Scenario
-Best Music
-Best Character
White Album 2 won 4 from the 8 available categories (the rest was System/Graphic/Movie/Erotic)

It's a fact that the original story is rated highly by the masses, But all of that still depends on the adaptation of the 2nd part of the story since that's the part where the stories starts having routes and multiple endings.
( 1. Intro "this season"-> 2. Closing -> 3. Coda)


While I appreciate your efforts to provide a rebuttal, I can't help but notice "VN community" in your case. My opinion applies to the 8th episode of the anime. I said nothing about what quality the visual novel is. Most people who have played a visual novel before the anime adaption notice that comparing the two is woefully illogical. In my case, the 11eyes visual novel was tiers above the anime adaption, which failed to emphasize the important points of realization in the game, and felt like a hollow clusterfuck of sequential events. Is this reflected in the ratings? Yes. The VN made a name for Lass as one of the most popular visual novels of its time, yet most of of the fans consider the anime to be a travesty.

It has nothing to do with how great the original VN is. The problem lies with how well the studio fits the most impact of a 100 hour game within a short span of 4-8 hours. We're on MAL to talk about anime, not about the visual novel. If I wanted to ragebash the VN, I'd go on vndb and do it there. (which I won't because I'm playing WA1 as an testament to how much I enjoy the VN series)

Also, I don't exactly recall asserting that the anime was going to be the "generic" anime. I simply said that it was looking like one based on the current episode, since it is showing eerily similar scenes (protag spinelessness, heroines doing whatever the fuck they want with that "Got a problem?" attitude). It certainly wasn't what I expected after the bang that the original White Album went out with.


The anime is very close to the source material. Is being adapted by the creator of the visual novel. And it's not 50-100 hours, since only the first part is being adapted (6-10 hours only).


I think it's quite obvious that Leaf is listed as the "original creator", since in any adaption of a VN, the VN creator is listed as such. Thus, I don't see why "adapted by the creator of the visual novel" provides any contextual support. The studio, Satelight, decides nearly every aspect of the anime, ranging from how much budget is allocated to it, into how the episode is organized. Realize how LITTLE of an influence the original creator actually has on the anime adaption. In Leaf's case, they might have the funding to contribute a little bit to the animation (unlike poor mangakkas who are merely elated by the fact that their work is being animated), but unless they own the studio (which they don't, as Satelight is a subsidiary of the Sankyo Group), they really don't do anything.

Also, I don't quite understand what the "it's not 50-100 hours, since only the first part is adapted" is suppose to imply. I already stated that in my previous comments that adaptions need to cut down 50-100 hours of story into 4-10 hours of animation.

Lastly, if you really have never seen a romance anime with similar love-triangle development, then either you don't watch much anime, or you're seeing new and innovative non-existent scenes in this anime. Episode 8 was the epitome of a generic love-triangle anime with people being all emotional, MC being spineless, heroines being bleh. After the enjoyable first 7 episodes that the series built up, I find it irksome if it ends on this note for the rest of the season. I sincerely hope they step it up the next episode.
 
Nov 27, 2013 11:52 AM
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HowTragic said:
Thanos_ said:
HowTragic said:
kaimax said:
HowTragic said:
Looks like the performance was really the pinnacle of this season. Unfortunately, it's looking more like a generic love-triangle romance anime now.


NOPE
I assure you, If it was generic, it won't get many awards in 2011. And the VN community is pretty strict about it.
Getchu awards version 2011
-Best General (Overall)
-Best Scenario
-Best Music
-Best Character
White Album 2 won 4 from the 8 available categories (the rest was System/Graphic/Movie/Erotic)

It's a fact that the original story is rated highly by the masses, But all of that still depends on the adaptation of the 2nd part of the story since that's the part where the stories starts having routes and multiple endings.
( 1. Intro "this season"-> 2. Closing -> 3. Coda)


While I appreciate your efforts to provide a rebuttal, I can't help but notice "VN community" in your case. My opinion applies to the 8th episode of the anime. I said nothing about what quality the visual novel is. Most people who have played a visual novel before the anime adaption notice that comparing the two is woefully illogical. In my case, the 11eyes visual novel was tiers above the anime adaption, which failed to emphasize the important points of realization in the game, and felt like a hollow clusterfuck of sequential events. Is this reflected in the ratings? Yes. The VN made a name for Lass as one of the most popular visual novels of its time, yet most of of the fans consider the anime to be a travesty.

