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Funya-Usagi said: haha at least they didn't translate it differently. still not comfortable with the "These are" http://puu.sh/5dcsq.jpg Agreed on how they phrased it. "Such cheap tricks!" would of sounded better. But damn, I loved this episode. Refrain here I come<3. Komari ;_; |
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DeathDoUsPart said: Well, After getting all teared up cause I finished Kotori's route in Rewrite. Time to head onto even more feels on episode 6 on Crunchyroll :c Do yourself a favor and skip lucia route Draakisback said: I cant believe they managed to mess up cheap tricks! As always kyouske delivered his line perfectly but showing what kengo saw was a huge misstep. Then the pacing for this episode, it didnt feel concrete at all, and where was kengo warning riki that if he let go of rin they would fall into darkness or that the only thing waiting for them was despair. I mean i get that JC staff probably wont do a "perspective" shift for everything like the VN but come on really? this was one of the most important parts of the damned story and of Kengo's character development. Not to mention they might as well just come out and tell everyone the secret of the world by now because if you haven't already guessed it then you haven't been paying attention at all. I have a feeling we will get a more in depth explanation of what happened during the baseball match and why that got Kengo angry. If you think about it anime only fans have no idea what happened like the visual novel fans had no idea what happened or why. Hopefully we will get anime original scenes in episode kengo about his Regrets. The episode was executed nicely with Riki really distrusting Kyousuke and getting angry at him. Cant wait to see the anime only fan hate Kyousuke like I hated him. Never have I hated anyone more than Kyousuke in my life.... |
| Wait, did they seriously just put 1 hr+ worth of content into less than 4 mins. Also, they made the ending scene of this episode less dramatic. In the VN I was literally up straight, reading so into it, but nothing, zip at all keened me in. |
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| This was a really intense episode. Poor Komari being left out like that. |
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| This series is soo goood! I can't! Kyouske is such badass! Rin/Riki is such cute couple! Kengo scenes during that baseball-match... I cried... I can't wait whole week for next episode! I want next episode now! |
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Tyrel said: Wait, did they seriously just put 1 hr+ worth of content into less than 4 mins.. You know what J.C. Staff has good character preferences. Glad they did not Wafuu bomb the whole place with the best girl getting the best route. |
| I found it amazing how JC Staff executed the grandparents house scene in like 3 minutes :) aww too bad rin didn't |
| Wow, they cut Rin's highlight of the route. Well that's alright, more Refrain~ |
Draakisback said: I can forgive the pacing of the episode because i know we only have 7 more to go, hell I think that the tension between riki and kyouske was really well done, however, i cant forgive them showing a blatant spoiler right when they did. |
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epic_joelle said: I found it amazing how JC Staff executed the grandparents house scene in like 3 minutes :) aww too bad rin didn't ma nigga. |
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| What did riki forget about in the end? Sorry the website I watched it from froze right before I got to dat part |
epic_joelle said: What did riki forget about in the end? Sorry the website I watched it from froze right before I got to dat part "That to live means to lose" |
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Tyrel said: O thanks :)epic_joelle said: What did riki forget about in the end? Sorry the website I watched it from froze right before I got to dat part "That to live means to lose" |
Draakisback said: Tyrel said: Wait, did they seriously just put 1 hr+ worth of content into less than 4 mins. Also, they made the ending scene of this episode less dramatic. In the VN I was literally up straight, reading so into it, but nothing, zip at all keened me in. I remember rin 2 being a very very sad ending when i first read it, almost balling tears as much as i did in some of the other areas. I also remember cheap tricks being a hugely emotional scene, watching it animated didnt have nearly the impact i was expecting and the rin 2 ending had little if any of the same emotional impact that the VN carried. Join the club, I was sad during Rin's ending scenes during her route. Nada from me though. Poorly executed IMO. The baseball match was good though. |
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| O_O?! They fit it all in one ep!! Damn! Totally didn't expect that at all. It was good though so now Refrain will be perfect. I was worrying about the pacing for Refrain. If it was 6 eps it wouldn't have worked well so now that it's 7 this should be good. As for the ep. I can see lots of people will hate on the pacing but I commend JC for adapting it all like that. The OST was sooo good!! Esp during the match. Loved it. Showing the RinxRiki message scene in a couple of minutes with music playing was a good idea to go over it quickly leaving the emotions intact. Same for Rin and Riki running away and living by their selves. I gotta admit that was pretty damn rushed but I think they handled it pretty well to give the idea. Ofc lots of emotions were lost but still...good enough. Now as for the Baseball match. Leaving aside Miyuki (That's gonna be tough to make an excuse for that. Why!! They could've left it a mystery T_T) Leaving it aside. The Match was absolutely awesome!! Loved Masato's seriously pissed off face. Kengo's serious face and finally Kyousuke. Oh Kyousuke, TOOO DAMN BA!! "Called Game" was too damn AWESOME!!! I'm guessing next ep starts with a black screen and the vow to get stronger scene? |