It has nothing to do with how great the original VN is. The problem lies with how well the studio fits the most impact of a 100 hour game within a short span of 4-8 hours. We're on MAL to talk about anime, not about the visual novel. If I wanted to ragebash the VN, I'd go on vndb and do it there. (which I won't because I'm playing WA1 as an testament to how much I enjoy the VN series)

Also, I don't exactly recall asserting that the anime was going to be the "generic" anime. I simply said that it was looking like one based on the current episode, since it is showing eerily similar scenes (protag spinelessness, heroines doing whatever the fuck they want with that "Got a problem?" attitude). It certainly wasn't what I expected after the bang that the original White Album went out with.


The anime is very close to the source material. Is being adapted by the creator of the visual novel. And it's not 50-100 hours, since only the first part is being adapted (6-10 hours only).


I think it's quite obvious that Leaf is listed as the "original creator", since in any adaption of a VN, the VN creator is listed as such. Thus, I don't see why "adapted by the creator of the visual novel" provides any contextual support. The studio, Satelight, decides nearly every aspect of the anime, ranging from how much budget is allocated to it, into how the episode is organized. Realize how LITTLE of an influence the original creator actually has on the anime adaption. In Leaf's case, they might have the funding to contribute a little bit to the animation (unlike poor mangakkas who are merely elated by the fact that their work is being animated), but unless they own the studio (which they don't, as Satelight is a subsidiary of the Sankyo Group), they really don't do anything.

Also, I don't quite understand what the "it's not 50-100 hours, since only the first part is adapted" is suppose to imply. I already stated that in my previous comments that adaptions need to cut down 50-100 hours of story into 4-10 hours of animation.

Lastly, if you really have never seen a romance anime with similar love-triangle development, then either you don't watch much anime, or you're seeing new and innovative non-existent scenes in this anime. Episode 8 was the epitome of a generic love-triangle anime with people being all emotional, MC being spineless, heroines being bleh. After the enjoyable first 7 episodes that the series built up, I find it irksome if it ends on this note for the rest of the season. I sincerely hope they step it up the next episode.


When I talked about the creator of the original visual novel, I mean he is the supervisor of the anime script, and wrote scripts for all the episodes of the anime. Maruto the writer of the visual novel and the anime is the same.

And you do not seem to understand how the relationship between producer and studio works in this case. Satelight decides nothing. The studio is just an employee.

Who decides the rest is anime production committee, which is led by Aquaplus guess what, company that owns Leaf and made the visual novel. She is the main financier of this anime and decide the budget and all the rest. Satelight is not on the production committee.

So, in this case the writer here is what has the greatest influence, as well as writing all the episodes, is a member of Aquaplus.

And about the hours. The anime is not adapting 50-100 hours. But, it's adapting only 8-10 hours. White Album 2 is separated in two parts, the first part of 8-10 hours, the second part 50-80 hours. The anime only covers the first part.

So the time difference between the first part of the VN and anime is not much.

About similar love triangle anime, I just say for the moment, wait and see.
 
Nov 27, 2013 1:10 PM

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was expecting some Tragic Car Accident then give them amnesia and thus the problem begin .... hope its better than that.. i just can't wait

in the bath with them? woah what is this! the first time i saw the guy didn't get kicked out of the space or slap so hard! lol! one lucky Bastard!
"I don't like Megane, I love them"

 
Nov 27, 2013 11:23 PM

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Thanos_ said:
HowTragic said:
Thanos_ said:
HowTragic said:
kaimax said:
HowTragic said:
Looks like the performance was really the pinnacle of this season. Unfortunately, it's looking more like a generic love-triangle romance anime now.


NOPE
I assure you, If it was generic, it won't get many awards in 2011. And the VN community is pretty strict about it.
Getchu awards version 2011
-Best General (Overall)
-Best Scenario
-Best Music
-Best Character
White Album 2 won 4 from the 8 available categories (the rest was System/Graphic/Movie/Erotic)

It's a fact that the original story is rated highly by the masses, But all of that still depends on the adaptation of the 2nd part of the story since that's the part where the stories starts having routes and multiple endings.
( 1. Intro "this season"-> 2. Closing -> 3. Coda)


While I appreciate your efforts to provide a rebuttal, I can't help but notice "VN community" in your case. My opinion applies to the 8th episode of the anime. I said nothing about what quality the visual novel is. Most people who have played a visual novel before the anime adaption notice that comparing the two is woefully illogical. In my case, the 11eyes visual novel was tiers above the anime adaption, which failed to emphasize the important points of realization in the game, and felt like a hollow clusterfuck of sequential events. Is this reflected in the ratings? Yes. The VN made a name for Lass as one of the most popular visual novels of its time, yet most of of the fans consider the anime to be a travesty.

It has nothing to do with how great the original VN is. The problem lies with how well the studio fits the most impact of a 100 hour game within a short span of 4-8 hours. We're on MAL to talk about anime, not about the visual novel. If I wanted to ragebash the VN, I'd go on vndb and do it there. (which I won't because I'm playing WA1 as an testament to how much I enjoy the VN series)

Also, I don't exactly recall asserting that the anime was going to be the "generic" anime. I simply said that it was looking like one based on the current episode, since it is showing eerily similar scenes (protag spinelessness, heroines doing whatever the fuck they want with that "Got a problem?" attitude). It certainly wasn't what I expected after the bang that the original White Album went out with.


The anime is very close to the source material. Is being adapted by the creator of the visual novel. And it's not 50-100 hours, since only the first part is being adapted (6-10 hours only).


I think it's quite obvious that Leaf is listed as the "original creator", since in any adaption of a VN, the VN creator is listed as such. Thus, I don't see why "adapted by the creator of the visual novel" provides any contextual support. The studio, Satelight, decides nearly every aspect of the anime, ranging from how much budget is allocated to it, into how the episode is organized. Realize how LITTLE of an influence the original creator actually has on the anime adaption. In Leaf's case, they might have the funding to contribute a little bit to the animation (unlike poor mangakkas who are merely elated by the fact that their work is being animated), but unless they own the studio (which they don't, as Satelight is a subsidiary of the Sankyo Group), they really don't do anything.

Also, I don't quite understand what the "it's not 50-100 hours, since only the first part is adapted" is suppose to imply. I already stated that in my previous comments that adaptions need to cut down 50-100 hours of story into 4-10 hours of animation.

Lastly, if you really have never seen a romance anime with similar love-triangle development, then either you don't watch much anime, or you're seeing new and innovative non-existent scenes in this anime. Episode 8 was the epitome of a generic love-triangle anime with people being all emotional, MC being spineless, heroines being bleh. After the enjoyable first 7 episodes that the series built up, I find it irksome if it ends on this note for the rest of the season. I sincerely hope they step it up the next episode.


When I talked about the creator of the original visual novel, I mean he is the supervisor of the anime script, and wrote scripts for all the episodes of the anime. Maruto the writer of the visual novel and the anime is the same.

And you do not seem to understand how the relationship between producer and studio works in this case. Satelight decides nothing. The studio is just an employee.

Who decides the rest is anime production committee, which is led by Aquaplus guess what, company that owns Leaf and made the visual novel. She is the main financier of this anime and decide the budget and all the rest. Satelight is not on the production committee.

So, in this case the writer here is what has the greatest influence, as well as writing all the episodes, is a member of Aquaplus.

And about the hours. The anime is not adapting 50-100 hours. But, it's adapting only 8-10 hours. White Album 2 is separated in two parts, the first part of 8-10 hours, the second part 50-80 hours. The anime only covers the first part.

So the time difference between the first part of the VN and anime is not much.