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Draakisback said: Where was the Hopefully next episode. As for the emotional impact of this scene, I didn't really feel like it was that emotional the first time reading it in the VN. I thought it was still chilling in the anime. As for the Rin 2 ending, I never teared up or found it emotional. It was about as vague and confusing for me. "I lost her" was all it said. It was weird to see Riki back at school without Rin. What would've even happened to her? The police were obviously sent to go look for Riki and Rin, so they would've taken them back to the school. They were at Kyousuke's grandpa's house, not breaking into some complete stranger's home. The literal parts of Rin 2 made no sense to me. I think Cheap Tricks could've been better, and a lot better if they didn't show Miyuki, but whatever. My expectations for the series which once at an 8.8 are around an 8.4 now. I don't feel like discussing any more for now. This is going to be an extremely controversial episode, and it seems like a waste of time to talk about it further. |
Vladz0rNov 9, 2013 7:59 AM
| not understand "CHEAP TRICKS!" :s |
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| It seems JC Staff is saying to me that "LOL fuck that Rin's route. We'll cramp it into 5 minutes." I'll just go back to my WA2 VN. |
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Tennouji_ said: It seems JC Staff is saying to me that "LOL fuck that Rin's route. We'll cramp it into 5 minutes." I'll just go back to my WA2 VN. Pretty much. I just hopped back into playing Rewrite VN now after delaying myself for a few months. >Fuck you common route so long. |
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InabaHimeko said: not understand "CHEAP TRICKS!" :s Then JC Staff succeeded in keeping it confusing like in the VN. Yay. |
Vladz0r said: InabaHimeko said: not understand "CHEAP TRICKS!" :s Then JC Staff succeeded in keeping it confusing like in the VN. Yay. Should see CR comments, people already figured it out :D. |
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<font><font>Vladz0r</font></font> said: InabaHimeko said: not understand "CHEAP TRICKS!" :s Then JC Staff succeeded in keeping it confusing like in the VN. Yay. xDDDD really not understand I have not seen the visual novel |
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Tyrel said: Tennouji_ said: It seems JC Staff is saying to me that "LOL fuck that Rin's route. We'll cramp it into 5 minutes." I'll just go back to my WA2 VN. Pretty much. I just hopped back into playing Rewrite VN now after delaying myself for a few months. >Fuck you common route so long. Yea Haha, just finished Kotori's route after doing that common route (a long one indeed) Still got 4 more route's to complete :P Anyway, Episode 6... so much information crammed into 1 episode.. The "Cheap tricks!" part was excellent except for the fact they showed Miyuki... Hanabi!! Best song! just to sad they put all that running away/staying at the house business into the Ending. 5minutes of that isnt enough and didnt make me have feels/sad one bit, except for the end part where riki's hands leave Rin's... I really hope they don't rush refrain now, as they did in this episode. |
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| I think in order to make up for making Rin's route so short, and making me get less feels in the anime. They Must: |
| Okay this episode was absolute perfection! The new ost's were perfect, the new lia song was amazing, and cheap tricks was amazing! :) |
| lol holy fuck they covered SO much time of Rin2 during the credits screen alone, what the fuck was that x.x well I guess it kinda worked out, still kind of crazy how much they cramped into a single episode at least we'll have 7 eps for Refrain confirmed this way |
HaXXspettenNov 9, 2013 8:36 AM
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| I dunno. I think the new OST was really good, but at the same time, I think the fact that I've read the scene so many times with "Parting of the Boys" playing killed any emotional impact. I teared up imagining the scene in my head, and imagining JC Staff animating it and using that song, and I guess I was just completely thrown off when they didn't use it... Also, them leaving out the scenes at the end or Rin 2 is really frustrating. They're pivotal to Refrain, and they BETTER be in the next episode. So yeah, for people who didn't get the same impact as the VN, I think it was how they changed the OST. It's the same with episode 5, though I thought that new OST fit better for the Lennon scene. |
| "CHEAP TRICKS!!!" "Called game." That's all, boys. That's all. |
DeathDoUsPart said: I think in order to make up for making Rin's route so short, and making me get less feels in the anime. They Must: Please, no. I will refuse to edit that scene if they include it. :) They barely even have enough episodes to cover Refrain, but they do love cramming in and rushing crappy scenes, so you might just get that ;O |
| Well i knew that that this episode was going to be super rushed from how 1 episode are. Cheap trick was good I was surprise that they add Miyuki in this but it made sense the anime is pov from everyone view not just Riki pov. But Rin route was so short compared to visual novel it cover only grandpa house and bath scene then taking away prior to visual novel. |
IshkotenNov 9, 2013 8:44 AM
LightBladeNova said: It makes me sad to know that still hardly anyone knows what a visual novel is, even in the anime community. |
| Hmm good ep. All I have to say really. Though I think this will be open/no end like S1 saddly. |