About similar love triangle anime, I just say for the moment, wait and see.


First of all, just because Fumiaki Maruto is the original script writer for the visual novel and the anime does not mean that he can operate above time and animation constraints. He has tens of thousands of lines to express his story in the VN. This is cut down to 20 minutes worth of lines per episode. How well he is able to make this transitions speaks for the quality of the anime. I'm assuming that your argument is that because the script writer is the same for both and anime and VN, and the VN was rated was winning whatever awards, the anime is, by default, free from flaw and riding on the VN's fame (and even if it isn't, it's irrelevant). Unfortunately that's not how I rate things. I judge based on what I see, not what is backing it up.
I'm convinced that it is you who have no idea what the relationship between original creator and studio is. I'm curious on why you seem to be so complacent on your explanation of how producer and studio works. Do you have some sort of support behind this or are you subtly making things up as you go along? What's your evidence for the entire anime production committee led by Aquaplus? Is the Shingeki committee led by the non-existence "Shingeki Company" comprised of author, Hajime Isayama? No. The committee is more likely comprised mostly of officials from the studio, and then perhaps Isayama and/or the publishing company. The reason why so many anime adaptions of visual novels are such travesty is because the original creator has little to no saying in how it is produced. The amount of control each company has in the anime adaption might vary (with Aquaplus being more of the controlling side), but I'm going to go out on the whim and say: "Eroge companies don't want to make their anime adaptions look like shit if they can help it." Unfortunately, so many do end up just that.

About the hours: You seem to realize that intro is 10 hours, while the closing chapters is 50-100 hours of text. While you might argue that this first season is only narrating 10 hours of story, that leaves the second 13 episode season to narrate the remaining 50-100 hours. I don't see how I'm mistaken, nor do I see how this is relevant to the argument at hand. Fitting 100 hours into 6 hours is an unfortunate fact of adaptions. Doesn't mean we should be lowering out standards to accommodate.

The last thing is something that I really hope people would pull their heads out and understand already. I'm a music guy. To me the concert is the pinnacle of the anime since I can close my eyes and imagine how exciting it must be to be in that situation. This holds the same for WA1, iM@S and other music orientated anime. This is an opinion. It is not a cleverly disguised attack to kick fanboys in the cherry while snickering behind. I couldn't care less about what other people think of something, as we're all entitled to our own opinions, and that's theirs. But I do believe I'm entitled to my own without people trying to press their views onto me, taking my opinion as a fact that's challenging their precious waifus and feelz. I tend to overlook comments and replies unless it's someone obnoxiously quoting wrong information and calling an opinion wrong. Freedom of opinion. I know, I'm asking for a lot.
 
Nov 28, 2013 12:53 AM

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HowTragic said:

The last thing is something that I really hope people would pull their heads out and understand already. I'm a music guy.

What exactly is your point here? I'm a musician as well, and I don't know what the relevance of this statement is.
 
Nov 28, 2013 9:11 AM
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HowTragic said:
Thanos_ said:
HowTragic said:
Thanos_ said:
HowTragic said:
kaimax said:
HowTragic said:
Looks like the performance was really the pinnacle of this season. Unfortunately, it's looking more like a generic love-triangle romance anime now.


NOPE
I assure you, If it was generic, it won't get many awards in 2011. And the VN community is pretty strict about it.
Getchu awards version 2011
-Best General (Overall)
-Best Scenario
-Best Music
-Best Character
White Album 2 won 4 from the 8 available categories (the rest was System/Graphic/Movie/Erotic)

It's a fact that the original story is rated highly by the masses, But all of that still depends on the adaptation of the 2nd part of the story since that's the part where the stories starts having routes and multiple endings.
( 1. Intro "this season"-> 2. Closing -> 3. Coda)


While I appreciate your efforts to provide a rebuttal, I can't help but notice "VN community" in your case. My opinion applies to the 8th episode of the anime. I said nothing about what quality the visual novel is. Most people who have played a visual novel before the anime adaption notice that comparing the two is woefully illogical. In my case, the 11eyes visual novel was tiers above the anime adaption, which failed to emphasize the important points of realization in the game, and felt like a hollow clusterfuck of sequential events. Is this reflected in the ratings? Yes. The VN made a name for Lass as one of the most popular visual novels of its time, yet most of of the fans consider the anime to be a travesty.

It has nothing to do with how great the original VN is. The problem lies with how well the studio fits the most impact of a 100 hour game within a short span of 4-8 hours. We're on MAL to talk about anime, not about the visual novel. If I wanted to ragebash the VN, I'd go on vndb and do it there. (which I won't because I'm playing WA1 as an testament to how much I enjoy the VN series)

Also, I don't exactly recall asserting that the anime was going to be the "generic" anime. I simply said that it was looking like one based on the current episode, since it is showing eerily similar scenes (protag spinelessness, heroines doing whatever the fuck they want with that "Got a problem?" attitude). It certainly wasn't what I expected after the bang that the original White Album went out with.


The anime is very close to the source material. Is being adapted by the creator of the visual novel. And it's not 50-100 hours, since only the first part is being adapted (6-10 hours only).


I think it's quite obvious that Leaf is listed as the "original creator", since in any adaption of a VN, the VN creator is listed as such. Thus, I don't see why "adapted by the creator of the visual novel" provides any contextual support. The studio, Satelight, decides nearly every aspect of the anime, ranging from how much budget is allocated to it, into how the episode is organized. Realize how LITTLE of an influence the original creator actually has on the anime adaption. In Leaf's case, they might have the funding to contribute a little bit to the animation (unlike poor mangakkas who are merely elated by the fact that their work is being animated), but unless they own the studio (which they don't, as Satelight is a subsidiary of the Sankyo Group), they really don't do anything.

Also, I don't quite understand what the "it's not 50-100 hours, since only the first part is adapted" is suppose to imply. I already stated that in my previous comments that adaptions need to cut down 50-100 hours of story into 4-10 hours of animation.

Lastly, if you really have never seen a romance anime with similar love-triangle development, then either you don't watch much anime, or you're seeing new and innovative non-existent scenes in this anime. Episode 8 was the epitome of a generic love-triangle anime with people being all emotional, MC being spineless, heroines being bleh. After the enjoyable first 7 episodes that the series built up, I find it irksome if it ends on this note for the rest of the season. I sincerely hope they step it up the next episode.


When I talked about the creator of the original visual novel, I mean he is the supervisor of the anime script, and wrote scripts for all the episodes of the anime. Maruto the writer of the visual novel and the anime is the same.

And you do not seem to understand how the relationship between producer and studio works in this case. Satelight decides nothing. The studio is just an employee.

Who decides the rest is anime production committee, which is led by Aquaplus guess what, company that owns Leaf and made the visual novel. She is the main financier of this anime and decide the budget and all the rest. Satelight is not on the production committee.

So, in this case the writer here is what has the greatest influence, as well as writing all the episodes, is a member of Aquaplus.

And about the hours. The anime is not adapting 50-100 hours. But, it's adapting only 8-10 hours. White Album 2 is separated in two parts, the first part of 8-10 hours, the second part 50-80 hours. The anime only covers the first part.

So the time difference between the first part of the VN and anime is not much.

About similar love triangle anime, I just say for the moment, wait and see.


First of all, just because Fumiaki Maruto is the original script writer for the visual novel and the anime does not mean that he can operate above time and animation constraints. He has tens of thousands of lines to express his story in the VN. This is cut down to 20 minutes worth of lines per episode. How well he is able to make this transitions speaks for the quality of the anime. I'm assuming that your argument is that because the script writer is the same for both and anime and VN, and the VN was rated was winning whatever awards, the anime is, by default, free from flaw and riding on the VN's fame (and even if it isn't, it's irrelevant). Unfortunately that's not how I rate things. I judge based on what I see, not what is backing it up.
I'm convinced that it is you who have no idea what the relationship between original creator and studio is. I'm curious on why you seem to be so complacent on your explanation of how producer and studio works. Do you have some sort of support behind this or are you subtly making things up as you go along? What's your evidence for the entire anime production committee led by Aquaplus? Is the Shingeki committee led by the non-existence "Shingeki Company" comprised of author, Hajime Isayama? No. The committee is more likely comprised mostly of officials from the studio, and then perhaps Isayama and/or the publishing company. The reason why so many anime adaptions of visual novels are such travesty is because the original creator has little to no saying in how it is produced. The amount of control each company has in the anime adaption might vary (with Aquaplus being more of the controlling side), but I'm going to go out on the whim and say: "Eroge companies don't want to make their anime adaptions look like shit if they can help it." Unfortunately, so many do end up just that.