chardsixteen said: So, what is the point of having the Anime - Visual Novel discussion thread when all the VN players just piss and whine all over these threads? Can you guys leave. Or just shut the f*ck up. As an anime-only viewer, this was executed perfectly well and fine. There's enough to have it make sense, yet enough withheld to maintain anticipation. Seriously... "we didn't get to see this, or that, or this other VN scene..." WHO CARES. IN THE CONTEXT OF THE ANIME, IT'S FINE. This. Although the policeman part was too sudden. |
- I've always... always been watching you... This whole time... Because you were there... That's why I was able to try hard. So you could have some balance! So you wouldn't treat me like a kid! So you would see me as an actual girl! Even while you were gone... You were right here! You were right here in my heart! |
Vladz0r said: DeathDoUsPart said: I think in order to make up for making Rin's route so short, and making me get less feels in the anime. They Must: Please, no. I will refuse to edit that scene if they include it. :) They barely even have enough episodes to cover Refrain, but they do love cramming in and rushing crappy scenes, so you might just get that ;O Haha, :P Rin hater~ xD schboomer will probably edit that part :P!!! Its only 8min long anyway xP |
| Crying T________T When Rin was suffering, I couldn't hold it. When Kengo punched Kyousuke, then their friendship ended in a blink of an eye. But OMG Riki x Rin moment and finally when the police came and he hugged Rin T_________T. Dat ending song!!!! TwT Kyousuke Why!!!!!!! Are you really the bad guy?? What happen to you??? Is Kyousuke not only developing Rin but also Riki??? |
| We'll always talk about anime vs. VN in these threads. We have natural expectations after waiting all this time to see this scene. I'm not surprised it's being critiqued this much. The OST change and scene changes are a mixed bag for me, but I'm more curious to see what others think. |
| iam really confused! why did Rikki run away with rin? |
| Absurd, what a load of forced drama! Why did they made Kyousuke an evil guy and that one eyed patched girl showing up to distract Kengo Running away like a forbidden couple was even more hilarious Is narcolepsy not convenient enough to occur now? |
GGNoodles said: iam really confused! why did Rikki run away with rin? AnimeFan500 said: So Rin doesn't have to suffer being at that new school. Also so she wouldn't be alone. Riki doesn't trust Kyousuke so he ran away with her. But that didn't last long. T__T |
| So is 8 E's enough? http://puu.sh/5diJO.jpg @1lau I should explain everything to 1lau so that you understand that it's not forced, but I dunno if you're worth the time. Just watch to the end and maybe you'll have a clue. Here are some tips: 1. Kyousuke isn't evil. 2. Yes, the eye patched girl did appear to distract Kengo, congrats. You still don't know why. It will get explained in Refrain. 3. Running away like a forbidden couple- yes, because they're going against Kyousuke's plan, and don't want anyone to know where they're going. 4. Riki has narcolepsy whenever he worries about losing others. He had it it in the cafeteria when he wished the days could go on forever. He had it in Mio's route when he realized that Mio wanted to disappear, etc. Anyway, sorry that you can't deduce shit about the shows you watch, and this isn't an opaque story like Clannad. You also have to realize that Riki and Rin are young kids, and their runaway makes sense given how young they are, and seeing how much tension they've built up over this situation. Anyway, can't wait till Refrain finishes airing so people can realize why all the story pieces fall well into place, since they just assume the characters are random and unjustified and can't figure out their motives. |
AversaNov 11, 2013 6:03 AM
| Heh, well, damn. While I didn't find the end of Rin's route all that emotional, I did at least like the scenes where they were together at that house. They were pretty cute and fun to watch. :3 But what bothers me the most is that the took out all the significance behind the escape by cutting it down. It was suppose to showcase Riki's reliability in tough situations. In the VN, he and Rin had to face many obstacles, and overcome the challenges of living alone and finding a way to survive. Refrain spoilers: You guys are awesome. :D I hate having to use CR's version for speed, but I can't help it! Will definitely use yours once I get into re-watching this. Well, starting next week, I'll definitely be raw streaming again. So there won't be any point to using CR and I will be using Refrain subs to watch the rest of this. |
-Kenshin-Nov 9, 2013 9:36 AM
| Favorite episode so far. Kengo yells at Kyousuke give me chills. |
| Jeesus, baseball scene was amazinggggg. No complaints with this episode. Kinda glad they skipped the end of Rin 2 because it's pretty irrelevant outside of shipping factor. Heh, well, damn. While I didn't find the end of Rin's route all that emotional, I did at least like the scenes where they were together at that house. They were pretty cute and fun to watch. :3 But what bothers me the most is that the took out all the significance behind the escape by cutting it down. It was suppose to showcase Riki's reliability in tough situations. In the VN, he and Rin had to face many obstacles, and overcome the challenges of living alone and finding a way to survive. No it's more to show us that Riki doesn't understand what it means to be an adult. It's to show us how rash decisions can lead to dire consequences (which is what it shows here). You can't just do what you "want" if you don't have the means to actually accomplish it (in this case, Riki had no job and no money). For example he let Rin collect as many cats as she wanted because he wasn't strict enough with her even though they didn't really have the means to feed her. It basically showed us he wasn't actually capable of taking care of her at that point. |
hyperknees91Nov 9, 2013 9:39 AM
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