About the hours: You seem to realize that intro is 10 hours, while the closing chapters is 50-100 hours of text. While you might argue that this first season is only narrating 10 hours of story, that leaves the second 13 episode season to narrate the remaining 50-100 hours. I don't see how I'm mistaken, nor do I see how this is relevant to the argument at hand. Fitting 100 hours into 6 hours is an unfortunate fact of adaptions. Doesn't mean we should be lowering out standards to accommodate.

The last thing is something that I really hope people would pull their heads out and understand already. I'm a music guy. To me the concert is the pinnacle of the anime since I can close my eyes and imagine how exciting it must be to be in that situation. This holds the same for WA1, iM@S and other music orientated anime. This is an opinion. It is not a cleverly disguised attack to kick fanboys in the cherry while snickering behind. I couldn't care less about what other people think of something, as we're all entitled to our own opinions, and that's theirs. But I do believe I'm entitled to my own without people trying to press their views onto me, taking my opinion as a fact that's challenging their precious waifus and feelz. I tend to overlook comments and replies unless it's someone obnoxiously quoting wrong information and calling an opinion wrong. Freedom of opinion. I know, I'm asking for a lot.


The production committee is in the credits. It is something well known, is not a secret or anything like that. The production committe consists in AQUAPLUS, PROJECT W.A2 (AQUAPLUS created the name for the Leaf employees involved in the anime, Maruto included) and Starchild Records. Sometimes some anime studios are part of the committee, this is not the case here with Satelight. (Sunrise, Kyoani, Production IG are often a part of committes) They are listed in order of investments. And it's really rare that a visual novel company lead committees to produce their own animes. White Album 2 is one of these rare cases.

Again I say that the studio is only employee in this case. Makes no decision in production or anything budget related. They receive the budget from the committee and work with it.

This link is useful (primarily 2.3 and 2.31 relative to this discussion). http://www.mania.com/aodvb/showpost.php?p=2036845&postcount=3

And how you know the second season will have 13 episodes? We don't know if a second season will be produced. We are only talking about this season, and what is being adapted. So what I said before still applies.

I read the original vn and I watch the anime, and I can say this adaptation is very faithful, as much a adaptation can be. I give the credit to the writer Maruto by having greater control over his work, in committee lead by Aquaplus.

I'm convinced that it is you who have no idea what the relationship between original creator and studio is.


I have. This adaptation is different. Most of the adaptations the creator is not directly involved in writing all the episodes. In adaptations usually the creator has no creative decision. White Album 2 is one of the few adaptations which this not the case. I explained the motives above.
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Hey can someone link me the song Setsuna sang in the car plz?
 
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Hey can someone link me the song Setsuna sang in the car plz?


1997 old song, out of nowhere. lol
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Thanks, for the song ill check out your blog.
 
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That BMW Touma was driving is such a fitting car for her! If you know what I mean by watching other BMW drivers in real life. =P
 
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I'd love to hear a full rendition of that song by setsuna's seiyuu(forgot her name). Hopefully they'll release a full cover for it on the soundtrack or something :D
 
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I WANT them to stay together!
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Poor BMW. D:
 
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Yeah I'm pretty sure Kitahara's gay; first the catfight, then the spa scene.

He turns and looks AWAY from the girls both times.
 
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At times like this, I just kinda dislike Setsuna grabbing Haruki in the music room. Scheming girl...haa...

Sometimes, I think Setsuna's a bit childish.

Haruki is so stupid, he obviously likes Touma.

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Haruki, you lucky man! :)
 
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Haruki must've had a boner during the hotspring event. That lucky bastard. XD
 
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smh @ Haruki's situation
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pretty chill
 
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So glad Haruki is a good MC.

The anime seems to be progressing a lot despite there still being so many episodes left.
 
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Haruki, that damn bastard... I kind of feel bad for that other guy (forgot his name) in the club, he missed out on some real fun! Hard luck, dude.
This was a nice episode, as many people have mentioned, there was no drama, which I kind of liked. It was just a fun, heartwarming episode. And Touma is being a really good friend to Setsuna. She hasn't shown any sign of jealousy to Setsuna being a couple with Haruki.

I feel like some big drama is coming their way, though. Looking forward to watching the next ep.
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Seriously, Haruki is such a lucky and unlucky guy at the same. He have two girls clinging up to him, but it's such an awkward and ifficult situation to deal with. Even more that Setsuna really seem to want him to admit his feeling about Touma.

I guess one more episode before their relationship crumble appart.
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I don't know why but I just can't really get into this. My head says "yeah, this show is pretty good" but my feels say "Somehow I don't care about what happens to them". :/
 
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That ending <3 Pretty nice hot spring episode if I say so myself :3
 
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Loved this. Before the kiss, I felt like Haruki liked Toumo for sure - there were so many little clues, little looks - and it's good to see that wasn't just fake suspense.

I feel like they'll show that scene of her teaching him guitar and that's when we'll find out that he's liked her ever since

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Well, that was an unexpected calm.

Is it just me, or does it seem like there are parental vibes going on here (with Setsuna as the "child")?

Speaking of Setsuna, I'm not sure I "get" her. First she was super jealous/clingy, now she's gone into the opposite extreme... to the point of making Touma get in the hot tub with herself and Haruki. I'm going to lol if this ends with Haruki somehow getting both girls. It would decrease the quality of the show, but it'd be funny.

Anyway, to be a bit more serious, Haruki is pretty indecisive. He clearly likes Touma, but she's making it hard for him to tell how she feels. It's quite obvious with Setsuna, on the other hand, and he apparently as least has an infatuation with her. It's hard to tell how this will end. I get the feeling this calm situation won't last long, regardless.

I'm glad he's a modest guy... unlike a few people in here. I know it's a show, but what the crap guys? Females are people too. Please lay aside your fantasy of being in a hot tub with two girls like that for a moment and be a tad realistic about it. If you're decent, it'd either be really awkward, or you wouldn't be thinking about it in those ways. <.<;

Cool episode. Although there's a lot of tension, I think that episode is going to help take the edge off of whatever drama is coming, for me anyway.
 
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Did anyone else notice the swastika on the map at 11.05?
 
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All this build up.... I thought they were gonna pull the 'car accident' card at first, but I'm glad they didn't. Hopefully the climax won't disappoint. Hard to come by decent anime nowadays.

I liked the first White Album so.. I'm hopeful that I'm not wasting my time with this one

Also...

Touma > Setsuna since Ep 1

just sayin'....


Prediction:

Touma's mom came to get her to move to Paris. The MC decided to stop her from going at the last min (airpot scene of some sort). Touma reciprocate the feeling she had for him all slong. Setsuna = heartbroken but she knew it was inevitable. Then they all grow up and move on with Touma, MC, and Setsuna leading different lives but still friends...

or some big accident happen, and we get to see a Kimi ga Nozomu Eien rip-off.

I'm hoping it's not either of those....

Though in the preview from first EP, there is a scene where Touma and MC kissed. So, I'm more incline to think that Touma will take the initiative. But she just wanted to get the feeling off her chest even though she doesn't really want to hurt Setsuna (female logic). But Setsuna just happened to be there when they kissed and all hell broke lose. Then we get to guess who MC will pick, but he probably won't because he doesn't want to hurt any of them. The End.
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I just got a felling... that ending will be very dramatic... it is just too calm to be true.
I'm rooting for Setsuna, I'm totally fallen with her (I'm the only one? heh. Lucky me :D).
I don't hate Kazusa, I actually like her very much, but Setsuna... <3
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tokeya is getting left out. though, he was never really apart of their triangle anyway. but that bath scene tho.
 
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Oh Touma, you big troll. Give Setsuna a break.
 
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This triangle is awkward.
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Nice episode. So I guess Setsuna and Haruki are going out. I wanted Touma to win. Oh well. I feel a love triangle there. Touma is definitely hiding her feelings. It also kida looks like Haruki has some feeling for Touma.

I know Setsuna wants the three of them to stay together but to go into the hot springs together is a bit far. I'm surprised the girls were completely okay with being naked with Haruki.

"I want things to stay like this forever..." Geez, I wonder what going to happen?! I can feel bad things happening soon. For Setsuna at least.

I really like that ED.
 
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The episode demonstrates interesting regarding the dialogues, never predictable; the narrative is slow and slow as in a SOL.
Only thing not really worthy of all this is the quality of the drawings quite enough; same for animation really the limit of decency and with a horrible CG.
 
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The great thing about this anime is the drama isn't blown out of proportion and it isn't a mess (at least not yet). Most anime similar to this creates a lot of unnecessary drama so I can appreciate this anime for steering away from that especially with episodes like this.

Can anyone tell me who wrote the music in that notebook though and the importance of her getting the notebook back a couple of episodes ago? It's been on my mind a lot recently so I thought I'd ask it up now.
 
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Takeya gave her the notebook with music/lyrics that belonged to Haruki. His dream for a song of his to be played was in that notebook. I believe the song was made by him while he thought of Kazusa. She wanted that notebook back because it was Haruki's , because she was working on making the music for his song and because she was in love with him. That notebook was her way of being close to him without looking like a tsundere.
I think that he goes out with Setsuna only to keep her happy and sane after she told him all her friends betrayed her and stopped talking to her. Maybe he likes her a little but i am sure he does not love her.
 
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That moment when you watch a love triangle imagining that you are the MC and how would you solve things out xD
Haruki sure is in a messed up situation... But it's pretty much his fault he didn't solved it earlier. This is so exciting!
 
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Hehe that's a coincidence, watching this episode also on Christmas.
    
   
 
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Setsuna is painfully aware of the true feelings of the 2. That's why she insists on the being together as a group thing.

I like how this series avoids some of the repetitive clichés most rom coms have. The reactions of the characters feel natural and not stupid.
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Huh, I don't hate Setsuna, usually I'm totally into this kind of silly yet loveable cutie, but for some reason I find Kazusa to be more... relatable? She keeps her feelings to herself, not announcing them to entire world (or, possibly even to herself), but I also love her realistic and adult approach to life, especially when compared to Setsuna's "I just wanna be together~" :>

Or that she makes them spend time together, NAKED, nevertheless, when she is the one aware of Haruki's and Kazusa's feelings toward each other... Like, no way that's gonna last girl @_@

I'm not even surprised that Haruki would fall for Touma, especially since he seems to be into her coolness.
 
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Did anyone else notice the swastika on the map at 11.05?


Three years to reply, but I just decided to pick up this series, and enjoyed it quite a bit. The "swastika" is reversed, which means it's the symbol for Buddhism. Likely the marker for a temple.

I like that the series has a lot of subtleties that are not quite as obvious until you stop to think about it. Another example is the left-hand drive BMW 5-series that Kazusa is driving. Never explained, but it's easy enough to guess that since her mom lives in France (and then Austria), the car might have belonged to her mom and imported into Japan from there. Which explains the LHD, and the fact they could not rely on the built-in GPS since it likely only had the map of Europe. Not very useful when trying to find a remote onsen in the middle of Japan...
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the hints for the love triangle...but I guess the three were getting along
 
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Hmm she can anything if she tries, dream girl friend Kazusa Touma.
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Look at this player. Keep up the harem. If Touma ends up winning I'll be pissed. Idols are always the charmers.

 
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